So let me get this straight... Bernie Sanders wants everything to be free socialist society. The "rich" people pay all the taxes and everyone gets to free load. Free college tuition so you can go to school and get degrees to further yourself, to get the better higher paying jobs, so you can get taxed at 90% after you start your great job???? Seriously?? The guy is just as nutty as Trump. He might not be labeled a biggot but he's still fucking nuts...
So let me get this straight... Bernie Sanders wants everything to be free socialist society. The "rich" people pay all the taxes and everyone gets to free load. Free college tuition so you can go to school and get degrees to further yourself, to get the better higher paying jobs, so you can get taxed at 90% after you start your great job???? Seriously?? The guy is just as nutty as Trump. He might not be labeled a biggot but he's still fucking nuts...
Is this a Trump quote?
It's not irrational. If you disagree, that's great. Say why. Hate to see another AMT thread go down the drain.
So let me get this straight... Bernie Sanders wants everything to be free socialist society. The "rich" people pay all the taxes and everyone gets to free load. Free college tuition so you can go to school and get degrees to further yourself, to get the better higher paying jobs, so you can get taxed at 90% after you start your great job???? Seriously?? The guy is just as nutty as Trump. He might not be labeled a biggot but he's still fucking nuts...
Is this a Trump quote?
No it's common sense. I didn't vote for Trump in the OH primary, and do not consider myself a Trump supporter at this time. I really wanted to vote for Rand Paul, but obviously that's not gonna happen...
So let me get this straight... Bernie Sanders wants everything to be free socialist society. The "rich" people pay all the taxes and everyone gets to free load. Free college tuition so you can go to school and get degrees to further yourself, to get the better higher paying jobs, so you can get taxed at 90% after you start your great job???? Seriously?? The guy is just as nutty as Trump. He might not be labeled a biggot but he's still fucking nuts...
Well, I think this is a bit hyperbolic, but there's an element of truth. And it's really the problem with the policies. When you start taxing people at 45% at 200k family incomes, you start losing voters. Starting with me. I've been saying for a long time that the issue is the cost of tuition. But I don't hear Elizabeth Warren railing against her former employer (Harvard) who charges 60k a year for tuition while it sits on a 37 BILLION dollar endowment. Where's the outrage there, Senators Warren and Sanders?
Agreed. Where's the cap on tuition fees?? Where is the regulation for misuse of college funding?? Why does a college football stadium need to have a movie theater and bowling alley?? Why the hell should a college president make more than a million dollars?? Because it's just another corporation with the same lawyers and lobbying for loop holes and greed...
Exactly! Schools have become these vacation lands with innumerable meal plan choices, beautiful quads, exercise facilities, etc.. Well it wasn't like that when I went to a 36k student public school in FL. I went to class and then went to work at a restaurant that night. That was life and it was tough. I could only take 9 hours a semester due to work so it took over five years to graduate. I'm sorry, I don't have a ton of sympathy for white middle class students today.
Exactly. I worked thru college as resident assistant 2.5 years in the dorm that I lived in. I lived in the dorm all 4 years, because I sure as hell couldn't afford an apartment. Had boatload of college loan debit after graduate school. How about reimbursement of my tuition and interest fees, plus compounded interest for my money. This whole free loader mentality is ridiculous. People don't want to contribute to society but want everything contributed to them. Free tuition, free healthcare, free whatever. And no one should disagree with any of it??? How about the fact that I need water to drink to survive as a human being, and that I "deserve" free clean drinking water coming out my faucet. I deserve free plumbing so my shit doesn't back up in my house (literally). How about free electric because I need to have power for my computers and to charge my iPad... The welfare system is broken in this country. Too much gaming of the system. So let's have more immigrants come in and jump on the bandwagon. The welfare system needs fixed to benefit the people who actually need it. The government is broken in this country, too much greed, lobbying, corruption. The whole thing needs fixed. Neither party has all the answers.
I don't think it needs to be blown up as some do. When you study history, there's scant evidence of any political system that has been more open, fair, inclusive or transparent than our current system of government. I'm not arguing that we don't continuously improve (hence, why I'm a Progressive), but not recognizing the positives in our existing system is shortsighted as well.
I don't think it needs to be blown up as some do. When you study history, there's scant evidence of any political system that has been more open, fair, inclusive or transparent than our current system of government. I'm not arguing that we don't continuously improve (hence, why I'm a Progressive), but not recognizing the positives in our existing system is shortsighted as well.
Sorry if I came across as that. Just think that there needs to be more oversight in government where people are held accountable and the corruption decreases. You can't just keep trying to fix problems by throwing money into programs that are flawed. Expansion of government is not the fix. Correct the problems, but that means stepping on some toes, not walking on egg shells...
I don't think it needs to be blown up as some do. When you study history, there's scant evidence of any political system that has been more open, fair, inclusive or transparent than our current system of government. I'm not arguing that we don't continuously improve (hence, why I'm a Progressive), but not recognizing the positives in our existing system is shortsighted as well.
Sorry if I came across as that. Just think that there needs to be more oversight in government where people are held accountable and the corruption decreases. You can't just keep trying to fix problems by throwing money into programs that are flawed. Expansion of government is not the fix. Correct the problems, but that means stepping on some toes, not walking on egg shells...
You didn't, but I hear this all the time from people. It's as if there is no historical perspective of where we are as a society, relative to other civilizations.
I don't think it needs to be blown up as some do. When you study history, there's scant evidence of any political system that has been more open, fair, inclusive or transparent than our current system of government. I'm not arguing that we don't continuously improve (hence, why I'm a Progressive), but not recognizing the positives in our existing system is shortsighted as well.
Agree M. Social security, Medicaid, AHC Tax rates. If all really wanted to make this country better we'd be able to do so much.
So let me get this straight... Bernie Sanders wants everything to be free socialist society. The "rich" people pay all the taxes and everyone gets to free load. Free college tuition so you can go to school and get degrees to further yourself, to get the better higher paying jobs, so you can get taxed at 90% after you start your great job???? Seriously?? The guy is just as nutty as Trump. He might not be labeled a biggot but he's still fucking nuts...
Well, I think this is a bit hyperbolic, but there's an element of truth. And it's really the problem with the policies. When you start taxing people at 45% at 200k family incomes, you start losing voters. Starting with me. I've been saying for a long time that the issue is the cost of tuition. But I don't hear Elizabeth Warren railing against her former employer (Harvard) who charges 60k a year for tuition while it sits on a 37 BILLION dollar endowment. Where's the outrage there, Senators Warren and Sanders?
Agreed. Where's the cap on tuition fees?? Where is the regulation for misuse of college funding?? Why does a college football stadium need to have a movie theater and bowling alley?? Why the hell should a college president make more than a million dollars?? Because it's just another corporation with the same lawyers and lobbying for loop holes and greed...
Exactly! Schools have become these vacation lands with innumerable meal plan choices, beautiful quads, exercise facilities, etc.. Well it wasn't like that when I went to a 36k student public school in FL. I went to class and then went to work at a restaurant that night. That was life and it was tough. I could only take 9 hours a semester due to work so it took over five years to graduate. I'm sorry, I don't have a ton of sympathy for white middle class students today.
Exactly. I worked thru college as resident assistant 2.5 years in the dorm that I lived in. I lived in the dorm all 4 years, because I sure as hell couldn't afford an apartment. Had boatload of college loan debit after graduate school. How about reimbursement of my tuition and interest fees, plus compounded interest for my money. This whole free loader mentality is ridiculous. People don't want to contribute to society but want everything contributed to them. Free tuition, free healthcare, free whatever. And no one should disagree with any of it??? How about the fact that I need water to drink to survive as a human being, and that I "deserve" free clean drinking water coming out my faucet. I deserve free plumbing so my shit doesn't back up in my house (literally). How about free electric because I need to have power for my computers and to charge my iPad... The welfare system is broken in this country. Too much gaming of the system. So let's have more immigrants come in and jump on the bandwagon. The welfare system needs fixed to benefit the people who actually need it. The government is broken in this country, too much greed, lobbying, corruption. The whole thing needs fixed. Neither party has all the answers.
I don't understand how wanting to not go 40K in debt for an education is asking for handouts? Last I checked going to school (especially finishing in 4 years as I did) is hard work. It is not being lazy. It doesnt make much sense to me to use the words wanting education and lazy in the same sentence. If we were lazy, we wouldn't give a damn about getting an education, we would just be flipping burgers.
So let me get this straight... Bernie Sanders wants everything to be free socialist society. The "rich" people pay all the taxes and everyone gets to free load. Free college tuition so you can go to school and get degrees to further yourself, to get the better higher paying jobs, so you can get taxed at 90% after you start your great job???? Seriously?? The guy is just as nutty as Trump. He might not be labeled a biggot but he's still fucking nuts...
Well, I think this is a bit hyperbolic, but there's an element of truth. And it's really the problem with the policies. When you start taxing people at 45% at 200k family incomes, you start losing voters. Starting with me. I've been saying for a long time that the issue is the cost of tuition. But I don't hear Elizabeth Warren railing against her former employer (Harvard) who charges 60k a year for tuition while it sits on a 37 BILLION dollar endowment. Where's the outrage there, Senators Warren and Sanders?
Agreed. Where's the cap on tuition fees?? Where is the regulation for misuse of college funding?? Why does a college football stadium need to have a movie theater and bowling alley?? Why the hell should a college president make more than a million dollars?? Because it's just another corporation with the same lawyers and lobbying for loop holes and greed...
Exactly! Schools have become these vacation lands with innumerable meal plan choices, beautiful quads, exercise facilities, etc.. Well it wasn't like that when I went to a 36k student public school in FL. I went to class and then went to work at a restaurant that night. That was life and it was tough. I could only take 9 hours a semester due to work so it took over five years to graduate. I'm sorry, I don't have a ton of sympathy for white middle class students today.
Exactly. I worked thru college as resident assistant 2.5 years in the dorm that I lived in. I lived in the dorm all 4 years, because I sure as hell couldn't afford an apartment. Had boatload of college loan debit after graduate school. How about reimbursement of my tuition and interest fees, plus compounded interest for my money. This whole free loader mentality is ridiculous. People don't want to contribute to society but want everything contributed to them. Free tuition, free healthcare, free whatever. And no one should disagree with any of it??? How about the fact that I need water to drink to survive as a human being, and that I "deserve" free clean drinking water coming out my faucet. I deserve free plumbing so my shit doesn't back up in my house (literally). How about free electric because I need to have power for my computers and to charge my iPad... The welfare system is broken in this country. Too much gaming of the system. So let's have more immigrants come in and jump on the bandwagon. The welfare system needs fixed to benefit the people who actually need it. The government is broken in this country, too much greed, lobbying, corruption. The whole thing needs fixed. Neither party has all the answers.
I don't understand how wanting to not go 40K in debt for an education is asking for handouts? Last I checked going to school (especially finishing in 4 years as I did) is hard work. It is not being lazy. It doesnt make much sense to me to use the words wanting education and lazy in the same sentence. If we were lazy, we wouldn't give a damn about getting an education, we would just be flipping burgers.
PP didn't say people were lazy. He's saying that he doesn't understand why some think that 'earners' should be taxed at a high rate in order for other to come out of college debt free. And my argument is that 1. the cost of tuition is the core issue 2. while getting out of school in four years is great, people need to evaluate if that's a good decision for them considering the debt load (vs. 2 years of JUCO, working while in school and taking less credits, etc.).
So let me get this straight... Bernie Sanders wants everything to be free socialist society. The "rich" people pay all the taxes and everyone gets to free load. Free college tuition so you can go to school and get degrees to further yourself, to get the better higher paying jobs, so you can get taxed at 90% after you start your great job???? Seriously?? The guy is just as nutty as Trump. He might not be labeled a biggot but he's still fucking nuts...
Well, I think this is a bit hyperbolic, but there's an element of truth. And it's really the problem with the policies. When you start taxing people at 45% at 200k family incomes, you start losing voters. Starting with me. I've been saying for a long time that the issue is the cost of tuition. But I don't hear Elizabeth Warren railing against her former employer (Harvard) who charges 60k a year for tuition while it sits on a 37 BILLION dollar endowment. Where's the outrage there, Senators Warren and Sanders?
Agreed. Where's the cap on tuition fees?? Where is the regulation for misuse of college funding?? Why does a college football stadium need to have a movie theater and bowling alley?? Why the hell should a college president make more than a million dollars?? Because it's just another corporation with the same lawyers and lobbying for loop holes and greed...
Exactly! Schools have become these vacation lands with innumerable meal plan choices, beautiful quads, exercise facilities, etc.. Well it wasn't like that when I went to a 36k student public school in FL. I went to class and then went to work at a restaurant that night. That was life and it was tough. I could only take 9 hours a semester due to work so it took over five years to graduate. I'm sorry, I don't have a ton of sympathy for white middle class students today.
Exactly. I worked thru college as resident assistant 2.5 years in the dorm that I lived in. I lived in the dorm all 4 years, because I sure as hell couldn't afford an apartment. Had boatload of college loan debit after graduate school. How about reimbursement of my tuition and interest fees, plus compounded interest for my money. This whole free loader mentality is ridiculous. People don't want to contribute to society but want everything contributed to them. Free tuition, free healthcare, free whatever. And no one should disagree with any of it??? How about the fact that I need water to drink to survive as a human being, and that I "deserve" free clean drinking water coming out my faucet. I deserve free plumbing so my shit doesn't back up in my house (literally). How about free electric because I need to have power for my computers and to charge my iPad... The welfare system is broken in this country. Too much gaming of the system. So let's have more immigrants come in and jump on the bandwagon. The welfare system needs fixed to benefit the people who actually need it. The government is broken in this country, too much greed, lobbying, corruption. The whole thing needs fixed. Neither party has all the answers.
I don't understand how wanting to not go 40K in debt for an education is asking for handouts? Last I checked going to school (especially finishing in 4 years as I did) is hard work. It is not being lazy. It doesnt make much sense to me to use the words wanting education and lazy in the same sentence. If we were lazy, we wouldn't give a damn about getting an education, we would just be flipping burgers.
Asking for free college tuition and having someone else pay for It is not fixing the problem of outrageous costs to benefit college administrators. Fix the problems, not avoid the problems and make others pay the price. I didn't call anyone lazy. I know how difficult it is do go through higher education. Been through it. All I hear from the rhetoric is that we need to tax more to make things affordable for everyone, instead of putting caps on tuition and administrative salaries. Oh, and 40k in debit is a drop in the bucket for the costs I incurred in loans thru school... So sure. Reimburse me the close to 250k in my education costs plus interest and I will not complain about taxing me more for free tuition for the oh so deprived students today....
So let me get this straight... Bernie Sanders wants everything to be free socialist society. The "rich" people pay all the taxes and everyone gets to free load. Free college tuition so you can go to school and get degrees to further yourself, to get the better higher paying jobs, so you can get taxed at 90% after you start your great job???? Seriously?? The guy is just as nutty as Trump. He might not be labeled a biggot but he's still fucking nuts...
You don't have it straight at all. It's funny to me that so many Americans think this while so many democratic countries successfully do the things that Bernie suggests. Do you guys purposefully spread propaganda on this point, or do you seriously believe this dumb shit?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
So let me get this straight... Bernie Sanders wants everything to be free socialist society. The "rich" people pay all the taxes and everyone gets to free load. Free college tuition so you can go to school and get degrees to further yourself, to get the better higher paying jobs, so you can get taxed at 90% after you start your great job???? Seriously?? The guy is just as nutty as Trump. He might not be labeled a biggot but he's still fucking nuts...
Is this a Trump quote?
No it's common sense. I didn't vote for Trump in the OH primary, and do not consider myself a Trump supporter at this time. I really wanted to vote for Rand Paul, but obviously that's not gonna happen...
Try learning something before making decisions.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
So let me get this straight... Bernie Sanders wants everything to be free socialist society. The "rich" people pay all the taxes and everyone gets to free load. Free college tuition so you can go to school and get degrees to further yourself, to get the better higher paying jobs, so you can get taxed at 90% after you start your great job???? Seriously?? The guy is just as nutty as Trump. He might not be labeled a biggot but he's still fucking nuts...
Well, I think this is a bit hyperbolic, but there's an element of truth. And it's really the problem with the policies. When you start taxing people at 45% at 200k family incomes, you start losing voters. Starting with me. I've been saying for a long time that the issue is the cost of tuition. But I don't hear Elizabeth Warren railing against her former employer (Harvard) who charges 60k a year for tuition while it sits on a 37 BILLION dollar endowment. Where's the outrage there, Senators Warren and Sanders?
Agreed. Where's the cap on tuition fees?? Where is the regulation for misuse of college funding?? Why does a college football stadium need to have a movie theater and bowling alley?? Why the hell should a college president make more than a million dollars?? Because it's just another corporation with the same lawyers and lobbying for loop holes and greed...
Exactly! Schools have become these vacation lands with innumerable meal plan choices, beautiful quads, exercise facilities, etc.. Well it wasn't like that when I went to a 36k student public school in FL. I went to class and then went to work at a restaurant that night. That was life and it was tough. I could only take 9 hours a semester due to work so it took over five years to graduate. I'm sorry, I don't have a ton of sympathy for white middle class students today.
Exactly. I worked thru college as resident assistant 2.5 years in the dorm that I lived in. I lived in the dorm all 4 years, because I sure as hell couldn't afford an apartment. Had boatload of college loan debit after graduate school. How about reimbursement of my tuition and interest fees, plus compounded interest for my money. This whole free loader mentality is ridiculous. People don't want to contribute to society but want everything contributed to them. Free tuition, free healthcare, free whatever. And no one should disagree with any of it??? How about the fact that I need water to drink to survive as a human being, and that I "deserve" free clean drinking water coming out my faucet. I deserve free plumbing so my shit doesn't back up in my house (literally). How about free electric because I need to have power for my computers and to charge my iPad... The welfare system is broken in this country. Too much gaming of the system. So let's have more immigrants come in and jump on the bandwagon. The welfare system needs fixed to benefit the people who actually need it. The government is broken in this country, too much greed, lobbying, corruption. The whole thing needs fixed. Neither party has all the answers.
I don't understand how wanting to not go 40K in debt for an education is asking for handouts? Last I checked going to school (especially finishing in 4 years as I did) is hard work. It is not being lazy. It doesnt make much sense to me to use the words wanting education and lazy in the same sentence. If we were lazy, we wouldn't give a damn about getting an education, we would just be flipping burgers.
Going to college and not doing it with a full time job is easy. Comparatively. As did Mrusselll, I paid as I went. Took a while. Would of loved having four years out of high school to focus exclusively on school.
Great points on colleges now being corporations. Need to drop all sports. Football. Basketball. All marketing waste.
So let me get this straight... Bernie Sanders wants everything to be free socialist society. The "rich" people pay all the taxes and everyone gets to free load. Free college tuition so you can go to school and get degrees to further yourself, to get the better higher paying jobs, so you can get taxed at 90% after you start your great job???? Seriously?? The guy is just as nutty as Trump. He might not be labeled a biggot but he's still fucking nuts...
You don't have it straight at all. It's funny to me that so many Americans think this while so many democratic countries successfully do the things that Bernie suggests. Do you guys purposefully spread propaganda on this point, or do you seriously believe this dumb shit?
So teach me oh wise one. Please explain to me how Bernie Sanders and socialism are the best things on the planet... Instead of criticizing people for their opinions, offer other meaningful discussion. But it's just the same from the crazy left and right all the time. Common sense goes out the door.
So let me get this straight... Bernie Sanders wants everything to be free socialist society. The "rich" people pay all the taxes and everyone gets to free load. Free college tuition so you can go to school and get degrees to further yourself, to get the better higher paying jobs, so you can get taxed at 90% after you start your great job???? Seriously?? The guy is just as nutty as Trump. He might not be labeled a biggot but he's still fucking nuts...
You don't have it straight at all. It's funny to me that so many Americans think this while so many democratic countries successfully do the things that Bernie suggests. Do you guys purposefully spread propaganda on this point, or do you seriously believe this dumb shit?
So teach me oh wise one. Please explain to me how Bernie Sanders and socialism are the best things on the planet... Instead of criticizing people for their opinions, offer other meaningful discussion. But it's just the same from the crazy left and right all the time. Common sense goes out the door.
Seriously? This has already been explained here over and over and over and over again. Why in the fuck should we keep repeating ourselves because you are too lazy or too willfully ignorant to pay any attention? Also, he's not a socialist.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
So let me get this straight... Bernie Sanders wants everything to be free socialist society. The "rich" people pay all the taxes and everyone gets to free load. Free college tuition so you can go to school and get degrees to further yourself, to get the better higher paying jobs, so you can get taxed at 90% after you start your great job???? Seriously?? The guy is just as nutty as Trump. He might not be labeled a biggot but he's still fucking nuts...
Well, I think this is a bit hyperbolic, but there's an element of truth. And it's really the problem with the policies. When you start taxing people at 45% at 200k family incomes, you start losing voters. Starting with me. I've been saying for a long time that the issue is the cost of tuition. But I don't hear Elizabeth Warren railing against her former employer (Harvard) who charges 60k a year for tuition while it sits on a 37 BILLION dollar endowment. Where's the outrage there, Senators Warren and Sanders?
Agreed. Where's the cap on tuition fees?? Where is the regulation for misuse of college funding?? Why does a college football stadium need to have a movie theater and bowling alley?? Why the hell should a college president make more than a million dollars?? Because it's just another corporation with the same lawyers and lobbying for loop holes and greed...
Exactly! Schools have become these vacation lands with innumerable meal plan choices, beautiful quads, exercise facilities, etc.. Well it wasn't like that when I went to a 36k student public school in FL. I went to class and then went to work at a restaurant that night. That was life and it was tough. I could only take 9 hours a semester due to work so it took over five years to graduate. I'm sorry, I don't have a ton of sympathy for white middle class students today.
Exactly. I worked thru college as resident assistant 2.5 years in the dorm that I lived in. I lived in the dorm all 4 years, because I sure as hell couldn't afford an apartment. Had boatload of college loan debit after graduate school. How about reimbursement of my tuition and interest fees, plus compounded interest for my money. This whole free loader mentality is ridiculous. People don't want to contribute to society but want everything contributed to them. Free tuition, free healthcare, free whatever. And no one should disagree with any of it??? How about the fact that I need water to drink to survive as a human being, and that I "deserve" free clean drinking water coming out my faucet. I deserve free plumbing so my shit doesn't back up in my house (literally). How about free electric because I need to have power for my computers and to charge my iPad... The welfare system is broken in this country. Too much gaming of the system. So let's have more immigrants come in and jump on the bandwagon. The welfare system needs fixed to benefit the people who actually need it. The government is broken in this country, too much greed, lobbying, corruption. The whole thing needs fixed. Neither party has all the answers.
I don't understand how wanting to not go 40K in debt for an education is asking for handouts? Last I checked going to school (especially finishing in 4 years as I did) is hard work. It is not being lazy. It doesnt make much sense to me to use the words wanting education and lazy in the same sentence. If we were lazy, we wouldn't give a damn about getting an education, we would just be flipping burgers.
Going to college and not doing it with a full time job is easy. Comparatively. As did Mrusselll, I paid as I went. Took a while. Would of loved having four years out of high school to focus exclusively on school.
Great points on colleges now being corporations. Need to drop all sports. Football. Basketball. All marketing waste.
Colleges (the big ones) are all big businesses. It's about making money first and education second...
So let me get this straight... Bernie Sanders wants everything to be free socialist society. The "rich" people pay all the taxes and everyone gets to free load. Free college tuition so you can go to school and get degrees to further yourself, to get the better higher paying jobs, so you can get taxed at 90% after you start your great job???? Seriously?? The guy is just as nutty as Trump. He might not be labeled a biggot but he's still fucking nuts...
You don't have it straight at all. It's funny to me that so many Americans think this while so many democratic countries successfully do the things that Bernie suggests. Do you guys purposefully spread propaganda on this point, or do you seriously believe this dumb shit?
So teach me oh wise one. Please explain to me how Bernie Sanders and socialism are the best things on the planet... Instead of criticizing people for their opinions, offer other meaningful discussion. But it's just the same from the crazy left and right all the time. Common sense goes out the door.
Seriously? This has already been explained here over and over and over and over again. Why in the fuck should we keep repeating ourselves because you are too lazy or too willfully ignorant to pay any attention? Also, he's not a socialist.
The issue is 'shock to the system'. You can't integrate these types of programs into an economic system without shocking it. Businesses are still figuring out obamacare.
We've had free tuition in this country through the GI bill and even in NY in the past. I'm open to barebones, JUCO type education. But it drives me apeshit when I hear Bernie rail against the financial system and not the education system, who are the ones charging the exorbitant prices.
So why don't you give 90% of your salary away to Canadian government and see how you like it??
Where are you getting 90%? Out of your butt? Sanders is proposing much of what Canada already does. His plans seem pretty normal to us.
Yes out my butt. That number is not correct. I will not talk numbers like that again.
You promise? Say it. Say you promise.
No more perpetuating silly made up numbers. I thought the 90% argument was long since put to bed.
Yes. No more silly numbers. We need to insist that our government fixes the problems, not just throw more money at them hoping they will eventually fix themselves...
So let me get this straight... Bernie Sanders wants everything to be free socialist society. The "rich" people pay all the taxes and everyone gets to free load. Free college tuition so you can go to school and get degrees to further yourself, to get the better higher paying jobs, so you can get taxed at 90% after you start your great job???? Seriously?? The guy is just as nutty as Trump. He might not be labeled a biggot but he's still fucking nuts...
Is this a Trump quote?
No it's common sense. I didn't vote for Trump in the OH primary, and do not consider myself a Trump supporter at this time. I really wanted to vote for Rand Paul, but obviously that's not gonna happen...
It is a childishly simplified misrepresentation of what Bernie is offering and what his supporters are looking for.
"Bernie Sanders wants everything to be free socialist society." "Everyone gets to freeload"
How can you criticize "the crazy left and right" and say "common sense goes out the door" while you use exclusively extreme right wing language to criticize a candidate you clearly don't understand.
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The welfare system is broken in this country. Too much gaming of the system. So let's have more immigrants come in and jump on the bandwagon. The welfare system needs fixed to benefit the people who actually need it. The government is broken in this country, too much greed, lobbying, corruption. The whole thing needs fixed. Neither party has all the answers.
Oh, and 40k in debit is a drop in the bucket for the costs I incurred in loans thru school... So sure. Reimburse me the close to 250k in my education costs plus interest and I will not complain about taxing me more for free tuition for the oh so deprived students today....
It's funny to me that so many Americans think this while so many democratic countries successfully do the things that Bernie suggests. Do you guys purposefully spread propaganda on this point, or do you seriously believe this dumb shit?
Great points on colleges now being corporations. Need to drop all sports. Football. Basketball. All marketing waste.
Also, he's not a socialist.
Sanders is proposing much of what Canada already does. His plans seem pretty normal to us.
We've had free tuition in this country through the GI bill and even in NY in the past. I'm open to barebones, JUCO type education. But it drives me apeshit when I hear Bernie rail against the financial system and not the education system, who are the ones charging the exorbitant prices.
No more perpetuating silly made up numbers. I thought the 90% argument was long since put to bed.
"Bernie Sanders wants everything to be free socialist society."
"Everyone gets to freeload"
How can you criticize "the crazy left and right" and say "common sense goes out the door" while you use exclusively extreme right wing language to criticize a candidate you clearly don't understand.