I cannot help but think about the Mortal Kombat voice saying "Round 2...Fight". Surprised no one has made a remake with the current candidates, that might be a game I'd actually buy, ha
Will most definitely vote for Trump over Hildabeast. I'm not so sure she is the lesser of the evils...she's just been in politics longer. I'm somewhat considering Trump as a protest in and of himself. A protest against career politicians, super packs, establishment. As much as I dislike the dude as a person, he may be the wake up call Washington needs to help the career politicians wake up and change their strategies. I love that all these assholes are flushing corporate money down the drain running against a "mostly" self funded candidate. I was really hoping it would boil down to a Trump vs Bernie campaign (though I have a few idealogical differences with a Democrat Socialist), but anyone that will drag Hillary through the mud has my support. Who knows, maybe this is exactly what we need to dissolve this payed for two party dynasty system in future elections.
Sure, and maybe it will dissolve into a dictatorship, but who cares Hilary sucks right? Fight the man!
Dissolve into a dictatorship? That is the funniest thing I've read all day from someone supporting big government. You are starting to sound like the fearmongers you so adamantly appose. And yes, Hillary SUCKS, just not as well as Lewenski evidently.
Oops, forgot to add an emoji at the end...does that help one appear "smarter"?
Duhhhhhh, it's about equal to the likelihood of him dissolving the monied 2 party system. Which is to say it is pretty unlikely.
Will most definitely vote for Trump over Hildabeast. I'm not so sure she is the lesser of the evils...she's just been in politics longer. I'm somewhat considering Trump as a protest in and of himself. A protest against career politicians, super packs, establishment. As much as I dislike the dude as a person, he may be the wake up call Washington needs to help the career politicians wake up and change their strategies. I love that all these assholes are flushing corporate money down the drain running against a "mostly" self funded candidate. I was really hoping it would boil down to a Trump vs Bernie campaign (though I have a few idealogical differences with a Democrat Socialist), but anyone that will drag Hillary through the mud has my support. Who knows, maybe this is exactly what we need to dissolve this payed for two party dynasty system in future elections.
Sure, and maybe it will dissolve into a dictatorship, but who cares Hilary sucks right? Fight the man!
Dissolve into a dictatorship? That is the funniest thing I've read all day from someone supporting big government. You are starting to sound like the fearmongers you so adamantly appose. And yes, Hillary SUCKS, just not as well as Lewenski evidently.
Oops, forgot to add an emoji at the end...does that help one appear "smarter"?
Duhhhhhh, it's about equal to the likelihood of him dissolving the monied 2 party system. Which is to say it is pretty unlikely.
Have you not kept up with things lately? Bernie and Trump have both done wonders in the way of disolving the two establishment parties and their rhetoric. Both of them should have the balls to run 3rd party, wouldn't that be something
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Still feeling the Bern to the end, there's a long way to still go.
Still feeling it here too, Free, despite a brief lapse in despondency last night. And shame on me! It's not over. And no, JC29856, this is not an example of having "the spine of a wet loaf of bread and the courage of a drone operator". It's an example of continuing the work toward that which we believe is best. What do you want us to say? Oh, we give up, throw in the towel? No way. Presidential Primary 2.0 might just blow away all of that negative thinking., We will sure as hell give it a shot.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Still feeling the Bern to the end, there's a long way to still go.
Still feeling it here too, Free, despite a brief lapse in despondency last night. And shame on me! It's not over. And no, JC29856, this is not an example of having "the spine of a wet loaf of bread and the courage of a drone operator". It's an example of continuing the work toward that which we believe is best. What do you want us to say? Oh, we give up, throw in the towel? No way. Presidential Primary 2.0 might just blow away all of that negative thinking., We will sure as hell give it a shot.
Nothing wrong with continuing a fight for a cause or "revolution" that you believe in. I would do the same.
The donald and Hilary working together?? Come on people that is just wack..
"Going where the water tastes like wine!"
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Barring a debilitating Clinton scandal...it's over.
That doesn't mean Bernie needs to get out. He is well funded and has an important message. He will continue to get votes. Just because the DNC and the Democratic Establishment have installed Hillary doesn't mean Left-leaning voters should have no alternative.
Keeping the hope alive for Bernie..... he will win many of the upcoming primaries... who knows what can happen in the next few months. Once the RNC machine ramps up on Hillary it's going to get real nasty. they have their hands full with Trump right now.
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
History shows the candidate with the early lead doesn't always win.
Nice video, but Bye Bye Bernie
Scared.
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It's not over. This from Bernie:
"When we started our campaign 10 months ago... I don't think you could find a single person who would believe you if you said Bernie Sanders would win nine states by this point in the campaign.
Last night we beat all the polls in almost every state. We earned a significant number of delegates, and are on track for the nomination. Here's why:
What you will not hear from the political and media establishment is that, based on the primary and caucus schedule for the rest of the race, this is the high water mark for the Clinton campaign. Starting today, the map now shifts dramatically in our favor.
Arizona, Idaho, and Utah are up next Tuesday. Alaska, Hawaii, and Washington State caucus the Saturday after. Then it's Wisconsin's turn to vote.
That means we have an extremely good chance to win nearly every state that votes in the next month. If we continue to stand together, we're just getting started for our political revolution."
Not throwing in the towel!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
What states did Bernie do better in on Tuesday than the polls indicated?
I'm troubled by this statement. You don't win the nomination by beating polls. You don't earn delegates by chasing windmills in the media. You need to win states.
Bernie had 5 chances to do that on Tuesday. 0-5. That isn't the fault of the polls or the media.
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"...I changed by not changing at all..."
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brianlux
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Jimmy, you also don't win by quitting.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
As to Bernie staying in, he does have a chance, it's good for Democratics to keep in headlines and it furthers his message. And that lingering Clinton issue.
What states did Bernie do better in on Tuesday than the polls indicated?
I'm troubled by this statement. You don't win the nomination by beating polls. You don't earn delegates by chasing windmills in the media. You need to win states.
Bernie had 5 chances to do that on Tuesday. 0-5. That isn't the fault of the polls or the media.
If the American public are fools for Clinton and trump they are fools flummoxed by polls and media, no doubt.
What states did Bernie do better in on Tuesday than the polls indicated?
I'm troubled by this statement. You don't win the nomination by beating polls. You don't earn delegates by chasing windmills in the media. You need to win states.
Bernie had 5 chances to do that on Tuesday. 0-5. That isn't the fault of the polls or the media.
If the American public are fools for Clinton and trump they are fools flummoxed by polls and media, no doubt.
What states did Bernie do better in on Tuesday than the polls indicated?
I'm troubled by this statement. You don't win the nomination by beating polls. You don't earn delegates by chasing windmills in the media. You need to win states.
Bernie had 5 chances to do that on Tuesday. 0-5. That isn't the fault of the polls or the media.
If the American public are fools for Clinton and trump they are fools flummoxed by polls and media, no doubt.
I agree. "When they own the information...oooh they can bend it all they want"~~John Mayer
The crazy thing to me about the Republicans, not just in Congress but all over the country, is that they had 8 full years of bitching and complaining about Obama and kept claiming how things would be different once they got a Republican in there--yet when the time came for them to choose candidates, they had almost 20 of them to start with?!! How unorganized is that? And then they bitched about Trump getting so far when they let it happen?--craziness. They've had all this time to get their shit together for this election and look what they've done with it.
I appreciate Bernie's honesty more than anything. But reading that statement...for the first time...I have doubts.
TBH, I think that suggests that you were ready to turn anyhow, and were just waiting for some reason to do it, because there isn't really anything wrong with that statement at all IMO.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I appreciate Bernie's honesty more than anything. But reading that statement...for the first time...I have doubts.
TBH, I think that suggests that you were ready to turn anyhow, and were just waiting for some reason to do it, because there isn't really anything wrong with that statement at all IMO.
I'm not sure what "turn" is supposed to mean here.
The statement isn't really reflective of reality and that is a problem. The candidate himself said he was going to win Ohio and didn't. Many of us - myself included - had high hopes for Illinois and Missouri, too. None of that came to pass. Pointing fingers at the polls and the media after that disappointing performance rings hollow to me and stinks of dishonesty. We see candidates make excuses all the time but I had higher hopes for Bernie. Like I said the thing that most drew me to Sanders was his honesty. Reading that statement left me feeling disappointed.
I appreciate Bernie's honesty more than anything. But reading that statement...for the first time...I have doubts.
TBH, I think that suggests that you were ready to turn anyhow, and were just waiting for some reason to do it, because there isn't really anything wrong with that statement at all IMO.
I agree, I understand that Bernie is the underdog but he's not as mathematically eliminated as you are hung on him being. I am not going to lay out a path to victory, but there are multiple routes that could get him there. He took Michigan, if he can do that he has a fighting chance. There is also the baggage Hilary has, if she get's indicted in June you will be glad as he'll that Bernie Sanders stuck it out. He is simply not beaten yet and giving up is just foolish. There is no advantage to the party for him to drop out, Hilary will always be flush with cash and we have the electoral advantage.
Some of you are misunderstanding. I have not called for nor do I expect Sanders to drop out. I dug up the dates yesterday. Hillary didn't drop out until June 7, 2008. Sanders is under no obligation to drop out now.
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
Some of you are misunderstanding. I have not called for nor do I expect Sanders to drop out. I dug up the dates yesterday. Hillary didn't drop out until June 7, 2008. Sanders is under no obligation to drop out now.
I didn't mean to say that you think he's under that obligation. I just thought it sounded like you are kind of searching for negatives when it comes to Bernie, so that tiny little things that I would consider meaningless are catching your attention enough for you to at least consider changing your feelings about him as a politician, about his honesty, etc. Maybe I'm wrong - it's just what it sounded like.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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The donald and Hilary working together?? Come on people that is just wack..
http://usuncut.com/politics/robert-reich/
That doesn't mean Bernie needs to get out. He is well funded and has an important message. He will continue to get votes. Just because the DNC and the Democratic Establishment have installed Hillary doesn't mean Left-leaning voters should have no alternative.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
he will win many of the upcoming primaries...
who knows what can happen in the next few months.
Once the RNC machine ramps up on Hillary it's going to get real nasty.
they have their hands full with Trump right now.
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1995- New Orleans, LA : New Orleans, LA
1996- Charleston, SC
1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY
2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2
2020- Nashville, TN
2022- Smashville
2023- Austin, TX x2
2024- Baltimore
History shows the candidate with the early lead doesn't always win.
The Sanders Speech the media wouldn't show you last night (because looking at an empty podium waiting for Drumpf was so spellbinding)
"When we started our campaign 10 months ago... I don't think you could find a
single person who would believe you if you said Bernie Sanders would win nine states
by this point in the campaign.
Last night we beat all the polls in almost every state. We earned a significant
number of delegates, and are on track for the nomination. Here's why:
What you will not hear from the political and media establishment is that, based on
the primary and caucus schedule for the rest of the race, this is the high water
mark for the Clinton campaign. Starting today, the map now shifts dramatically in
our favor.
Arizona, Idaho, and Utah are up next Tuesday. Alaska, Hawaii, and Washington State
caucus the Saturday after. Then it's Wisconsin's turn to vote.
That means we have an extremely good chance to win nearly every state that votes in
the next month. If we continue to stand together, we're just getting started for our
political revolution."
Not throwing in the towel!
I'm troubled by this statement. You don't win the nomination by beating polls. You don't earn delegates by chasing windmills in the media. You need to win states.
Bernie had 5 chances to do that on Tuesday. 0-5. That isn't the fault of the polls or the media.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
As to Bernie staying in, he does have a chance, it's good for Democratics to keep in headlines and it furthers his message. And that lingering Clinton issue.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
The crazy thing to me about the Republicans, not just in Congress but all over the country, is that they had 8 full years of bitching and complaining about Obama and kept claiming how things would be different once they got a Republican in there--yet when the time came for them to choose candidates, they had almost 20 of them to start with?!! How unorganized is that? And then they bitched about Trump getting so far when they let it happen?--craziness. They've had all this time to get their shit together for this election and look what they've done with it.
The statement isn't really reflective of reality and that is a problem. The candidate himself said he was going to win Ohio and didn't. Many of us - myself included - had high hopes for Illinois and Missouri, too. None of that came to pass. Pointing fingers at the polls and the media after that disappointing performance rings hollow to me and stinks of dishonesty. We see candidates make excuses all the time but I had higher hopes for Bernie. Like I said the thing that most drew me to Sanders was his honesty. Reading that statement left me feeling disappointed.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
There is also the baggage Hilary has, if she get's indicted in June you will be glad as he'll that Bernie Sanders stuck it out. He is simply not beaten yet and giving up is just foolish. There is no advantage to the party for him to drop out, Hilary will always be flush with cash and we have the electoral advantage.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
you can take that to the bank (or wall street)!!!!
livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=446
1995- New Orleans, LA : New Orleans, LA
1996- Charleston, SC
1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN
2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN
2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA
2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY
2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2
2020- Nashville, TN
2022- Smashville
2023- Austin, TX x2
2024- Baltimore