Paris Attacks

mickeyrat

I am curious to know how many are already in process, for how long and when any would have been approved.

Gern Blansten

ajedigecko said:

...is is has been contained....no need for refugee/reinforcements...head on back...

They have been contained. The right wing media might like to use that little soundbite but it's an absolute fact. The terrorist attacks are acts of desperation not strength. 911 was not an act of a strong terrorist group was it? Lots of nasty things are possible when people are willing to strap bombs to themselves.

Jason P

Germany - Netherlands game cancelled after police chief says an explosive device intended for detonation was found in the stadium

businessinsider.com/germany-netherlands-game-stadium-being-evacuated-2015-11

tempo_n_groove

Kat said:

The level of hysteria being stirred up for personal gain is shameful...more than shameful. I can't call names though. Keeping a calm head when things around us are so bad is one of the best things we can do.

Not sure where you live but it's not bad here. Thinking it's bad EVERYWHERE is hysteria...

Kat

That would definitely be hysteria...kind of like thinking ALL refugees are ISIS...and some people are acting like they are. I'm having trouble containing my anger about the reaction to this tragic event by some of our so-called leaders and those who aspire to lead us. It's embarrassing, to say the least. Let me put it this way. I ain't afraid of no ghosts...and I'm certainly not afraid of refugees. Some people need a backbone. We're America and we can handle this situation without fear-mongering. I see great strength in the French as they handle this. Solidarity.

bootlegger10

Kat said:

The level of hysteria being stirred up for personal gain is shameful...more than shameful. I can't call names though. Keeping a calm head when things around us are so bad is one of the best things we can do.

But re-evaulating open borders in Europe and refugee screening after these events is being level-headed. It is a reasonable action. You may be referring to people benefiting from defense companies.

bootlegger10

Gern Blansten said:

The level of idiocy on this subject is unreal. People act like the ISIS army itself is disguised as refugees.

So we are idiots because we want to suspend the mass migration of refugees? You can't have any respect for other opinions? It think it would be idiotic not to re-evaulate. Why is France such a hotbed for terrorism? It is because they have a large Muslim population that never assimilated. So adding 5 million Muslims should give some pause (i.e., can we support them, can they assimilate, will this create two societies in the future and create dischord in the country, etc...). Notice nowhere did I say Muslims are bad people, but when Mexicans move to the US and get disgruntled the worst that happens is they join a gang or rob a store and not try to blow up a soccer stadium.

You already have evidence that assimilation is not working in some countries. But hey, most liberal leaders in Europe must be idiots because they are all re-evaluating, tightening borders, building fences, etc...

eddiec

Kat said:

That would definitely be hysteria...kind of like thinking ALL refugees are ISIS...and some people are acting like they are. I'm having trouble containing my anger about the reaction to this tragic event by some of our so-called leaders and those who aspire to lead us. It's embarrassing, to say the least. Let me put it this way. I ain't afraid of no ghosts...and I'm certainly not afraid of refugees. Some people need a backbone. We're America and we can handle this situation without fear-mongering. I see great strength in the French as they handle this. Solidarity.

Everybody should read Cliffy's article that he posted. Getting into the United States as a refugee is the most difficult, toughest route you can take to get into the country. You would have a better chance getting into Mexico and paying a mule to get you across.

mickeyrat

I stand with this guy.....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2015/11/17/grieving-husband-to-isis-my-son-and-i-are-stronger-than-all-the-armies-of-the-world/?tid=sm_fb

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Jason P said:

Germany - Netherlands game cancelled after police chief says an explosive device intended for detonation was found in the stadium

businessinsider.com/germany-netherlands-game-stadium-being-evacuated-2015-11

Did this just go over everybody's head?

This is kind of serious. Dontcha think?

JimmyV

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Jason P said:

Germany - Netherlands game cancelled after police chief says an explosive device intended for detonation was found in the stadium

businessinsider.com/germany-netherlands-game-stadium-being-evacuated-2015-11

Did this just go over everybody's head?

This is kind of serious. Dontcha think?

Reports are now that no explosives were found.

bootlegger10

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Jason P said:

Germany - Netherlands game cancelled after police chief says an explosive device intended for detonation was found in the stadium

businessinsider.com/germany-netherlands-game-stadium-being-evacuated-2015-11

Did this just go over everybody's head?

This is kind of serious. Dontcha think?

Scary. Did France have around 100 raids the last few days? There must be thousands and thousands of terrorists living in Europe. How many soccer games are going to have to be canceled if thousands of people are ready to blow stuff up?

JimmyV

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/666719233527664640

kce8

I am not surprised that this happened in Hannover. It doesn't mean that it's not frightening.

This soccer game was announced to stand against terror - they said they won't let the terrorists stop that game or anything else or arouse fears in our country. Then they announced that persons of government etc will be there to show the terrorists that we will not cancel the game and all stand together....
So wasn't it clear that someone would call and say there would be a bomb ?

It's getting damn serious now... and we can't say it's far away

callen

"Drilling for fear makes the job simple."

Republicans are sooo happy this fell into their laps.

Imagine saying Syrian Christians can come but not Syrian Muslims. Oh boy. Doesn't seem to be all constitutional now does it.

kce8

First time in my life that I am worried about safety here in Germany!!! Fuck

rgambs

tempo_n_groove said:

Kat said:

The level of hysteria being stirred up for personal gain is shameful...more than shameful. I can't call names though. Keeping a calm head when things around us are so bad is one of the best things we can do.

Not sure where you live but it's not bad here. Thinking it's bad EVERYWHERE is hysteria...

If you get on Facebook and Twitter you will see, it's bad everywhere. All the toothless yokels of this country, and worse, the Trump supporters, are disseminating Islamophobia like crazy. Read the comments on any online article about refugees, it's bad.

rgambs

Has anyone else noted that the core of anti-refugee sentiment is the notion that American lives are inherently more valuable than Syrian lives? It's insane, and it's so widespread I am starting to feel as embarassed to be an American as I was in '01 to '08.

kce8

If people just would understand that the refugees are leaving their homes and family and country because of the terrorists.
I am involved with that subject since almost one year now and I take care of a family from Syria.
They have gone through so much shit you can't even imagine and they run away from war!
They just had to give up their normal life because of this fucking Is is shit!
Sorry for my bad words but I just can't hear more of that bullshit connect refugees with Is is terrorists ...

I only hope that no one of us or these anti-refugee peps have to go through something like this. And if so we hopefully will find a few other people on this planet who will help us get out of it!

PJ_Soul

Kat said:

That would definitely be hysteria...kind of like thinking ALL refugees are ISIS...and some people are acting like they are. I'm having trouble containing my anger about the reaction to this tragic event by some of our so-called leaders and those who aspire to lead us. It's embarrassing, to say the least. Let me put it this way. I ain't afraid of no ghosts...and I'm certainly not afraid of refugees. Some people need a backbone. We're America and we can handle this situation without fear-mongering. I see great strength in the French as they handle this. Solidarity.

I'm feeling the same, to the point where I am actively avoiding the subject for the most part. To see so many people see a tragedy like this, and their first reaction is to immediately turn around and point at the most vulnerable people possible as their scape goat. It's making me so mad that I've had to mostly extract myself from the debate ... worried I'm going to start calling people bad names and shit, lol.