Canadian Politics Redux

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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,628


    I cannot believe people in this country are not furious?  How many people in this country got meaningless non-violent convictions that are fucking up their lives?  And these clowns think this company should escape prosecution, why 4000 Quebec jobs, what about Alberta, Ontario...probably 10000 + people in the GM supply chain will be out of work in 12 months?  Fuck Trudeau.  Harper was right, he was not ready...nice hair, soon to be grey.
    Unfortunately for me, I can't get too angry over this, as these latest scandals merely confirm my suspicions about Trudeau and his style (since that's all it is) of governing.  However, in talking with my parents recently (who usually stand centre-left), they can no longer support this government.  I'll be interested to hear what the rest of my family think on this, since leading up to the last election I was made to feel like an absolute fool for supporting Harper's Conservatives.  I expect silence, however.
    Its hard to fault people for supporting him.  He promised he'd do politics differently.  Turns out the new boss is way worse than the old boss.

    I was never a huge Harper fan.  But, I judge politicians based on whether they govern without always raising my taxes, at least Harper wasn't always after the taxpayer.  And of course, Trudeau was in Toronto trying to sell people on his carbon tax.  Because Canadians don't pay enough tax.  Don't worry, there will be another scandal or 4 by the October election.  Just remember, everything going on is Harper's fault, maybe Mulroney's, could be Rob Ford's fault, let's just blame Doug...

    And to show people how out of touch the liberals are, they played that predators music at their cash grab rally,  a day after HBO aired Neverland.

    Trudeau should wait a week or so before reshuffling his cabinet.  Just saying.


    Harper was a f**king tool and I'd still take Trudeau over him considering where he was trying to take this country.

    That being said... again... I'll be voting out the current pm (not voting in the new pm)- barring some Doug Ford or Donald like candidate that is (I'd never be that stupid).

    Canadian politics is very confusing. Doesn't the AG serve for the sole purpose to protect the chief executive's political interests? Why isn't Trudeau calling this a witch hunt?
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    I could care a less who you vote for at all...

    Odd comment for the Canadian Politics thread.
    It is your vote correct?  So why would I care who you vote for?  

    It is my vote and I'll vote for who I choose.  I do know that I am not supporting a PM that either obstructed justice or came very close to it.  Then to see how he freely insults Canadians.  No Thanks.  
    And if I had my choice between Wynns Cap n Trade or Trudeau's carbon tax, I prefer the carbon tax...at least he is rebating some monies back to those who can least afford the extra tax.  Under Wynn's plan, no one got a rebate except people who invested in green energy and cars.  I do not think poor people should subsidize well off people to buy a $50 000 Tesla or 30 grand in new windows.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845


    I cannot believe people in this country are not furious?  How many people in this country got meaningless non-violent convictions that are fucking up their lives?  And these clowns think this company should escape prosecution, why 4000 Quebec jobs, what about Alberta, Ontario...probably 10000 + people in the GM supply chain will be out of work in 12 months?  Fuck Trudeau.  Harper was right, he was not ready...nice hair, soon to be grey.
    Unfortunately for me, I can't get too angry over this, as these latest scandals merely confirm my suspicions about Trudeau and his style (since that's all it is) of governing.  However, in talking with my parents recently (who usually stand centre-left), they can no longer support this government.  I'll be interested to hear what the rest of my family think on this, since leading up to the last election I was made to feel like an absolute fool for supporting Harper's Conservatives.  I expect silence, however.
    Its hard to fault people for supporting him.  He promised he'd do politics differently.  Turns out the new boss is way worse than the old boss.

    I was never a huge Harper fan.  But, I judge politicians based on whether they govern without always raising my taxes, at least Harper wasn't always after the taxpayer.  And of course, Trudeau was in Toronto trying to sell people on his carbon tax.  Because Canadians don't pay enough tax.  Don't worry, there will be another scandal or 4 by the October election.  Just remember, everything going on is Harper's fault, maybe Mulroney's, could be Rob Ford's fault, let's just blame Doug...

    And to show people how out of touch the liberals are, they played that predators music at their cash grab rally,  a day after HBO aired Neverland.

    Trudeau should wait a week or so before reshuffling his cabinet.  Just saying.


    Harper was a f**king tool and I'd still take Trudeau over him considering where he was trying to take this country.

    That being said... again... I'll be voting out the current pm (not voting in the new pm)- barring some Doug Ford or Donald like candidate that is (I'd never be that stupid).

    Canadian politics is very confusing. Doesn't the AG serve for the sole purpose to protect the chief executive's political interests? Why isn't Trudeau calling this a witch hunt?

    ;)

    On the off chance this was a serious question, here's the answer:

    Dual Role: Minister of Justice and Attorney General

    The Department was officially established upon the adoption of the Department of Justice Act in 1868, with Sir John A. Macdonald presiding as the first Minister of Justice and Attorney General. The Act stipulates that the Minister of Justice is responsible for the management and direction of the Department, and is also ex officio Her Majesty’s Attorney General of Canada.

    The Department supports the Minister in both of these roles. See the Department of Justice Act.

    The Minister of Justice has lead responsibility for 46 Acts of Parliament and shared responsibility for another 6 Acts and areas of federal law by ensuring a bilingual and bijural national legal framework. The responsibilities include a number of legal policy areas, such as criminal justice (including youth criminal justice), family law, access to justice, Aboriginal justice, public law, and private international law.

    The Attorney General protects the interests of the Crown by litigating on behalf of the Crown and by providing legal advice to the Government, departments and agencies of government.

    Most prosecution functions of the Attorney General have been assigned to an independent organization, the Public Prosecution Service of Canada, established in 2006. The Attorney General is supported in this role by the Director of Public Prosecutions.

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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,628


    I cannot believe people in this country are not furious?  How many people in this country got meaningless non-violent convictions that are fucking up their lives?  And these clowns think this company should escape prosecution, why 4000 Quebec jobs, what about Alberta, Ontario...probably 10000 + people in the GM supply chain will be out of work in 12 months?  Fuck Trudeau.  Harper was right, he was not ready...nice hair, soon to be grey.
    Unfortunately for me, I can't get too angry over this, as these latest scandals merely confirm my suspicions about Trudeau and his style (since that's all it is) of governing.  However, in talking with my parents recently (who usually stand centre-left), they can no longer support this government.  I'll be interested to hear what the rest of my family think on this, since leading up to the last election I was made to feel like an absolute fool for supporting Harper's Conservatives.  I expect silence, however.
    Its hard to fault people for supporting him.  He promised he'd do politics differently.  Turns out the new boss is way worse than the old boss.

    I was never a huge Harper fan.  But, I judge politicians based on whether they govern without always raising my taxes, at least Harper wasn't always after the taxpayer.  And of course, Trudeau was in Toronto trying to sell people on his carbon tax.  Because Canadians don't pay enough tax.  Don't worry, there will be another scandal or 4 by the October election.  Just remember, everything going on is Harper's fault, maybe Mulroney's, could be Rob Ford's fault, let's just blame Doug...

    And to show people how out of touch the liberals are, they played that predators music at their cash grab rally,  a day after HBO aired Neverland.

    Trudeau should wait a week or so before reshuffling his cabinet.  Just saying.


    Harper was a f**king tool and I'd still take Trudeau over him considering where he was trying to take this country.

    That being said... again... I'll be voting out the current pm (not voting in the new pm)- barring some Doug Ford or Donald like candidate that is (I'd never be that stupid).

    Canadian politics is very confusing. Doesn't the AG serve for the sole purpose to protect the chief executive's political interests? Why isn't Trudeau calling this a witch hunt?

    ;)

    On the off chance this was a serious question, here's the answer:

    Dual Role: Minister of Justice and Attorney General

    The Department was officially established upon the adoption of the Department of Justice Act in 1868, with Sir John A. Macdonald presiding as the first Minister of Justice and Attorney General. The Act stipulates that the Minister of Justice is responsible for the management and direction of the Department, and is also ex officio Her Majesty’s Attorney General of Canada.

    The Department supports the Minister in both of these roles. See the Department of Justice Act.

    The Minister of Justice has lead responsibility for 46 Acts of Parliament and shared responsibility for another 6 Acts and areas of federal law by ensuring a bilingual and bijural national legal framework. The responsibilities include a number of legal policy areas, such as criminal justice (including youth criminal justice), family law, access to justice, Aboriginal justice, public law, and private international law.

    The Attorney General protects the interests of the Crown by litigating on behalf of the Crown and by providing legal advice to the Government, departments and agencies of government.

    Most prosecution functions of the Attorney General have been assigned to an independent organization, the Public Prosecution Service of Canada, established in 2006. The Attorney General is supported in this role by the Director of Public Prosecutions.



    Thanks. The whole Crown thing makes it even more confusing. I even read the Wikipedia page. Still confusing. 
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,947


    I cannot believe people in this country are not furious?  How many people in this country got meaningless non-violent convictions that are fucking up their lives?  And these clowns think this company should escape prosecution, why 4000 Quebec jobs, what about Alberta, Ontario...probably 10000 + people in the GM supply chain will be out of work in 12 months?  Fuck Trudeau.  Harper was right, he was not ready...nice hair, soon to be grey.
    Unfortunately for me, I can't get too angry over this, as these latest scandals merely confirm my suspicions about Trudeau and his style (since that's all it is) of governing.  However, in talking with my parents recently (who usually stand centre-left), they can no longer support this government.  I'll be interested to hear what the rest of my family think on this, since leading up to the last election I was made to feel like an absolute fool for supporting Harper's Conservatives.  I expect silence, however.
    Its hard to fault people for supporting him.  He promised he'd do politics differently.  Turns out the new boss is way worse than the old boss.

    I was never a huge Harper fan.  But, I judge politicians based on whether they govern without always raising my taxes, at least Harper wasn't always after the taxpayer.  And of course, Trudeau was in Toronto trying to sell people on his carbon tax.  Because Canadians don't pay enough tax.  Don't worry, there will be another scandal or 4 by the October election.  Just remember, everything going on is Harper's fault, maybe Mulroney's, could be Rob Ford's fault, let's just blame Doug...

    And to show people how out of touch the liberals are, they played that predators music at their cash grab rally,  a day after HBO aired Neverland.

    Trudeau should wait a week or so before reshuffling his cabinet.  Just saying.


    Harper was a f**king tool and I'd still take Trudeau over him considering where he was trying to take this country.

    That being said... again... I'll be voting out the current pm (not voting in the new pm)- barring some Doug Ford or Donald like candidate that is (I'd never be that stupid).
    Scheer kind of is a Doug Ford/Donald-like candidate IMO - enough for me to totally feel comfortable making an anti-Scheer vote by voting Liberal. Yes, Trudeau is far better than Harper was and better than Scheer would be. What I'm really upset about is Jagmeet Singh and how he's going to make it impossible for the NDP to be a possibility. Man, do I ever miss Jack Layton.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • yeah, it's interesting to think of where Layton would have taken the country. 
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  • PJ_Soul said:


    I cannot believe people in this country are not furious?  How many people in this country got meaningless non-violent convictions that are fucking up their lives?  And these clowns think this company should escape prosecution, why 4000 Quebec jobs, what about Alberta, Ontario...probably 10000 + people in the GM supply chain will be out of work in 12 months?  Fuck Trudeau.  Harper was right, he was not ready...nice hair, soon to be grey.
    Unfortunately for me, I can't get too angry over this, as these latest scandals merely confirm my suspicions about Trudeau and his style (since that's all it is) of governing.  However, in talking with my parents recently (who usually stand centre-left), they can no longer support this government.  I'll be interested to hear what the rest of my family think on this, since leading up to the last election I was made to feel like an absolute fool for supporting Harper's Conservatives.  I expect silence, however.
    Its hard to fault people for supporting him.  He promised he'd do politics differently.  Turns out the new boss is way worse than the old boss.

    I was never a huge Harper fan.  But, I judge politicians based on whether they govern without always raising my taxes, at least Harper wasn't always after the taxpayer.  And of course, Trudeau was in Toronto trying to sell people on his carbon tax.  Because Canadians don't pay enough tax.  Don't worry, there will be another scandal or 4 by the October election.  Just remember, everything going on is Harper's fault, maybe Mulroney's, could be Rob Ford's fault, let's just blame Doug...

    And to show people how out of touch the liberals are, they played that predators music at their cash grab rally,  a day after HBO aired Neverland.

    Trudeau should wait a week or so before reshuffling his cabinet.  Just saying.


    Harper was a f**king tool and I'd still take Trudeau over him considering where he was trying to take this country.

    That being said... again... I'll be voting out the current pm (not voting in the new pm)- barring some Doug Ford or Donald like candidate that is (I'd never be that stupid).
    Scheer kind of is a Doug Ford/Donald-like candidate IMO - enough for me to totally feel comfortable making an anti-Scheer vote by voting Liberal. Yes, Trudeau is far better than Harper was and better than Scheer would be. What I'm really upset about is Jagmeet Singh and how he's going to make it impossible for the NDP to be a possibility. Man, do I ever miss Jack Layton.

    It is slim pickings at the moment... I'd hand you that.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739


    I think this a fantastic use of tax $$$$. ROLMFAO
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739


    This will never fly with Canadians, they love paying taxes...

    Maybe it's time the corporations paid more.

    Corporate and Personal Income Tax
    http://projects.thestar.com/canadas-corporations-pay-less-tax-than-you-think/
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739

    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    edited March 2019


    Not sure if JWR was sworn in.  KInd of fucked if you can testify, but not under oath...but this is a liberal slanted process and they are losing.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845


    I think this a fantastic use of tax $$$$. ROLMFAO

    You have a problem with using taxpayer money for something that teaches sexual health to girls and women? I don't. 
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845


    This will never fly with Canadians, they love paying taxes...

    Maybe it's time the corporations paid more.

    Corporate and Personal Income Tax
    http://projects.thestar.com/canadas-corporations-pay-less-tax-than-you-think/

    I would hope that Scheer's conservatives would not fuck up the environmental issues quite so badly as Trump's republicans, but I could be wrong. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf


  • This will never fly with Canadians, they love paying taxes...

    Maybe it's time the corporations paid more.

    Corporate and Personal Income Tax
    http://projects.thestar.com/canadas-corporations-pay-less-tax-than-you-think/

    I hope this isn't a veiled shot at Purple Socks. He hasn't help bridge the gap, but this is hardly on him.

    Show me a party with a serious intent to target corporations and ease the burden of the working class and I'm in. You can't though.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739


    The person who testified under oath is the believable one.  Butts is a snake...
    Give Peas A Chance…


  • The person who testified under oath is the believable one.  Butts is a snake...
    and he is a snake why?
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,947


    I think this a fantastic use of tax $$$$. ROLMFAO

    You have a problem with using taxpayer money for something that teaches sexual health to girls and women? I don't. 
    Neither do I.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739


    So they will not recall the reasonable person who this controversy is centred around, but they'll call the Privy Council Clerk, who came off as a nut job...

    Voters can decide in 8 months.  I'm sure the liberals will have another scandal by then.  There is the Norman case, that seems to have lead to all this.

    Better start searching the bars for McCallum to do some damage control.


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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    I think Wilson-Rayboule should return to provide more testimony to address the differences in testimony. I suspect there will be pressure on the liberals to rethink this. 
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  • it really is amazing how people just allow their biases to obviously frame how they look at a story, regardless of what/if facts have been presented. 
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,947
    I want to know what in the world Jane Philpott is up to. I am not satisfied with the explanation she gave for her resignation ... I have a strong suspicion that she is just playing politics right now, trying to strategically position herself, like she's trying to look ahead some moves in the game... It remains to be seen if she's choosing wisely for herself. I'm just not buying that it's all about principles for her... or for JWR for that matter. It's questions like these, as well as the conflicting testimony we're hearing, that is making me feel most comfortable with simply sitting back and letting this whole thing pan out before at all deciding where I stand with it. Just watching and waiting.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Posts: 2,601
    I think Wilson-Rayboule should return to provide more testimony to address the differences in testimony. I suspect there will be pressure on the liberals to rethink this. 
    And hopefully with Butts getting into JWR’s post-Justice Minister time, any “privilege” has been waived.
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

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