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  • pjalive21 said:

    I like how the "uneducated" references keep coming in this forum and someone said something that is so true on facebook

    "next time you go get your car fixed, you need a plumber, your house built, or some other white collar job that many dont have an education to do then i recommend you find somebody else to do that work for you or you do it yourself"

    when i read that i wanted to stand and applause because a college degree doesn't make you better than a trade guy who probably can do more than i can and im college educated

    Talk about a misinterpretation. If a plumber, mechanic, etc. decide that that's all they are gonna focus their thoughts on and not try to pursue any other knowledge, then yeah they are deciding to be uneducated, and unfortunately that's a lot of Americans.
    How is that polled for then? This is hilarious. Do you even read what you are saying? Do you think you are that much better than everyone else because you are so enlightened and vote a certain way? The smartest people in the world created a bomb and dropped it on two cities in Japan. Get off your high horse.


    I never referenced myself at all. I'm merely saying that just because someone learns a trade doesn't mean they are educated. It means they learned a specific trade, but by all means go fly off the handle.
    And people are baffled where all the votes for President-elect Trump came from......
    There are people that can tell you the square root of a pickle jar but can't open it.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,946
    pjalive21 said:

    I like how the "uneducated" references keep coming in this forum and someone said something that is so true on facebook

    "next time you go get your car fixed, you need a plumber, your house built, or some other white collar job that many dont have an education to do then i recommend you find somebody else to do that work for you or you do it yourself"

    when i read that i wanted to stand and applause because a college degree doesn't make you better than a trade guy who probably can do more than i can and im college educated

    A college degree lends itself to having a greater ability to think critically. Now there are people who think critically who didn't go to college, and there's ones who did that can't think. I know several college grads who voted for trump that override that ability to think with a combination of fear and adherence to outdated/invalid beliefs.

    Pointing out the fact that lower educated whites voted for trump in greater numbers is just that, a fact. Facts should never be labelled elitist. That's just another way to manipulate people.
  • pjalive21 said:

    I like how the "uneducated" references keep coming in this forum and someone said something that is so true on facebook

    "next time you go get your car fixed, you need a plumber, your house built, or some other white collar job that many dont have an education to do then i recommend you find somebody else to do that work for you or you do it yourself"

    when i read that i wanted to stand and applause because a college degree doesn't make you better than a trade guy who probably can do more than i can and im college educated

    Talk about a misinterpretation. If a plumber, mechanic, etc. decide that that's all they are gonna focus their thoughts on and not try to pursue any other knowledge, then yeah they are deciding to be uneducated, and unfortunately that's a lot of Americans.
    How is that polled for then? This is hilarious. Do you even read what you are saying? Do you think you are that much better than everyone else because you are so enlightened and vote a certain way? The smartest people in the world created a bomb and dropped it on two cities in Japan. Get off your high horse.


    I never referenced myself at all. I'm merely saying that just because someone learns a trade doesn't mean they are educated. It means they learned a specific trade, but by all means go fly off the handle.
    And people are baffled where all the votes for President-elect Trump came from......
    There are people that can tell you the square root of a pickle jar but can't open it.
    I have no idea what this means. Intelligent people don't possess physical strength?
    looking to hear of the earth
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,946

    pjalive21 said:

    I like how the "uneducated" references keep coming in this forum and someone said something that is so true on facebook

    "next time you go get your car fixed, you need a plumber, your house built, or some other white collar job that many dont have an education to do then i recommend you find somebody else to do that work for you or you do it yourself"

    when i read that i wanted to stand and applause because a college degree doesn't make you better than a trade guy who probably can do more than i can and im college educated

    Talk about a misinterpretation. If a plumber, mechanic, etc. decide that that's all they are gonna focus their thoughts on and not try to pursue any other knowledge, then yeah they are deciding to be uneducated, and unfortunately that's a lot of Americans.
    How is that polled for then? This is hilarious. Do you even read what you are saying? Do you think you are that much better than everyone else because you are so enlightened and vote a certain way? The smartest people in the world created a bomb and dropped it on two cities in Japan. Get off your high horse.


    I never referenced myself at all. I'm merely saying that just because someone learns a trade doesn't mean they are educated. It means they learned a specific trade, but by all means go fly off the handle.
    And people are baffled where all the votes for President-elect Trump came from......
    There are people that can tell you the square root of a pickle jar but can't open it.
    No one's baffled. We know where the votes came from.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,946

    I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

    He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)
  • I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

    He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)
    He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.
    If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,946

    I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

    He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)
    He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.
    If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
    I figured you'd miss out on the question.
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,834
    edited November 2016

    I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

    He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)
    We will have to see what he proposes then won't we? His full plan. Be patient. Libs voted for Obamacare without even reading the law so let's give Trump a chance to put his plan out there. My guess is Congress will actually have the chance to read the bill this time before voting.
    Post edited by bootlegger10 on
  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    Obama owned Trump yesterday. The Democrats need to take very careful note of this. The guy is easy to sway. You just need to be his friend. That's all he wants. Friends.

  • I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

    He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)
    He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.
    If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
    I figured you'd miss out on the question.
    What's w/ the slight?

    To your question,
    The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,946

    I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

    He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)
    He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.
    If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
    I figured you'd miss out on the question.
    What's w/ the slight?

    To your question,
    The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
    They'll enroll in a plan after they get sick. I think this was the "free stuff" I kept hearing about in the primaries.
  • I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

    He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)
    He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.
    If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
    I figured you'd miss out on the question.
    What's w/ the slight?

    To your question,
    The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
    They'll enroll in a plan after they get sick. I think this was the "free stuff" I kept hearing about in the primaries.
    Imagine, people asking others for help when they are sick and not being turned away.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

    He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)
    He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.
    If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
    I figured you'd miss out on the question.
    What's w/ the slight?

    To your question,
    The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
    They'll enroll in a plan after they get sick. I think this was the "free stuff" I kept hearing about in the primaries.
    Imagine, people asking others for help when they are sick and not being turned away.
    Sounds pinko to me.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambs said:

    I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

    He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)
    He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.
    If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
    I figured you'd miss out on the question.
    What's w/ the slight?

    To your question,
    The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
    They'll enroll in a plan after they get sick. I think this was the "free stuff" I kept hearing about in the primaries.
    Imagine, people asking others for help when they are sick and not being turned away.
    Sounds pinko to me.
    It doesn't sound pinko to President-elect Trump.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,946

    I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

    He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)
    He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.
    If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
    I figured you'd miss out on the question.
    What's w/ the slight?

    To your question,
    The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
    They'll enroll in a plan after they get sick. I think this was the "free stuff" I kept hearing about in the primaries.
    Imagine, people asking others for help when they are sick and not being turned away.
    Wow, this trump thing is starting to sound good. So people will now happily pay the skyrocketing premiums?
  • I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

    He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)
    He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.
    If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
    I figured you'd miss out on the question.
    What's w/ the slight?

    To your question,
    The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
    They'll enroll in a plan after they get sick. I think this was the "free stuff" I kept hearing about in the primaries.
    Imagine, people asking others for help when they are sick and not being turned away.
    Wow, this trump thing is starting to sound good. So people will now happily pay the skyrocketing premiums?
    Stop scaring people.
    Why do you think this will happen? (think critically)
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,946

    I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

    He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)
    He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.
    If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
    I figured you'd miss out on the question.
    What's w/ the slight?

    To your question,
    The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
    They'll enroll in a plan after they get sick. I think this was the "free stuff" I kept hearing about in the primaries.
    Imagine, people asking others for help when they are sick and not being turned away.
    Wow, this trump thing is starting to sound good. So people will now happily pay the skyrocketing premiums?
    Stop scaring people.
    Why do you think this will happen? (think critically)
    I just pointed that out. Example: sorry dave, you have cancer. Dave enrolls in insurance the next day. Dave's $100k chemo is covered. Thanks trump!
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited November 2016

    I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

    He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)
    He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.
    If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
    I figured you'd miss out on the question.
    What's w/ the slight?

    To your question,
    The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
    They'll enroll in a plan after they get sick. I think this was the "free stuff" I kept hearing about in the primaries.
    Imagine, people asking others for help when they are sick and not being turned away.
    Wow, this trump thing is starting to sound good. So people will now happily pay the skyrocketing premiums?
    Stop scaring people.
    Why do you think this will happen? (think critically)
    I just pointed that out. Example: sorry dave, you have cancer. Dave enrolls in insurance the next day. Dave's $100k chemo is covered. Thanks trump!
    So what happens to Dave today applying for insurance w/ cancer? - in your country
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,946

    I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

    He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)
    He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.
    If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
    I figured you'd miss out on the question.
    What's w/ the slight?

    To your question,
    The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
    They'll enroll in a plan after they get sick. I think this was the "free stuff" I kept hearing about in the primaries.
    Imagine, people asking others for help when they are sick and not being turned away.
    Wow, this trump thing is starting to sound good. So people will now happily pay the skyrocketing premiums?
    Stop scaring people.
    Why do you think this will happen? (think critically)
    I just pointed that out. Example: sorry dave, you have cancer. Dave enrolls in insurance the next day. Dave's $100k chemo is covered. Thanks trump!
    So what happens to Dave today applying for insurance w/ cancer? - in your country
    He should've already been enrolled. In trumpword, why would anyone be enrolled? We would all be like dave.
  • I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

    He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)
    He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.
    If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
    I figured you'd miss out on the question.
    What's w/ the slight?

    To your question,
    The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
    They'll enroll in a plan after they get sick. I think this was the "free stuff" I kept hearing about in the primaries.
    Imagine, people asking others for help when they are sick and not being turned away.
    Wow, this trump thing is starting to sound good. So people will now happily pay the skyrocketing premiums?
    Stop scaring people.
    Why do you think this will happen? (think critically)
    I just pointed that out. Example: sorry dave, you have cancer. Dave enrolls in insurance the next day. Dave's $100k chemo is covered. Thanks trump!
    So what happens to Dave today applying for insurance w/ cancer? - in your country
    He should've already been enrolled. In trumpword, why would anyone be enrolled? We would all be like dave.
    Should've? - who is going to enforce that?
    President-elect Trump is saying that anyone will be able to enroll.
    Up until Dave got cancer why did he need to pay insurance premiums?
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,946

    I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

    He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)
    He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.
    If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
    I figured you'd miss out on the question.
    What's w/ the slight?

    To your question,
    The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
    They'll enroll in a plan after they get sick. I think this was the "free stuff" I kept hearing about in the primaries.
    Imagine, people asking others for help when they are sick and not being turned away.
    Wow, this trump thing is starting to sound good. So people will now happily pay the skyrocketing premiums?
    Stop scaring people.
    Why do you think this will happen? (think critically)
    I just pointed that out. Example: sorry dave, you have cancer. Dave enrolls in insurance the next day. Dave's $100k chemo is covered. Thanks trump!
    So what happens to Dave today applying for insurance w/ cancer? - in your country
    He should've already been enrolled. In trumpword, why would anyone be enrolled? We would all be like dave.
    Should've? - who is going to enforce that?
    President-elect Trump is saying that anyone will be able to enroll.
    Up until Dave got cancer why did he need to pay insurance premiums?
    There's a penalty if you're not enrolled currently.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,710
    They are claiming they are going to replace it with HSAs. How that is a replacement of healthcare is anyone's guess.

    Medicare is going to be privatized.

    These are not good things.
  • I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

    He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)
    He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.
    If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
    I figured you'd miss out on the question.
    What's w/ the slight?

    To your question,
    The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
    They'll enroll in a plan after they get sick. I think this was the "free stuff" I kept hearing about in the primaries.
    Imagine, people asking others for help when they are sick and not being turned away.
    Wow, this trump thing is starting to sound good. So people will now happily pay the skyrocketing premiums?
    Stop scaring people.
    Why do you think this will happen? (think critically)
    I just pointed that out. Example: sorry dave, you have cancer. Dave enrolls in insurance the next day. Dave's $100k chemo is covered. Thanks trump!
    So what happens to Dave today applying for insurance w/ cancer? - in your country
    He should've already been enrolled. In trumpword, why would anyone be enrolled? We would all be like dave.
    Should've? - who is going to enforce that?
    President-elect Trump is saying that anyone will be able to enroll.
    Up until Dave got cancer why did he need to pay insurance premiums?
    There's a penalty if you're not enrolled currently.
    President-elect Trump is offering no penalty.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,946

    I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

    He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)
    He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.
    If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
    I figured you'd miss out on the question.
    What's w/ the slight?

    To your question,
    The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
    They'll enroll in a plan after they get sick. I think this was the "free stuff" I kept hearing about in the primaries.
    Imagine, people asking others for help when they are sick and not being turned away.
    Wow, this trump thing is starting to sound good. So people will now happily pay the skyrocketing premiums?
    Stop scaring people.
    Why do you think this will happen? (think critically)
    I just pointed that out. Example: sorry dave, you have cancer. Dave enrolls in insurance the next day. Dave's $100k chemo is covered. Thanks trump!
    So what happens to Dave today applying for insurance w/ cancer? - in your country
    He should've already been enrolled. In trumpword, why would anyone be enrolled? We would all be like dave.
    Should've? - who is going to enforce that?
    President-elect Trump is saying that anyone will be able to enroll.
    Up until Dave got cancer why did he need to pay insurance premiums?
    There's a penalty if you're not enrolled currently.
    President-elect Trump is offering no penalty.
    Ummm..that's what I'm saying. None of us will need to be enrolled, and then we enroll when we're sick. That means a lot of money going out, and not much coming in.
  • I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

    He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)
    He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.
    If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
    I figured you'd miss out on the question.
    What's w/ the slight?

    To your question,
    The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
    They'll enroll in a plan after they get sick. I think this was the "free stuff" I kept hearing about in the primaries.
    Imagine, people asking others for help when they are sick and not being turned away.
    Wow, this trump thing is starting to sound good. So people will now happily pay the skyrocketing premiums?
    Stop scaring people.
    Why do you think this will happen? (think critically)
    I just pointed that out. Example: sorry dave, you have cancer. Dave enrolls in insurance the next day. Dave's $100k chemo is covered. Thanks trump!
    So what happens to Dave today applying for insurance w/ cancer? - in your country
    He should've already been enrolled. In trumpword, why would anyone be enrolled? We would all be like dave.
    Should've? - who is going to enforce that?
    President-elect Trump is saying that anyone will be able to enroll.
    Up until Dave got cancer why did he need to pay insurance premiums?
    There's a penalty if you're not enrolled currently.
    President-elect Trump is offering no penalty.
    Ummm..that's what I'm saying. None of us will need to be enrolled, and then we enroll when we're sick. That means a lot of money going out, and not much coming in.
    It's hard to decipher what you mean sometimes.
    Do you really think a penalty is necessary for not being enrolled?
    Do you really think that all of a sudden every American will all of sudden drop their insurance with President-elect Trumps plan in place?
    He is not saying to only enroll when you are sick - he is saying that pre-existing conditions that have previously denied applications will no longer be the case.

  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,520
    lukin2006 said:

    Why 53 per cent of America’s white females voted for Donald Trump, even if they were offended by him

    http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/why-53-per-cent-of-americas-white-females-voted-for-donald-trump-even-if-they-were-offended-by-him

    yup just white males voted him...

    and i will not take the approach by calling people uneducated, I'll leave that for the elitists....

    53% of the ones who actually voted out of the 49% of all registered american humans, all genders, that voted. not 53% of america's white females. that's a massively misleading headline.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,946
    edited November 2016

    I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

    He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)
    He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.
    If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
    I figured you'd miss out on the question.
    What's w/ the slight?

    To your question,
    The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
    They'll enroll in a plan after they get sick. I think this was the "free stuff" I kept hearing about in the primaries.
    Imagine, people asking others for help when they are sick and not being turned away.
    Wow, this trump thing is starting to sound good. So people will now happily pay the skyrocketing premiums?
    Stop scaring people.
    Why do you think this will happen? (think critically)
    I just pointed that out. Example: sorry dave, you have cancer. Dave enrolls in insurance the next day. Dave's $100k chemo is covered. Thanks trump!
    So what happens to Dave today applying for insurance w/ cancer? - in your country
    He should've already been enrolled. In trumpword, why would anyone be enrolled? We would all be like dave.
    Should've? - who is going to enforce that?
    President-elect Trump is saying that anyone will be able to enroll.
    Up until Dave got cancer why did he need to pay insurance premiums?
    There's a penalty if you're not enrolled currently.
    President-elect Trump is offering no penalty.
    Ummm..that's what I'm saying. None of us will need to be enrolled, and then we enroll when we're sick. That means a lot of money going out, and not much coming in.
    It's hard to decipher what you mean sometimes.
    Do you really think a penalty is necessary for not being enrolled?
    Do you really think that all of a sudden every American will all of sudden drop their insurance with President-elect Trumps plan in place?
    He is not saying to only enroll when you are sick - he is saying that pre-existing conditions that have previously denied applications will no longer be the case.

    Unless you have ongoing health issues, there's no reason to be enrolled in trumpworld insurance. It would be like if it wasn't required to have car insurance, but after a crash, you could enroll and have your pre-existing crash covered. No one would have car insurance in that situation. You could just spend $250 to cover the $4k body work.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    You are wasting your time GB
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,561

    I don't see this as bad in any form whatsoever.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

    He wants to end the mandate to enroll, but keep the provision that says you can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. Now, what do you see as a negative outcome? (Question requires critical thinking which trump lacks)
    He hasn't done anything to healthcare at all but when he does he has stated that he will keep the provisions that he likes from Obamacare that many other Americans found appealing.
    If you have time read this https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/HCReformPaper.pdf
    I figured you'd miss out on the question.
    What's w/ the slight?

    To your question,
    The negative outcome I can possibly see is that the people who currently have pre-existing conditions still won't even bother to apply for insurance even though it won't be a barrier.
    They'll enroll in a plan after they get sick. I think this was the "free stuff" I kept hearing about in the primaries.
    Imagine, people asking others for help when they are sick and not being turned away.
    Wow, this trump thing is starting to sound good. So people will now happily pay the skyrocketing premiums?
    Stop scaring people.
    Why do you think this will happen? (think critically)
    I just pointed that out. Example: sorry dave, you have cancer. Dave enrolls in insurance the next day. Dave's $100k chemo is covered. Thanks trump!
    So what happens to Dave today applying for insurance w/ cancer? - in your country
    He should've already been enrolled. In trumpword, why would anyone be enrolled? We would all be like dave.
    Should've? - who is going to enforce that?
    President-elect Trump is saying that anyone will be able to enroll.
    Up until Dave got cancer why did he need to pay insurance premiums?
    There's a penalty if you're not enrolled currently.
    President-elect Trump is offering no penalty.
    Ummm..that's what I'm saying. None of us will need to be enrolled, and then we enroll when we're sick. That means a lot of money going out, and not much coming in.
    It's hard to decipher what you mean sometimes.
    Do you really think a penalty is necessary for not being enrolled?
    Do you really think that all of a sudden every American will all of sudden drop their insurance with President-elect Trumps plan in place?
    He is not saying to only enroll when you are sick - he is saying that pre-existing conditions that have previously denied applications will no longer be the case.

    Unless you have ongoing health issues, there's no reason to be enrolled in trumpworld insurance. It would be like if it wasn't required to have car insurance, but after a crash, you could enroll and have your pre-existing crash covered. No one would have car insurance in that situation. You could just spend $250 to cover the $4k body work.
    Agreed, I wouldn't pay out of my paycheck monthly for something I may need, but could sign up for when I did. Just plan your yearly check up and ride it out. Need a prescription refilled, sign back up

    Unless you're terminally sick or pregnant, most people wouldn't be enrolled, especially middle class and low income families. Where's the insurance company going to make up all that lost revenue? There'd be a huge loss of jobs.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • ^^^
    Health and car insurance are two different ballgames.
    President-elect Trumps plan will require price transparency from all healthcare providers, especially doctors and healthcare organizations like clinics and hospitals. Individuals should be able to shop to find the best prices for procedures, exams or any other medical-related procedure. He proposes to allow individuals to fully deduct health insurance premium payments from their tax returns under the current tax system.
    He also proposes to modify the existing law that inhibits the sale of health insurance across state lines. As long as the plan purchased complies with state requirements, any vendor ought to be able to offer insurance in any state. By allowing full competition in this market, insurance costs will go down and consumer satisfaction will go up.

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