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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    JimmyV said:

    Go Beavers said:

    JimmyV said:

    So here is a potential problem. Record turnout in the Maine Republican Caucuses yesterday is dwarfing turnout in the Democratic Caucuses today. Unless there is something strange in the numbers - which is possible, sometimes caucus math is weird - then this might be a bad sign in a state which has gone blue twice for Obama.

    You think Maine is going to go Republican? No way. If that happens, I'll eat my shorts and post the video on AMT.
    It wouldn't be a bet I would be eager to make, no. But these numbers tonight are surprising.
    Where are you getting your numbers because turnout for today is very high...
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    ...not to mention Bernie won 65% - 35%.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    Free said:

    JimmyV said:

    Go Beavers said:

    JimmyV said:

    So here is a potential problem. Record turnout in the Maine Republican Caucuses yesterday is dwarfing turnout in the Democratic Caucuses today. Unless there is something strange in the numbers - which is possible, sometimes caucus math is weird - then this might be a bad sign in a state which has gone blue twice for Obama.

    You think Maine is going to go Republican? No way. If that happens, I'll eat my shorts and post the video on AMT.
    It wouldn't be a bet I would be eager to make, no. But these numbers tonight are surprising.
    Where are you getting your numbers because turnout for today is very high...
    The GOP numbers dwarf the Democratic numbers with 80% of the vote counted. The parties may be counting differently though which would help explain it.

    http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/maine
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,537
    JimmyV said:

    Free said:

    JimmyV said:

    Go Beavers said:

    JimmyV said:

    So here is a potential problem. Record turnout in the Maine Republican Caucuses yesterday is dwarfing turnout in the Democratic Caucuses today. Unless there is something strange in the numbers - which is possible, sometimes caucus math is weird - then this might be a bad sign in a state which has gone blue twice for Obama.

    You think Maine is going to go Republican? No way. If that happens, I'll eat my shorts and post the video on AMT.
    It wouldn't be a bet I would be eager to make, no. But these numbers tonight are surprising.
    Where are you getting your numbers because turnout for today is very high...
    The GOP numbers dwarf the Democratic numbers with 80% of the vote counted. The parties may be counting differently though which would help explain it.

    http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/maine
    These numbers don't really mean anything for predicting how Maine will go in November. About 600,000 Mainers will vote in Nov. Less than 20,000 participated in the caucus.
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    I'd love to see you guys eat your panties.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    Go Beavers said:

    JimmyV said:

    Free said:

    JimmyV said:

    Go Beavers said:

    JimmyV said:

    So here is a potential problem. Record turnout in the Maine Republican Caucuses yesterday is dwarfing turnout in the Democratic Caucuses today. Unless there is something strange in the numbers - which is possible, sometimes caucus math is weird - then this might be a bad sign in a state which has gone blue twice for Obama.

    You think Maine is going to go Republican? No way. If that happens, I'll eat my shorts and post the video on AMT.
    It wouldn't be a bet I would be eager to make, no. But these numbers tonight are surprising.
    Where are you getting your numbers because turnout for today is very high...
    The GOP numbers dwarf the Democratic numbers with 80% of the vote counted. The parties may be counting differently though which would help explain it.

    http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/maine
    These numbers don't really mean anything for predicting how Maine will go in November. About 600,000 Mainers will vote in Nov. Less than 20,000 participated in the caucus.
    It does (potentially) show a huge enthusiasm gap between the two parties. The numbers aren't close.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Hillary is starting to echo Bernie...especially with regard to race and education costs
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,656
    JC29856 said:

    Hillary is starting to echo Bernie...especially with regard to race and education costs

    What's that saying about imitation and flattery? :wink:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    JC29856 said:

    Hillary is starting to echo Bernie...especially with regard to race and education costs

    She's been doing it for a while now.
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    She is dried up
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    Wow. MSNBC reporter just got caught on live TV working out what questions they were going to ask Clinton's communication director. Maybe that's routine but it was a BAD look.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JimmyV said:

    Wow. MSNBC reporter just got caught on live TV working out what questions they were going to ask Clinton's communication director. Maybe that's routine but it was a BAD look.

    Yeah I wish they did the voice disclosures like at the end of prescription drug commercials.
    Nausea light headedness....Hillary may cause suicidal thoughts...
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Free said:

    JC29856 said:

    Hillary is starting to echo Bernie...especially with regard to race and education costs

    She's been doing it for a while now.
    If she echoing Bernie now...will she echo trump later
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Truth be told
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,656
    JC29856 said:

    Free said:

    JC29856 said:

    Hillary is starting to echo Bernie...especially with regard to race and education costs

    She's been doing it for a while now.
    If she echoing Bernie now...will she echo trump later
    :i_dunno:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    JimmyV said:

    Go Beavers said:

    JimmyV said:

    Free said:

    JimmyV said:

    Go Beavers said:

    JimmyV said:

    So here is a potential problem. Record turnout in the Maine Republican Caucuses yesterday is dwarfing turnout in the Democratic Caucuses today. Unless there is something strange in the numbers - which is possible, sometimes caucus math is weird - then this might be a bad sign in a state which has gone blue twice for Obama.

    You think Maine is going to go Republican? No way. If that happens, I'll eat my shorts and post the video on AMT.
    It wouldn't be a bet I would be eager to make, no. But these numbers tonight are surprising.
    Where are you getting your numbers because turnout for today is very high...
    The GOP numbers dwarf the Democratic numbers with 80% of the vote counted. The parties may be counting differently though which would help explain it.

    http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/maine
    These numbers don't really mean anything for predicting how Maine will go in November. About 600,000 Mainers will vote in Nov. Less than 20,000 participated in the caucus.
    It does (potentially) show a huge enthusiasm gap between the two parties. The numbers aren't close.
    This has to be another case of the Dems using the odd "delegate equivalents" system we heard about in Iowa. It can't be straight one man/one vote totals. The numbers don't match the pictures.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    rgambs said:

    hedonist said:

    JC29856 said:

    hedonist said:

    Is having a basic ID (not even a driver's license) such a preposterous notion?

    Preposterous never.
    May not be as easy or as affordable to some then others.
    What are the requirements to get the basic ID? Where? HOW MUCH? Etc...
    I just checked. Here in California, go to the DMV (you can make an appointment at most locations), fill out the application (or can get it online), have your thumbprint and photo taken, and pay $28. Provide birth certificate or similar documentation. Not too much to do. I managed this feat in my teens, without assistance other than a ride to the DMV.

    Agree with jeff's comments as well. Logical, as usual.

    And I'm not sure the ticket pick-up example is unequatable - to me, it illustrated that something as simple and innocuous as acquiring concert tickets via the 10C requires ID. Most here are good with that scenario, unless I'm mistaken.

    That another something so much more important (I'd hope! To me, at least, it is) would require the same isn't over the top...or is it, really, to some?
    28 dollars buys a dozen eggs, a few loaves of bread, peanut butter and jelly, and more. A trip to the DMV is a pain in the ass for everyone, those who don't drive even more so.
    There is no doubt that it diacpurages a greater number of people from voting than the number who try to commit voter fraud.
    "birth certificate or other similar such doc" is also barrier for many.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    callen said:

    rgambs said:

    hedonist said:

    JC29856 said:

    hedonist said:

    Is having a basic ID (not even a driver's license) such a preposterous notion?

    Preposterous never.
    May not be as easy or as affordable to some then others.
    What are the requirements to get the basic ID? Where? HOW MUCH? Etc...
    I just checked. Here in California, go to the DMV (you can make an appointment at most locations), fill out the application (or can get it online), have your thumbprint and photo taken, and pay $28. Provide birth certificate or similar documentation. Not too much to do. I managed this feat in my teens, without assistance other than a ride to the DMV.

    Agree with jeff's comments as well. Logical, as usual.

    And I'm not sure the ticket pick-up example is unequatable - to me, it illustrated that something as simple and innocuous as acquiring concert tickets via the 10C requires ID. Most here are good with that scenario, unless I'm mistaken.

    That another something so much more important (I'd hope! To me, at least, it is) would require the same isn't over the top...or is it, really, to some?
    28 dollars buys a dozen eggs, a few loaves of bread, peanut butter and jelly, and more. A trip to the DMV is a pain in the ass for everyone, those who don't drive even more so.
    There is no doubt that it diacpurages a greater number of people from voting than the number who try to commit voter fraud.
    "birth certificate or other similar such doc" is also barrier for many.
    Absolutely, and rarely do you get a correct answer when you call (any administrative body public or private) and ask which documents you will need and where to go with them.
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  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    no comments after last night's debate?
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    Free said:

    no comments after last night's debate?

    I didn't get to see it. Only some of the wrap-up afterwards.
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