Should Apple unlock the Cali terrorists IPhone for the Feds ?

JC29856

Internal audit reveals 106 children employed at 11 factories making Apple products in past year

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/jan/25/apple-child-labour-supply?

rr165892

Soooooo,any of you using Samsung voice activation on a web enabled TV or remote?
Report out that they can reverse listen in to your living room.another privacy issue at hand.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/09/technology/security/samsung-smart-tv-privacy/

rgambs

rr165892 said:

Soooooo,any of you using Samsung voice activation on a web enabled TV or remote?
Report out that they can reverse listen in to your living room.another privacy issue at hand.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/09/technology/security/samsung-smart-tv-privacy/

Ahhh the perks of living beyond the reach of modern human technology lol

JC29856

JC29856 said:

What's on that phone? The 16 year terrorist sleeper cell plot to blow up the universe?

A locked phone used by a dead terrorist initially may have seemed like the perfect test case for law enforcement to argue that it needs ways to get around advanced device security.

But authorities may have picked the wrong phone after all. It’s becoming increasingly clear that law enforcement doesn’t really think there’s any important data on San Bernardino killer Syed Rizwan Farook’s iPhone and that it has more precedent-setting value than investigative value.

“I’ll be honest with you, I think that there is a reasonably good chance that there is nothing of any value on the phone,” San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan told NPR reporter Steve Inskeep on Friday.

Consider that it was Farook’s work phone, actually belonging to San Bernardino County, his employer. Farook also had and used two personal phones and a laptop, which he demolished before he and his wife left their home to shoot 14 people dead at an office holiday party.

Between Apple, Verizon, and the National Security Agency, which turned over metadata, the authorities had plenty of phone data, none of which indicated any overseas terror connection.

They even had data from the iPhone in question up until six weeks before the shooting, because of its iCloud backups. And the FBI might have been able to back up the phone again if it hadn’t told the county government to reset its iCloud password.

FBI Director James Comey has acknowledged the possibility that there’s nothing useful on the phone. “Maybe the phone holds the clue to finding more terrorists. Maybe it doesn’t,” he wrote in a letter posted on the blog Lawfare on Sunday.

Apple lawyers don’t believe the FBI really cares about this particular phone at all.

In a motion filed on Thursday, they wrote that the bureau’s director would never talk at such length about an ongoing investigation if he had any suspicion that there might be a co-conspirator to convict.

“This is the only case in counsel’s memory in which an FBI director has blogged in real-time about pending litigation, suggesting that the government does not believe the data on the phone will yield critical evidence about other suspects,” read the motion.

https://theintercept.com/2016/02/26/farooks-iphone-is-probably-useless-even-the-police-say-so/

jeffbr

Sounds like standard procedure for the feds. Using "terror" to overstep its bounds.Glad Apple is still giving them the finger.

Dirtie_Frank

Not to sound sick or twisted, but newer iPhones have a fingerprint reader, why not unlock the phone using the suspects fingerprints? Maybe I have not been following the story, but dig them back up and unlock the phone. Unless they were cremated then it is impossible.

JC29856

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Apple Wins Major Court Victory in its Battle Against FBI in a Case Similar to San Bernardino
Glenn Greenwald, Jenna McLaughlin
Feb. 29 2016, 7:02 p.m.
Photo: Julie Jacobson/AP
Apple today scored a major legal victory in its battle against the FBI when a Magistrate Judge in New York rejected the U.S. Government’s request as part of a drug case to force the company to help it extract data from a locked iPhone. The ruling from U.S. Magistrate James Orenstein was issued as part of the criminal case against Jun Feng, who pleaded guilty in October to drug charges, and is a significant boost to Apple’s well-publicized campaign to resist the FBI’s similar efforts in the case of the San Bernardino killers.

gimmesometruth27

JC29856 said:

ft✉⎕
Apple Wins Major Court Victory in its Battle Against FBI in a Case Similar to San Bernardino
Glenn Greenwald, Jenna McLaughlin
Feb. 29 2016, 7:02 p.m.
Photo: Julie Jacobson/AP
Apple today scored a major legal victory in its battle against the FBI when a Magistrate Judge in New York rejected the U.S. Government’s request as part of a drug case to force the company to help it extract data from a locked iPhone. The ruling from U.S. Magistrate James Orenstein was issued as part of the criminal case against Jun Feng, who pleaded guilty in October to drug charges, and is a significant boost to Apple’s well-publicized campaign to resist the FBI’s similar efforts in the case of the San Bernardino killers.

damn it obama! can't you use your royal authority and decree that apple must comply? get it together your highness.

Wobbie

gimmesometruth27 said:

why don't they waterboard the ceo of apple until he relents?

goooooo big government gooooo!!!

nice, gimme

I'm conflicted but.....oh goddammit, if I can believe Rubio.....what's really being asked is "please disable the phone will melt down feature so we (FBI) can try to crack it".....not "unlock it for us"

rgambs

Wobbie said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

why don't they waterboard the ceo of apple until he relents?

goooooo big government gooooo!!!

nice, gimme

I'm conflicted but.....oh goddammit, if I can believe Rubio.....what's really being asked is "please disable the phone will melt down feature so we (FBI) can try to crack it".....not "unlock it for us"

If you can believe Rubio lol
That's a good one!

gimmesometruth27

Wobbie said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

why don't they waterboard the ceo of apple until he relents?

goooooo big government gooooo!!!

nice, gimme

I'm conflicted but.....oh goddammit, if I can believe Rubio.....what's really being asked is "please disable the phone will melt down feature so we (FBI) can try to crack it".....not "unlock it for us"

first off, i would never believe the man who made the first small penis joke in a presidential campaign in american history about anything. second, for some reason i view both requests as ultimately the same. the end result is the same, only the means are different.

JC29856

Fbi director James Comey at hearing

"Slippery slope arguments are always attractive, but I suppose you could say, 'Well, Apple's engineers have this in their head, what if they're kidnapped and forced to write software?' That's where the judge has to sort this out, between good lawyers on both sides making all reasonable arguments."

JC29856

"Mistake"


WASHINGTON — The head of the F.B.I. acknowledged on Tuesday that his agency lost a chance to capture data from the iPhone used by one of the San Bernardino attackers when it ordered that his password to the online storage service iCloud be reset shortly after the rampage.

“There was a mistake made in the 24 hours after the attack,” James B. Comey Jr., the director of the F.B.I., told lawmakers at a hearing on the government’s attempt to force Apple to help “unlock” the iPhone.

lukin2006

Just saw on the news that blackberry handed over the encryption key that the RCMP can use to essentially unlock any blackberry, this was done 6 years ago...and they've never updated the code since. So much for the argument that blackberries are secure.

lukin2006

The RCMP has had key to ‘unlock’ BlackBerry messages since as early as 2010, report says

http://business.financialpost.com/fp-tech-desk/personal-tech/the-rcmp-has-had-key-to-unlock-blackberry-devices-since-as-early-as-2010-report-says