With political correctness nowadays..........

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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    hedonist said:

    tempo, same here. My husband as well.

    I don't take offense to the comment but if someone said that to me? I'd smile and nod my head, as I know the paths taken to be where I am. If others don't get it, cool - rolls off my back.

    Understood. I hate being lumped in with the priveledged though. That's racist no? "all white collared whites won already"

    If you're white, you have white privilege. It's just a fact, and not racist or prejudiced. If someone's offended when it's white privilege is pointed out, then their offense is from denial.
    After reading five different articles I can see the point. It's just really, really hard for me to see it in myself as having "white privilege". I didn't grow up like 99.9% of you. So try and see it from my perspective.
    White privilege doesn't mean that you didn't work hard, nobody is saying that. White privilege means that your hard work was recognized and rewarded. Millions of people on this planet have worked hard to a point that would put you to shame and they received starvation wages or worse for that work, not promotions and an increasingly easier life.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,621
    White privilege also means you don't have to work as hard, and you also have a leg up in nearly all social situations and interactions in the work environment. As a white guy, I'm given a higher level of trust and respect from the start, and then it's me as to whether I lose that trust and respect. Minorities often have to show that their worthy of that respect and work to earn it.
  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    How do you guys live with yourselves w/ all this White Guilt? It must be exhausting...
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    No guilt. None. Just acknowledge reality and if everyone did we could make it where there is no difference.

    But understand the primate mind and how evolution instilled divisiveness as a survival instinct.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,675
    callen said:

    No guilt. None. Just acknowledge reality and if everyone did we could make it where there is no difference.

    But understand the primate mind and how evolution instilled divisiveness as a survival instinct.

    Exactly, no guilt at all. Just a willingness to face reality.

    Reality such as:

    In the vast majority of cases, white males have an advantage in our society.
    White males in America generally have more privilege.
    Some of my white ancestors very likely contributed to the genocide of Native Americans.
    The majority of the world is non-white and if we who are white don't stop treating the rest of the world like crap that will come back on us big time.

    See, that wasn't hard to say. Look at reality, face the facts, be part of the change.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    edited December 2015
    Call me crazy but as a hiring manager i just take the best candidate whether theyre black/white/asian/etc. same with promoting workers. Id be a huge racist if i promoted the black guy over the white guy who actually deserves the spot.

    I dont care what the demographics look like. Im taking the best male or female for the job. And hey the last three people ive picked have been black. Best person at the time. I dont want to hear crap tho about privlege if i take a white person who was simply better. Just like they shouldnt face that. And "why they're better" comes down to hard work, better resume, etc At this level everyone is privileged enough to have a degree.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,534
    muskydan said:

    How do you guys live with yourselves w/ all this White Guilt? It must be exhausting...

    Remember Dan you're on a site populated mostly with liberals that are supporting a band that is unabashedly liberal.
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    check your privilege bro. WWPCPD? what would pc principal do? lmao
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,675
    rssesq said:

    check your privilege bro. WWPCPD? what would pc principal do? lmao
    Happy Holidays!
    is what terrorists say!

    Merry Christmas EVERY1!!!!!!!!!!

    Yeah but the thing is, if you DKWTM then NORKHTHY with all of those CANSA's. And as for the terrorists, IRDWAT.

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    -Roberto Benigni

  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697

    callen said:

    hedonist said:

    tempo, same here. My husband as well.

    I don't take offense to the comment but if someone said that to me? I'd smile and nod my head, as I know the paths taken to be where I am. If others don't get it, cool - rolls off my back.

    Understood. I hate being lumped in with the priveledged though. That's racist no? "all white collared whites won already"

    YES white males working corporate America won the lottery.

    Amazed every time I go into meeting with 50 of so attendees and there's maybe one black male.

    Sorry but if you don't think you won lottery being born white in America in this world you out of touch with reality and give yourself way too much credit. Working hard is relative. But understand need to feel special.
    I'm surprised that my hard work, ability to learn and adapt, life experience and job promotion all amounted to nothing and where I am today is only because I'm white.

    Boom!!
    Nailed it.
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    muskydan said:

    How do you guys live with yourselves w/ all this White Guilt? It must be exhausting...

    I'm exhausted just reading about it.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    rr165892 said:

    muskydan said:

    How do you guys live with yourselves w/ all this White Guilt? It must be exhausting...

    I'm exhausted just reading about it.
    It's certainly no more exhausting than keeping inflated the fantasy that everyone's hard work counts the same.
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  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    muskydan said:

    How do you guys live with yourselves w/ all this White Guilt? It must be exhausting...

    I'm exhausted just reading about it.
    It's certainly no more exhausting than keeping inflated the fantasy that everyone's hard work counts the same.
    Tell me about it...I took me a lot longer to get promoted simply due to not being the right flavor.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    muskydan said:

    rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    muskydan said:

    How do you guys live with yourselves w/ all this White Guilt? It must be exhausting...

    I'm exhausted just reading about it.
    It's certainly no more exhausting than keeping inflated the fantasy that everyone's hard work counts the same.
    Tell me about it...I took me a lot longer to get promoted simply due to not being the right flavor.
    Poor guy, I feel bad for you.
    You and those little Vietnamese kids working their fingers to the bone have so much in common.
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  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    rgambs said:

    muskydan said:

    rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    muskydan said:

    How do you guys live with yourselves w/ all this White Guilt? It must be exhausting...

    I'm exhausted just reading about it.
    It's certainly no more exhausting than keeping inflated the fantasy that everyone's hard work counts the same.
    Tell me about it...I took me a lot longer to get promoted simply due to not being the right flavor.
    Poor guy, I feel bad for you.
    You and those little Vietnamese kids working their fingers to the bone have so much in common.
    Don't feel bad for me, I do alright. You are correct about the Vietnamesse people thou....never seen a harder working group of people then them in my short time there. You should go see 4 yourself w/ your own eyes..
  • rgambs said:

    muskydan said:

    rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    muskydan said:

    How do you guys live with yourselves w/ all this White Guilt? It must be exhausting...

    I'm exhausted just reading about it.
    It's certainly no more exhausting than keeping inflated the fantasy that everyone's hard work counts the same.
    Tell me about it...I took me a lot longer to get promoted simply due to not being the right flavor.
    Poor guy, I feel bad for you.
    You and those little Vietnamese kids working their fingers to the bone have so much in common.
    I hope you don't own anything made from China.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    rgambs said:

    muskydan said:

    rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    muskydan said:

    How do you guys live with yourselves w/ all this White Guilt? It must be exhausting...

    I'm exhausted just reading about it.
    It's certainly no more exhausting than keeping inflated the fantasy that everyone's hard work counts the same.
    Tell me about it...I took me a lot longer to get promoted simply due to not being the right flavor.
    Poor guy, I feel bad for you.
    You and those little Vietnamese kids working their fingers to the bone have so much in common.
    I hope you don't own anything made from China.
    I don't see the relevance to the discussion.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    muskydan said:

    rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    muskydan said:

    How do you guys live with yourselves w/ all this White Guilt? It must be exhausting...

    I'm exhausted just reading about it.
    It's certainly no more exhausting than keeping inflated the fantasy that everyone's hard work counts the same.
    Tell me about it...I took me a lot longer to get promoted simply due to not being the right flavor.
    Poor guy, I feel bad for you.
    You and those little Vietnamese kids working their fingers to the bone have so much in common.
    I hope you don't own anything made from China.
    I don't see the relevance to the discussion.
    They work very hard(Chinese) to make the products you most likely use everyday for very little pay. It goes along with what you said about wages and such.

    I hope that you only buy things made from places where wages are fair.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    The quality of many Chinese products is on a par with those poor wages.

    Suicide nets speak volumes.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    muskydan said:

    rgambs said:

    rr165892 said:

    muskydan said:

    How do you guys live with yourselves w/ all this White Guilt? It must be exhausting...

    I'm exhausted just reading about it.
    It's certainly no more exhausting than keeping inflated the fantasy that everyone's hard work counts the same.
    Tell me about it...I took me a lot longer to get promoted simply due to not being the right flavor.
    Poor guy, I feel bad for you.
    You and those little Vietnamese kids working their fingers to the bone have so much in common.
    I hope you don't own anything made from China.
    I don't see the relevance to the discussion.
    They work very hard(Chinese) to make the products you most likely use everyday for very little pay. It goes along with what you said about wages and such.

    I hope that you only buy things made from places where wages are fair.
    I understand all that but how is it relevant to a discussion on white privilege?? If anything, it corroborates the idea that we are born on third.
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