Buy championship model? Only players they've "bought" are Lester, Heyward, & Zobrist. Everyone else is homegrown or acquired thru trades.
Jason Heyward, Dexter Fowler weren't bought?
2000 - Chicago, IL 2003 - Champaign, IL 2006 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2 2007 - Chicago, IL Lollapalooza 2009 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2 2010 - St. Louis, MO 2011 - East Troy, WI 1 & 2 (PJ20 Destination Weekend) 2012 - Atlanta, GA, Missoula, MT 2013 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), Dallas, TX, Oklahoma City, OK 2014 - St. Louis, MO, Tulsa, OK, Moline, IL (No Code, IL), Saint Paul, MN, Milwaukee, WI (Yield, WI) 2016 - Greenville, SC (Vs, SC), Raleigh, NC, Columbia, SC, Boston, MA (Fenway Park 1), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
2018 - Seattle, WA (Safeco Field 2), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2), Boston, MA (Fenway Park 2)
2020 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, ?? 2022 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV 2023 - St. Paul, MN 2, Fort Worth, TX 2, Austin, TX 1, and Austin, TX 2
2024 - Portland, OR and Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
2025 - Pittsburgh, PA1 & Pittsburgh PA2
2012 - Temple of the Dog East Troy, WI (PJ20 Destination Weekend) 2014 - Soundgarden Tinley Park, IL (with Nine Inch Nails)
2014 - Alice in Chains Davenport, IA
2016 - Chris Cornell Solo Madison, WI and Peoria, IL (official hometown show)
2016 - Temple of the Dog San Francisco, CA (both shows) 2017 - Soundgarden Dallas (cancelled) RIP Chris Cornell
2018 - Smashing Pumpkins Chicago, IL (first show)
2019 - Alice in Chains Milwaukee, WI
2022 - Jerry Cantrell Chicago, IL 2023 - Jerry Cantrell Milwaukee, WI
RIP Andrew Wood, Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley, and Chris Cornell
RIP Mom (may your star shine the brightest in the sky, our family loves and misses you very much, we'll meet again)
As a long time Braves fan..the playoffs can be over in a few days. You got to get there to have a shot but u got to be rolling at the right time to get to the Series.
I agree, the Cubs have a very good team... people should definitely be excited to have such a good young team... and i think the entire country outside of St Louis is rooting for them, myself included... BUT, to be the favorite to win the world series this year, after finishing 3rd in their division last year (albeit with 97 wins), is the definition of over-hyped...
doesn't mean I wont be rooting for them (my Phillies stink right now) and it doesn't mean they wont win 100 games... I just don't like when a team gets too hyped, because it NEVER works out, and I want these guys to win
Obviously I'm in St. Louis and will NEVER root for the Cubs, even more so when you have Theo Epstein bringing the buy a championship model he did with the Red Sox and look where that team is now and how he left them...yeah they got a couple of titles but they got old quick and no farm system
I will admit I'm impressed with the look of the Cubs youth that to me is the one thing that stands out. Cubs are team to beat for the next couple years in the National League
No farm system? >LOL>Plus, they have a catcher, SS & CF who are under 25 who are already up with the Red Sox
I agree, the Cubs have a very good team... people should definitely be excited to have such a good young team... and i think the entire country outside of St Louis is rooting for them, myself included... BUT, to be the favorite to win the world series this year, after finishing 3rd in their division last year (albeit with 97 wins), is the definition of over-hyped...
doesn't mean I wont be rooting for them (my Phillies stink right now) and it doesn't mean they wont win 100 games... I just don't like when a team gets too hyped, because it NEVER works out, and I want these guys to win
Obviously I'm in St. Louis and will NEVER root for the Cubs, even more so when you have Theo Epstein bringing the buy a championship model he did with the Red Sox and look where that team is now and how he left them...yeah they got a couple of titles but they got old quick and no farm system
I will admit I'm impressed with the look of the Cubs youth that to me is the one thing that stands out. Cubs are team to beat for the next couple years in the National League
Keith Law ranks Red Sox farm system the best in baseball
I don't want to contribute to the thread moving from tour rumors to baseball, but he more recently (last month) ranked them 10th. Still good, but not the best in baseball.
2013: Oklahoma City 2014: St. Louis, Tulsa, Lincoln, Denver 2016: MSG I, MSG II 2018: Wrigley I, Wrigley II
I hope whatever they call PJ25, if there is one, will be after Wrigley. Can't really squeeze in any more vacation before then. Even if there isn't a PJ25, I'd like Seattle/The Gorge or Red Rocks to be in September sometime. That leaves plenty of time for Eddie to watch his Cubs in the playoffs. Whatever happens, I do hope there is a West Coast tour for all the fans out there.
Out of the three you mentioned I think it has to be Yankees vs. Red Sox. Both teams have been really good in the last 20 years so it has made for a great rivalry. Cubs v. Cardinals may be a rivalry but has been one sided for the Cards (I'm a Cubs fan).
Yanks/Red Sox has been the better rivalry in my lifetime. As a Cubs fan I hate the Cards, but you can't argue the fact that the Yanks/Sox has been the more relevant rivalry in the last few decades. The Cubs and Cards have only played one time in the playoffs...
1. Giants/Dodgers - 1219-1187 Giants all-time. Only 32 games separate the two thru regular season history. Both have decent, comparable post-season success (Giants 23 pennants & 8 WS, Dodgers 21 pennants, 6 WS). The fact that the Dodgers owner persuaded Giants owner to move from NY to CA along with them to preserve the rivalry trumps all others. This is the most consistent and arguably the most entertaining rivalry throughout history.
2. Cubs/Cardinals - 1197-1147 Cubs all-time. Only 50 games separate the two thru regular season history, but the Cardinals obviously have much better post-season success than my Cubbies. They've won the most World Series by an NL team and 2nd most all-time. The Cubs have the biggest championship drought in sports history, but have won the only post-season series between the two.
3. Yankees/Red Sox - This might be the most hyped up rivalry, but it's completely lopsided in the Yankees favor. The Yanks hold a 189 game all-time lead and are by far the most successful post-season team in MLB history. Almost everyone outside of Yanks/Sox fans are tired of ESPN shoving all 18 games down our fucking throats every season. On the field, this isn't even close.
I hope whatever they call PJ25, if there is one, will be after Wrigley. Can't really squeeze in any more vacation before then. Even if there isn't a PJ25, I'd like Seattle/The Gorge or Red Rocks to be in September sometime. That leaves plenty of time for Eddie to watch his Cubs in the playoffs. Whatever happens, I do hope there is a West Coast tour for all the fans out there.
I think it will be. I still think a second leg in the early fall will be announced in May.
Still sticking with September as the perfect time to tour the west. I'm sure Eddie won't want to skip out on a chance to bash Trump in front of hundreds of thousands of fans right before the election.
1998: Vancouver 7/19 2005: Calgary 9/4 2009: Calgary 8/8, San Diego 10/9 2011: Calgary 9/21, Edmonton 9/23, Vancouver 9/25 2012: Missoula 9/30 2013: Calgary 12/2 2014: Amsterdam1 6/16, Amsterdam2 6/17, Trieste 6/22, Berlin 6/26 2016: Ottawa 5/8, Toronto 5/10, Toronto2 5/12 2019: Dusseldorf 6/30 (EV) 2022: Sacramento 5/18 2024: Portland 5/10
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Fargo, ND 6/15/03 Winnipeg, MB 9/8/05 St Paul, MN 6/27/06 Chicago, IL 8/5/07 East Troy, WI 9/3/11, 9/4/11 Winnipeg, MB 9/17/11 Chicago, IL 7/19/13 St Paul, MN 10/19/14 Miami, FL 04/09/16 Tampa, FL 04/11/16 Fenway 1 & 2 08/05/16, 08/07/16Wrigley 1 & 2 08/18/18, 08/20/18Oakland 1 & 2 05/12/22, 05/13/222005: Calgary 9/4
2009: Calgary 8/8, San Diego 10/9
2011: Calgary 9/21, Edmonton 9/23, Vancouver 9/25
2012: Missoula 9/30
2013: Calgary 12/2
2014: Amsterdam1 6/16, Amsterdam2 6/17, Trieste 6/22, Berlin 6/26
2016: Ottawa 5/8, Toronto 5/10, Toronto2 5/12
2019: Dusseldorf 6/30 (EV)
2022: Sacramento 5/18
2024: Portland 5/10
Sorry for the disappointment...
I'm always ready for a Cubs debate. Bring it!
2003 - Champaign, IL
2006 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
2007 - Chicago, IL Lollapalooza
2009 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
2010 - St. Louis, MO
2011 - East Troy, WI 1 & 2 (PJ20 Destination Weekend)
2012 - Atlanta, GA, Missoula, MT
2013 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), Dallas, TX, Oklahoma City, OK
2014 - St. Louis, MO, Tulsa, OK, Moline, IL (No Code, IL), Saint Paul, MN, Milwaukee, WI (Yield, WI)
2016 - Greenville, SC (Vs, SC), Raleigh, NC, Columbia, SC, Boston, MA (Fenway Park 1), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
2022 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV
2023 - St. Paul, MN 2, Fort Worth, TX 2, Austin, TX 1, and Austin, TX 2
2014 - Soundgarden Tinley Park, IL (with Nine Inch Nails)
2017 - Soundgarden Dallas (cancelled) RIP Chris Cornell
2023 - Jerry Cantrell Milwaukee, WI
Probably also doesn't help that as a Pirates fan I still might be upset about that NL Wild Card game...
Keith Law ranks Red Sox farm system the best in baseball http://www.overthemonster.com/2015/7/23/9020529/keith-law-ranks-red-sox-farm-system
Now, what about those 4 Red Rock shows?
2014: St. Louis, Tulsa, Lincoln, Denver
2016: MSG I, MSG II
2018: Wrigley I, Wrigley II
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
WAY OFF TOPIC: What's the bigger/better rivalry:
Yankess vs. Red Sox?
Giants vs. Dodgers?
Cubs vs. Cardinals?
Something else?
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
1. Giants/Dodgers - 1219-1187 Giants all-time. Only 32 games separate the two thru regular season history. Both have decent, comparable post-season success (Giants 23 pennants & 8 WS, Dodgers 21 pennants, 6 WS). The fact that the Dodgers owner persuaded Giants owner to move from NY to CA along with them to preserve the rivalry trumps all others. This is the most consistent and arguably the most entertaining rivalry throughout history.
2. Cubs/Cardinals - 1197-1147 Cubs all-time. Only 50 games separate the two thru regular season history, but the Cardinals obviously have much better post-season success than my Cubbies. They've won the most World Series by an NL team and 2nd most all-time. The Cubs have the biggest championship drought in sports history, but have won the only post-season series between the two.
3. Yankees/Red Sox - This might be the most hyped up rivalry, but it's completely lopsided in the Yankees favor. The Yanks hold a 189 game all-time lead and are by far the most successful post-season team in MLB history. Almost everyone outside of Yanks/Sox fans are tired of ESPN shoving all 18 games down our fucking throats every season. On the field, this isn't even close.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
'98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
'00: Columbus: Polaris
'03: Columbus: Germain
'10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
'11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
'12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
'13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
'14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
'15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
'16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
'17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
'18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
'22: Nashville / St. Louis
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I KNEW IT !!!!!
Like in the next 2 weeks.
Oh, and Go Blue Jays
2005: Calgary 9/4
2009: Calgary 8/8, San Diego 10/9
2011: Calgary 9/21, Edmonton 9/23, Vancouver 9/25
2012: Missoula 9/30
2013: Calgary 12/2
2014: Amsterdam1 6/16, Amsterdam2 6/17, Trieste 6/22, Berlin 6/26
2016: Ottawa 5/8, Toronto 5/10, Toronto2 5/12
2019: Dusseldorf 6/30 (EV)
2022: Sacramento 5/18
2024: Portland 5/10
Missoula 6/20/98
Alpine Valley 6/26/98 & 6/27/98
Alpine Valley 10/8/00
Champaign 4/23/03
Alpine Valley 6/21/03
Missoula 8/29/05
Chicago 5/16 & 17/06
Grand Rapids 5/19/06
Summerfest 6/29/06 & 6/30/06
Tampa 6/12/08
Chicago 8/23/09
Indy 5/7/10
Alpine Valley x2 2011
Wrigley 2013
Milwaukee 14
Telluride 16
...I swear I never took it for granted. Just thought of it now.