Trump

ledvedderman · October 2016

Donald Trump will not be able to accomplish any change. None. It's one thing to have one caucus against you in both chambers of Congress, but Trump will have many of his own party unwilling to work with him.

dignin · October 2016

BS44325 said:

Go Beavers said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:
For all the outraged PJ fans lets dial it a back a few years to this kick ass collaboration

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nE6X6HGyIfE

Wasn't this everybody's favourite christmas single?

Not a misogynistic word in the whole damn song! I mean check out the lyrics below:

"Ninety nine problems but a bitch ain't one
If you having girl problems I feel bad for you son
I got ninety nine problems but a bitch ain't one, hit me
Now once upon a time not too long ago
A nigga like myself had to strong arm a ho
This is not a ho in the sense of having a pussy
But a pussy having no goddamn sense try and push me"

Oh wait...was that the "pussy" word? Shit. My bad. Still a great tune though. I mean when it's art dem words are cool.
Good call. I renounce my support for Jayz's campaign for president.
Haven't you been reading these posts? It's about more then the presidency now. It's about misogyny, language and in general how we want society to treat women. You can't pick and choose when to excuse this anymore.
Have you been paying attention to the candidates? Trump has no policy or history of public service, so we're going off his personality and garbage that comes out his mouth.
Believe me I know. The people who support him factored all this in many months ago. He is a big mouth who has committed adultery and has been married many times. The professional politicians are "shocked" by these statements because they have to be but his supporters are not. Only an idiot would have believed that something like this video would not come out. This is and will always be Trump. His supporters however look at the alternative and say "she's a terrible candidate and on women's issues she and her husband are no better as they have a history of abuse and victim shaming between them". With all that considered his supporters say which despicable human will I choose? The despicable person who will practice politics as usual or the dispicable person who might actual make real changes? What comes out of his mouth does not change the calculus.

False equivalency. Their faults aren't even in the same solar system.

ledvedderman · October 2016

InHiding80 said:
Unsung,ledvedder and Paul just prove my point.

Why ask for Trumps Wall when you built one for yourselves to block facts coming from me and others?

Did I just get lumped in with unsung? And did I just get get called a Republican?

BS44325 · October 2016

ledvedderman said:
Donald Trump will not be able to accomplish any change. None. It's one thing to have one caucus against you in both chambers of Congress, but Trump will have many of his own party unwilling to work with him.

That depends on what kind of agenda he is actually looking to put in place. If he pushes a conservative agenda then a republican congress will work with him.

mrussel1 · October 2016

BS44325 said:

ledvedderman said:
Donald Trump will not be able to accomplish any change. None. It's one thing to have one caucus against you in both chambers of Congress, but Trump will have many of his own party unwilling to work with him.
That depends on what kind of agenda he is actually looking to put in place. If he pushes a conservative agenda then a republican congress will work with him.

You were right in your above post. His supporters factored these things in. However that constituency will not get him to victory. The people necessary to do that were alienated yet again from him yesterday. It's his curse. He has enough support to stay but not enough to win.

mrussel1 · October 2016

ledvedderman said:

InHiding80 said:
Unsung,ledvedder and Paul just prove my point.

Why ask for Trumps Wall when you built one for yourselves to block facts coming from me and others?
Did I just get lumped in with unsung? And did I just get get called a Republican?

Yeah I never got that sense from you.

In hiding, I think you are off on this one. And who is Paul?

ledvedderman · October 2016

You could be right. What I'm looking at, sadly, is 2020. I think that even if Trump pulls off a miracle and wins, he will face a primary in 2020. Cruz, Kasich, Ryan are all very solid candidates for four years from now and each represents a piece of the pie that is today's modern GOP.

Go Beavers · October 2016

mrussel1 said:

ledvedderman said:

InHiding80 said:
Unsung,ledvedder and Paul just prove my point.

Why ask for Trumps Wall when you built one for yourselves to block facts coming from me and others?
Did I just get lumped in with unsung? And did I just get get called a Republican?
Yeah I never got that sense from you.

In hiding, I think you are off on this one. And who is Paul?

The walrus.

ledvedderman · October 2016

Ha! Close, but we all know that Paul is dead.

CROJAM95 · October 2016

no need to worry everyone, this whole election 2016 is a sham. Polls are good for wiping your ass with. Didn't Fox have Obama losing both elections days before? Him quitting? Yea ok, citizens United and all this money being collected will go on thru Nov 8th. It's the biggest scam in human history, thousands get mega rich every 4 years.

The Republicans will regret this very badly, not working for a sustainable future just going off the narrative of the fringe of their party. Obama wasn't born here, he,s Muslim etc etc. you can't win on any issues so you take this as your big issue? The guy isn't a perfect president, far from it but don't tell me that 45% of people hating him means anything....you dumbasses, every president has that much of an unfavorable rating. The Party of NO really did some real Un-American things while he was in office, shutting down the government. No tax hikes no matter what? Really....Never? And when do you ever remember anyone being a major party candidate who never served in any capacity until now? And this is what you come up with? History will laugh at you for all time. I saw some CNN reporter interview a bunch of Drumpf folks recently at an event. I couldn't believe my ears.....these Racist Fucks were saying Drumpf never supported the Iraq war, and they were so proud. 1st it's not true, 2nd these mentally inept people sure as hell did support that crock of shit war (Believe me in my Drumpf voice) and also believed Saddam knocked the towers down....and now all these righties somehow have pivoted away....oh how lovely. Just like they never ask him about his religious beliefs.....these people want to see this country up in flames rather than have a woman follow a black guy. So this cycle has been complete soul selling.

Yea he has all these supporters, But the big shots "Neo Cons" of the year 2000 who put a man in office who lost the popular vote but had a 4-3 Supreme Court conservative advantage.....they fucking hate this shit talking terrible businessman. Real New Yorkers know that him as businessman sux...ask Atlantic City, his contractors, his investors etc. Donald never takes a loss, he stiffs others.

Im very much looking forward to Nov 9th. People need to demand $$ outta politics. I realize it's unlikely but it's killing the potential we could reach.

BS44325 · October 2016

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

ledvedderman said:
Donald Trump will not be able to accomplish any change. None. It's one thing to have one caucus against you in both chambers of Congress, but Trump will have many of his own party unwilling to work with him.
That depends on what kind of agenda he is actually looking to put in place. If he pushes a conservative agenda then a republican congress will work with him.
You were right in your above post. His supporters factored these things in. However that constituency will not get him to victory. The people necessary to do that were alienated yet again from him yesterday. It's his curse. He has enough support to stay but not enough to win.

I think you're right and I think he was done after the debate. That was his chance to maybe persuade the middle but his performance was not good. These comments don't change much but it will keep that middle from ever giving him a second chance. My only remaining curiosity is just the general level of turnout. I still don't believe that Hillary is exciting anyone so will she win with what could be the lowest turnout in recent history? It won't matter because a win is a win and even though the turnout might be low the electoral college margin could still be large. I guess I am just wondering where that middle will go? Will they simply stay home?

BS44325 · October 2016

Anybody know what Obama is reading here?

https://youtu.be/WKYmiWiNqOw

mrussel1 · October 2016

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

ledvedderman said:
Donald Trump will not be able to accomplish any change. None. It's one thing to have one caucus against you in both chambers of Congress, but Trump will have many of his own party unwilling to work with him.
That depends on what kind of agenda he is actually looking to put in place. If he pushes a conservative agenda then a republican congress will work with him.
You were right in your above post. His supporters factored these things in. However that constituency will not get him to victory. The people necessary to do that were alienated yet again from him yesterday. It's his curse. He has enough support to stay but not enough to win.
I think you're right and I think he was done after the debate. That was his chance to maybe persuade the middle but his performance was not good. These comments don't change much but it will keep that middle from ever giving him a second chance. My only remaining curiosity is just the general level of turnout. I still don't believe that Hillary is exciting anyone so will she win with what could be the lowest turnout in recent history? It won't matter because a win is a win and even though the turnout might be low the electoral college margin could still be large. I guess I am just wondering where that middle will go? Will they simply stay home?

The GOP is now worried about the mainline republicans staying home and crushing them down ballot. That's the risk. You will see the RNC pulling money back from Trump and redirect it. If tomorrow is a real shit show, everyone is bailing.

ledvedderman · October 2016

I think RNC money is all but pulled from Trump and being diverted to Senate races. It's time to concede the Presidency and hope you can hold the Senate.
Ryan, McConnell and the party chair were all very damning in their Trump condemnations.

Wobbie · October 2016

Repubs need to take their party back from the teabaggers if they ever want to win another presidential election (see: Palin, S and Trump, D)

mrussel1 · October 2016

Wobbie said:
Repubs need to take their party back from the teabaggers if they ever want to win another presidential election (see: Palin, S and Trump, D)

Very true. McCain normalized "stupid" with his selection. It was a terrible mistake by a serious politician.

ledvedderman · October 2016

Do you think that's a possibility? They seem in too deep with that portion of their party. Ted Cruz isn't going away any time soon.

mrussel1 · October 2016

BS44325 said:
Anybody know what Obama is reading here?

https://youtu.be/WKYmiWiNqOw

Lady Chatterly's Lover?

50 shades?

Clockwork Orange?

PJfanwillneverleave1 · October 2016

ledvedderman said:

InHiding80 said:
Unsung,ledvedder and Paul just prove my point.

Why ask for Trumps Wall when you built one for yourselves to block facts coming from me and others?
Did I just get lumped in with unsung? And did I just get get called a Republican?

No you are just being attacked by liberal hate.
It is vicious and unforgiving.
They are upset that Trump is still around and has very, very good possibility of being POTUS.

ledvedderman · October 2016

"very, very good possibility" of Trump winning? Sorry man, but there's a very, very SLIM chance of that. If he does what we all think he will do tomorrow night, he is done.

Trump

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