No...this is his best chance. If Trump wins (which is probably a 50/50 shot at this point), he'll probably quit after not having the interest/energy in about six months. Then Pence is President. The only way an "I hate the icky gays" guy can get the white house is by coming in as VP.
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No...this is his best chance. If Trump wins (which is probably a 50/50 shot at this point), he'll probably quit after not having the interest/energy in about six months. Then Pence is President. The only way an "I hate the icky gays" guy can get the white house is by coming in as VP.
this fucker wants roe v wade repealed. anyone that is a moderate conservative is not moving towards Trump now, they are moving away. I will go on record saying that I predicted last year there was no way in hell that Trump gets the nom, and that I was wrong about that. Still can't believe it. But I can't in my wildest dreams believe that the majority of the US is dumb enough to elect this fucktard.
No...this is his best chance. If Trump wins (which is probably a 50/50 shot at this point), he'll probably quit after not having the interest/energy in about six months. Then Pence is President. The only way an "I hate the icky gays" guy can get the white house is by coming in as VP.
this fucker wants roe v wade repealed. anyone that is a moderate conservative is not moving towards Trump now, they are moving away. I will go on record saying that I predicted last year there was no way in hell that Trump gets the nom, and that I was wrong about that. Still can't believe it. But I can't in my wildest dreams believe that the majority of the US is dumb enough to elect this fucktard.
The fucked up part is that he doesn't need the majority of the US, he just needs the majority of Florida and PA. I still can't see it. That said, my vote here in Philly will very much count.
I don't feel like choosing a bigotted, bible thumping tea partier was a very good decision for Trump in the long run. Many of his supporters were supporting him because he's a departure from the fucked up Republican wacko colony. Pence is exactly the kind of nut job creep a lot of Republicans are trying to get away from, no? For me, Trump just got much worse. I didn't think that was possible, lol.
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I don't feel like choosing a bigotted, bible thumping tea partier was a very good decision for Trump in the long run. Many of his supporters were supporting him because he's a departure from the fucked up Republican wacko colony. Pence is exactly the kind of nut job creep a lot of Republicans are trying to get away from, no? For me, Trump just got much worse. I didn't think that was possible, lol.
From all reports it pretty much came down to Pence, Newt or Christie, so yeah, it was going to be an awful decision whichever way it went.
I don't feel like choosing a bigotted, bible thumping tea partier was a very good decision for Trump in the long run. Many of his supporters were supporting him because he's a departure from the fucked up Republican wacko colony. Pence is exactly the kind of nut job creep a lot of Republicans are trying to get away from, no? For me, Trump just got much worse. I didn't think that was possible, lol.
From all reports it pretty much came down to Pence, Newt or Christie, so yeah, it was going to be an awful decision whichever way it went.
I think Newt or Christie would have been better (i mean, better from the perspective of making Trump less horrific. Not better from the perspective of Trump failing miserably. From that angle this seems like a great choice, lol). I find the kind of "Christian" extremism that Pence brings to the table more terrifying than any other thing a politician can possibly bring to the table. For me, Trump basically just made himself as terrifying as he possibly could. Pence is even worse that Cruz, and Cruz scared the shit out of me.
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Here is Pence signing the hate bill. Seriously....look at the fucking douchebag.
Good god. I don't think it is possible to be surrounded by a more out of touch group of people.
Yeah that whole picture looks like some sort of doucheapolooza.
it shouldn't even be legal for an American Governor to bring that much religion into his politics. This is so fucked up.
Agreed. I hear the fear of Muslim immigrants wanting Sharia law enacted, and I'm of course opposed to that, but then I see this, and wonder what the difference is. Any time religious people can wield a pen and enact laws I'm nervous, since I think religion and reason are antithetical.
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Here is Pence signing the hate bill. Seriously....look at the fucking douchebag.
Good god. I don't think it is possible to be surrounded by a more out of touch group of people.
Yeah that whole picture looks like some sort of doucheapolooza.
it shouldn't even be legal for an American Governor to bring that much religion into his politics. This is so fucked up.
Agreed. I hear the fear of Muslim immigrants wanting Sharia law enacted, and I'm of course opposed to that, but then I see this, and wonder what the difference is. Any time religious people can wield a pen and enact laws I'm nervous, since I think religion and reason are antithetical.
Absolutely, and you're right, there is no difference between this and Sharia law. Of course, never ever underestimate the hypocrisy of a very religious person. It knows no bounds.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Here is Pence signing the hate bill. Seriously....look at the fucking douchebag.
Good god. I don't think it is possible to be surrounded by a more out of touch group of people.
Yeah that whole picture looks like some sort of doucheapolooza.
it shouldn't even be legal for an American Governor to bring that much religion into his politics. This is so fucked up.
Agreed. I hear the fear of Muslim immigrants wanting Sharia law enacted, and I'm of course opposed to that, but then I see this, and wonder what the difference is. Any time religious people can wield a pen and enact laws I'm nervous, since I think religion and reason are antithetical.
Absolutely, and you're right, there is no difference between this and Sharia law. Of course, never ever underestimate the hypocrisy of a very religious person. It knows no bounds.
my brother tried to convince me that christianity is under attack that just because he thinks homosexuality is wrong that he shouldn't be called a bigot. he think HE is the victim here.
Here is Pence signing the hate bill. Seriously....look at the fucking douchebag.
Good god. I don't think it is possible to be surrounded by a more out of touch group of people.
Yeah that whole picture looks like some sort of doucheapolooza.
it shouldn't even be legal for an American Governor to bring that much religion into his politics. This is so fucked up.
Agreed. I hear the fear of Muslim immigrants wanting Sharia law enacted, and I'm of course opposed to that, but then I see this, and wonder what the difference is. Any time religious people can wield a pen and enact laws I'm nervous, since I think religion and reason are antithetical.
Absolutely, and you're right, there is no difference between this and Sharia law. Of course, never ever underestimate the hypocrisy of a very religious person. It knows no bounds.
I made the argument a few weeks ago that Sharia law already exists in this country, but in the form of Halakha for the Jews in places like New York. It was not a well received argument by a few people.
I think he has a chance. Hillary is not a good candidate. Twice she should have cake-walked to the nomination, but got beat once and had a socialist give her a run for the money this year, which will cost her votes.
Of course he has a chance. A decent one at that. I just can't see it happening given the reasons I mentioned above, among many others.
Considering a good portion of the population is trying to catch Pokemon with their phones, anything is possible.
Hahahaha
and two of them in California fucking fell off a cliff doing it. unbelievable. probably drumpf supporters!
Here is Pence signing the hate bill. Seriously....look at the fucking douchebag.
Good god. I don't think it is possible to be surrounded by a more out of touch group of people.
Yeah that whole picture looks like some sort of doucheapolooza.
it shouldn't even be legal for an American Governor to bring that much religion into his politics. This is so fucked up.
Agreed. I hear the fear of Muslim immigrants wanting Sharia law enacted, and I'm of course opposed to that, but then I see this, and wonder what the difference is. Any time religious people can wield a pen and enact laws I'm nervous, since I think religion and reason are antithetical.
Absolutely, and you're right, there is no difference between this and Sharia law. Of course, never ever underestimate the hypocrisy of a very religious person. It knows no bounds.
I made the argument a few weeks ago that Sharia law already exists in this country, but in the form of Halakha for the Jews in places like New York. It was not a well received argument by a few people.
That is because no one is currently terrified of Jews, lol.... If history is any indication though, the hatred towards Jews will rise again, some day, just as soon as all the Muslims are irradicated and there is opportunity to redirect the hate again.
But anyway, I do not support any religious practices/beliefs that oppress girls/women. It makes me sick to my stomach. Jews, Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, whatever. All of these religious beliefs/practices/traditions that serve to keep women subservient or attempt to dictate to them what they have to do with their bodies or their lives, or that give them fewer rights in their community, disgust me 100%. Everything that can be done to discourage or prevent these practices/beliefs/traditions (and brainwashing of course) should be done.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Here is Pence signing the hate bill. Seriously....look at the fucking douchebag.
Good god. I don't think it is possible to be surrounded by a more out of touch group of people.
Yeah that whole picture looks like some sort of doucheapolooza.
it shouldn't even be legal for an American Governor to bring that much religion into his politics. This is so fucked up.
Agreed. I hear the fear of Muslim immigrants wanting Sharia law enacted, and I'm of course opposed to that, but then I see this, and wonder what the difference is. Any time religious people can wield a pen and enact laws I'm nervous, since I think religion and reason are antithetical.
Absolutely, and you're right, there is no difference between this and Sharia law. Of course, never ever underestimate the hypocrisy of a very religious person. It knows no bounds.
I made the argument a few weeks ago that Sharia law already exists in this country, but in the form of Halakha for the Jews in places like New York. It was not a well received argument by a few people.
It wasn't well received by me but to be clear I don't support the accommodation for Halakha as well. The only difference at the moment is that one system tilts towards violence while the other does not. That being said if it is more equitable to stop the accommodation of both then I would be on board.
Here is Pence signing the hate bill. Seriously....look at the fucking douchebag.
Good god. I don't think it is possible to be surrounded by a more out of touch group of people.
Yeah that whole picture looks like some sort of doucheapolooza.
it shouldn't even be legal for an American Governor to bring that much religion into his politics. This is so fucked up.
Agreed. I hear the fear of Muslim immigrants wanting Sharia law enacted, and I'm of course opposed to that, but then I see this, and wonder what the difference is. Any time religious people can wield a pen and enact laws I'm nervous, since I think religion and reason are antithetical.
Absolutely, and you're right, there is no difference between this and Sharia law. Of course, never ever underestimate the hypocrisy of a very religious person. It knows no bounds.
I made the argument a few weeks ago that Sharia law already exists in this country, but in the form of Halakha for the Jews in places like New York. It was not a well received argument by a few people.
It wasn't well received by me but to be clear I don't support the accommodation for Halakha as well. The only difference at the moment is that one system tilts towards violence while the other does not. That being said if it is more equitable to stop the accommodation of both then I would be on board.
None are sanctioned but the question is about the steps to eradicate, but also the degree to which these 'courts' are radical (in the eyes of the Western world). As I pointed out, many are related to custody, child support, property rights, etc. They certainly would run counter to established case law in our courts, but many choose to adjudicate in the traditional venues. Maybe the definition of 'freedom' includes the choice to allow a person of your religion or religious tradition to judge.
But PJ_Soul brings up the good point that many oppress women and they are not in a strong position to escape, without destroying their support structure, homes, etc.
Also, someone should probably go check on Christie
He's probably downing phiilicheese stake subs as we speak this was his last shot at any kind of prevelancy there is no way he get another term as governor ...
Also, someone should probably go check on Christie
He's probably downing phiilicheese stake subs as we speak this was his last shot at any kind of prevelancy there is no way he get another term as governor ...
Also, someone should probably go check on Christie
He's probably downing phiilicheese stake subs as we speak this was his last shot at any kind of prevelancy there is no way he get another term as governor ...
He will be our new secretary of education!
Really I had him pegged to do something in food industry he's the perfect spokesperson for how to go around with a stomach for an armrest ...
Here is Pence signing the hate bill. Seriously....look at the fucking douchebag.
Good god. I don't think it is possible to be surrounded by a more out of touch group of people.
Yeah that whole picture looks like some sort of doucheapolooza.
it shouldn't even be legal for an American Governor to bring that much religion into his politics. This is so fucked up.
Agreed. I hear the fear of Muslim immigrants wanting Sharia law enacted, and I'm of course opposed to that, but then I see this, and wonder what the difference is. Any time religious people can wield a pen and enact laws I'm nervous, since I think religion and reason are antithetical.
Absolutely, and you're right, there is no difference between this and Sharia law. Of course, never ever underestimate the hypocrisy of a very religious person. It knows no bounds.
I made the argument a few weeks ago that Sharia law already exists in this country, but in the form of Halakha for the Jews in places like New York. It was not a well received argument by a few people.
It wasn't well received by me but to be clear I don't support the accommodation for Halakha as well. The only difference at the moment is that one system tilts towards violence while the other does not. That being said if it is more equitable to stop the accommodation of both then I would be on board.
I agree that the "tilt" towards violence definitely needs to matter.... that said, I am unaware of any Sharia communities in North America that actually have a tilt towards violence as far as terrorism goes (i assume it does mean a tilt towards violence against women). Do any? Or is that just an assumption?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Here is Pence signing the hate bill. Seriously....look at the fucking douchebag.
Good god. I don't think it is possible to be surrounded by a more out of touch group of people.
Yeah that whole picture looks like some sort of doucheapolooza.
it shouldn't even be legal for an American Governor to bring that much religion into his politics. This is so fucked up.
Agreed. I hear the fear of Muslim immigrants wanting Sharia law enacted, and I'm of course opposed to that, but then I see this, and wonder what the difference is. Any time religious people can wield a pen and enact laws I'm nervous, since I think religion and reason are antithetical.
Absolutely, and you're right, there is no difference between this and Sharia law. Of course, never ever underestimate the hypocrisy of a very religious person. It knows no bounds.
I made the argument a few weeks ago that Sharia law already exists in this country, but in the form of Halakha for the Jews in places like New York. It was not a well received argument by a few people.
It wasn't well received by me but to be clear I don't support the accommodation for Halakha as well. The only difference at the moment is that one system tilts towards violence while the other does not. That being said if it is more equitable to stop the accommodation of both then I would be on board.
None are sanctioned but the question is about the steps to eradicate, but also the degree to which these 'courts' are radical (in the eyes of the Western world). As I pointed out, many are related to custody, child support, property rights, etc. They certainly would run counter to established case law in our courts, but many choose to adjudicate in the traditional venues. Maybe the definition of 'freedom' includes the choice to allow a person of your religion or religious tradition to judge.
But PJ_Soul brings up the good point that many oppress women and they are not in a strong position to escape, without destroying their support structure, homes, etc.
And the majority if women in those communities wouldn't even try to escape because most of them are brainwashed from birth into believing that their ways are the ways of God. They will often defend the oppression of women almost as vigorously as the men would. They contribute to the oppression of their own daughters.
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But anyway, I do not support any religious practices/beliefs that oppress girls/women. It makes me sick to my stomach. Jews, Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, whatever. All of these religious beliefs/practices/traditions that serve to keep women subservient or attempt to dictate to them what they have to do with their bodies or their lives, or that give them fewer rights in their community, disgust me 100%. Everything that can be done to discourage or prevent these practices/beliefs/traditions (and brainwashing of course) should be done.
But PJ_Soul brings up the good point that many oppress women and they are not in a strong position to escape, without destroying their support structure, homes, etc.