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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    i would probably most likely crawl through broken glass to vote, but that's just me. we're all different & have different beliefs. here's another thing... if someone is an adult or driving age, get fucking id. good to go

    there's this one country far away that has people (applying for id) swim 13 miles before they can have a photo id. over there you can not buy a frickin thing without id except for tape & glue

    just kidding
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,292
    chadwick said:

    i would probably most likely crawl through broken glass to vote, but that's just me. we're all different & have different beliefs. here's another thing... if someone is an adult or driving age, get fucking id. good to go

    Yeah I feel you, it's just frustrating that the law is clearly in place in order to keep certain people from voting, several conservative politicians even admit as much in that video.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    chadwick said:

    we're all different & have different beliefs. here's another thing... if someone is an adult or driving age, get fucking id. good to go

    I just love your heart and mind, chadwick.

  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    nicely done, hedonist. thank you
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a42451/scott-walker-voter-id-veteran/

    Iwo Jima veteran denied his vote due to GOP (that worm of a man Scott Walker) voter ID law.
    This is what happens.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    rgambs said:

    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a42451/scott-walker-voter-id-veteran/

    Iwo Jima veteran denied his vote due to GOP (that worm of a man Scott Walker) voter ID law.
    This is what happens.

    This issue totally deserves its own thread.

    That this kind of thing happens is both a travesty and a disgrace. That it happens commonly is an embarrassment. The system from how you get an ID to what counts as an ID needs to be revamped. Stories like this can't be spread around enough.

    When it comes to voting, I just see it as two separate issues. The issue of ID needs to be fixed. The issue of ID can be fixed. I just don't see that as a reason - once it is fixed - to not require ID at the polls. People need to register, people should also need to show some form of free, easy to obtain proof they are the person who did register.

    (PS - I used to live down the street from the Charles Pierce who wrote that article. Super nice guy.)
    ___________________________________________

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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    JimmyV said:

    rgambs said:

    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a42451/scott-walker-voter-id-veteran/

    Iwo Jima veteran denied his vote due to GOP (that worm of a man Scott Walker) voter ID law.
    This is what happens.

    This issue totally deserves its own thread.

    That this kind of thing happens is both a travesty and a disgrace. That it happens commonly is an embarrassment. The system from how you get an ID to what counts as an ID needs to be revamped. Stories like this can't be spread around enough.

    When it comes to voting, I just see it as two separate issues. The issue of ID needs to be fixed. The issue of ID can be fixed. I just don't see that as a reason - once it is fixed - to not require ID at the polls. People need to register, people should also need to show some form of free, easy to obtain proof they are the person who did register.

    (PS - I used to live down the street from the Charles Pierce who wrote that article. Super nice guy.)
    Starting from last to first, that is really cool!
    The way I see it, if ID laws are the way a governing body wants to go, they should START with a satisfactory ID solution an go from there. If they did so, it would be two separate issues. The current system is to shove ID laws through and worry about problems later (if at all!).
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    rgambs said:

    JimmyV said:

    rgambs said:

    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a42451/scott-walker-voter-id-veteran/

    Iwo Jima veteran denied his vote due to GOP (that worm of a man Scott Walker) voter ID law.
    This is what happens.

    This issue totally deserves its own thread.

    That this kind of thing happens is both a travesty and a disgrace. That it happens commonly is an embarrassment. The system from how you get an ID to what counts as an ID needs to be revamped. Stories like this can't be spread around enough.

    When it comes to voting, I just see it as two separate issues. The issue of ID needs to be fixed. The issue of ID can be fixed. I just don't see that as a reason - once it is fixed - to not require ID at the polls. People need to register, people should also need to show some form of free, easy to obtain proof they are the person who did register.

    (PS - I used to live down the street from the Charles Pierce who wrote that article. Super nice guy.)
    Starting from last to first, that is really cool!
    The way I see it, if ID laws are the way a governing body wants to go, they should START with a satisfactory ID solution an go from there. If they did so, it would be two separate issues. The current system is to shove ID laws through and worry about problems later (if at all!).
    Even worse, the laws are shoved through with obvious flaws by design. That is criminal.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    rgambs said:

    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a42451/scott-walker-voter-id-veteran/

    Iwo Jima veteran denied his vote due to GOP (that worm of a man Scott Walker) voter ID law.
    This is what happens.

    thank you, rgambs

    i don't even know where to start. yes i do. his family better get him a id card. wait... those bastards running the show should give him a ride to & from the dmv & take him out to breakfast & lunch. if i were... never mind. this fucking irritates me. help get the man his id card.

    im not happy right now
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited March 2016
    Anyone know how these attendees at the flint "debate" got their ticket to attend?

    Is the crowd just a bunch of democrat insiders?
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited March 2016
    Will nestle draining the lakes and then providing bottled water come up?
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    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    New Hampshire goes to Bernie.
    Vermont goes to Bernie.
    Tonight Maine goes to Bernie.

    It would be a clear pattern in New England if Massachusetts hadn't screwed it up.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    JC29856 said:

    Anyone know how these attendees at the flint "debate" got their ticket to attend?

    Is the crowd just a bunch of democrat insiders?

    I read today that people are angry because the public was not invited. Those questions supposedly don't represent the people of Flint.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    edited March 2016
    So here is a potential problem. Record turnout in the Maine Republican Caucuses yesterday is dwarfing turnout in the Democratic Caucuses today. Unless there is something strange in the numbers - which is possible, sometimes caucus math is weird - then this might be a bad sign in a state which has gone blue twice for Obama.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,538
    JimmyV said:

    So here is a potential problem. Record turnout in the Maine Republican Caucuses yesterday is dwarfing turnout in the Democratic Caucuses today. Unless there is something strange in the numbers - which is possible, sometimes caucus math is weird - then this might be a bad sign in a state which has gone blue twice for Obama.

    You think Maine is going to go Republican? No way. If that happens, I'll eat my shorts and post the video on AMT.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited March 2016
    JimmyV said:

    So here is a potential problem. Record turnout in the Maine Republican Caucuses yesterday is dwarfing turnout in the Democratic Caucuses today. Unless there is something strange in the numbers - which is possible, sometimes caucus math is weird - then this might be a bad sign in a state which has gone blue twice for Obama.

    http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2016/03/06/turnout-in-maine-democratic-caucuses-is-insanely-high-n2129540
    Post edited by Free on
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597

    JimmyV said:

    So here is a potential problem. Record turnout in the Maine Republican Caucuses yesterday is dwarfing turnout in the Democratic Caucuses today. Unless there is something strange in the numbers - which is possible, sometimes caucus math is weird - then this might be a bad sign in a state which has gone blue twice for Obama.

    You think Maine is going to go Republican? No way. If that happens, I'll eat my shorts and post the video on AMT.
    It wouldn't be a bet I would be eager to make, no. But these numbers tonight are surprising.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    JimmyV said:

    JimmyV said:

    So here is a potential problem. Record turnout in the Maine Republican Caucuses yesterday is dwarfing turnout in the Democratic Caucuses today. Unless there is something strange in the numbers - which is possible, sometimes caucus math is weird - then this might be a bad sign in a state which has gone blue twice for Obama.

    You think Maine is going to go Republican? No way. If that happens, I'll eat my shorts and post the video on AMT.
    It wouldn't be a bet I would be eager to make, no. But these numbers tonight are surprising.
    I will do the same. (Note to self, check on-line for edible undies... just in case).

    Hopefully all the L.L. Beaners will have a strong turn out.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni