"I tried to polite but now I just dont give a damn. Because let's be honest, we don't live in polite America. We live in grab em by the pussy America now. So thank you for that."
$25M tax write off. Of course, the real cost to Mr. Trump is after tax, not before it. And most business settlements are fully tax deductible. The only part that arguably may not be here is the $1 million in penalties. But barring express non-deductibility commitments, many penalties can be deducted, too. In general, fines and penalties paid to the government are not deductible. Section 162(f) of the tax code prohibits deducting ‘‘any fine or similar penalty paid to a government for the violation of any law.’’
It just occurred to me that the next State of the Union Address will be from President-elect Trump.
keep laughing Canada. Your time will come.
Many of us up here aren't laughing for precisely that reason. We are not impervious to fear, influence from inner demons like racism, or unsubstantiated promises of a politician to carry out our desires.
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is everyone on this thread from Canada?!?!?!. Am I debating the validity of this president with a bunch of Canadians? Not surprising considering the complete indifference of Americans.
is everyone on this thread from Canada?!?!?!. Am I debating the validity of this president with a bunch of Canadians? Not surprising considering the complete indifference of Americans.
Eh... Hosehead, once you get there you can have all the free beer and sausages you want.
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up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,871
right. what befuddles me is how just over half the eligible voting populace did so. out of an estimated 232 to 241 million people. 61 million decided for the rest of us that this apparently ethically challenged, thin skinned, entitled egomaniac is the leader of the free world?
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
right. what befuddles me is how just over half the eligible voting populace did so. out of an estimated 232 to 241 million people. 61 million decided for the rest of us that this appatent ethically challenged, thin skinned, entitled egomaniac is the leader of the free world?
Do you think many never bothered voting because they assumed Rump had no chance and they didn't need to?
Or do you think the results reflect nation wide opinion?
right. what befuddles me is how just over half the eligible voting populace did so. out of an estimated 232 to 241 million people. 61 million decided for the rest of us that this appatent ethically challenged, thin skinned, entitled egomaniac is the leader of the free world?
Do you think many never bothered voting because they assumed Rump had no chance and they didn't need to?
Or do you think the results reflect nation wide opinion?
I think many didn't vote on BOTH sides because they assumed Hillary was going to win in a landslide. had the media projections of Clinton's victory would have been a lot closer, we could have seen a much different result. then again, we may not have. it's really impossible to say. especially with how usless polls have shown to be.
right. what befuddles me is how just over half the eligible voting populace did so. out of an estimated 232 to 241 million people. 61 million decided for the rest of us that this appatent ethically challenged, thin skinned, entitled egomaniac is the leader of the free world?
Do you think many never bothered voting because they assumed Rump had no chance and they didn't need to?
Or do you think the results reflect nation wide opinion?
I think many didn't vote on BOTH sides because they assumed Hillary was going to win in a landslide. had the media projections of Clinton's victory would have been a lot closer, we could have seen a much different result. then again, we may not have. it's really impossible to say. especially with how usless polls have shown to be.
^^^probably so
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up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,871
right. what befuddles me is how just over half the eligible voting populace did so. out of an estimated 232 to 241 million people. 61 million decided for the rest of us that this appatent ethically challenged, thin skinned, entitled egomaniac is the leader of the free world?
Do you think many never bothered voting because they assumed Rump had no chance and they didn't need to?
Or do you think the results reflect nation wide opinion?
wasnt just this election. slightly lower turnout than 2012 and well below 2008. 40-45% nonparticipation in presidential years and 60% or better nonparticipation years during midterms and much less for local (at least near me).
so please , tell me again how not voting serves us? Seems to me not voting in large part brought us to this point now.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Interesting article about the concept of fake news that, surprise surprise, includes many of the fake news stories discussed on AMT over the past few weeks.
right. what befuddles me is how just over half the eligible voting populace did so. out of an estimated 232 to 241 million people. 61 million decided for the rest of us that this appatent ethically challenged, thin skinned, entitled egomaniac is the leader of the free world?
Do you think many never bothered voting because they assumed Rump had no chance and they didn't need to?
Or do you think the results reflect nation wide opinion?
wasnt just this election. slightly lower turnout than 2012 and well below 2008. 40-45% nonparticipation in presidential years and 60% or better nonparticipation years during midterms and much less for local (at least near me).
so please , tell me again how not voting serves us? Seems to me not voting in large part brought us to this point now.
I ask because I'm wondering if people might reassess their levels of apathy given the reality of what has happened.
In the event the non-voting base was in the same proportion as those who voted... my question would be moot.
In the past, I haven't been a big fan of the current systems and looked at my vote as somewhat meaningless; however, I did vote in our last federal election (we had a donkey we needed to rid ourselves of)... and your election result speaks to the value of a vote.
If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.
If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.
We need to get rid of this myth that Donald is some kind of brilliant puppet master.
Most media enjoyed record ratings, they got what they wanted.
The only group that bought the con was a Donald voter.
If you think that he had any brilliant plan then you were conned too, he isn't that smart.
If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.
We need to get rid of this myth that Donald is some kind of brilliant puppet master.
Most media enjoyed record ratings, they got what they wanted.
The only group that bought the con was a Donald voter.
If you think that he had any brilliant plan then you were conned too, he isn't that smart.
correct. smart people don't conduct themselves on social media like he does.
If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.
We need to get rid of this myth that Donald is some kind of brilliant puppet master.
Most media enjoyed record ratings, they got what they wanted.
The only group that bought the con was a Donald voter.
If you think that he had any brilliant plan then you were conned too, he isn't that smart.
If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.
the media didn't elect Donald Trump. He played the people who voted for him like a fiddle. he sold them a myth and they bought it lock stock and barrel.
If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.
We need to get rid of this myth that Donald is some kind of brilliant puppet master.
Most media enjoyed record ratings, they got what they wanted.
The only group that bought the con was a Donald voter.
If you think that he had any brilliant plan then you were conned too, he isn't that smart.
correct. smart people don't conduct themselves on social media like he does.
Guy just beat Jeb Bush easily and Hillary Clinton without a ground campaign and a stripped down campaign team. I don't think he is an idiot. I don't like him as a person or president but not going to say he isn't smart.
If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.
We need to get rid of this myth that Donald is some kind of brilliant puppet master.
Most media enjoyed record ratings, they got what they wanted.
The only group that bought the con was a Donald voter.
If you think that he had any brilliant plan then you were conned too, he isn't that smart.
correct. smart people don't conduct themselves on social media like he does.
Guy just beat Jeb Bush easily and Hillary Clinton without a ground campaign and a stripped down campaign team. I don't think he is an idiot. I don't like him as a person or president but not going to say he isn't smart.
If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.
We need to get rid of this myth that Donald is some kind of brilliant puppet master.
Most media enjoyed record ratings, they got what they wanted.
The only group that bought the con was a Donald voter.
If you think that he had any brilliant plan then you were conned too, he isn't that smart.
correct. smart people don't conduct themselves on social media like he does.
Guy just beat Jeb Bush easily and Hillary Clinton without a ground campaign and a stripped down campaign team. I don't think he is an idiot. I don't like him as a person or president but not going to say he isn't smart.
That's on the Donald voter. Just because he won doesn't mean he's smart, for proof look to the American public electing Bush Jr, twice.
If you look at the Podesta emails it's clear Bill Hilliary Hilliarys circle and major media knew it would be a close race back in May and July. Not hard to believe that there was a concerted effort to give the illusion that Trump had no chance in hopes that his support would not turn out. It was a nice plan but Trump overcame it, he played the media like a fiddle.
We need to get rid of this myth that Donald is some kind of brilliant puppet master.
Most media enjoyed record ratings, they got what they wanted.
The only group that bought the con was a Donald voter.
If you think that he had any brilliant plan then you were conned too, he isn't that smart.
correct. smart people don't conduct themselves on social media like he does.
Guy just beat Jeb Bush easily and Hillary Clinton without a ground campaign and a stripped down campaign team. I don't think he is an idiot. I don't like him as a person or president but not going to say he isn't smart.
That's on the Donald voter. Just because he won doesn't mean he's smart, for proof look to the American public electing Bush Jr, twice.
Trump and W, no comparison, if McCain elected then I could buy your argument.
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"I tried to polite but now I just dont give a damn. Because let's be honest, we don't live in polite America. We live in grab em by the pussy America now. So thank you for that."
i almost fell on the floor after she said that.
Of course, the real cost to Mr. Trump is after tax, not before it. And most business settlements are fully tax deductible. The only part that arguably may not be here is the $1 million in penalties. But barring express non-deductibility commitments, many penalties can be deducted, too. In general, fines and penalties paid to the government are not deductible. Section 162(f) of the tax code prohibits deducting ‘‘any fine or similar penalty paid to a government for the violation of any law.’’
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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A historical first....
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Or do you think the results reflect nation wide opinion?
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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so please , tell me again how not voting serves us? Seems to me not voting in large part brought us to this point now.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/the-problem-with-fake-news-is-not-supply-its-demand/article32924694/
In the event the non-voting base was in the same proportion as those who voted... my question would be moot.
In the past, I haven't been a big fan of the current systems and looked at my vote as somewhat meaningless; however, I did vote in our last federal election (we had a donkey we needed to rid ourselves of)... and your election result speaks to the value of a vote.
Most media enjoyed record ratings, they got what they wanted.
The only group that bought the con was a Donald voter.
If you think that he had any brilliant plan then you were conned too, he isn't that smart.
www.headstonesband.com
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/09/trump-spent-about-half-of-what-clinton-did-on-his-way-to-the-presidency.html