Trump

eddiec

lukin2006 said:

I know there not comparable ... 2 lived their off the public through lies at the trough. 2 of the most vile people on earth

Wow. I wonder where people like Milošević and Mugabe fall on your list if Bill and Hillary are battling for 1-2.

chadwick

PJ_Soul said:

Trump said he's cool with it. Has no problems with this. Also, he works very very closely with his sons - they will have influence if he wins. Actually, I bet that Trump Jr. already has his own eyes on the White House.

i thought the exact same thing

lukin2006

Gern Blansten said:

lukin2006 said:

I know there not comparable ... 2 lived their off the public through lies at the trough. 2 of the most vile people on earth

Trump was in the trough more than Clinton. Bankruptcy is the rich man's welfare....he had more than his fair share.

Here's the thing ... I don't think trump wants to president ... I don't

PJ_Soul said:

chadwick said:

trump is a lunatic. entertaining - yes.

i just can't

also, his kids are fulla shit. don't the two sons go trophy hunting on safari? who shot the elephant or was it a rhino? something about the shooter got to keep the tail of the beast? anyone?

Yup. Both sons, In all their glory. And they don't discriminate. They seem to be equal opportunists when it comes to which animals they gleefully slaughter for entertainment. I'm sure hacking off the tail of an elephant that you just murdered is very fulfilling.

We have an animal abuse thread for these picture ... I kid.

lukin2006

Kat said:

I need to vomit.

And all these wars and violence committed in the name of freedom committed by both parties ... that doesn't make you want to vomit? Please ... both parties are just as evil as those who trophy hunt.

Kat

You have no idea how many things make me want to vomit.

PJ_Soul

lukin2006 said:

Kat said:

I need to vomit.

And all these wars and violence committed in the name of freedom committed by both parties ... that doesn't make you want to vomit? Please ... both parties are just as evil as those who trophy hunt.

I'm pretty sure that not too many politicians choose war just for shits and giggles. Trophy hunting is killing for pure entertainment. I'm not saying that war violence doesn't also sicken me (I seriously doubt Kat likes it either). But the joy factor that is involved in hunting like this is what really gets to those of us who oppose hunting and who judge those who partake in it. Also, individual actions like this aren't comparable to the actions of an entire government. It's simply two different issues, and we were referring to hunting in this case.

lukin2006

Gern Blansten said:

lukin2006 said:

I know there not comparable ... 2 lived their off the public through lies at the trough. 2 of the most vile people on earth

Trump was in the trough more than Clinton. Bankruptcy is the rich man's welfare....he had more than his fair share.

Aren't bankruptcy laws federal? If so there been plenty of opportunities by both sides to change the laws. I'm not a trump supporter ... all politicians are joke, but more so career ones are the worst. And that's why a trump presidency would be hoot...

chadwick

pjfanwillneverleave1,

it has to do with trump because just moments ago i stated that trump's kids are fulla shit & this safari nonsense proves it. the kids have a lot of influence. hell they're speaking all over the place telling us how amazing their father is. im not into trusting someone who kills like this. therefore the trump boys are fulla shit

mrussel1

lukin2006 said:

Gern Blansten said:

lukin2006 said:

I know there not comparable ... 2 lived their off the public through lies at the trough. 2 of the most vile people on earth

Trump was in the trough more than Clinton. Bankruptcy is the rich man's welfare....he had more than his fair share.

Aren't bankruptcy laws federal? If so there been plenty of opportunities by both sides to change the laws. I'm not a trump supporter ... all politicians are joke, but more so career ones are the worst. And that's why a trump presidency would be hoot...

Of course they are federal. And I don't think anyone is arguing that BK laws are not appropriate and help people take a chance on business without exposing all of their personal assets. But filing bankruptcy is not exactly the sign of a savvy businessman. They also lever creditors with debt and that cost of credit gets passed onto other businesses.

lukin2006

mrussel1 said:

lukin2006 said:

Gern Blansten said:

lukin2006 said:

I know there not comparable ... 2 lived their off the public through lies at the trough. 2 of the most vile people on earth

Trump was in the trough more than Clinton. Bankruptcy is the rich man's welfare....he had more than his fair share.

Aren't bankruptcy laws federal? If so there been plenty of opportunities by both sides to change the laws. I'm not a trump supporter ... all politicians are joke, but more so career ones are the worst. And that's why a trump presidency would be hoot...

Of course they are federal. And I don't think anyone is arguing that BK laws are not appropriate and help people take a chance on business without exposing all of their personal assets. But filing bankruptcy is not exactly the sign of a savvy businessman. They also lever creditors with debt and that cost of credit gets passed onto other businesses.

I agree with you there ... so there all at the trough of some sort. Still don't think trump wants to be president ... or he wouldnt say crazy shit ...

PJ_Soul

lukin2006 said:

mrussel1 said:

lukin2006 said:

Gern Blansten said:

lukin2006 said:

I know there not comparable ... 2 lived their off the public through lies at the trough. 2 of the most vile people on earth

Trump was in the trough more than Clinton. Bankruptcy is the rich man's welfare....he had more than his fair share.

Aren't bankruptcy laws federal? If so there been plenty of opportunities by both sides to change the laws. I'm not a trump supporter ... all politicians are joke, but more so career ones are the worst. And that's why a trump presidency would be hoot...

Of course they are federal. And I don't think anyone is arguing that BK laws are not appropriate and help people take a chance on business without exposing all of their personal assets. But filing bankruptcy is not exactly the sign of a savvy businessman. They also lever creditors with debt and that cost of credit gets passed onto other businesses.

I agree with you there ... so there all at the trough of some sort. Still don't think trump wants to be president ... or he wouldnt say crazy shit ...

They're = they are
Their = the third person plural possessive adjective, used to describe something as belong to them
There =
1. Adverb that means the opposite of "here"

He’s over there.

Stop right there.

Do you want to sit here or there?

2. Pronoun that introduces a noun or clause.

There is something strange going on.

Is there a phone?

3. Adjective that emphasizes which person.

That guy there seems to be in trouble.

Those there look good.

4. Noun that means "that place."

From there, we drove to Boston.

I’m not going in there

Seriously not trying to be a grammar Nazi or an asshole, but you rarely use any of these correctly, so I just thought you might be able to benefit from this.

BS44325

mrussel1 said:

lukin2006 said:

Gern Blansten said:

lukin2006 said:

I know there not comparable ... 2 lived their off the public through lies at the trough. 2 of the most vile people on earth

Trump was in the trough more than Clinton. Bankruptcy is the rich man's welfare....he had more than his fair share.

Aren't bankruptcy laws federal? If so there been plenty of opportunities by both sides to change the laws. I'm not a trump supporter ... all politicians are joke, but more so career ones are the worst. And that's why a trump presidency would be hoot...

Of course they are federal. And I don't think anyone is arguing that BK laws are not appropriate and help people take a chance on business without exposing all of their personal assets. But filing bankruptcy is not exactly the sign of a savvy businessman. They also lever creditors with debt and that cost of credit gets passed onto other businesses.

A savvy businessman who has multiple businesses is able to recognize when a certain business is not succeeding and takes advantage of bankruptcy laws to limit losses. The setup of every business involves risk and not every business opportunity will pan out. The savvy businessman on the whole though has more wins then losses and mitigates risk by using the law.

PJ_Soul

Yeah, that should work really well. When Trump declares America bankrupt, everyone can applaud his savvy political decisions.

rgambs

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

lukin2006 said:

Gern Blansten said:

lukin2006 said:

I know there not comparable ... 2 lived their off the public through lies at the trough. 2 of the most vile people on earth

Trump was in the trough more than Clinton. Bankruptcy is the rich man's welfare....he had more than his fair share.

Aren't bankruptcy laws federal? If so there been plenty of opportunities by both sides to change the laws. I'm not a trump supporter ... all politicians are joke, but more so career ones are the worst. And that's why a trump presidency would be hoot...

Of course they are federal. And I don't think anyone is arguing that BK laws are not appropriate and help people take a chance on business without exposing all of their personal assets. But filing bankruptcy is not exactly the sign of a savvy businessman. They also lever creditors with debt and that cost of credit gets passed onto other businesses.

A savvy businessman who has multiple business is able to recognize when a certain business is not succeeding and takes advantage of bankruptcy laws to limit losses. The setup of every business involves risk and not every business opportunity will pan out. The savvy businessman on the whole though has more wins then losses and mitigates risk by using the law.

There are many things that a savvy business person will do that are immoral in their own right, and would be disastrous, disgusting, and more than immoral if they were done by a government executive.

BS44325

PJ_Soul said:

Yeah, that should work really well. When Trump declares America bankrupt, everyone can applaud his savvy political decisions.

America is bankrupt. Wake up.

eddiec

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Yeah, that should work really well. When Trump declares America bankrupt, everyone can applaud his savvy political decisions.

America is bankrupt. Wake up.

Bankrupt like Greece?

rgambs

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Yeah, that should work really well. When Trump declares America bankrupt, everyone can applaud his savvy political decisions.

America is bankrupt. Wake up.

Bankrupt and in debt are not the same, you know that. Part of the joke was that bankruptcy is not really relevant to geopolitical economics.

BS44325

eddiec said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Yeah, that should work really well. When Trump declares America bankrupt, everyone can applaud his savvy political decisions.

America is bankrupt. Wake up.

Bankrupt like Greece?

Puerto Rico. Pay attention people.

mrussel1

PJ_Soul said:

lukin2006 said:

mrussel1 said:

lukin2006 said:

Gern Blansten said:

lukin2006 said:

I know there not comparable ... 2 lived their off the public through lies at the trough. 2 of the most vile people on earth

Trump was in the trough more than Clinton. Bankruptcy is the rich man's welfare....he had more than his fair share.

Aren't bankruptcy laws federal? If so there been plenty of opportunities by both sides to change the laws. I'm not a trump supporter ... all politicians are joke, but more so career ones are the worst. And that's why a trump presidency would be hoot...

Of course they are federal. And I don't think anyone is arguing that BK laws are not appropriate and help people take a chance on business without exposing all of their personal assets. But filing bankruptcy is not exactly the sign of a savvy businessman. They also lever creditors with debt and that cost of credit gets passed onto other businesses.

I agree with you there ... so there all at the trough of some sort. Still don't think trump wants to be president ... or he wouldnt say crazy shit ...

They're = they are
Their = the third person plural possessive adjective, used to describe something as belong to them
There =
1. Adverb that means the opposite of "here"

He’s over there.

Stop right there.

Do you want to sit here or there?

2. Pronoun that introduces a noun or clause.

There is something strange going on.

Is there a phone?

3. Adjective that emphasizes which person.

That guy there seems to be in trouble.

Those there look good.

4. Noun that means "that place."

From there, we drove to Boston.

I’m not going in there

Seriously not trying to be a grammar Nazi or an asshole, but you rarely use any of these correctly, so I just thought you might be able to benefit from this.

Listen PJ_Soul. Their is know weigh that the usage of these words makes any difference in you're ability two understand me. In fact, there probably even more clear then be four.

Christ...

mrussel1

rgambs said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

lukin2006 said:

Gern Blansten said:

lukin2006 said:

I know there not comparable ... 2 lived their off the public through lies at the trough. 2 of the most vile people on earth

Trump was in the trough more than Clinton. Bankruptcy is the rich man's welfare....he had more than his fair share.

Aren't bankruptcy laws federal? If so there been plenty of opportunities by both sides to change the laws. I'm not a trump supporter ... all politicians are joke, but more so career ones are the worst. And that's why a trump presidency would be hoot...

Of course they are federal. And I don't think anyone is arguing that BK laws are not appropriate and help people take a chance on business without exposing all of their personal assets. But filing bankruptcy is not exactly the sign of a savvy businessman. They also lever creditors with debt and that cost of credit gets passed onto other businesses.

A savvy businessman who has multiple business is able to recognize when a certain business is not succeeding and takes advantage of bankruptcy laws to limit losses. The setup of every business involves risk and not every business opportunity will pan out. The savvy businessman on the whole though has more wins then losses and mitigates risk by using the law.

There are many things that a savvy business person will do that are immoral in their own right, and would be disastrous, disgusting, and more than immoral if they were done by a government executive.

This is precisely right. Running a business and running a government are two totally separate thing. A business exists to maximize the value of their shareholders or stakeholders. A government exists to protect its people (physically and fiscally). Now fair people can argue about the role of that gov't (laissez-faire up to communism), but a gov't balance sheet is not a P&L statement.