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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

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    I am tired; my heart is
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    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    For the Don. Listen and learn, man!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX-O-cXtLG8
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,040
    hedonist said:

    For the Don. Listen and learn, man!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX-O-cXtLG8

    Ooh, good learnin'!
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,174
    Trump lost "100s of friends on 9/11" but can't name one.

    He watched "people jumping from the twin towers" from his penthouse apartment......4 miles away.

    and he's now having trouble differentiating 9/11 from 7-11.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    ......this really pains me, I am thinking that neither Bernie or Trump will be President, I think Hitlery has too much juice and power not to get the job ..or in her case the opportunity to cast a wider net of crime and destruction, she and her husband have become too powerful and destructive and need to be arrested and given life sentence's. Just my opinion though. if Trump is not elected president I'm moving to Thailand LOL !!!!!!

    Godfather.

    Sounds like the perfect place for you, since you're into imprisoning people for their political views and throwing away the key.
    imprisoning people for their political views ...throwing away the key ? when did I say that ? or even implied it ?

    I guess I should of known that there are some Hitlery fans here......to the dungeon with all of you HAHAHHAHHAHHAHHA.
    zieg hile !
    Godfuthrer ......HAHHAHAHHA couldn't help myself.



    I'm not a Hilary fan. I would have thought that was obvious by now.
    But you said that the Clintons should be thrown in prison for life. Since they have not been convicted of any crimes, what else am I supposed to assume, other than that you are in support of imprisoning people for their political views, since that is what you're choosing to call crimes, without any charges or a trial.
    well I think most people know that her crime is not her political views but what she has done to promote herself and her political views...all the rumors and stories started with some kind of factual basis's, look into the Clintons drug deals and murders and then there's the obvious stuff like erasing her emails and so on..I NEVER said arrest her for her political views, as far as politician's go she and her husband are probably 2 of the sharpest but I believe they both got caught up in the game.

    Godfather.

    Turn off Faux News man....seriously
    I've said it before and I'll say it again. Godfather is like PJ when it comes to quality "trolling." Pjfanwillneverleave is more like Creed or Nickelback.
    awesome !

    Godfather.

  • PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    ......this really pains me, I am thinking that neither Bernie or Trump will be President, I think Hitlery has too much juice and power not to get the job ..or in her case the opportunity to cast a wider net of crime and destruction, she and her husband have become too powerful and destructive and need to be arrested and given life sentence's. Just my opinion though. if Trump is not elected president I'm moving to Thailand LOL !!!!!!

    Godfather.

    Sounds like the perfect place for you, since you're into imprisoning people for their political views and throwing away the key.
    imprisoning people for their political views ...throwing away the key ? when did I say that ? or even implied it ?

    I guess I should of known that there are some Hitlery fans here......to the dungeon with all of you HAHAHHAHHAHHAHHA.
    zieg hile !
    Godfuthrer ......HAHHAHAHHA couldn't help myself.



    I'm not a Hilary fan. I would have thought that was obvious by now.
    But you said that the Clintons should be thrown in prison for life. Since they have not been convicted of any crimes, what else am I supposed to assume, other than that you are in support of imprisoning people for their political views, since that is what you're choosing to call crimes, without any charges or a trial.
    well I think most people know that her crime is not her political views but what she has done to promote herself and her political views...all the rumors and stories started with some kind of factual basis's, look into the Clintons drug deals and murders and then there's the obvious stuff like erasing her emails and so on..I NEVER said arrest her for her political views, as far as politician's go she and her husband are probably 2 of the sharpest but I believe they both got caught up in the game.

    Godfather.

    Turn off Faux News man....seriously
    I've said it before and I'll say it again. Godfather is like PJ when it comes to quality "trolling." Pjfanwillneverleave is more like Creed or Nickelback.
    awesome !

    Godfather.

    I guess New Yorker Trumphadists really love Trump!
    Wow what a win.

    Creed and Nicelback aren't so bad compared to some other bands.

  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    ......this really pains me, I am thinking that neither Bernie or Trump will be President, I think Hitlery has too much juice and power not to get the job ..or in her case the opportunity to cast a wider net of crime and destruction, she and her husband have become too powerful and destructive and need to be arrested and given life sentence's. Just my opinion though. if Trump is not elected president I'm moving to Thailand LOL !!!!!!

    Godfather.

    Sounds like the perfect place for you, since you're into imprisoning people for their political views and throwing away the key.
    imprisoning people for their political views ...throwing away the key ? when did I say that ? or even implied it ?

    I guess I should of known that there are some Hitlery fans here......to the dungeon with all of you HAHAHHAHHAHHAHHA.
    zieg hile !
    Godfuthrer ......HAHHAHAHHA couldn't help myself.



    I'm not a Hilary fan. I would have thought that was obvious by now.
    But you said that the Clintons should be thrown in prison for life. Since they have not been convicted of any crimes, what else am I supposed to assume, other than that you are in support of imprisoning people for their political views, since that is what you're choosing to call crimes, without any charges or a trial.
    well I think most people know that her crime is not her political views but what she has done to promote herself and her political views...all the rumors and stories started with some kind of factual basis's, look into the Clintons drug deals and murders and then there's the obvious stuff like erasing her emails and so on..I NEVER said arrest her for her political views, as far as politician's go she and her husband are probably 2 of the sharpest but I believe they both got caught up in the game.

    Godfather.

    Turn off Faux News man....seriously
    I've said it before and I'll say it again. Godfather is like PJ when it comes to quality "trolling." Pjfanwillneverleave is more like Creed or Nickelback.
    awesome !

    Godfather.

    I guess New Yorker Trumphadists really love Trump!
    Wow what a win.

    Creed and Nicelback aren't so bad compared to some other bands.

    Maroon 5, One Republic, Imagine Dragons
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    ......this really pains me, I am thinking that neither Bernie or Trump will be President, I think Hitlery has too much juice and power not to get the job ..or in her case the opportunity to cast a wider net of crime and destruction, she and her husband have become too powerful and destructive and need to be arrested and given life sentence's. Just my opinion though. if Trump is not elected president I'm moving to Thailand LOL !!!!!!

    Godfather.

    Sounds like the perfect place for you, since you're into imprisoning people for their political views and throwing away the key.
    imprisoning people for their political views ...throwing away the key ? when did I say that ? or even implied it ?

    I guess I should of known that there are some Hitlery fans here......to the dungeon with all of you HAHAHHAHHAHHAHHA.
    zieg hile !
    Godfuthrer ......HAHHAHAHHA couldn't help myself.



    I'm not a Hilary fan. I would have thought that was obvious by now.
    But you said that the Clintons should be thrown in prison for life. Since they have not been convicted of any crimes, what else am I supposed to assume, other than that you are in support of imprisoning people for their political views, since that is what you're choosing to call crimes, without any charges or a trial.
    well I think most people know that her crime is not her political views but what she has done to promote herself and her political views...all the rumors and stories started with some kind of factual basis's, look into the Clintons drug deals and murders and then there's the obvious stuff like erasing her emails and so on..I NEVER said arrest her for her political views, as far as politician's go she and her husband are probably 2 of the sharpest but I believe they both got caught up in the game.

    Godfather.

    Turn off Faux News man....seriously
    I've said it before and I'll say it again. Godfather is like PJ when it comes to quality "trolling." Pjfanwillneverleave is more like Creed or Nickelback.
    awesome !

    Godfather.

    I guess New Yorker Trumphadists really love Trump!
    Wow what a win.

    Creed and Nicelback aren't so bad compared to some other bands.

    Maroon 5, One Republic, Imagine Dragons
    What about 5SOS... They friggin' rule.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,040
    Trump wins 60 % of NY? Hello, earth to New York. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING??
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,567
    This is great GOP nominee Trump I can't believe there are this many people who actually believe he would make a good president , this country is whacked !!
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623
    brianlux said:

    Trump wins 60 % of NY? Hello, earth to New York. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING??

    That's his home and Cruz bad mouthed their values. Is anyone really surprised?
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,040

    brianlux said:

    Trump wins 60 % of NY? Hello, earth to New York. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING??

    That's his home and Cruz bad mouthed their values. Is anyone really surprised?
    I guess I'm not really surprised in the new current version of USA 2016. Strange though, so strange, because I think back to the two years I lived in the western part of NY I would have never guessed someday somebody like Trump would annihilate the competition in NY State, home of The Greatest City on Earth, Welche's Grapes and Baseball Hall of Fame. Strange, just strange.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    ......this really pains me, I am thinking that neither Bernie or Trump will be President, I think Hitlery has too much juice and power not to get the job ..or in her case the opportunity to cast a wider net of crime and destruction, she and her husband have become too powerful and destructive and need to be arrested and given life sentence's. Just my opinion though. if Trump is not elected president I'm moving to Thailand LOL !!!!!!

    Godfather.

    Sounds like the perfect place for you, since you're into imprisoning people for their political views and throwing away the key.
    imprisoning people for their political views ...throwing away the key ? when did I say that ? or even implied it ?

    I guess I should of known that there are some Hitlery fans here......to the dungeon with all of you HAHAHHAHHAHHAHHA.
    zieg hile !
    Godfuthrer ......HAHHAHAHHA couldn't help myself.



    I'm not a Hilary fan. I would have thought that was obvious by now.
    But you said that the Clintons should be thrown in prison for life. Since they have not been convicted of any crimes, what else am I supposed to assume, other than that you are in support of imprisoning people for their political views, since that is what you're choosing to call crimes, without any charges or a trial.
    well I think most people know that her crime is not her political views but what she has done to promote herself and her political views...all the rumors and stories started with some kind of factual basis's, look into the Clintons drug deals and murders and then there's the obvious stuff like erasing her emails and so on..I NEVER said arrest her for her political views, as far as politician's go she and her husband are probably 2 of the sharpest but I believe they both got caught up in the game.

    Godfather.

    Turn off Faux News man....seriously
    I've said it before and I'll say it again. Godfather is like PJ when it comes to quality "trolling." Pjfanwillneverleave is more like Creed or Nickelback.
    awesome !

    Godfather.

    This is great GOP nominee Trump I can't believe there are this many people who actually believe he would make a good president , this country is whacked !!

    and yet everyday 100's of people risk their lives to come here illegally....whoda thunk it ...in whacked out country like this ? LOL !!!!

    Godfather.

  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    America sucks... except when compared to everywhere else.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    mrussel1 said:

    America sucks... except when compared to everywhere else.

    .....dang ! hard to argue that.
    but on the other hand America is awesome it's out career politician's and corrupt politician's that need the boot.

    Godfather.

  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623

    mrussel1 said:

    America sucks... except when compared to everywhere else.

    .....dang ! hard to argue that.
    but on the other hand America is awesome it's out career politician's and corrupt politician's that need the boot.

    Godfather.

    And will be replaced by another one regardless of party.

    Meet the new boss...
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    edited April 2016

    mrussel1 said:

    America sucks... except when compared to everywhere else.

    .....dang ! hard to argue that.
    but on the other hand America is awesome it's out career politician's and corrupt politician's that need the boot.

    Godfather.

    And will be replaced by another one regardless of party.

    Meet the new boss...
    That's right. Find me a political leader that was 'pure'? It doesn't happen. You are not going to remove human nature from politics. People at teh top got there with ruthlessness and deal cutting. That's not changing any millennium soon.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    mrussel1 said:

    America sucks... except when compared to everywhere else.

    Well, except when compared to second and third world countries, anyway.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    mrussel1 said:

    America sucks... except when compared to everywhere else.

    .....dang ! hard to argue that.
    but on the other hand America is awesome it's out career politician's and corrupt politician's that need the boot.

    Godfather.

    And will be replaced by another one regardless of party.

    Meet the new boss...
    same as the old boss....unfortunately you are probably right and this is one reason I'll take a chance with Trump.

    Godfather.

  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    PJ_Soul said:

    mrussel1 said:

    America sucks... except when compared to everywhere else.

    Well, except when compared to second and third world countries, anyway.
    I lump Canada with 'Murica
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,040
    My suggestion is everyone who has not traveled out of the U.S. might want to read some good travel books, especially Henry Rollins Smile, You're Traveling because this is not the only marvelous place on earth. In fact, the most marvelous place on earth is earth.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    brianlux said:

    My suggestion is everyone who has not traveled out of the U.S. might want to read some good travel books, especially Henry Rollins Smile, You're Traveling because this is not the only marvelous place on earth. In fact, the most marvelous place on earth is earth.

    The United States has been the beacon of freedom and hope for 2 centuries. It's the land of opportunity. It's not perfect, but there's a hundred reasons why the immigrant patterns brought the masses here. It's the combination of government, freedom, natural resources, and the opportunity to assimilate, while maintaining some cultural identity. No other nation has ever been able to do what we've done at the scale at which we've done it. I hope you were just being a contrarian.
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    mrussel1 said:

    brianlux said:

    My suggestion is everyone who has not traveled out of the U.S. might want to read some good travel books, especially Henry Rollins Smile, You're Traveling because this is not the only marvelous place on earth. In fact, the most marvelous place on earth is earth.

    The United States has been the beacon of freedom and hope for 2 centuries. It's the land of opportunity. It's not perfect, but there's a hundred reasons why the immigrant patterns brought the masses here. It's the combination of government, freedom, natural resources, and the opportunity to assimilate, while maintaining some cultural identity. No other nation has ever been able to do what we've done at the scale at which we've done it. I hope you were just being a contrarian.
    Hundred Reasons?..K, 1,2,3 Go...List em.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    1. Freedom of religion
    2. Freedom of assembly
    3. Right to Bear Arm
    4. Don't have to quarter soldiers
    5. No ex-post facto laws (look it up, it's a biggie)
    6. Freedom of press
    7. Rights against unlawful search and seizure
    8. No double jeopardy
    9. No cruel and unusual punishment
    10. Tax payer funded public education (think this was the norm 100 years ago?)
    11. Right to trial by a jury of your peers
    12. Right to a speedy trial
    13. Full suffrage by US citizens
    14. Opportunity for all rights as a US citizen (with the exception of commander in chief)
    15. No state shall infringe on your rights
    16. Egalitarian opportunities
    17. Greatest set of natural resources in the world
    18. Jobs for immigrants
    19. Opportunities for advancement
    20. The most innovative society since the Romans
    21. We saved the world from tyranny in WWII
    22. We saved the world from the Soviets for the next 50 years
    23. We've been the innovator of most important inventions since the industrial revolution. Many of those came from immigrants.

    There's 20+ to start. I can keep going, but my immigrant father came from teh Ukraine because his family was being slaughtered by the Soviet government through famine. So instead of proving to you that there are 100 reasons that make America great, perhaps I should get back to the job I'm being paid to do, based on the sacrifice my father made to come over here with NOTHING but desire for something better.

    How about we do this.. name me a country that's been a better beacon of hope for the last...say 300 years than the US and we can have that debate.
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    You can keep going? So keep going. You said "Hundred Reasons". I'm curious. So please Continue.

    Then i'll take a part your list. I already see too much in your 20something for me to ignore.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    mrussel1 said:

    1. Freedom of religion
    2. Freedom of assembly
    3. Right to Bear Arm
    4. Don't have to quarter soldiers
    5. No ex-post facto laws (look it up, it's a biggie)
    6. Freedom of press
    7. Rights against unlawful search and seizure
    8. No double jeopardy
    9. No cruel and unusual punishment
    10. Tax payer funded public education (think this was the norm 100 years ago?)
    11. Right to trial by a jury of your peers
    12. Right to a speedy trial
    13. Full suffrage by US citizens
    14. Opportunity for all rights as a US citizen (with the exception of commander in chief)
    15. No state shall infringe on your rights
    16. Egalitarian opportunities
    17. Greatest set of natural resources in the world
    18. Jobs for immigrants
    19. Opportunities for advancement
    20. The most innovative society since the Romans
    21. We saved the world from tyranny in WWII
    22. We saved the world from the Soviets for the next 50 years
    23. We've been the innovator of most important inventions since the industrial revolution. Many of those came from immigrants.

    There's 20+ to start. I can keep going, but my immigrant father came from teh Ukraine because his family was being slaughtered by the Soviet government through famine. So instead of proving to you that there are 100 reasons that make America great, perhaps I should get back to the job I'm being paid to do, based on the sacrifice my father made to come over here with NOTHING but desire for something better.

    How about we do this.. name me a country that's been a better beacon of hope for the last...say 300 years than the US and we can have that debate.

    we take too much for granted...cool story and cool list.

    Godfather.

  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    edited April 2016
    Idris said:

    You can keep going? So keep going. You said "Hundred Reasons". I'm curious. So please Continue.

    Then i'll take a part your list. I already see too much in your 20something for me to ignore.

    Go ahead and pick it apart. I'm not in the mood to start writing for you as the audience. I'd love a good debate. But like I said, it's about the comparison vs other options, not Utopia. Don't tell me that "France has a better judicial process" while ignoring the Jacobin years. So for everything you pick apart, please give me an example of a country that has done that item better for 200+ years... oh and they better have done the other 20 things better too.
    Post edited by mrussel1 on
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    No. You said 'hundred Reasons'. What are they?
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    If you don't have em. Fine. I'll continue.
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