Bernie was behind Hillary by quite a bit just a week ago. He won last night. We're on a roll. Keep on rollin'!
Hillary won more delegates last night.
This race was not expected to go the way it did. It's clearly a victory for Bernie.
We're on a roll. Roll with us!
Yeah! I'm hoping this victory means that people in Illinois and Ohio will see it and go "wait a minute, polls can be wrong! I'm going to go out and vote for Bernie even though the news is trying to tell me I'm wasting my time."
I honestly think he could have gotten 10+ more delegates from Michigan if the polls would have been more honest, how many people stayed home becuase they thought Bernie didn't stand a chance?
Bernie was behind Hillary by quite a bit just a week ago. He won last night. We're on a roll. Keep on rollin'!
Hillary won more delegates last night.
This race was not expected to go the way it did. It's clearly a victory for Bernie.
We're on a roll. Roll with us!
Yeah! I'm hoping this victory means that people in Illinois and Ohio will see it and go "wait a minute, polls can be wrong! I'm going to go out and vote for Bernie even though the news is trying to tell me I'm wasting my time."
I honestly think he could have gotten 10+ more delegates from Michigan if the polls would have been more honest, how many people stayed home becuase they thought Bernie didn't stand a chance?
The media has it out for Bernie but all the media cares about anymore is money so if Bernie can keep turning up surprises and making news, perhaps even media will start to work in his favor. And things like Facebook help too. That's were the younger generations get a lot of information and young voters went over 80% for Bernie in Michigan.
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Just saw my first Bernie TV ad since the SC primary. looks like Bernie is targeting NC more than I thought he would. he has a lot of support in our part of the state... haven't seen any polls in the Eastern cities. He has the momentum to take OHIO and I don't trust the polls in Florida... who would???
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Bernie won Michigan by a couple of percentage points. Michigan is not a winner take all state. He gets just over half of Michigans delegates. Hillary won Mississippi by more then 60 points. Overall Hillary won way more delegates yesterday. Bernie actually lost ground in the overall delegate count.
Good for Bernie but may not matter in the long run.
Democratic pledged delegates Clinton 768 32.2% of the way to the nomination Sanders 553 23.2% *edited due to bad copy/paste job
2383 delegates needed to win. 28% of delegates allocated so far. *This count excludes superdelegates
Aside from the delegate count, let's talk general election. Hillary has won most of the South, however, these are Republican states. Sanders has won mostly Dem states. Showing that Hillary can win republican states, what does this say as a general election Dem candidate? Nothing really. She's not a republican! (well, ok, she's kind of a closet republican)... It shows that Sanders can win against the Rep. candidate, for Sure.
Bernie won Michigan by a couple of percentage points. Michigan is not a winner take all state. He gets just over half of Michigans delegates. Hillary won Mississippi by more then 60 points. Overall Hillary won way more delegates yesterday. Bernie actually lost ground in the overall delegate count.
Good for Bernie but may not matter in the long run.
Democratic pledged delegates Clinton 768 32.2% of the way to the nomination Sanders 768 23.2%
2383 delegates needed to win. 28% of delegates allocated so far. *This count excludes superdelegates
Aside from the delegate count, let's talk general election. Hillary has won most of the South, however, these are Republican states. Sanders has won mostly Dem states. Showing that Hillary can win republican states, what does this say as a general election Dem candidate? Nothing really. She's not a republican! (well, ok, she's kind of a closet republican)... It shows that Sanders can win against the Rep. candidate, for Sure.
Don't know where you get your numbers but according to politico.com and other sources Hillary has 1221 delegates (including 471 super delegates) and Bernie has 571 (including 25 super delegates ).
Bernie won Michigan by a couple of percentage points. Michigan is not a winner take all state. He gets just over half of Michigans delegates. Hillary won Mississippi by more then 60 points. Overall Hillary won way more delegates yesterday. Bernie actually lost ground in the overall delegate count.
Good for Bernie but may not matter in the long run.
Democratic pledged delegates Clinton 768 32.2% of the way to the nomination Sanders 768 23.2%
2383 delegates needed to win. 28% of delegates allocated so far. *This count excludes superdelegates
Aside from the delegate count, let's talk general election. Hillary has won most of the South, however, these are Republican states. Sanders has won mostly Dem states. Showing that Hillary can win republican states, what does this say as a general election Dem candidate? Nothing really. She's not a republican! (well, ok, she's kind of a closet republican)... It shows that Sanders can win against the Rep. candidate, for Sure.
Don't know where you get your numbers but according to politico.com and other sources Hillary has 1221 delegates (including 471 super delegates) and Bernie has 571 (including 25 super delegates ).
Yeah, I just read that the media has been including the superdelegate number in her favor when they are not actually hers to keep (they change, see my last post in Dem candidates thread).
(...Also, there’s one key difference in the Democratic process: superdelegates. These are over 700 party members who are free to vote for whomever they choose. We’ve excluded them from this tracker because superdelegates are free to change their minds, and because they’ve never swung the nomination away from the winner of pledged delegates. So if, say, Bernie Sanders won a plurality of pledged delegates, there would be intense pressure on superdelegates not to override the will of the voters. However, just keep in mind that superdelegates are overwhelmingly supporting Clinton this year, so her lead may turn out to be even bigger than it currently looks.)
Oh wait! Just noticed my error in copying / pasting the post you quoted for # of delegates. From article: Hillary 768 Bernie 553.
Clinton Benefits From US Media’s Misleading Reporting Of Delegate Counts
The vast majority of U.S. establishment media organizations report Democratic Party “super delegates,” as if they are part of the delegate totals presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are winning in primaries. However, this is incredibly misleading, and whether intended or not, it essentially serves to strengthen Clinton’s campaign against Sanders....
I would love to see what this election would look like without the HRC machine grinding so hard against him. It is not a level playing field and he still is right there.
I would love to see what this election would look like without the HRC machine grinding so hard against him. It is not a level playing field and he still is right there.
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2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA
(...Also, there’s one key difference in the Democratic process: superdelegates. These are over 700 party members who are free to vote for whomever they choose. We’ve excluded them from this tracker because superdelegates are free to change their minds, and because they’ve never swung the nomination away from the winner of pledged delegates. So if, say, Bernie Sanders won a plurality of pledged delegates, there would be intense pressure on superdelegates not to override the will of the voters. However, just keep in mind that superdelegates are overwhelmingly supporting Clinton this year, so her lead may turn out to be even bigger than it currently looks.)
But isn't the whole purpose of this corrupt superdelegate system to deal with a situation precisely as this one? They literally invented it to defeat a non establishment candidate should the need ever arise (yeah yeah that's not why it was invented, sure). It seems the fact that it hasn't happened before says more about the type of primary candidates over the last 30 years than any immutable precedence. Not saying they won't flip, but the notion that they won't based on the singular fact that they never have, doesn't seem valid.
sitting in front of the auditorium theater as we speak awaiting the Berns arrival. A crowd of roughly 3500 waiting to get in. There are Zero Trump people here acting like savages trying to"shut shit down". Got a few more FREE buttons to add 2 my collection. Should be real interesting to see what happens in Illinois tomr.
sitting in front of the auditorium theater as we speak awaiting the Berns arrival. A crowd of roughly 3500 waiting to get in. There are Zero Trump people here acting like savages trying to"shut shit down". Got a few more FREE buttons to add 2 my collection. Should be real interesting to see what happens in Illinois tomr.
Fuck I laugh at your posts.
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sitting in front of the auditorium theater as we speak awaiting the Berns arrival. A crowd of roughly 3500 waiting to get in. There are Zero Trump people here acting like savages trying to"shut shit down". Got a few more FREE buttons to add 2 my collection. Should be real interesting to see what happens in Illinois tomr.
Probably because Sanders has proven to not be a hateful man. What is there to feel the need to shut down? Nothing.
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sitting in front of the auditorium theater as we speak awaiting the Berns arrival. A crowd of roughly 3500 waiting to get in. There are Zero Trump people here acting like savages trying to"shut shit down". Got a few more FREE buttons to add 2 my collection. Should be real interesting to see what happens in Illinois tomr.
sitting in front of the auditorium theater as we speak awaiting the Berns arrival. A crowd of roughly 3500 waiting to get in. There are Zero Trump people here acting like savages trying to"shut shit down". Got a few more FREE buttons to add 2 my collection. Should be real interesting to see what happens in Illinois tomr.
Probably because Sanders has proven to not be a hateful man. What is there to feel the need to shut down? Nothing.
Good point. But I am going to go w/ they are so High on Dope and the promises of all the free stuff our favorite socialist is promising. There are lots and lots of young people here... Crowd has doubled since I got here
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I honestly think he could have gotten 10+ more delegates from Michigan if the polls would have been more honest, how many people stayed home becuase they thought Bernie didn't stand a chance?
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looks like Bernie is targeting NC more than I thought he would.
he has a lot of support in our part of the state... haven't seen any polls in the Eastern cities.
He has the momentum to take OHIO and I don't trust the polls in Florida... who would???
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5 Reasons Bernie Sanders Will Keep Winning After Michigan
Clinton 768 32.2% of the way to the nomination
Sanders 553 23.2% *edited due to bad copy/paste job
2383 delegates needed to win. 28% of delegates allocated so far.
*This count excludes superdelegates
Aside from the delegate count, let's talk general election. Hillary has won most of the South, however, these are Republican states. Sanders has won mostly Dem states. Showing that Hillary can win republican states, what does this say as a general election Dem candidate? Nothing really. She's not a republican! (well, ok, she's kind of a closet republican)... It shows that Sanders can win against the Rep. candidate, for Sure.
http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/delegate-count-tracker
Here's the link from above. http://www.vox.com/a/presidential-primary-delegate-tracker
Updated by Andrew Prokop and Sarah Frostenson on March 9, 2016, 11:46 a.m. ET
(...Also, there’s one key difference in the Democratic process: superdelegates. These are over 700 party members who are free to vote for whomever they choose. We’ve excluded them from this tracker because superdelegates are free to change their minds, and because they’ve never swung the nomination away from the winner of pledged delegates. So if, say, Bernie Sanders won a plurality of pledged delegates, there would be intense pressure on superdelegates not to override the will of the voters. However, just keep in mind that superdelegates are overwhelmingly supporting Clinton this year, so her lead may turn out to be even bigger than it currently looks.)
Oh wait! Just noticed my error in copying / pasting the post you quoted for # of delegates. From article: Hillary 768 Bernie 553.
Hillary 1221
Bernie 571
Not sure why any source would have anything different regardless of they include super delegates or not.
Clinton Benefits From US Media’s Misleading Reporting Of Delegate Counts
don't believe the hype!!!!
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2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)
2006- Cincinnati, OH
2008- Columbia, SC
2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2
2010- Bristow, VA
2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL
2012- Atlanta, GA
2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
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I don't even know what they are running for anymore. That debate was painful agreed.
Trump is right. No more debates.
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/03/10/how-about-election-without-polls
How About an Election Without Polls?
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/03/14/more-upsets-horizon-yuuuge-turnout-could-hand-sanders-big-wins-tuesday
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