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  • PJ_Soul said:

    hedonist said:

    When I was a kid, we'd have dinner from KFC on occasion (as we did with McDonald's, when you could get a cheeseburger for a dime).

    Haven't eaten food from there for ages, but man, the nostalgia associated with that time? Priceless.

    Yup.

    On the way out to the cabin as a kid, my family would stop at the KFC on occasion and get the bucket of chicken, fries and gravy, and coke slaw.

    Loved it.

    Don't eat there anymore. Haven't for a long time.
    KFC used to have actual family restaurants in the 80s. Not fast food. With actual servers and booths and carpet and real dishes and whatnot. We used to go there all the time because it was close, cheap, and meant for families with little kids. They had these kiddie dinner boxes that were shaped like old jallopies with a chicken driving. Your meal with inside it, lol. The KFC version of White Spot's Pirate Pack (I think only Western Canadians will know what that is!).
    Good times!
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  • There are so many terrible and troubling things about HRC and none of it matters because HER OPPONENT IS DONALD TRUMP.

    There's no anti-Hillary argument one can make that overcomes that.

    True. Undeniably true.

    What's hilarious is the fact that if the Republican Party had settled on... oh, say a baboon as its representative... they likely could have secured a win.

    Snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Pathetic.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,710

    There are so many terrible and troubling things about HRC and none of it matters because HER OPPONENT IS DONALD TRUMP.

    There's no anti-Hillary argument one can make that overcomes that.

    Sane verses insane. Simple as that.

    I never imagined I would want HRC to be president. Still don't think I will vote for her but Trump scares the living poop out of me.
    Sorry, man, if you didn't live in a swing state (though, you could argue PA isn't a swing state) I wouldn't give you shit for that vote. But I gotta give you shit for that vote.
    Was just going to say the same thing. An anti establishment vote in PA this election is way too dangerous
  • Friday13Friday13 Posts: 120
    edited August 2016
    The wife of the Republican presidential nominee published a statement on Twitter on Thursday, disputing that she violated immigration laws. "I have at all times been in full compliance with the immigration laws of this country. Period. Any allegation to the contrary is simply untrue," she wrote. Trump has said she came to the U.S. in 1996 on a visa, got her green card in 2001, and became a

    So Melania may have come here on a temporary visa but worked as a model...which would make her....an illegal immigrant?

    Hmm

    A "Model"

    image
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,960
    PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:
    Very. It's actually shocking to me. How did it come to this? .... looks like the first stage of an Idiocracy to me.
    how is anybody possibly surprised by this?

    not all trump supporters are racists, but all racists are supporting trump this cycle. this behavior should not shock anybody.
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,960
    Friday13 said:

    The wife of the Republican presidential nominee published a statement on Twitter on Thursday, disputing that she violated immigration laws. "I have at all times been in full compliance with the immigration laws of this country. Period. Any allegation to the contrary is simply untrue," she wrote. Trump has said she came to the U.S. in 1996 on a visa, got her green card in 2001, and became a

    So Melania may have come here on a temporary visa but worked as a model...which would make her....an illegal immigrant?

    Hmm

    A "Model"

    image
    says the woman who stole parts of a speech and passed it off as her own. i don't believe her for one second.
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,960
    soooo....

    about this "top secret video".

    trump doubled down on seeing it. his campaign admits that it does not exist.

    so which is it? should we believe the candidate or the campaign?
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,960
    the best part about all of this is running for president is the worst thing trump ever did. all of his brands are now hurting financially. he has been exposed as a fraud and an unethical business man. the only thing outside of himself that he has ever cared about is his business. his business is in the tank.

    sometimes it is best for a candidate to shut the fuck up and go away. which is what will happen if trump sees this through to election day when the american people firmly reject him. it will be the ultimate public humiliation in a string of them.
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Are his businesses in the tank? I have no idea. I would assume his run for president has created a whole new market of mouth breathers who will purchase his crap long after the election is over.

    As dumb as he's looked, I'm not sure his run has been bad for business.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    Early 20 percent chance of winning on Nate Silvers site! :lol:
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,291

    Are his businesses in the tank? I have no idea. I would assume his run for president has created a whole new market of mouth breathers who will purchase his crap long after the election is over.

    As dumb as he's looked, I'm not sure his run has been bad for business.

    That's an interesting question. Does having 40% agree with you while 60% hates you create a better brand position for him? It honestly might. Although the 40% are not people who can play at Trump courses, stay at Trump towers, etc. Maybe he is going down market...
  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    "Of corse the election is not rigged. What does that even mean?"

    Hahahahahahaba
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  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    And then trump backs off his video theory.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Indianapolis Posts: 19,318

    "Of corse the election is not rigged. What does that even mean?"

    Hahahahahahaba

    Yeah that was hilarious. Obama said something to the effect of "if he's up 15 in the polls on election day and loses he might have something...as of now that isn't the case"

    Obama is going to shred Trump as often as possible as the election approaches. He's not forgiving all that birther bullshit
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,096
    I'm really surprised that no one has mentioned this, but has Trump addressed the fact that he already has a job? People who have to work at McDonald's AND at Wal-Mart find it exhausting - what about Trump's current managerial obligations in addition to POTUS? Which is the 'part-time' job?
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Indianapolis Posts: 19,318
    Fareed Zakaria has a great takedown of Trump here...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-unbearable-stench-of-trumps-bs/2016/08/04/aa5d2798-5a6e-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html
    A few days ago, I was asked on CNN to make sense of one more case in which Donald Trump had said something demonstrably false and then explained it away with a caustic tweet and an indignant interview. I replied that there was a pattern here and a term for a person who did this kind of thing: a “bullshit artist.” I got cheers and boos for the comment from partisans on both sides, but I was not using that label casually. Trump is many things, some of them dark and dangerous, but at his core, he is a B.S. artist.

    Harry Frankfurt, an eminent moral philosopher and former professor at Princeton, wrote a brilliant essay in 1986 called “On Bullshit.” (Frankfurt himself wrote about Trump in this vein, as have Jeet Heer and Eldar Sarajlic.) In the essay, Frankfurt distinguishes crucially between lies and B.S.: “Telling a lie is an act with a sharp focus. It is designed to insert a particular falsehood at a specific point. . . . In order to invent a lie at all, [the teller of a lie] must think he knows what is true.”

    But someone engaging in B.S., Frankfurt says, “is neither on the side of the true nor on the side of the false. His eye is not on the facts at all . . . except insofar as they may be pertinent to his interest in getting away with what he says.” Frankfurt writes that the B.S.-er’s “focus is panoramic rather than particular” and that he has “more spacious opportunities for improvisation, color, and imaginative play. This is less a matter of craft than of art. Hence the familiar notion of the ‘bullshit artist.’ ”

    This has been Trump’s mode all his life. He boasts — and boasts and boasts — about his business, his buildings, his books, his wives. Much of it is a concoction of hyperbole and falsehoods. And when he’s found out, he’s like that guy we have all met at a bar who makes wild claims but when confronted with the truth, quickly responds, “I knew that!”

    Take, for instance, the most extraordinary example, his non-relationship with Vladimir Putin. In May 2014, addressing the National Press Club, Trump said, “I was in Russia, I was in Moscow recently and I spoke, indirectly and directly, with President Putin, who could not have been nicer.” In November 2015, at a Fox Business debate, he said of Putin, “I got to know him very well because we were both on ‘60 Minutes.’ ”

    Did Trump really believe that you could say something like that on live TV and no one would check? Did he think that no one would notice that the “60 Minutes” show consisted of two separate prerecorded interviews, with Putin in Moscow and Trump in New York? (By that logic, I have gotten to know Franklin Roosevelt very well because I have run some clips of him on my television show.)

    In fact, Trump was bullshitting. He sees himself as important, a global celebrity, the kind of man who should or could have met Putin. Why does it matter that they did not actually meet?

    Or look at the issue that fueled his political rise, birtherism. Trump said in 2011 that he had sent investigators to Hawaii and that “they cannot believe what they’re finding.” For weeks, he continued to imply that there were huge findings to be released. He hinted to George Stephanopoulos, “We’re going to see what happens.” That was five years ago, in April 2011. Nothing happened.

    In fact, it appears highly unlikely that Trump ever sent any investigators to Hawaii. In 2011, Salon asked Trump attorney Michael Cohen for details about the investigators. Cohen said that it was all very secret, naturally.
    Trump has said the same about his plan to defeat the Islamic State, which he can’t reveal. He has boasted that he has a strategy to win solidly Democratic states this fall, but he won’t reveal which ones. (Even by Trump’s standards, this one is a head-scratcher. Won’t we notice when he campaigns in these places? Or will it be so secret that even the voters won’t know?) Of course, these are not secret strategies. It’s just B.S.

    Harry Frankfurt concludes that liars and truth-tellers are both acutely aware of facts and truths. They are just choosing to play on opposite sides of the same game to serve their own ends. The B.S. artist, however, has lost all connection with reality. He pays no attention to the truth. “By virtue of this,” Frankfurt writes, “bullshit is a greater enemy of truth than lies are.”

    We see the consequences. As the crazy talk continues, standard rules of fact, truth and reality have disappeared in this campaign. Donald Trump has piled such vast quantities of his trademark product into the political arena that the stench is now overwhelming and unbearable.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    "Of corse the election is not rigged. What does that even mean?"

    Hahahahahahaba

    Yeah that was hilarious. Obama said something to the effect of "if he's up 15 in the polls on election day and loses he might have something...as of now that isn't the case"

    Obama is going to shred Trump as often as possible as the election approaches. He's not forgiving all that birther bullshit
    what obaba is doing is called "damage control" he and the rest of the democrats are scrambling to cover their inadequacies amid all the proof of false statements made by them, but then again "what does it matter ?"

    Godfather.

  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Indianapolis Posts: 19,318

    "Of corse the election is not rigged. What does that even mean?"

    Hahahahahahaba

    Yeah that was hilarious. Obama said something to the effect of "if he's up 15 in the polls on election day and loses he might have something...as of now that isn't the case"

    Obama is going to shred Trump as often as possible as the election approaches. He's not forgiving all that birther bullshit
    what obaba is doing is called "damage control" he and the rest of the democrats are scrambling to cover their inadequacies amid all the proof of false statements made by them, but then again "what does it matter ?"

    Godfather.

    I'm sorry but you are absolutely clueless. Keep watching Faux.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123

    "Of corse the election is not rigged. What does that even mean?"

    Hahahahahahaba

    Yeah that was hilarious. Obama said something to the effect of "if he's up 15 in the polls on election day and loses he might have something...as of now that isn't the case"

    Obama is going to shred Trump as often as possible as the election approaches. He's not forgiving all that birther bullshit
    what obaba is doing is called "damage control" he and the rest of the democrats are scrambling to cover their inadequacies amid all the proof of false statements made by them, but then again "what does it matter ?"

    Godfather.

    Damage control? What damage is he controlling? What is he trying to fix? What he's doing is showing how completely stupid trump is.
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    forget trump and look at your party with open eyes.....man you guys are just following blind.

    Godfather.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,710

    forget trump and look at your party with open eyes.....man you guys are just following blind.

    Godfather.

    Yeah I mean those jobs numbers today were terrible
  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123

    forget trump and look at your party with open eyes.....man you guys are just following blind.

    Godfather.

    Really? That's your response? Classic.
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Indianapolis Posts: 19,318

    forget trump and look at your party with open eyes.....man you guys are just following blind.

    Godfather.

    Yeah I mean those jobs numbers today were terrible
    Job numbers are fake. Unemployment number....fake
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Hillary Clinton was the only First Lady to be subpoenaed, for her involvement with the Whitewater controversy in 1996, and to repeatedly be deposed as part of ongoing criminal and civil investigations, including Travelgate and Filegate. Bill and Hillary were the only First Couple to be fingerprinted by the FBI.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Indianapolis Posts: 19,318
    From your link

    What Comey did tell Congress was that investigators "have no basis to conclude she lied to the FBI."

    She's a politician. The GOP is trying to destroy her so they are dancing all over themselves to call her a liar.

    Go ahead and keep pushing that. She's still destroying Trump in November.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 16,912

    forget trump and look at your party with open eyes.....man you guys are just following blind.

    Godfather.

    Yeah I mean those jobs numbers today were terrible
    People can take a circular statistic and jam it into a square hole. But BUT BUT BUT it's about participation rate! People are dumb.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Indianapolis Posts: 19,318
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-russia-idUSKCN10G1NT?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social
    A former top CIA official attacked Donald Trump on Friday as a danger to national security, saying President Vladimir Putin had made the Republican presidential candidate an "unwitting agent" of Russia.

    Putin had flattered Trump into supporting positions favorable to Russia, Michael Morell, a longtime CIA officer and former deputy director of the agency, said in an opinion piece in The New York Times.

    "In the intelligence business, we would say that Mr. Putin had recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation," Morell said, in an article in which he endorsed Trump's rival in the Nov. 8 election, Democrat Hillary Clinton.

    Morell did not provide evidence for his assertion, but he said Putin had used skills from his past as an intelligence officer to identify and exploit vulnerabilities in an individual.

    "That is exactly what he did early in the primaries. Mr. Putin played upon Mr. Trump’s vulnerabilities by complimenting him. He responded just as Mr. Putin had calculated," Morell wrote.

    Trump's campaign dismissed Morell's criticism, linking the ex-CIA officer to the Obama administration's public response after the September 2012 attacks in Benghazi, Libya.

    "Count how many reporters will tweet today that Michael Morell lied for #CrookedHillary to cover up Benghazi," Trump's campaign said in a Twitter message.

    The incident, in which the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans were killed, occurred while Clinton was secretary of state, and Republicans have long criticized her handling of the attack and its aftermath.

    Critics say administration officials tried to play down the role of Islamist militants in the attacks. Morell approved talking points after the incident. U.S. officials have said any reference to militants taking part was initially dropped for classification reasons.

    Morell is currently affiliated with Beacon Global Strategies, a consulting firm with ties to senior Democrats with national security expertise, including former defense secretary and CIA director Leon Panetta and former top Clinton aide Philippe Reines.

    Trump's vice presidential running mate, Indiana Governor Mike Pence, on Friday dismissed Morell's comments, saying that "standing up to Russian aggression is going to be really different under a Trump-Pence administration."

    "These people are playing politics," Pence said of Morell in an interview on NBC's "Today" program.

    Morell's article, in which he also said Trump had undermined U.S. security with his campaign proposal to combat terrorism by imposing a temporary ban on Muslims entering the country, added to questions raised by some national security experts about the New York businessman's qualifications to be president.

    On Thursday, a bipartisan group of experts criticized Trump's lukewarm support for the NATO alliance, comments about Russia's annexation of Crimea and other matters as "disgraceful."

    Trump has also drawn criticism for his praise for Putin as a strong leader, particularly after Moscow came under suspicion from U.S. officials as being behind recent hacking of Democratic Party groups. Moscow has denied the allegations.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,857
    edited August 2016

    PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:
    Very. It's actually shocking to me. How did it come to this? .... looks like the first stage of an Idiocracy to me.
    how is anybody possibly surprised by this?

    not all trump supporters are racists, but all racists are supporting trump this cycle. this behavior should not shock anybody.
    It totally shocks me. Maybe it just doesn't shock Americans? I think a lot of people elsewhere are pretty blown away by it all. I know everyone I've talked to in real life are flabbergasted about this as well as all the racism in the US in general. And about the gun problem.
    But your comment interests me. You are not the first American to express disdain when someone expresses shock about the current state of affairs in the US. Why do people do that? Is it some kind of defense mechanism? Or an attempt to downplay? I don't get it. Because it seems pretty reasonable for someone to find these things surprising.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,857

    forget trump and look at your party with open eyes.....man you guys are just following blind.

    Godfather.

    You should talk. SMH.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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