1. Giants/Dodgers - 1219-1187 Giants all-time. Only 32 games separate the two thru regular season history. Both have decent, comparable post-season success (Giants 23 pennants & 8 WS, Dodgers 21 pennants, 6 WS). The fact that the Dodgers owner persuaded Giants owner to move from NY to CA along with them to preserve the rivalry trumps all others. This is the most consistent and arguably the most entertaining rivalry throughout history.
2. Cubs/Cardinals - 1197-1147 Cubs all-time. Only 50 games separate the two thru regular season history, but the Cardinals obviously have much better post-season success than my Cubbies. They've won the most World Series by an NL team and 2nd most all-time. The Cubs have the biggest championship drought in sports history, but have won the only post-season series between the two.
3. Yankees/Red Sox - This might be the most hyped up rivalry, but it's completely lopsided in the Yankees favor. The Yanks hold a 189 game all-time lead and are by far the most successful post-season team in MLB history. Almost everyone outside of Yanks/Sox fans are tired of ESPN shoving all 18 games down our fucking throats every season. On the field, this isn't even close.
Thanks for this...I love a good statistical analysis...and yes, the Dodgers/Giants rivalry does now seem a lot more legit than the Yankees/Sox one.
I agree, the Cubs have a very good team... people should definitely be excited to have such a good young team... and i think the entire country outside of St Louis is rooting for them, myself included... BUT, to be the favorite to win the world series this year, after finishing 3rd in their division last year (albeit with 97 wins), is the definition of over-hyped...
doesn't mean I wont be rooting for them (my Phillies stink right now) and it doesn't mean they wont win 100 games... I just don't like when a team gets too hyped, because it NEVER works out, and I want these guys to win
Obviously I'm in St. Louis and will NEVER root for the Cubs, even more so when you have Theo Epstein bringing the buy a championship model he did with the Red Sox and look where that team is now and how he left them...yeah they got a couple of titles but they got old quick and no farm system
I will admit I'm impressed with the look of the Cubs youth that to me is the one thing that stands out. Cubs are team to beat for the next couple years in the National League
Keith Law ranks Red Sox farm system the best in baseball Now, what about those 4 Red Rock shows?
I don't want to contribute to the thread moving from tour rumors to baseball, but he more recently (last month) ranked them 10th. Still good, but not the best in baseball.
Well, maybe you should've had my Red Rocks quote, that you didn't have, but i fixed that up for you>LOL.
As a long suffering Pittsburgh Pirates fan, all this Cubs talk is just super. I think that ball the one Cubbie player hit in Pittsburgh during the WC game still hasnt landed yet. So based upon that....PJ owes my city a August show.
93x, Minneapolis rock station, has been promoting a Huge concert announcement Monday morning at 8. Not sure if GnR is getting ready to announce yet plus I don't really know their definition of huge. The leaks of US Bank announcing something soon could be tied into this of course I could be eating something better than chicken tonight......I'm not
I tweeted that Iowa DJ who claimed PJ would play US Bank. He replied saying that the PJ show will definitely preceed the Luke Bryant show, and when asked if he had a reliable source, he simply said "yes". I know there's not much news there, but as of this weekend, he is still sticking by his word.
Fargo, ND 6/15/03
Winnipeg, MB 9/8/05
St Paul, MN 6/27/06
Chicago, IL 8/5/07
East Troy, WI 9/3/11, 9/4/11
Winnipeg, MB 9/17/11
Chicago, IL 7/19/13
St Paul, MN 10/19/14
Miami, FL 04/09/16
Tampa, FL 04/11/16
Fenway 1 & 2 08/05/16, 08/07/16Wrigley 1 & 2 08/18/18, 08/20/18Oakland 1 & 2 05/12/22, 05/13/22
Sioux Falls and Sacramento also have "major" concert announcements on Monday morning
2010: Cleveland 2012: Atlanta 2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II 2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver 2015: New York City 2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco 2017: Ohana Fest (EV) 2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II 2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2 2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver 2023: St. Paul II 2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
2010: Cleveland 2012: Atlanta 2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II 2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver 2015: New York City 2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco 2017: Ohana Fest (EV) 2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II 2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2 2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver 2023: St. Paul II 2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
These are odd times. Minneapolis and Sioux City have their announcements at 8am central. The 10 am Sacro announcment would be noon central. One would think that if this is a PJ announcment, all cities would announce at the same time.
Fargo, ND 6/15/03
Winnipeg, MB 9/8/05
St Paul, MN 6/27/06
Chicago, IL 8/5/07
East Troy, WI 9/3/11, 9/4/11
Winnipeg, MB 9/17/11
Chicago, IL 7/19/13
St Paul, MN 10/19/14
Miami, FL 04/09/16
Tampa, FL 04/11/16
Fenway 1 & 2 08/05/16, 08/07/16Wrigley 1 & 2 08/18/18, 08/20/18Oakland 1 & 2 05/12/22, 05/13/22
The 10 am Sacro announcment would be noon central. One would think that if this is a PJ announcment, all cities would announce at the same time.
If you read the radio stations previous tweets about the Monday announcement, I think it's safe to assume it's not PJ.
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Sioux Falls and Sacramento also have "major" concert announcements on Monday morning
There it is... 30 pages back we figured if they were playing any shows before August it would HAVE to be announced Monday March 7... I think we may have nailed this one
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Sioux Falls and Sacramento also have "major" concert announcements on Monday morning
There it is... 30 pages back we figured if they were playing any shows before August it would HAVE to be announced Monday March 7... I think we may have nailed this one
Not sure why any dates would have to be announced tomorrow. I highly doubt they would be announcing a whole tour leg without any heads up. So I definitely don't think it's pj that these announcements are eluding to. With that said I definitely think that if there is a summer leg in between Roo and Ride that it would be announced within the next 2 weeks.
Summerfest 7/8/95 Missoula 6/20/98 Alpine Valley 6/26/98 & 6/27/98 Alpine Valley 10/8/00
Champaign 4/23/03 Alpine Valley 6/21/03 Missoula 8/29/05
Chicago 5/16 & 17/06 Grand Rapids 5/19/06 Summerfest 6/29/06 & 6/30/06
Tampa 6/12/08
Chicago 8/23/09
Indy 5/7/10 Alpine Valley x2 2011 Wrigley 2013 Milwaukee 14 Telluride 16
i'm going to have some fun and assume a tour & seattle event are coming... i'm going to assume the tour is between 'Roo & Ride in June/July and Seattle is Labor Day Weekend...
if i assume those things the question is, when is the announcement? I guess it would follow the earlier lead, announcing a 15-20 date tour and a large event in Seattle at the same time, with the lotto/public sale for the Seattle event a few weeks after the regular dates lotto/public sale...
my best guess for announcement possibilities: March 7 with a public sale of March 18 (Seattle maybe on April 1st?)... this is 3 months before the tour, and 6 months before the large event... which fits their recent pattern perfectly
anything later in March conflicts with Good Friday/Easter & April Tour... anything in April conflicts with April/May tour so I definitely don't see that... May 2 & 9 they are on tour so that's out... May 16 would mean a public sale on Friday of Memorial Day Weekend, possible but HIGHLY doubt it... May 23 would mean a public sale on June 3, seems too late... May 30 is memorial day so that's out...
so, IF there are tour dates between Roo & Rise, I think they have to announce the week of March 7th... if no announcement is made by the end of that week, I think its safe to say any upcoming tour dates would be later in the year, as was previously discussed in this thread (late summer/autumn)
The thing that slows me down is a total lack of leaks of holds, cities, venues, etc... but there was a brief leak on facebook? Do we know anything more about that?
That breaks down why I think tmw could be a good day
Chris cornell just announced some shows. Jun 16 Ruth Eckerd Hall Clearwater, FL Buy Jun 17 Florida Theatre Jacksonville, FL Buy Jun 19 North Charleston Performing Arts Center N. Charleston, SC Buy Jun 20 Blumenthal PAC - Belk Theater Charlotte, NC Buy Jun 22 Carpenter Theatre at Richmond Center Stage Richmond, VA Buy Jun 23 Hippodrome Baltimore, MD Buy Jun 25 Capitol Theatre Port Chester, NY Buy Jun 26 Palace Theater Waterbury, CT Buy Jun 28 Hanover Theatre for the Performing Arts Worcester, MA Buy Jun 29 Bergen Performing Arts Center Englewood, NJ Buy Jul 1 The Palace Theatre Albany, NY Buy Jul 2 Devos Performance Hall Grand Rapids, MI Buy Jul 3 Ravinia Festival Highland Park, IL Buy Jul 5 Overture Hall Madison, WI Buy Jul 6 Louisville Palace Louisville, KY Buy Jul 8 Taft Theatre Cincinatti, OH Buy Jul 9 Old National Centre - Murat Theatre Indianapolis, IN Buy Jul 11 Peoria Civic Center Peoria, IL Buy Jul 12 Adler Theatre Davenport, IA Buy Jul 14 Orpheum Theatre Sioux City, IA Buy Jul 17 Hult Center - Silva Concert Hall Eugene, OR Buy Jul 18 Capitol Theatre Yakima, WA Buy Jul 20 Martin Woldson Theater at The Fox Spokane, WA Buy Jul 21 Royal Theatre Victoria, BC Buy Jul 23 Northern Alberta Jubilee Auditorium Edmonton, AB Buy Jul 24 Jack Singer Concert Hall Calgary, AB Buy Jul 26 Conexus Arts Center Regina, SK Buy Jul 27 Centennial Concert Hall Winnipeg, MB Buy
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2000 - Chicago, IL 2003 - Champaign, IL 2006 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2 2007 - Chicago, IL Lollapalooza 2009 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2 2010 - St. Louis, MO 2011 - East Troy, WI 1 & 2 (PJ20 Destination Weekend) 2012 - Atlanta, GA, Missoula, MT 2013 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), Dallas, TX, Oklahoma City, OK 2014 - St. Louis, MO, Tulsa, OK, Moline, IL (No Code, IL), Saint Paul, MN, Milwaukee, WI (Yield, WI) 2016 - Greenville, SC (Vs, SC), Raleigh, NC, Columbia, SC, Boston, MA (Fenway Park 1), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
2018 - Seattle, WA (Safeco Field 2), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2), Boston, MA (Fenway Park 2)
2020 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, ?? 2022 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV 2023 - St. Paul, MN 2, Fort Worth, TX 2, Austin, TX 1, and Austin, TX 2
2024 - Portland, OR and Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
2012 - Temple of the Dog East Troy, WI (PJ20 Destination Weekend) 2014 - Soundgarden Tinley Park, IL (with Nine Inch Nails)
2014 - Alice in Chains Davenport, IA
2016 - Chris Cornell Solo Madison, WI and Peoria, IL (official hometown show)
2016 - Temple of the Dog San Francisco, CA (both shows) 2017 - Soundgarden Dallas (cancelled) RIP Chris Cornell
2018 - Smashing Pumpkins Chicago, IL (first show)
2019 - Alice in Chains Milwaukee, WI
2022 - Jerry Cantrell Chicago, IL 2023 - Jerry Cantrell Milwaukee, WI
RIP Andrew Wood, Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley, and Chris Cornell
RIP Mom (may your star shine the brightest in the sky, our family loves and misses you very much, we'll meet again)
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So, what about the 3 Red Rock shows?
I know there's not much news there, but as of this weekend, he is still sticking by his word.
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
I also can't see GnR playing Sioux Falls
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
St. Paul 2014 • Mexico City 2015 • Philadelphia II 2016 • Ottawa 2016 • Amsterdam I & II 2018 • Wrigley Field II 2018 • Phoenix 2022
Apollo Theater 2022 • Chicago I 2023 • Baltimore 2024
Missoula 6/20/98
Alpine Valley 6/26/98 & 6/27/98
Alpine Valley 10/8/00
Champaign 4/23/03
Alpine Valley 6/21/03
Missoula 8/29/05
Chicago 5/16 & 17/06
Grand Rapids 5/19/06
Summerfest 6/29/06 & 6/30/06
Tampa 6/12/08
Chicago 8/23/09
Indy 5/7/10
Alpine Valley x2 2011
Wrigley 2013
Milwaukee 14
Telluride 16
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Jun 16 Ruth Eckerd Hall Clearwater, FL Buy
Jun 17 Florida Theatre Jacksonville, FL Buy
Jun 19 North Charleston Performing Arts Center N. Charleston, SC Buy
Jun 20 Blumenthal PAC - Belk Theater Charlotte, NC Buy
Jun 22 Carpenter Theatre at Richmond Center Stage Richmond, VA Buy
Jun 23 Hippodrome Baltimore, MD Buy
Jun 25 Capitol Theatre Port Chester, NY Buy
Jun 26 Palace Theater Waterbury, CT Buy
Jun 28 Hanover Theatre for the Performing Arts Worcester, MA Buy
Jun 29 Bergen Performing Arts Center Englewood, NJ Buy
Jul 1 The Palace Theatre Albany, NY Buy
Jul 2 Devos Performance Hall Grand Rapids, MI Buy
Jul 3 Ravinia Festival Highland Park, IL Buy
Jul 5 Overture Hall Madison, WI Buy
Jul 6 Louisville Palace Louisville, KY Buy
Jul 8 Taft Theatre Cincinatti, OH Buy
Jul 9 Old National Centre - Murat Theatre Indianapolis, IN Buy
Jul 11 Peoria Civic Center Peoria, IL Buy
Jul 12 Adler Theatre Davenport, IA Buy
Jul 14 Orpheum Theatre Sioux City, IA Buy
Jul 17 Hult Center - Silva Concert Hall Eugene, OR Buy
Jul 18 Capitol Theatre Yakima, WA Buy
Jul 20 Martin Woldson Theater at The Fox Spokane, WA Buy
Jul 21 Royal Theatre Victoria, BC Buy
Jul 23 Northern Alberta Jubilee Auditorium Edmonton, AB Buy
Jul 24 Jack Singer Concert Hall Calgary, AB Buy
Jul 26 Conexus Arts Center Regina, SK Buy
Jul 27 Centennial Concert Hall Winnipeg, MB Buy
-Christopher Walken
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your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
Sweet. I'm in.
Another Van Andel show would be great. Don't see it happening tho. /:
Just outside of where I grew up, awesome. I'm attending that one
2003 - Champaign, IL
2006 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
2007 - Chicago, IL Lollapalooza
2009 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
2010 - St. Louis, MO
2011 - East Troy, WI 1 & 2 (PJ20 Destination Weekend)
2012 - Atlanta, GA, Missoula, MT
2013 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), Dallas, TX, Oklahoma City, OK
2014 - St. Louis, MO, Tulsa, OK, Moline, IL (No Code, IL), Saint Paul, MN, Milwaukee, WI (Yield, WI)
2016 - Greenville, SC (Vs, SC), Raleigh, NC, Columbia, SC, Boston, MA (Fenway Park 1), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
2022 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV
2023 - St. Paul, MN 2, Fort Worth, TX 2, Austin, TX 1, and Austin, TX 2
2014 - Soundgarden Tinley Park, IL (with Nine Inch Nails)
2017 - Soundgarden Dallas (cancelled) RIP Chris Cornell
2023 - Jerry Cantrell Milwaukee, WI
I'd do Louisville too if it wasn't a week night!!
'98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
'00: Columbus: Polaris
'03: Columbus: Germain
'10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
'11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
'12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
'13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
'14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
'15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
'16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
'17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
'18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
'22: Nashville / St. Louis
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2010: Noblesville, IN
2011: PJ20 Night 1
2013: Wrigley Field, Baltimore
2014: St. Louis
2016: Lexington, Fenway I, Wrigley I, Temple of the Dog - NYC
2017: EV solo - Louisville
2018: Wrigley 1
2022: St. Louis
2023: Austin 1 & 2
2024: Vegas 1, Noblesville, IN
'98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
'00: Columbus: Polaris
'03: Columbus: Germain
'10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
'11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
'12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
'13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
'14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
'15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
'16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
'17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
'18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
'22: Nashville / St. Louis
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