It is because people with some money are all soulless capitalist pigs. You should ask most of the people on these boards, they will tell you.
Scumsucking lowlife poor bastards are there by their own accord and have had every opportunity all of us have had... they're just useless though and are leeches on society. They should get off their asses and get to work.
Ask most people on this board, they will tell you.
It is because people with some money are all soulless capitalist pigs. You should ask most of the people on these boards, they will tell you.
Scumsucking lowlife poor bastards are there by their own accord and have had every opportunity all of us have had... they're just useless though and are leeches on society. They should get off their asses and get to work.
Ask most people on this board, they will tell you.
Do you really think the majority of people on this board feel this way? I get the flip on what I posted, and I found it funny, but the mention of Mob Attack on health care criticisms & this post make me laugh. The forum would appear to be at least 2/3 people who are in agreement with charging more taxes to the wealthy and with American health care sucking as a general premise.
ND,PJ The Canadian health care system gave life to Justin Beiber.This alone shows how flawed it is.
Good point.
No his mother gave birth to him, the healthcare system wiped the goo off and weighed him before the sent them home. How are those Kardashians that your healthcare system "gave birth to" doing for y'all in Murica?
Anything you lose from being honest You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
You haven't done the same at all. I specifically pointed out that people die specifically because they don't have enough money. You said that wasn't true. I posted links to provide some evidence that it is. You posting a link about some errors that have occured in Canada's system is irrelevant to my point. And of course no system is perfect - I never claimed Canada's is. But it's a hell of a lot better than America's specifically for the point I'm making. I find it so odd that so many Americans support a system where insurance companies profit from witholding care and poor people die because they can't afford the healthcare. It's crazy.
Good luck getting any sort of a fair conversation out about this or not getting mob attacked for your opinion. While the first article he posted is moot because that shit happens in every healthcare system, the second one is something we do have to deal with up here. As you said our system is not perfect and has its flaws. But I agree the American health care system is just sickening in its interest in profits before anything else. When you suggest anything different you get this response like you are telling them you are taking all of their "freedom" away. I guess we just have to be happy we live in a country where we were brought up to think of others along with ourselves, rather than just clawing for 'what is mine'.
If you have no skin in this game why do you feel the need to jump in. I never brought up health care in the first place. When you posted slamming the American health care system it opens yours up as well. The whole point of this thread was to bring up that I worked hard to get where I am at in life and with the state of our government here I do not want to see taxes increased. So if you don't want the flaws in Canada pointed out start your own thread tooting your health care system. If you want to slam our system that you are not a part of you shouldn't whine or complain when it comes back your way. Or is that too capitalistic for you.
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You haven't done the same at all. I specifically pointed out that people die specifically because they don't have enough money. You said that wasn't true. I posted links to provide some evidence that it is. You posting a link about some errors that have occured in Canada's system is irrelevant to my point. And of course no system is perfect - I never claimed Canada's is. But it's a hell of a lot better than America's specifically for the point I'm making. I find it so odd that so many Americans support a system where insurance companies profit from witholding care and poor people die because they can't afford the healthcare. It's crazy.
Good luck getting any sort of a fair conversation out about this or not getting mob attacked for your opinion. While the first article he posted is moot because that shit happens in every healthcare system, the second one is something we do have to deal with up here. As you said our system is not perfect and has its flaws. But I agree the American health care system is just sickening in its interest in profits before anything else. When you suggest anything different you get this response like you are telling them you are taking all of their "freedom" away. I guess we just have to be happy we live in a country where we were brought up to think of others along with ourselves, rather than just clawing for 'what is mine'.
If you have no skin in this game why do you feel the need to jump in. I never brought up health care in the first place. When you posted slamming the American health care system it opens yours up as well. The whole point of this thread was to bring up that I worked hard to get where I am at in life and with the state of our government here I do not want to see taxes increased. So if you don't want the flaws in Canada pointed out start your own thread tooting your health care system. If you want to slam our system that you are not a part of you shouldn't whine or complain when it comes back your way. Or is that too capitalistic for you.
Just to clear and accurate, rr brought up our healthcare system. We didn't drag this into the discussion he did. His comments were addressed, however just because you don't like the answers doesn't mean we don't know what we are talking about. Also who says I have no skin in this game? Are you implying that I need to be told when I have a vested interest in a conversation and when I don't? Thank you sooooooooooooo much for that, I have no idea what I would do without some good ole boy telling me what to think and when. GGF
Anything you lose from being honest You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
You haven't done the same at all. I specifically pointed out that people die specifically because they don't have enough money. You said that wasn't true. I posted links to provide some evidence that it is. You posting a link about some errors that have occured in Canada's system is irrelevant to my point. And of course no system is perfect - I never claimed Canada's is. But it's a hell of a lot better than America's specifically for the point I'm making. I find it so odd that so many Americans support a system where insurance companies profit from witholding care and poor people die because they can't afford the healthcare. It's crazy.
Good luck getting any sort of a fair conversation out about this or not getting mob attacked for your opinion. While the first article he posted is moot because that shit happens in every healthcare system, the second one is something we do have to deal with up here. As you said our system is not perfect and has its flaws. But I agree the American health care system is just sickening in its interest in profits before anything else. When you suggest anything different you get this response like you are telling them you are taking all of their "freedom" away. I guess we just have to be happy we live in a country where we were brought up to think of others along with ourselves, rather than just clawing for 'what is mine'.
If you have no skin in this game why do you feel the need to jump in. I never brought up health care in the first place. When you posted slamming the American health care system it opens yours up as well. The whole point of this thread was to bring up that I worked hard to get where I am at in life and with the state of our government here I do not want to see taxes increased. So if you don't want the flaws in Canada pointed out start your own thread tooting your health care system. If you want to slam our system that you are not a part of you shouldn't whine or complain when it comes back your way. Or is that too capitalistic for you.
Just to clear and accurate, rr brought up our healthcare system. We didn't drag this into the discussion he did. His comments were addressed, however just because you don't like the answers doesn't mean we don't know what we are talking about. Also who says I have no skin in this game? Are you implying that I need to be told when I have a vested interest in a conversation and when I don't? Thank you sooooooooooooo much for that, I have no idea what I would do without some good ole boy telling me what to think and when. GGF
We=the Canadian bopsy twins?
I kinda dig the 2 of you teaming up.you guys can get some of those cool red and white Olympic outfits with the leaf on it,Spritz on a little maple syrup and patrol the interwebs.Protecting the honor of all things Canadian.
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Indeed they are 30.No arguments here. I personally have no problem paying my share.In fact I pay way more than my fair share.Both on the personal side and on the corporate side. I give a whole hell of a lot and take very little.Same goes with my property taxes and services at a local level. I feel I have the right to want my $$ paid in not to be wasted and squandered.Fiscal responsibility is a must.
I will ask you this.Why does some of my family who lives in Canada come to the states for medical care? If the system is so good why do they need to do that? Same goes with people I know in England.Need medical care for a sick kid,I hope you like to wait unless someone is in trauma?
Because they can AFFORD to pay for faster service if they want it (they don't NEED it). Holy, your comment really frustrates me. The medical system in Canada is just fine. Room for improvement in terms of wait lists of course, but no system doesn't have room for improvement. There are waits for some things, not for others, but never for life saving things, or even potential serious concerns (i.e. if a doctor thinks your symptoms could possibly be related to something serious, you don't wait at all for scans or tests or appointments), and no one ever goes broke because they get sick, and no one dies because tbey can't afford a surgery.
I would MUCH prefer waiting for a hip replacement over people dying or going bankrupt just because they can't afford to get cancer or a transplant. The US system is fine and dandy for people with money... and I consider the US system a massive human rights violation. Disgusting. I can't believe anyone could possibly support a system where profit is made from not treating people. I don't even understand why it's legal.
Pj,a little biased are we?
No, just going off of facts and combining them with my opinion that healthcare is a human right that shouldn't be determined by how much money a person has or by greedy insurance companies who profit from witholding proper care.
Now if the dude was a barefoot,porn watching,tree huggin,pot smoking lazy slacker with no job.Then I'd be on him about abusing my tax dollars.lol
And he'd be like "Dude, you're just a cog in the corporate machine of karmic destruction, man"
As long as people have paid to see him play,he most certainly is as well.
He plays barefoot, that exempts him from all machinations of corporate overlords. Get with it dude, you are in the age of Aquarius and you should act accordingly bro.
You haven't done the same at all. I specifically pointed out that people die specifically because they don't have enough money. You said that wasn't true. I posted links to provide some evidence that it is. You posting a link about some errors that have occured in Canada's system is irrelevant to my point. And of course no system is perfect - I never claimed Canada's is. But it's a hell of a lot better than America's specifically for the point I'm making. I find it so odd that so many Americans support a system where insurance companies profit from witholding care and poor people die because they can't afford the healthcare. It's crazy.
Good luck getting any sort of a fair conversation out about this or not getting mob attacked for your opinion. While the first article he posted is moot because that shit happens in every healthcare system, the second one is something we do have to deal with up here. As you said our system is not perfect and has its flaws. But I agree the American health care system is just sickening in its interest in profits before anything else. When you suggest anything different you get this response like you are telling them you are taking all of their "freedom" away. I guess we just have to be happy we live in a country where we were brought up to think of others along with ourselves, rather than just clawing for 'what is mine'.
If you have no skin in this game why do you feel the need to jump in. I never brought up health care in the first place. When you posted slamming the American health care system it opens yours up as well. The whole point of this thread was to bring up that I worked hard to get where I am at in life and with the state of our government here I do not want to see taxes increased. So if you don't want the flaws in Canada pointed out start your own thread tooting your health care system. If you want to slam our system that you are not a part of you shouldn't whine or complain when it comes back your way. Or is that too capitalistic for you.
Just to clear and accurate, rr brought up our healthcare system. We didn't drag this into the discussion he did. His comments were addressed, however just because you don't like the answers doesn't mean we don't know what we are talking about. Also who says I have no skin in this game? Are you implying that I need to be told when I have a vested interest in a conversation and when I don't? Thank you sooooooooooooo much for that, I have no idea what I would do without some good ole boy telling me what to think and when. GGF
We=the Canadian bopsy twins?
I kinda dig the 2 of you teaming up.you guys can get some of those cool red and white Olympic outfits with the leaf on it,Spritz on a little maple syrup and patrol the interwebs.Protecting the honor of all things Canadian.
Way to stay on topic and mature. Also it's called royal vernacular, look it up.
I like how you feel you can diss on something anything to do with Canada but the minute that gets turned around, y'all get the vapours. Enjoy that double standard, it looks good on you.
Anything you lose from being honest You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
You haven't done the same at all. I specifically pointed out that people die specifically because they don't have enough money. You said that wasn't true. I posted links to provide some evidence that it is. You posting a link about some errors that have occured in Canada's system is irrelevant to my point. And of course no system is perfect - I never claimed Canada's is. But it's a hell of a lot better than America's specifically for the point I'm making. I find it so odd that so many Americans support a system where insurance companies profit from witholding care and poor people die because they can't afford the healthcare. It's crazy.
Good luck getting any sort of a fair conversation out about this or not getting mob attacked for your opinion. While the first article he posted is moot because that shit happens in every healthcare system, the second one is something we do have to deal with up here. As you said our system is not perfect and has its flaws. But I agree the American health care system is just sickening in its interest in profits before anything else. When you suggest anything different you get this response like you are telling them you are taking all of their "freedom" away. I guess we just have to be happy we live in a country where we were brought up to think of others along with ourselves, rather than just clawing for 'what is mine'.
If you have no skin in this game why do you feel the need to jump in. I never brought up health care in the first place. When you posted slamming the American health care system it opens yours up as well. The whole point of this thread was to bring up that I worked hard to get where I am at in life and with the state of our government here I do not want to see taxes increased. So if you don't want the flaws in Canada pointed out start your own thread tooting your health care system. If you want to slam our system that you are not a part of you shouldn't whine or complain when it comes back your way. Or is that too capitalistic for you.
Just to clear and accurate, rr brought up our healthcare system. We didn't drag this into the discussion he did. His comments were addressed, however just because you don't like the answers doesn't mean we don't know what we are talking about. Also who says I have no skin in this game? Are you implying that I need to be told when I have a vested interest in a conversation and when I don't? Thank you sooooooooooooo much for that, I have no idea what I would do without some good ole boy telling me what to think and when. GGF
We=the Canadian bopsy twins?
I kinda dig the 2 of you teaming up.you guys can get some of those cool red and white Olympic outfits with the leaf on it,Spritz on a little maple syrup and patrol the interwebs.Protecting the honor of all things Canadian.
Way to stay on topic and mature. Also it's called royal vernacular, look it up.
I like how you feel you can diss on something anything to do with Canada but the minute that gets turned around, y'all get the vapours. Enjoy that double standard, it looks good on you.
RR is just trying to inteject a little levity, he's a right jocular fellow!
You haven't done the same at all. I specifically pointed out that people die specifically because they don't have enough money. You said that wasn't true. I posted links to provide some evidence that it is. You posting a link about some errors that have occured in Canada's system is irrelevant to my point. And of course no system is perfect - I never claimed Canada's is. But it's a hell of a lot better than America's specifically for the point I'm making. I find it so odd that so many Americans support a system where insurance companies profit from witholding care and poor people die because they can't afford the healthcare. It's crazy.
Good luck getting any sort of a fair conversation out about this or not getting mob attacked for your opinion. While the first article he posted is moot because that shit happens in every healthcare system, the second one is something we do have to deal with up here. As you said our system is not perfect and has its flaws. But I agree the American health care system is just sickening in its interest in profits before anything else. When you suggest anything different you get this response like you are telling them you are taking all of their "freedom" away. I guess we just have to be happy we live in a country where we were brought up to think of others along with ourselves, rather than just clawing for 'what is mine'.
If you have no skin in this game why do you feel the need to jump in. I never brought up health care in the first place. When you posted slamming the American health care system it opens yours up as well. The whole point of this thread was to bring up that I worked hard to get where I am at in life and with the state of our government here I do not want to see taxes increased. So if you don't want the flaws in Canada pointed out start your own thread tooting your health care system. If you want to slam our system that you are not a part of you shouldn't whine or complain when it comes back your way. Or is that too capitalistic for you.
Just to clear and accurate, rr brought up our healthcare system. We didn't drag this into the discussion he did. His comments were addressed, however just because you don't like the answers doesn't mean we don't know what we are talking about. Also who says I have no skin in this game? Are you implying that I need to be told when I have a vested interest in a conversation and when I don't? Thank you sooooooooooooo much for that, I have no idea what I would do without some good ole boy telling me what to think and when. GGF
We=the Canadian bopsy twins?
I kinda dig the 2 of you teaming up.you guys can get some of those cool red and white Olympic outfits with the leaf on it,Spritz on a little maple syrup and patrol the interwebs.Protecting the honor of all things Canadian.
Way to stay on topic and mature. Also it's called royal vernacular, look it up.
I like how you feel you can diss on something anything to do with Canada but the minute that gets turned around, y'all get the vapours. Enjoy that double standard, it looks good on you.
Really ND?????
And what the fuck are vapours?
I love Canada,That's why it's so fun to discuss.who else do we have to give shit to? I'm not going to make fun of Mexico,that's just mean and insensitive .Plus their drug lords could whoop the shit out of our soft brothers and sisters up north.
But it's not all bad.You know I love me some Nickelback,Rush and Bryan Adams.Plus when my Panthers win the cup this year,I will tip one back in honor of the nation that gave us hockey.
I lost a twinge of repect for you RR with the nickleback thing.
ND, I only brought up Canadian health care as someone used google to show how fucked up ours is. I can use google to prove any point one way or the other as well. Our system is not perfect but its flaws are created by the government themselves. Giving them more money to fix it is akin to giving the crackhead on a corner money and then getting upset when they use it on crack and not what you wanted them to use it for. Our whole country is based on capitalism and that will never change.
So far as you having an opinion they are like assholes. Everyone has them and they smell. If yours is based on google then it is an asshole that dumped a fresh load without being cleaned. It smells really bad. You can share but don't get mad when you are told how bad it smells
Tom Brady & Donald Trump, BFF's Fuckus rules all Rob Seattle
Anyone ever think that those taxes paid for universal healthcare in Canada and any other countries providing it to their citizens are actually saving money? I was thinking about this the other day. And those of us in the US paying as we go and having to use insurance companies are paying a LOT more than we think.
I had the day off today and went to see "Where to Invade next?" at the theater. Not only did they reiterate this notion, but it's factual. We pay more as individuals using insurance companies and out-of-pocket than paying higher taxes for universal healthcare.
There was so much more to this film to learn about. It's about so much we have no idea about of European nations and ways they do some things that we, as a nation, can improve upon. I walked away feeling full of hope that with the right leadership, we could be that much better, if we stop looking at ourselves within American society as - ME - and switched it to - WE.
Because applying the same failed solutions to the same problems over and over again makes us stupid. Don't want to pay higher taxes for better service? Well, you'll just pay that money anyway, and much more, when you get sick or injured.
I lost a twinge of repect for you RR with the nickleback thing.
ND, I only brought up Canadian health care as someone used google to show how fucked up ours is. I can use google to prove any point one way or the other as well. Our system is not perfect but its flaws are created by the government themselves. Giving them more money to fix it is akin to giving the crackhead on a corner money and then getting upset when they use it on crack and not what you wanted them to use it for. Our whole country is based on capitalism and that will never change.
So far as you having an opinion they are like assholes. Everyone has them and they smell. If yours is based on google then it is an asshole that dumped a fresh load without being cleaned. It smells really bad. You can share but don't get mad when you are told how bad it smells
You're wrong by being strictly capitalist, revisit my list of 75 things that makes our country socialist.
Anyone ever think that those taxes paid for universal healthcare in Canada and any other countries providing it to their citizens are actually saving money? I was thinking about this the other day. And those of us in the US paying as we go and having to use insurance companies are paying a LOT more than we think.
I had the day off today and went to see "Where to Invade next?" at the theater. Not only did they reiterate this notion, but it's factual. We pay more as individuals using insurance companies and out-of-pocket than paying higher taxes for universal healthcare.
There was so much more to this film to learn about. It's about so much we have no idea about of European nations and ways they do some things that we, as a nation, can improve upon. I walked away feeling full of hope that with the right leadership, we could be that much better, if we stop looking at ourselves within American society as - ME - and switched it to - WE.
Because applying the same failed solutions to the same problems over and over again makes us stupid. Don't want to pay higher taxes for better service? Well, you'll just pay that money anyway, and much more, when you get sick or injured.
Right on. Is that a movie? Gonna check it out.
Please, Pearl Jam, consider a Benaroya Hall vinyl reissue!
Anyone ever think that those taxes paid for universal healthcare in Canada and any other countries providing it to their citizens are actually saving money? I was thinking about this the other day. And those of us in the US paying as we go and having to use insurance companies are paying a LOT more than we think.
I had the day off today and went to see "Where to Invade next?" at the theater. Not only did they reiterate this notion, but it's factual. We pay more as individuals using insurance companies and out-of-pocket than paying higher taxes for universal healthcare.
There was so much more to this film to learn about. It's about so much we have no idea about of European nations and ways they do some things that we, as a nation, can improve upon. I walked away feeling full of hope that with the right leadership, we could be that much better, if we stop looking at ourselves within American society as - ME - and switched it to - WE.
Because applying the same failed solutions to the same problems over and over again makes us stupid. Don't want to pay higher taxes for better service? Well, you'll just pay that money anyway, and much more, when you get sick or injured.
I didn't Google shit. Does anything I said look like it came from Google? Please also tell me what other source besides Google you use to find your info? It is a search engine, that's what it is there for. You ask for examples, they are provided, but their source isn't good enough for you. Please stop with the double standard it is nauseating. Either you are big enough boys to take a dissenting argument or you're in the wrong neck of the woods. If you don't agree and feel that particular discussion isn't progressing just stop replying. Why does the other party always have to shush it. The only thing around here that stinks is the hypocrisy.
Anything you lose from being honest You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
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Ask most people on this board, they will tell you.
Am I wrong?
How are those Kardashians that your healthcare system "gave birth to" doing for y'all in Murica?
You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
Fuckus rules all
Rob
Seattle
Also who says I have no skin in this game? Are you implying that I need to be told when I have a vested interest in a conversation and when I don't? Thank you sooooooooooooo much for that, I have no idea what I would do without some good ole boy telling me what to think and when.
GGF
You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
I'm not lazy.
Otherwise it's spot on lol jk
"Dude, you're just a cog in the corporate machine of karmic destruction, man"
I kinda dig the 2 of you teaming up.you guys can get some of those cool red and white Olympic outfits with the leaf on it,Spritz on a little maple syrup and patrol the interwebs.Protecting the honor of all things Canadian.
Guess she told you Ani!
Gross Goose Farts?
Great Gatsby Fictions?
Gringots Goblin Financial?
Georgian Government Fanatics?
Oh, I get it now.
Way to stay on topic and mature. Also it's called royal vernacular, look it up.
I like how you feel you can diss on
somethinganything to do with Canada but the minute that gets turned around, y'all get the vapours. Enjoy that double standard, it looks good on you.You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
And what the fuck are vapours?
I love Canada,That's why it's so fun to discuss.who else do we have to give shit to?
I'm not going to make fun of Mexico,that's just mean and insensitive .Plus their drug lords could whoop the shit out of our soft brothers and sisters up north.
But it's not all bad.You know I love me some Nickelback,Rush and Bryan Adams.Plus when my Panthers win the cup this year,I will tip one back in honor of the nation that gave us hockey.
ND, I only brought up Canadian health care as someone used google to show how fucked up ours is. I can use google to prove any point one way or the other as well. Our system is not perfect but its flaws are created by the government themselves. Giving them more money to fix it is akin to giving the crackhead on a corner money and then getting upset when they use it on crack and not what you wanted them to use it for. Our whole country is based on capitalism and that will never change.
So far as you having an opinion they are like assholes. Everyone has them and they smell. If yours is based on google then it is an asshole that dumped a fresh load without being cleaned. It smells really bad. You can share but don't get mad when you are told how bad it smells
Fuckus rules all
Rob
Seattle
I had the day off today and went to see "Where to Invade next?" at the theater. Not only did they reiterate this notion, but it's factual. We pay more as individuals using insurance companies and out-of-pocket than paying higher taxes for universal healthcare.
There was so much more to this film to learn about. It's about so much we have no idea about of European nations and ways they do some things that we, as a nation, can improve upon. I walked away feeling full of hope that with the right leadership, we could be that much better, if we stop looking at ourselves within American society as - ME - and switched it to - WE.
Because applying the same failed solutions to the same problems over and over again makes us stupid. Don't want to pay higher taxes for better service? Well, you'll just pay that money anyway, and much more, when you get sick or injured.
Please stop with the double standard it is nauseating. Either you are big enough boys to take a dissenting argument or you're in the wrong neck of the woods.
If you don't agree and feel that particular discussion isn't progressing just stop replying. Why does the other party always have to shush it. The only thing around here that stinks is the hypocrisy.
You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
Mark Tremonti > All of Nickelback