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Eddieshometown
Evanston, IL Posts: 974
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I'm kind of a data geek so I'm trying to figure out how this lottery works. There has been a lot of speculation but probably the best way to determine it is to post your results and we can kind of "reverse engineer" what the different rankings mean.
I'm not sure if there is a prior post just dedicated to this yet but I couldn't find one. I saw a lot of different posts where a few people posted their results but not one just dedicated to posting results
Based upon prior posts:
1) Someone who selected a show with 99% chance of winning didn't win the show at all (GA or Reserved) but it would be good to know how far down this was ranked
2) someone who selected 1) NYC #1 GA and 2) NYC #1 Res won NYC Reservered
Please just post your results and we can start a separate topic for analysis
I'm not sure if there is a prior post just dedicated to this yet but I couldn't find one. I saw a lot of different posts where a few people posted their results but not one just dedicated to posting results
Based upon prior posts:
1) Someone who selected a show with 99% chance of winning didn't win the show at all (GA or Reserved) but it would be good to know how far down this was ranked
2) someone who selected 1) NYC #1 GA and 2) NYC #1 Res won NYC Reservered
Please just post your results and we can start a separate topic for analysis
6/26/98 & 6/27/98 - Alpine Valley, 10/9/00 - Allstate Arena - Rosemont, IL 6/18/2003 - United Center, 5/16/2006 - United Center,
5/17/2006 - United Center (7th row center, caught Eddie's pick), 6/29/2006 - Summerfest with Tom Petty,
8/24/2009 - United Center, 7/19/2013 - Wrigley Field, 10/3/2014 - St Louis, 10/17/2014 - Moline (GA), 10/20/2014 - Milwaukee,
5/14/2015 - Pete Townshend/EV, 8/20/16 & 8/22/16 Wrigley Field Part 2&3, 8/18/18 & 8/20/18 Wrigley Parts 4 & 5, 9/18/2022 - St Louis
5/17/2006 - United Center (7th row center, caught Eddie's pick), 6/29/2006 - Summerfest with Tom Petty,
8/24/2009 - United Center, 7/19/2013 - Wrigley Field, 10/3/2014 - St Louis, 10/17/2014 - Moline (GA), 10/20/2014 - Milwaukee,
5/14/2015 - Pete Townshend/EV, 8/20/16 & 8/22/16 Wrigley Field Part 2&3, 8/18/18 & 8/20/18 Wrigley Parts 4 & 5, 9/18/2022 - St Louis
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2nd choice 04/26/2016 Lexington, KY- Reserved Seating WON
3rd choice 04/20/2016 Raleigh, NC- Reserved Seating WON
2nd choice night 1 philly reserved lost
3rd choice ( Hail Mary) night 2 msg reserved lost
2nd choice Lex KY RES-won
3rd choice Tampa FL GA-lost
4th choice Tampa FL RES-won
New Orleans LA 7/4/95 reschedule 9/17/95
Chicago IL 1998, 10/9/00, 06/18/03, 05/16/06, 05/17/06
08/23/09, 08/24/09, Lolla 08/05/07
Champaign IL 4/23/03
Grand Rapids MI VFC 10/03/04
Grand Rapids MI 19May06
Noblesville IN 05/07/10 Cleveland OH 05/09/10
PJ 20 2011
Baltimore MD, Charlottesville VA, Seattle WA 2013
St. Louis MO, Milwaukee WI 2014
Tampa FL, Chicago IL, Lexington KY 2016
Missoula MT 2018
2nd choice Toronto, ON - Res LOST
3rd choice Philadelphia 2 - Res LOST
4th choice Philadelphia 1 - GA LOST
5th choice Philadelphia 2 - GA LOST
6th choice Toronto, ON - GA LOST
2) MSG 2 Reserved - Lost
3) MSG 1 GA - Lost
4) MSG 2 GA - Lost
*None had odds better than 10%, not surprised
2) Greenville RS Lost
1. Greenville GA. Won
2. Greenville reserved. Lost
2. Raleigh GA - lost
3. Raleigh reserved - won
2. Columbia reserved - won
3. Greenville reserved - won
2003 - Champaign, IL
2006 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
2007 - Chicago, IL Lollapalooza
2009 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
2010 - St. Louis, MO
2011 - East Troy, WI 1 & 2 (PJ20 Destination Weekend)
2012 - Atlanta, GA, Missoula, MT
2013 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), Dallas, TX, Oklahoma City, OK
2014 - St. Louis, MO, Tulsa, OK, Moline, IL (No Code, IL), Saint Paul, MN, Milwaukee, WI (Yield, WI)
2016 - Greenville, SC (Vs, SC), Raleigh, NC, Columbia, SC, Boston, MA (Fenway Park 1), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
2022 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV
2023 - St. Paul, MN 2, Fort Worth, TX 2, Austin, TX 1, and Austin, TX 2
2014 - Soundgarden Tinley Park, IL (with Nine Inch Nails)
2017 - Soundgarden Dallas (cancelled) RIP Chris Cornell
2023 - Jerry Cantrell Milwaukee, WI
Jax Ga- Won
Jax reserved- Lost
Tampa reserved- Won
2) MSG 2 Res - Lost
3) MSG 1 GA - Lost
4) MSG 2 GA - Lost
5) PA 2 Res - Lost
6) PA 2 GA - Lost
7) PA 1 Res - Lost
8) PA 1 GA - Lost
Lost all. Knew it was going to be a long shot though. Was surprised to see some folks win maybe a FL show as their first pick, and then also NY as one of their latter choices. There's always next time, right?
1) Greenville GA - won
2) Greenville RSVD - lost
3) Lexington GA - lost
2) MSG 2 GA - Lost
3) MSG 1 Reserved - Lost
4) MSG 1 GA - Lost
I knew picks 2-4 were pretty much useless, but I had nothing to lose.
2003: 4/29 Albany, 5/2 Buffalo, 7/9 MSG 2 2006: 5/12 Albany, 6/3 East Rutherford 2
2008: 6/27 Hartford 2009: 10/27 Philadelphia 1 2010: 5/15 Hartford, 5/21 MSG 2
2013: 10/15 Worcester 1, 10/25 Hartford 2014: 10/1 Cincinnati
2018: 9/2 Fenway 1
2) Philly 2 Reserved - Won
St. Paul 2014 • Mexico City 2015 • Philadelphia II 2016 • Ottawa 2016 • Amsterdam I & II 2018 • Wrigley Field II 2018 • Phoenix 2022
Apollo Theater 2022 • Chicago I 2023
WON
2nd choice 04/08/2016 Ft Lauderdale, FL- Reserved Seating $159.00
WON
3rd choice 04/26/2016 Lexington, KY- Reserved Seating $159.00
WON
4th choice 04/16/2016 Greenville, SC- Reserved Seating $159.00
LOST
5th choice 04/09/2016 Miami, FL- Reserved Seating $159.00
LOST
6th choice 04/20/2016 Raleigh, NC- Reserved Seating $159.00
WON
7th choice 04/21/2016 Columbia, SC- Reserved Seating $159.00
LOST
My thought process...
Columbia GA was at like 60%... fairly certain I would win this this as #1
Ft. Lauderdale RES was at like 40% I believe, so I made it #2 assuming many people had FL GA 1st and RES 2nd, so once all the GA were fulfilled, many reserved seats would be available.
Lexington RES was at 77%, which is likely closer to 99% once the GAs are fulfilled
I didnt expect to win Greenville and Miami, so no surprise there
Raleigh and Columbia RES were both at 99%, so they were guaranteed Wins regardless of how low I ranked them
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
I would of prefered the GA for my home town (Quebec), but my wife is short, and will not do mosh pits any more !! ... I'm looking to trade both my Tampa and Ottawa RS venues for GA at same locations. I have an honnest member # of 211k
1) Quebec RS - Won
2) Tampa GA - Lost
3) Ottawa RS - Won
4) Ottawa GA - Lost
5) MSG 1 RS - Lost
6) MSG 1 GA - Lost
7) Quebec GA - Lost , ...
8) Tampa RS - Won
1998 - Montréal, Molson Center
2000 - Montréal, Molson Center
2005 - Halifax, NS. Metro Centre. (Missed but the Wife got to go while I was at New Orleans Hurricane Katrina relief work)
2008 - NYC, NY. MSG 1&2 (revenge for missing Halifax in 05 !!)
2011 - Montréal, QC. Bell Center
2011 - Winnipeg, MB MTS Center
2016 - Tampa, FL. Amalie
2016 - Québec, QC. Centre Vidéotron
2016 - Ottawa, ON.
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2nd choice 05/02/2016 New York, NY- Reserved Seating LOST
3rd choice 04/08/2016 Ft Lauderdale, FL- Reserved Seating WON
Member #222XXX
2003: 4/29 Albany, 6/02 Irvine, 6/03 Irvine, 6/05 San Diego, 6/07 Phoenix, 10/28 Santa Barbara
2006: 7/07 San Diego, 7/09 Los Angeles, 7/10 Los Angeles, 7/13 Santa Barbara
2009: 9/30 Universal City, 10/01 Universal City, 10/06 Universal City, 10/07 Universal City, 10/09 San Diego
2010: 5/17 Boston
2011: 9/03 East Troy, 9/04 East Troy
2013: 7/19 Wrigley Field, 10/18 Brooklyn, 11/23 Los Angeles, 11/24 Los Angeles
2016: 5/01 New York, 5/02 New York, 8/07 Fenway Park, 11/14 (TOTD) Los Angeles
2021: 9/26 Ohana, 10/1 Ohana, 10/2 Ohana
2022: 5/06 Los Angeles, 5/07 Los Angeles
2-MSG 2 res lost
3-JAX GA won
4-Jax Res lost
5-FTL res lost
6-MIA res lost
7-Tampa res won
8-Philly 1 res lost
9-philly 2 res lost
2) Hampton Reserved - Won
3) Raleigh Reserved - Won
4) Columbia Reserved - Lost
5) Raleigh GA - Lost
6) Hampton GA - Lost
I won a GA show in each of the last 2 lotteries - and it was always my 1st priority pick.
Philly 2 reserved - won
Philly 1 ga - lost
Philly 2 ga - lost
Philly-8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/3/05, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 4/28/16, 4/29/16
Jones Beach-8/25/00
PSU-5/3/03
Irvine-6/2/03
San Diego-6/5/03
Hershey-7/12/03
Reading-10/1/04
The Gorge-9/1/05
Vancouver-9/2/05
AC-9/30/05
E. Rutherford, NJ-6/1/06,6/3/06
Bonnaroo-6/14/08
VA Beach-6/17/08
MSG-5/20/10,5/21/10
Baltimore 10/27/13
2) PHL (night 2) RES - WON
3) VA GA - lost
4) VA RES - WON
5) MIA RES - lost
6) TPA RES - WON
7) MSG (night 2) RES - lost
My # is real low, so reserved seats are usually awesome. Love the pit, but not worth taking a chance at the lower odds and sacrificing my chances for multiple shows. Knew the Philly & MSG shows would be extremely hard AND once you win 1 show in that city all your other picks for that show become void, so there's no sense loading up your top 4 picks with one city (ie RES & GA for both nights). If you are LUCKY, you can hit ONE of those picks and now your next pick isn't until pick 5. After I got shut out in the Wrigley lottery and had to pay and arm & a leg for tickets, my wife and I decided to get her a membership to increase our odds in future lotteris. Since her # is so high, we usually try for just a couple GA shows for her. She lucked out with MOLINE GA in her first lottery. This time around we decided to have her go for MIAMI GA #1, MIAMI RES #2, and FLL GA #3. Since Miami's odds were so good, we were pretty confident that she'd hit either GA or RES. (She hit #1 choice - Miami GA) The FLL reserved odds were also very good (especially with a #1 pick) so by me taking FLL RES #1 and her going for MIA GA #1 and Miami RES #2, we felt real confident at getting BOTH those shows which is what we really wanted. Took a shot at Philly RES with my #2 pick. Figured people would be torn between GA and RES OR between Philly or MSG, so a single shot at ONE Philly show (at the better odds Reserveds) was the way to go. That was it, Wasn't about to waste any more picks on NY or Philly and hurt my other chances. Went for VA GA with my #3 pick which I usually NEVER do. It is extremely rare that I see people hit a GA pick with anything other than a 1st or 2nd pick. I did it though because the VA Reserved odds were very good & I thought I would have a good chance at getting VA RES at #4. If those odds had dropped any more, I would have skipped VA GA at #3 and gone straight for the better odds of VA RES at #3. My thoughts proved correct & I was able to get VA RES at #4 after losing VA GA at #3. Chose MIA RES at #5. Knew that if I DID hit MIA RES at #5 then the wife would have already had tix cause she had MIA at #1 & #2. However, if wife MISSED out on MIA GA, I knew that my MIA RES would be better than her MIA RES (159xx VS 516xxx) and that if we hit both it would be very easy to get rid of hers. Put Tampa RES at #6 cause the odds were crazy good (OVER 90%) so I knew I didn't have to put that one very high at all. All in all, your BEST chance to GUARANTEE at least ONE show is to go for RESERVED seats to the more unpopular shows. Play the odds. Do you HAVE to have GA, or do you just want to be in the building? Even the WORST 10c tix are better than all the tix from Ticketmaster, and you won't have to pay 4 to 5 times FACE on some scalping site.
1998 Mansfield
2000 Atlanta & Mansfield
2003 Mansfield (X2)
2004 Boston
2006 Chicago & Boston (x2)
2008 Mansfield (x2)
2009 Chicago
2010 Buffalo & Boston
2011 Toronto
2012 Amsterdam
2013 Wrigley, Worcerster (x2), Philly, & Hartford
2014 Memphis, Moline, Denver
2016 Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Tampa, Hampton, Philly, Fenway (x2), Wrigley Monday
2018 Wrigley (x2), Fenway (x2)
2022 MSG. Nashville
2. Lexington Reserved - won
2. Raleigh GA - lost
3. Greenville Reserved - won
4. Greenville GA - lost
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2. Ottawa Reserved -won
No other choices
2013: London, Brooklyn 1&2 | 2014: Detroit | 2015: New York | 2016: Ottawa / Toronto 1 / Wrigley 1
Msg nite 2 res lost
Msg nite 1 ga lost
Msg nite 2 res lost
Philly nite 2 res lost
2013: London, Brooklyn 1&2 | 2014: Detroit | 2015: New York | 2016: Ottawa / Toronto 1 / Wrigley 1
2. Greenville Reserved - Won
3. Lexington Reserved - Won
4. Lexington GA - Lost
5. Philly Night 1 Reserved - Lost