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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    dignin said:

    JC29856 said:

    Has Detroit reported yet? Any way to tell which precincts make up the reporting?

    I find this to be pretty up to date coverage. Apparently nothing in Detroit reporting yet.

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/michigan-mississippi-idaho-hawaii-primaries-presidential-election-2016/
    Good stuff there. Might get ugly when Hillary starts closing that lead with the black vote.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Not looking good, Hillary is closing fast. Less than 2% ahead now.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    No Democrat can argue "inevitability" in a year when they lose Michigan.
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    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    I know I seen most polls earlier show Hillary with 20+ point leads. Have polls ever been so wrong? Either something fishy going on or polls are useless.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    JC29856 said:

    I know I seen most polls earlier show Hillary with 20+ point leads. Have polls ever been so wrong? Either something fishy going on or polls are useless.

    Polls. Really mean. Nothing!! Ha ha!
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Big polls
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    The absolute best thing that could happen is Bernie win out by whatever margin and Hillary still be the nominee.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,251
    I'm surprised more Democrats are not enraged by the nominee selection process and the super delegates.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,656
    No time for negative thinking. Bernie's on a roll. They said it's over? It ain't over!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,292
    brianlux said:

    No time for negative thinking. Bernie's on a roll. They said it's over? It ain't over!

    Exactly! Get pissed whenever he wins more pledged delegates but the super delegates won't flip. Right now that sort of anger will only discourage people from hitting the booths.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    The super delegates are such a bad look for the party. Insiders supporting the Establishment candidate in 2016 isn't something that plays well to the voters, to say the least. Democrats would be much better off without them.
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    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,656
    RiotZact said:

    brianlux said:

    No time for negative thinking. Bernie's on a roll. They said it's over? It ain't over!

    Exactly! Get pissed whenever he wins more pledged delegates but the super delegates won't flip. Right now that sort of anger will only discourage people from hitting the booths.
    That is frustrating, RZ, but the momentum is building. I think this is what were going to see happen further down the line. Michigan was HUGE and people are seeing that. That win will re-energize his campaign.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    If he can win Michigan he can win anywhere in the North. Ohio, Illinois, Pennsylvania...any of them could be in play. That is what last night showed.
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    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Super delegates will not vote counter to regular delegates If Bernie gets most regular delegates he will be nominee.
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  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,292
    brianlux said:

    RiotZact said:

    brianlux said:

    No time for negative thinking. Bernie's on a roll. They said it's over? It ain't over!

    Exactly! Get pissed whenever he wins more pledged delegates but the super delegates won't flip. Right now that sort of anger will only discourage people from hitting the booths.
    That is frustrating, RZ, but the momentum is building. I think this is what were going to see happen further down the line. Michigan was HUGE and people are seeing that. That win will re-energize his campaign.

    Truth! Winter is over America, get ready to start feeling the Bern!!!
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,656
    RiotZact said:

    brianlux said:

    RiotZact said:

    brianlux said:

    No time for negative thinking. Bernie's on a roll. They said it's over? It ain't over!

    Exactly! Get pissed whenever he wins more pledged delegates but the super delegates won't flip. Right now that sort of anger will only discourage people from hitting the booths.
    That is frustrating, RZ, but the momentum is building. I think this is what were going to see happen further down the line. Michigan was HUGE and people are seeing that. That win will re-energize his campaign.

    Truth! Winter is over America, get ready to start feeling the Bern!!!
    :plus_one:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    I haven't heard the name Gary Hart in a while before last night...Bernie prob don't want to hear that name again!
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    RiotZact said:

    brianlux said:

    No time for negative thinking. Bernie's on a roll. They said it's over? It ain't over!

    Exactly! Get pissed whenever he wins more pledged delegates but the super delegates won't flip. Right now that sort of anger will only discourage people from hitting the booths.
    Super delegates can and very well may flip. Refer to 8 years ago.
  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,292
    edited March 2016
    Free said:

    RiotZact said:

    brianlux said:

    No time for negative thinking. Bernie's on a roll. They said it's over? It ain't over!

    Exactly! Get pissed whenever he wins more pledged delegates but the super delegates won't flip. Right now that sort of anger will only discourage people from hitting the booths.
    Super delegates can and very well may flip. Refer to 8 years ago.
    Exactly, they will flip if we demand it with our votes.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/superdelegates-might-not-save-hillary-clinton/

    Superdelegates Might Not Save Hillary Clinton
    If you look at a Democratic delegate tracker like this one from The New York Times, you’ll find that Hillary Clinton has a massive 394-44 delegate lead over Bernie Sanders so far, despite having been walloped by Sanders in New Hampshire and only essentially having tied him in Iowa. While Sanders does have a modest 36-32 lead among elected delegates — those that are bound to the candidates based on the results of voting in primaries and caucuses — Clinton leads 362-8 among superdelegates, who are Democratic elected officials and other party insiders allowed to support whichever candidate they like.

    If you’re a Sanders supporter, you might think this seems profoundly unfair. And you’d be right: It’s profoundly unfair. Superdelegates were created in part to give Democratic party elites the opportunity to put their finger on the scale and prevent nominations like those of George McGovern in 1972 or Jimmy Carter in 1976, which displeased party insiders.

    Here’s the consolation, however. Unlike elected delegates, superdelegates are unbound to any candidate even on the first ballot. They can switch whenever they like, and some of them probably will switch to Sanders if he extends his winning streak into more diverse states and eventually appears to have more of a mandate than Clinton among Democratic voters.

    Clinton knows this all too well; it’s exactly what happened to her in 2008 during her loss to Barack Obama. According to the website Democratic Convention Watch,1 Clinton began with a substantial advantage in superdelegates, leading Obama 154 to 50 when New Hampshire voted on Jan. 8, 2008. Obama narrowed his deficit in February and March, however, and overtook Clinton in superdelegates in mid-May. By the time Clinton ended her campaign on June 7, 2008, Obama had nearly a 2-to-1 superdelegate advantage over her.
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