^^^all fueled by the kumbaya tone of the media after every election. The Entitled Sexual Predator and his disciples never remember when the media helps them
ummm what kumbaya tone? its been all negative since he became president elect
From where I stand, they've normalized a lot of this. I realize they have to be professional, but this crap like having Bannon in the white house is completely bonkers.
Now is the time for both the Democrats and Republicans (in Congress, not the voters) to come together and figure out a way to eliminate this severely damaged human from office.
It's going to be interesting.
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Trump dodging the press was him making a statement. Unfortunately it reflects what he thinks about an important check and balance in the system and that he doesn't want those checks and balances. The president lets the press know where they are at all times. This is essential to being in a democracy. Please no one buy into his ongoing attempts to demonize the press. It's step one for an authoritarian. The CNN people last night were visibly irritated with this when they reported on it.
Yes! The press must be allowed to watch the president-elect eat dinner!
Yuk it up all you want. He needs to be available to the pool of press that follow him around all the time, not lie to them and dodge them. We need to know what's happening, and he also needs to have some level of accountability. Do you get that he works for us now? Stop minimizing these things. This action, combined with his past statements about the media and the press is another red flag.
He doesn't "need" to do anything. Obama and Hillary barely made themselves available to the press and nobody seemed to care. Trump was the most available candidate from the minute he started running and while it would be nice for him to continue that availability he actually doesn't owe anybody anything. This election is over and the voter can decide in 2020 whether his availability or lack thereof is or is not acceptable. For people to huff and puff though about not having access to a man who wanted to have dinner with his family is the peak of sillyness. The media has an actual President to still follow around...there will be plenty of time to follow the next one.
Obama ran on transparency, but hasn't really fulfilled the promise. Hell, in 2013 he banned all media/press photographers at his events, so all of the images (video and still) are from the official Whitehouse photographer. We only get to see what they want us to see through the official lens.
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Has anyone else noticed that since his win in general the news headlines, coverage and articles about President-elect Trump have been very coarse? It seems like the press does not want to write about him at all but are bound to. The press is not giving a very celebratory feeling of the next POTUS. I truly believe this is 100% opposite coverage from Obamas win and if Hillary would've won.
Yes, it all makes perfect sense... Everyone is aware of how totally fucked up this is, including journalists. Anyone who expects Trump to get the same treatment as past presidents is living in a fantasy world.
Is there not a scripted chain of events that happen when a POTUS is elected? (Americans help out here) Like parades or news interviews or just plain celebrations all covered by the press like past presidents. It perhaps indicates that President-elect Trump was right about some media. They can be led.
Parades and celebrations?? No. Not until inauguration day. When did you ever see that done in the past when a US election was over? News interviews yes, and those are happening, although now it appears that Trump is literally running from the media. He is apparently getting all tricksie in order to avoid being caught on camera, lol. So he's acting like a celebrity instead of like a president elect, which also makes sense, since I think he can only conceive of any of this in that kind of celebrity context. The weight of his responsibilities are not at all sinking in. It's pathetic.
Another hallmark of ENTITLEMENT.
Are you intentionally baiting PJ_Soul? That poster actually believes what they just said. You can't possibly believe that.
I actually assumed he was talking about Trump having that sense of entitlement. What's happening here? How would that comment be baiting me?
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^^^all fueled by the kumbaya tone of the media after every election. The Entitled Sexual Predator and his disciples never remember when the media helps them
ummm what kumbaya tone? its been all negative since he became president elect
From where I stand, they've normalized a lot of this. I realize they have to be professional, but this crap like having Bannon in the white house is completely bonkers.
yes, you got people like Dave Chapelle and Oprah even who are afraid to call this guy what he is.
^^^all fueled by the kumbaya tone of the media after every election. The Entitled Sexual Predator and his disciples never remember when the media helps them
ummm what kumbaya tone? its been all negative since he became president elect
From where I stand, they've normalized a lot of this. I realize they have to be professional, but this crap like having Bannon in the white house is completely bonkers.
yes, you got people like Dave Chapelle and Oprah even who are afraid to call this guy what he is.
Yeah, it's disgusting. Especially Oprah. Honestly, she seems to quite like Trump. I think she just loves rich, famous people.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
^^^all fueled by the kumbaya tone of the media after every election. The Entitled Sexual Predator and his disciples never remember when the media helps them
ummm what kumbaya tone? its been all negative since he became president elect
From where I stand, they've normalized a lot of this. I realize they have to be professional, but this crap like having Bannon in the white house is completely bonkers.
yes, you got people like Dave Chapelle and Oprah even who are afraid to call this guy what he is.
Yeah, it's disgusting. Especially Oprah. Honestly, she seems to quite like Trump. I think she just loves rich, famous people.
Oprah 2020: "I pledge to leave a brand new car under each and every person's chair!"
8 years ago I was one of those that wanted to see this happen. while i still think, it would be nice. its really not the way to go at this point. iphones are mostly assembled by hand (last i heard). american's really don't do that type of work anymore. our economy has shifted towards one where the American laborer now is more like an operator/maintainer of a sophisticated machine that makes stuff. and that's where we will continue to grow the manufacturing sector.
you bring those industries back to north america and:
-either they'd be so incredibly expensive as labour costs would soar, so no one would buy them, or -you'd have to get rid of the minimum wage, effectively making slave labour legal in the US again.
What's interesting in Trumpworld is that you can create an unrealistic fantasy, and people will believe in it.
Not sure if you read the guys opinion piece but without even reading it, what effect on new jobs would a $250B America's infrastructure program have?
I read it. I'm all for infrastructure spending. Too bad his fellow republicans aren't, and where will the budget be cut to fit this in? Oh wait, deficit spending is now a good thing. Forgot.
you bring those industries back to north america and:
-either they'd be so incredibly expensive as labour costs would soar, so no one would buy them, or -you'd have to get rid of the minimum wage, effectively making slave labour legal in the US again.
this is something you simply cannot reverse.
Is it the phones hardware or firmware that's expensive? I do too think it's irreversible at this point, but the promise of slave labor and more corporate welfare could be enticing. Besides maybe hot dogs and pizza, what more do corporatists love than cheap labor and handouts?
8 years ago I was one of those that wanted to see this happen. while i still think, it would be nice. its really not the way to go at this point. iphones are mostly assembled by hand (last i heard). american's really don't do that type of work anymore. our economy has shifted towards one where the American laborer now is more like an operator/maintainer of a sophisticated machine that makes stuff. and that's where we will continue to grow the manufacturing sector.
Yes, well there is pretty much a huge army of Chinese workers who make these phones, and they aren't well-paid and their hours are long. The factories in which they work, that have as many as 50,000+ workers in just one facility, are notoriously secretive, probably to hide workers' rights abuses. There is no way all that is moving back to America, where people get shorter hours and better pay (rightly so). Not a chance in hell. I don't think the American workforce would even be able to handle the workload even if consumers were interested in yet more expensive iPhones and even if Apple were interested in lower profits, which, of course, they are not. Trump is such an idiot, talking about bring jobs like that back to America... I mean an idiot because it's stupid to tell such a huge lie on international television over and over and over again. I don't think for a second he believed his own lies obviously. He loves shipping jobs overseas - he's proven that. He doesn't care about anything besides making money and getting attention.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
you bring those industries back to north america and:
-either they'd be so incredibly expensive as labour costs would soar, so no one would buy them, or -you'd have to get rid of the minimum wage, effectively making slave labour legal in the US again.
this is something you simply cannot reverse.
Is it the phones hardware or firmware that's expensive? I do too think it's irreversible at this point, but the promise of slave labor and more corporate welfare could be enticing. Besides maybe hot dogs and pizza, what more do corporatists love than cheap labor and handouts?
I don't think either is. software needs to be developed and then tested, but once that's done, it's all just replication. and nowadays most of these things don't have remarkably new technologies, but just offshoots of what they've already accomplished. "what, the new iPhone has a 53 megapixel camera??? my old one has only 51!!!! sure I'll drop $700 for something I bought basically the same thing 6 months ago".
But I think the markup on these products is so incredibly insane, no company is going to take an 85% (just throwing out a number) hit on their profits if they have to start paying fair wages.
8 years ago I was one of those that wanted to see this happen. while i still think, it would be nice. its really not the way to go at this point. iphones are mostly assembled by hand (last i heard). american's really don't do that type of work anymore. our economy has shifted towards one where the American laborer now is more like an operator/maintainer of a sophisticated machine that makes stuff. and that's where we will continue to grow the manufacturing sector.
Yes, well there is pretty much a huge army of Chinese workers who make these phones, and they aren't well-paid and their hours are long. The factories in which they work, that have as many as 50,000+ workers in just one facility, are notoriously secretive, probably to hide workers' rights abuses. There is no way all that is moving back to America, where people get shorter hours and better pay (rightly so). Not a chance in hell. I don't think the American workforce would even be able to handle the workload even if consumers were interested in yet more expensive iPhones and even if Apple were interested in lower profits, which, of course, they are not. Trump is such an idiot, talking about bring jobs like that back to America... I mean an idiot because it's stupid to tell such a huge lie on international television over and over and over again. I don't think for a second he believed his own lies obviously. He loves shipping jobs overseas - he's proven that. He doesn't care about anything besides making money and getting attention.
Agree with most except that offering/proposing a plan to keep jobs here and bring some back isn't a huge lie. Huge lies are like why we're at never ending wars for 13 years and counting.
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^^^all fueled by the kumbaya tone of the media after every election. The Entitled Sexual Predator and his disciples never remember when the media helps them
ummm what kumbaya tone? its been all negative since he became president elect
From where I stand, they've normalized a lot of this. I realize they have to be professional, but this crap like having Bannon in the white house is completely bonkers.
yes, you got people like Dave Chapelle and Oprah even who are afraid to call this guy what he is.
Yeah, it's disgusting. Especially Oprah. Honestly, she seems to quite like Trump. I think she just loves rich, famous people.
8 years ago I was one of those that wanted to see this happen. while i still think, it would be nice. its really not the way to go at this point. iphones are mostly assembled by hand (last i heard). american's really don't do that type of work anymore. our economy has shifted towards one where the American laborer now is more like an operator/maintainer of a sophisticated machine that makes stuff. and that's where we will continue to grow the manufacturing sector.
Yes, well there is pretty much a huge army of Chinese workers who make these phones, and they aren't well-paid and their hours are long. The factories in which they work, that have as many as 50,000+ workers in just one facility, are notoriously secretive, probably to hide workers' rights abuses. There is no way all that is moving back to America, where people get shorter hours and better pay (rightly so). Not a chance in hell. I don't think the American workforce would even be able to handle the workload even if consumers were interested in yet more expensive iPhones and even if Apple were interested in lower profits, which, of course, they are not. Trump is such an idiot, talking about bring jobs like that back to America... I mean an idiot because it's stupid to tell such a huge lie on international television over and over and over again. I don't think for a second he believed his own lies obviously. He loves shipping jobs overseas - he's proven that. He doesn't care about anything besides making money and getting attention.
Agree with most except that offering/proposing a plan to keep jobs here and bring some back isn't a huge lie. Huge lies are like why we're at never ending wars for 13 years and counting.
I guess the size of a lie is subjective, lol. I personally think that ranting about how awful it is to have shipped jobs overseas and claim that he's going to somehow fix that, while he himself participates in having these jobs shipped overseas and knows perfectly well that they aren't coming back is a fairly big lie. As big as the WMD lie? Well, yeah, it's just that the consequences of one lie was much worse. But there's no need to qualify these things, is there?? The fucker can barely keep himself from lying/making shit up out of thin air. It's kind of a problem that demands repeated mention.
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-either they'd be so incredibly expensive as labour costs would soar, so no one would buy them, or
-you'd have to get rid of the minimum wage, effectively making slave labour legal in the US again.
this is something you simply cannot reverse.
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I do too think it's irreversible at this point, but the promise of slave labor and more corporate welfare could be enticing.
Besides maybe hot dogs and pizza, what more do corporatists love than cheap labor and handouts?
Trump is such an idiot, talking about bring jobs like that back to America... I mean an idiot because it's stupid to tell such a huge lie on international television over and over and over again. I don't think for a second he believed his own lies obviously. He loves shipping jobs overseas - he's proven that. He doesn't care about anything besides making money and getting attention.
But I think the markup on these products is so incredibly insane, no company is going to take an 85% (just throwing out a number) hit on their profits if they have to start paying fair wages.
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Huge lies are like why we're at never ending wars for 13 years and counting.
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