Trump

PJ_Soul

unsung said:

That's not my mission. That's preaching to the choir.

I'm trying to guide everyone to rid themselves of government and stop worshipping it. Live your lives free. My work here is to help leftists find freedom, as there is not much demand here to show neocons the light of personal liberty.

..... Seriously? If that's your goal maybe start posting things about how to farm, build log cabins or maybe dugouts, live without utilities, weave fabric, and steer a wagon horse team. Maybe some maps showing where you can go and live without paying taxes and somehow not get nabbed for keeping your kids out of the education system.

PJ_Soul

mrussel1 said:

Godfather. said:

mrussel1 said:

Godfather. said:

Democratic Party officials reportedly are bracing for the possibility that another batch of damaging or embarrassing internal emails — the kind that cost the party chairman her job on the eve of the Democratic National Convention — could become public before the November presidential election.

That fear reportedly comes as officials with knowledge of a Russian cyberattack that targeted Democratic politicians and organizations told The New York Times that the breach was bigger than first thought and exposed the private email accounts of more than 100 party officials and groups — including the personal email accounts of Hillary Clinton’s key campaign officials.

The apparent wider breach reportedly has prompted the FBI to broaden its investigation, and agents have begun notifying top Democratic officials that the Russians may have breached their personal accounts, the Times reported.

An earlier release of emails just days before the party convention in Philadelphia cost Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz her job as party chairman, while party CEO Amy Dacey; chief finance officer Brad Marshall; and communications director Luis Miranda resigned last week.

The New York Times reported that the Democratic Governors’ Association also may have been affected by the security breach.

In all cases, the malware used in the hacking points to Russian involvement, sources told the Times.

Enjoy.
Godfather.

There's no doubt the Russians are biding their time in order to maximize the damage to Clinton and maximize the benefit to Trump. That must make you feel pretty good, that the head of a belligerent state is seeking to influence the election to the benefit of your candidate. I'm sure that Trump, as a career businessman, is immune to quid pro quo.

so if the Russians nail Hillary who's fault is it ? old friend of mine used to say "what ever you do in the dark will come out in the light"
do you really think Trump is sleeping with the Russians ?

Godfather.

I think Trump is bizarrely susceptible to flattery. It's part of his personality which is narcissistic and that of an egomaniac. So when Putin started floating him compliments, he ate it up and played right into Putin's hands. Putin is an ex-KGB colonel. He is not to be trifled with from a psychological perspective, and he has his fingers in Trump. More directly however, I find his senior campaign aides' relationships with the Russian oligarchs and the Russian-sympathizing Ukrainians very troubling. It is quite clear that the Russians influenced the RNC platform through the Trump campaign. That's not cute at all, it's dangerous.

Yeah, that's totally true. I actually know someone like this. A little flattery goes a LONG LONG way with narcissist egomaniacs. They are actually very easy to manipulate if you know how, and it's not hard. Just make sure he knows that you have common enemies, plus a little tickling under the chin and some good old fashioned ego stroking will do it.

Godfather.

PJ_Soul said:

mrussel1 said:

Godfather. said:

mrussel1 said:

Godfather. said:

Democratic Party officials reportedly are bracing for the possibility that another batch of damaging or embarrassing internal emails — the kind that cost the party chairman her job on the eve of the Democratic National Convention — could become public before the November presidential election.

That fear reportedly comes as officials with knowledge of a Russian cyberattack that targeted Democratic politicians and organizations told The New York Times that the breach was bigger than first thought and exposed the private email accounts of more than 100 party officials and groups — including the personal email accounts of Hillary Clinton’s key campaign officials.

The apparent wider breach reportedly has prompted the FBI to broaden its investigation, and agents have begun notifying top Democratic officials that the Russians may have breached their personal accounts, the Times reported.

An earlier release of emails just days before the party convention in Philadelphia cost Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz her job as party chairman, while party CEO Amy Dacey; chief finance officer Brad Marshall; and communications director Luis Miranda resigned last week.

The New York Times reported that the Democratic Governors’ Association also may have been affected by the security breach.

In all cases, the malware used in the hacking points to Russian involvement, sources told the Times.

Enjoy.
Godfather.

There's no doubt the Russians are biding their time in order to maximize the damage to Clinton and maximize the benefit to Trump. That must make you feel pretty good, that the head of a belligerent state is seeking to influence the election to the benefit of your candidate. I'm sure that Trump, as a career businessman, is immune to quid pro quo.

so if the Russians nail Hillary who's fault is it ? old friend of mine used to say "what ever you do in the dark will come out in the light"
do you really think Trump is sleeping with the Russians ?

Godfather.

I think Trump is bizarrely susceptible to flattery. It's part of his personality which is narcissistic and that of an egomaniac. So when Putin started floating him compliments, he ate it up and played right into Putin's hands. Putin is an ex-KGB colonel. He is not to be trifled with from a psychological perspective, and he has his fingers in Trump. More directly however, I find his senior campaign aides' relationships with the Russian oligarchs and the Russian-sympathizing Ukrainians very troubling. It is quite clear that the Russians influenced the RNC platform through the Trump campaign. That's not cute at all, it's dangerous.

Yeah, that's totally true. I actually know someone like this. A little flattery goes a LONG LONG way with narcissist egomaniacs. They are actually very easy to manipulate if you know how, and it's not hard. Just make sure he knows that you have common enemies, plus a little tickling under the chin and some good old fashioned ego stroking will do it.

ohhhh that's just mean trickery ! HAHHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAH


Godfather.

Bentleyspop

PJ_Soul said:

mrussel1 said:

Godfather. said:

mrussel1 said:

Godfather. said:

Democratic Party officials reportedly are bracing for the possibility that another batch of damaging or embarrassing internal emails — the kind that cost the party chairman her job on the eve of the Democratic National Convention — could become public before the November presidential election.

That fear reportedly comes as officials with knowledge of a Russian cyberattack that targeted Democratic politicians and organizations told The New York Times that the breach was bigger than first thought and exposed the private email accounts of more than 100 party officials and groups — including the personal email accounts of Hillary Clinton’s key campaign officials.

The apparent wider breach reportedly has prompted the FBI to broaden its investigation, and agents have begun notifying top Democratic officials that the Russians may have breached their personal accounts, the Times reported.

An earlier release of emails just days before the party convention in Philadelphia cost Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz her job as party chairman, while party CEO Amy Dacey; chief finance officer Brad Marshall; and communications director Luis Miranda resigned last week.

The New York Times reported that the Democratic Governors’ Association also may have been affected by the security breach.

In all cases, the malware used in the hacking points to Russian involvement, sources told the Times.

Enjoy.
Godfather.

There's no doubt the Russians are biding their time in order to maximize the damage to Clinton and maximize the benefit to Trump. That must make you feel pretty good, that the head of a belligerent state is seeking to influence the election to the benefit of your candidate. I'm sure that Trump, as a career businessman, is immune to quid pro quo.

so if the Russians nail Hillary who's fault is it ? old friend of mine used to say "what ever you do in the dark will come out in the light"
do you really think Trump is sleeping with the Russians ?

Godfather.

I think Trump is bizarrely susceptible to flattery. It's part of his personality which is narcissistic and that of an egomaniac. So when Putin started floating him compliments, he ate it up and played right into Putin's hands. Putin is an ex-KGB colonel. He is not to be trifled with from a psychological perspective, and he has his fingers in Trump. More directly however, I find his senior campaign aides' relationships with the Russian oligarchs and the Russian-sympathizing Ukrainians very troubling. It is quite clear that the Russians influenced the RNC platform through the Trump campaign. That's not cute at all, it's dangerous.

Yeah, that's totally true. I actually know someone like this. A little flattery goes a LONG LONG way with narcissist egomaniacs. They are actually very easy to manipulate if you know how, and it's not hard. Just make sure he knows that you have common enemies, plus a little tickling under the chin and some good old fashioned ego stroking will do it.

Yup
drumpf is a textbook narcissist

unsung

HughFreakingDillon said:

you can't argue/reason with someone who spends all their time criticizing EVERYONE. he wants zero government, wild west style.

I actually don't. But it's your story stick with it.

Desiring the destruction of these two political parties and restoring the general government to what is listed in art 1 sec VIII is not wild west.

unsung

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

That's not my mission. That's preaching to the choir.

I'm trying to guide everyone to rid themselves of government and stop worshipping it. Live your lives free. My work here is to help leftists find freedom, as there is not much demand here to show neocons the light of personal liberty.

..... Seriously? If that's your goal maybe start posting things about how to farm, build log cabins or maybe dugouts, live without utilities, weave fabric, and steer a wagon horse team. Maybe some maps showing where you can go and live without paying taxes and somehow not get nabbed for keeping your kids out of the education system.

Government owns utilities? Government owns the textile mills too? Government created housing? Home schooling is illegal? Private schools don't exist?

Nope. Serious.

HughFreakingDillon

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

you can't argue/reason with someone who spends all their time criticizing EVERYONE. he wants zero government, wild west style.

I actually don't. But it's your story stick with it.

Desiring the destruction of these two political parties and restoring the general government to what is listed in art 1 sec VIII is not wild west.

in this day and age, it would be.

unsung

I'll take my chances.

PJ_Soul

unsung said:

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

That's not my mission. That's preaching to the choir.

I'm trying to guide everyone to rid themselves of government and stop worshipping it. Live your lives free. My work here is to help leftists find freedom, as there is not much demand here to show neocons the light of personal liberty.

..... Seriously? If that's your goal maybe start posting things about how to farm, build log cabins or maybe dugouts, live without utilities, weave fabric, and steer a wagon horse team. Maybe some maps showing where you can go and live without paying taxes and somehow not get nabbed for keeping your kids out of the education system.

Government owns utilities? Government owns the textile mills too? Government created housing? Home schooling is illegal? Private schools don't exist?

Nope. Serious.

All of these things function because government enables it. Home schooling is still governed. It's not just a free for all where parents can create their own curriculum. Same with private schools. There is still oversight, laws connected to it, etc. Same with housing. Same with roads, industry, law enforcement, emergency response, agriculture, and pretty much everything else. If you want to rid yourself of government you really do have to go off the grid.

mrussel1

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

you can't argue/reason with someone who spends all their time criticizing EVERYONE. he wants zero government, wild west style.

I actually don't. But it's your story stick with it.

Desiring the destruction of these two political parties and restoring the general government to what is listed in art 1 sec VIII is not wild west.

Article 1/VIII is not exactly chock full of Libertarian policies. There is not clear overlap between a constructionist or textualist and a libertarian. There is no talk of free market principles, as an example. In fact, the right to set tariffs seems to run directly contrary to a Libertarian view.

Halifax2TheMax

unsung said:

That's not my mission. That's preaching to the choir.

I'm trying to guide everyone to rid themselves of government and stop worshipping it. Live your lives free. My work here is to help leftists find freedom, as there is not much demand here to show neocons the light of personal liberty.

Who sent you?

unsung

Liberty.

unsung

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

That's not my mission. That's preaching to the choir.

I'm trying to guide everyone to rid themselves of government and stop worshipping it. Live your lives free. My work here is to help leftists find freedom, as there is not much demand here to show neocons the light of personal liberty.

..... Seriously? If that's your goal maybe start posting things about how to farm, build log cabins or maybe dugouts, live without utilities, weave fabric, and steer a wagon horse team. Maybe some maps showing where you can go and live without paying taxes and somehow not get nabbed for keeping your kids out of the education system.

Government owns utilities? Government owns the textile mills too? Government created housing? Home schooling is illegal? Private schools don't exist?

Nope. Serious.

All of these things function because government enables it. Home schooling is still governed. It's not just a free for all where parents can create their own curriculum. Same with private schools. There is still oversight, laws connected to it, etc. Same with housing. Same with roads, industry, law enforcement, emergency response, agriculture, and pretty much everything else. If you want to rid yourself of government you really do have to go off the grid.

You actually believe that these things couldn't exist without government?

Gern Blansten

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/291153-never-trump-republicans-call-on-rnc-to-stop-funding-trump

"Given the catastrophic impact that Donald Trump’s losing presidential campaign will have on down-ballot Senate and House races, we urge you to immediately suspend all discretionary RNC support for Trump and focus the entirety of the RNC’s available resources on preserving the GOP’s congressional majorities," a draft of the letter says.

"Donald Trump’s divisiveness, recklessness, incompetence, and record-breaking unpopularity risk turning this election into a Democratic landslide, and only the immediate shift of all available RNC resources to vulnerable Senate and House races will prevent the GOP from drowning with a Trump-emblazoned anchor around its neck."

LOL....your hero

PJ_Soul

unsung said:

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

That's not my mission. That's preaching to the choir.

I'm trying to guide everyone to rid themselves of government and stop worshipping it. Live your lives free. My work here is to help leftists find freedom, as there is not much demand here to show neocons the light of personal liberty.

..... Seriously? If that's your goal maybe start posting things about how to farm, build log cabins or maybe dugouts, live without utilities, weave fabric, and steer a wagon horse team. Maybe some maps showing where you can go and live without paying taxes and somehow not get nabbed for keeping your kids out of the education system.

Government owns utilities? Government owns the textile mills too? Government created housing? Home schooling is illegal? Private schools don't exist?

Nope. Serious.

All of these things function because government enables it. Home schooling is still governed. It's not just a free for all where parents can create their own curriculum. Same with private schools. There is still oversight, laws connected to it, etc. Same with housing. Same with roads, industry, law enforcement, emergency response, agriculture, and pretty much everything else. If you want to rid yourself of government you really do have to go off the grid.

You actually believe that these things couldn't exist without government?

That's right. Do you think there is any real reason to think they could? Pretty sure there isn't a single example of that in all of human history. But you think you've got it all figured out?

mrussel1

unsung said:

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

That's not my mission. That's preaching to the choir.

I'm trying to guide everyone to rid themselves of government and stop worshipping it. Live your lives free. My work here is to help leftists find freedom, as there is not much demand here to show neocons the light of personal liberty.

..... Seriously? If that's your goal maybe start posting things about how to farm, build log cabins or maybe dugouts, live without utilities, weave fabric, and steer a wagon horse team. Maybe some maps showing where you can go and live without paying taxes and somehow not get nabbed for keeping your kids out of the education system.

Government owns utilities? Government owns the textile mills too? Government created housing? Home schooling is illegal? Private schools don't exist?

Nope. Serious.

All of these things function because government enables it. Home schooling is still governed. It's not just a free for all where parents can create their own curriculum. Same with private schools. There is still oversight, laws connected to it, etc. Same with housing. Same with roads, industry, law enforcement, emergency response, agriculture, and pretty much everything else. If you want to rid yourself of government you really do have to go off the grid.

You actually believe that these things couldn't exist without government?

I love how you continue to ignore my challenges to Libertarian principles.

Alas, these things could exist in theory. You could have a private police force. You could have private FD. You call 911 and have your credit card ready and a response is forthcoming. Hopefully the credit card machine is not broken, otherwise someone dies. Now police, EMS, FD, etc. is already state or local run, so my scenario must be your argument. So again... ultra-Libertarian policies sound fucking awesome in a text book, but no one has implemented them yet in totality, let alone a first world country.

unsung

I'm ignoring them because I'm not a Libertarian. Try and keep up.

unsung

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

That's not my mission. That's preaching to the choir.

I'm trying to guide everyone to rid themselves of government and stop worshipping it. Live your lives free. My work here is to help leftists find freedom, as there is not much demand here to show neocons the light of personal liberty.

..... Seriously? If that's your goal maybe start posting things about how to farm, build log cabins or maybe dugouts, live without utilities, weave fabric, and steer a wagon horse team. Maybe some maps showing where you can go and live without paying taxes and somehow not get nabbed for keeping your kids out of the education system.

Government owns utilities? Government owns the textile mills too? Government created housing? Home schooling is illegal? Private schools don't exist?

Nope. Serious.

All of these things function because government enables it. Home schooling is still governed. It's not just a free for all where parents can create their own curriculum. Same with private schools. There is still oversight, laws connected to it, etc. Same with housing. Same with roads, industry, law enforcement, emergency response, agriculture, and pretty much everything else. If you want to rid yourself of government you really do have to go off the grid.

You actually believe that these things couldn't exist without government?

That's right. Do you think there is any real reason to think they could? Pretty sure there isn't a single example of that in all of human history. But you think you've got it all figured out?

All the paving companies around my world are private companies.

I can easily build a house without government, they are only involved under their monopoly on force. Remove that threat and I could do it.

mrussel1

unsung said:

I'm ignoring them because I'm not a Libertarian. Try and keep up.

I apologize. I didn't see you type that. Considering the views you are pushing and the fact your avatar is Ron Paul, you can see how my deduction is reasonable. So what are you? Constructionist? Textualist?

mrussel1

unsung said:

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

PJ_Soul said:

unsung said:

That's not my mission. That's preaching to the choir.

I'm trying to guide everyone to rid themselves of government and stop worshipping it. Live your lives free. My work here is to help leftists find freedom, as there is not much demand here to show neocons the light of personal liberty.

..... Seriously? If that's your goal maybe start posting things about how to farm, build log cabins or maybe dugouts, live without utilities, weave fabric, and steer a wagon horse team. Maybe some maps showing where you can go and live without paying taxes and somehow not get nabbed for keeping your kids out of the education system.

Government owns utilities? Government owns the textile mills too? Government created housing? Home schooling is illegal? Private schools don't exist?

Nope. Serious.

All of these things function because government enables it. Home schooling is still governed. It's not just a free for all where parents can create their own curriculum. Same with private schools. There is still oversight, laws connected to it, etc. Same with housing. Same with roads, industry, law enforcement, emergency response, agriculture, and pretty much everything else. If you want to rid yourself of government you really do have to go off the grid.

You actually believe that these things couldn't exist without government?

That's right. Do you think there is any real reason to think they could? Pretty sure there isn't a single example of that in all of human history. But you think you've got it all figured out?

All the paving companies around my world are private companies.

I can easily build a house without government, they are only involved under their monopoly on force. Remove that threat and I could do it.

The government does not own any pavement companies today and hasn't since the New Deal. So that's a false equivalency. What about the example of public services like 911, FD, Police, etc? You got that covered too? Do you have your firetruck and ladder or is there a company in your area that provides that service to you?