yeah, I like how in the wiki link, axs claimed they had 'innovative' programs that block ticket bots and then later it says they are partnered with StubHub.
It just all comes down to making the most money and screwing over the consumer.
the justice department has no time for antitrust crimes these days, they are busy selling "deferred" prosecutions to Wall street hustlers like S. Cohen and his SAC capital. It didn't exist when I went to Law School but basically the gov says, give us 500 million or so, admit you did a naughty thing, and tell everyone you wont do it again, and no short stay for u in the Catskills @ Otisville fed Camp for wayward ...
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the justice department has no time for antitrust crimes these days, they are busy selling "deferred" prosecutions to Wall street hustlers like S. Cohen and his SAC capital. It didn't exist when I went to Law School but basically the gov says, give us 500 million or so, admit you did a naughty thing, and tell everyone you wont do it again, and no short stay for u in the Catskills @ Otisville fed Camp for wayward ...
You can thank Chris Christie during his time as a US Attorney for that slick move. Thank God he's out of the running for president.
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so lets take a look at the Red Rocks schedule... just for kicks... there is 3 larger openings in the schedule currently in June & July... I think if they do it they would do 3-4 shows because of the demand, without playing 3 in a row... at least I would hope they would play more than 2 shows, not that I would complain...because of this, 4 shows in 5 days makes the most sense to me... anyway
6/13, 6/14, 6/15, 6/16... don't see this as a legit option... seems too soon after bonnaroo to make it that far to play 2 shows...
6/19, 6/20, 6/21, 6/22, 6/23, 6/24, 6/25, 6/26, 6/27... NOW we are talking, 9 days open in a row starting 10 days after Bonnaroo ... this is perfect for playing 4 shows in 5 days and who knows, possibly even more... also a little nugget, ben harper & the innocent criminals are playing there on 6/28... this would be about 2 weeks before rise so im not sure how that would fit as part of a tour or not, but this seems like an option
7/4, 7/5, 7/6, 7/7, 7/8, 7/9, 7/10, 7/11... obvious potential here being so close to Rise festival... Rise clearly would take out 7/9 and I would assume 7/10 & 7/11 as well... so that leaves 7/4 - 7/8... apparently Blues Traveler plays every 7/4 but it isn't on the schedule yet... so lets assume that leaves 7/5, 7/6, 7/7, 7/8... they could easily play 2 shows in there, 3 if they broke it up...
so lets take a look at the Red Rocks schedule... just for kicks... there is 3 larger openings in the schedule currently in June & July... I think if they do it they would do 3-4 shows because of the demand, without playing 3 in a row... at least I would hope they would play more than 2 shows, not that I would complain...because of this, 4 shows in 5 days makes the most sense to me... anyway
6/13, 6/14, 6/15, 6/16... don't see this as a legit option... seems too soon after bonnaroo to make it that far to play 2 shows...
6/19, 6/20, 6/21, 6/22, 6/23, 6/24, 6/25, 6/26, 6/27... NOW we are talking, 9 days open in a row starting 10 days after Bonnaroo ... this is perfect for playing 4 shows in 5 days and who knows, possibly even more... also a little nugget, ben harper & the innocent criminals are playing there on 6/28... this would be about 2 weeks before rise so im not sure how that would fit as part of a tour or not, but this seems like an option
7/4, 7/5, 7/6, 7/7, 7/8, 7/9, 7/10, 7/11... obvious potential here being so close to Rise festival... Rise clearly would take out 7/9 and I would assume 7/10 & 7/11 as well... so that leaves 7/4 - 7/8... apparently Blues Traveler plays every 7/4 but it isn't on the schedule yet... so lets assume that leaves 7/5, 7/6, 7/7, 7/8... they could easily play 2 shows in there, 3 if they broke it up...
So I have until the 1st to request vacation and 1 remaining week available to request. June or July!? I feel like July right before Ride?
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so lets take a look at the Red Rocks schedule... just for kicks... there is 3 larger openings in the schedule currently in June & July... I think if they do it they would do 3-4 shows because of the demand, without playing 3 in a row... at least I would hope they would play more than 2 shows, not that I would complain...because of this, 4 shows in 5 days makes the most sense to me... anyway
6/13, 6/14, 6/15, 6/16... don't see this as a legit option... seems too soon after bonnaroo to make it that far to play 2 shows...
6/19, 6/20, 6/21, 6/22, 6/23, 6/24, 6/25, 6/26, 6/27... NOW we are talking, 9 days open in a row starting 10 days after Bonnaroo ... this is perfect for playing 4 shows in 5 days and who knows, possibly even more... also a little nugget, ben harper & the innocent criminals are playing there on 6/28... this would be about 2 weeks before rise so im not sure how that would fit as part of a tour or not, but this seems like an option
7/4, 7/5, 7/6, 7/7, 7/8, 7/9, 7/10, 7/11... obvious potential here being so close to Rise festival... Rise clearly would take out 7/9 and I would assume 7/10 & 7/11 as well... so that leaves 7/4 - 7/8... apparently Blues Traveler plays every 7/4 but it isn't on the schedule yet... so lets assume that leaves 7/5, 7/6, 7/7, 7/8... they could easily play 2 shows in there, 3 if they broke it up...
So I have until the 1st to request vacation and 1 remaining week available to request. June or July!? I feel like July right before Ride?
IF they are playing there this year... we haven't had any information confirming anything or even hinting at it... just a lot of hope coupled with the fact it is way over due... Rise festival sure makes it seem possible though, if not probable
so lets take a look at the Red Rocks schedule... just for kicks... there is 3 larger openings in the schedule currently in June & July... I think if they do it they would do 3-4 shows because of the demand, without playing 3 in a row... at least I would hope they would play more than 2 shows, not that I would complain...because of this, 4 shows in 5 days makes the most sense to me... anyway
6/13, 6/14, 6/15, 6/16... don't see this as a legit option... seems too soon after bonnaroo to make it that far to play 2 shows...
6/19, 6/20, 6/21, 6/22, 6/23, 6/24, 6/25, 6/26, 6/27... NOW we are talking, 9 days open in a row starting 10 days after Bonnaroo ... this is perfect for playing 4 shows in 5 days and who knows, possibly even more... also a little nugget, ben harper & the innocent criminals are playing there on 6/28... this would be about 2 weeks before rise so im not sure how that would fit as part of a tour or not, but this seems like an option
7/4, 7/5, 7/6, 7/7, 7/8, 7/9, 7/10, 7/11... obvious potential here being so close to Rise festival... Rise clearly would take out 7/9 and I would assume 7/10 & 7/11 as well... so that leaves 7/4 - 7/8... apparently Blues Traveler plays every 7/4 but it isn't on the schedule yet... so lets assume that leaves 7/5, 7/6, 7/7, 7/8... they could easily play 2 shows in there, 3 if they broke it up...
someone posted in another thread "Widespread Panic will absolutely play Red Rocks on June 24-26 so you can eliminate those 3 nights as possibilities for Pearl Jam"
so that would leave 6/19, 6/20, 6/21, 6/22, 6/23 open which seems to be perfect to play 4 shows in 5 days... which I think would be the perfect scenario for everyone... this could be part of a 4 week tour between Bonnaroo - Rise... which is only a few days longer then their normal 3+ week tours of the last few years...
Cedar Rapids has a 9,000 seat arena renovated in 2013 Sioux Falls has a new 12,000 seat arena built in 2014
Bonnaroo - Cedar Rapids - Sioux Falls - OKC - Denver/Red Rocks - El Paso - Phoenix - San Diego - LA - Las Vegas - etc works fairly well on the map logistically
maybe the writing is on the wall? especially with this "leak"? April/May - 4+ week tour June/July - 4+ week tour between Bonnaroo & Rise August/September - 4+ weeks with 2 large events each on the east coast, mid west, west coast (TBD)... perhaps add the Canadian festival that's been rumored, they tend to include festivals in tour legs
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I don't see Red Rocks happening. They already are giving Colorado a lot of attention with Ride... They should keep going West and play bigger cities and end at the Gorge.
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Cedar Rapids has a 9,000 seat arena renovated in 2013 Sioux Falls has a new 12,000 seat arena built in 2014
Bonnaroo - Cedar Rapids - Sioux Falls - OKC - Denver/Red Rocks - El Paso - Phoenix - San Diego - LA - Las Vegas - etc works fairly well on the map logistically
maybe the writing is on the wall? especially with this "leak"? April/May - 4+ week tour June/July - 4+ week tour between Bonnaroo & Rise August/September - 4+ weeks with 2 large events each on the east coast, mid west, west coast (TBD)... perhaps add the Canadian festival that's been rumored, they tend to include festivals in tour legs
Definitely NOT... just pure speculation on my part and having fun trying to put together the PJ tour puzzle lol
But I think it very well could happen... what I found interesting is dome of those smaller cities on that FB list have new arenas or recently renovated, which makes it a little more believable
The uniqueness of each show, mixed in with the fact that the band are not exactly college-aged kids anymore, gives a huge FOMO effect. Mix that in with those legendary shows @ RR back in '95 and you get a powerful attraction. You don't want to miss the show where they finally break out Falling Down again. Or their final shows.
Definitely NOT... just pure speculation on my part and having fun trying to put together the PJ tour puzzle lol
But I think it very well could happen... what I found interesting is dome of those smaller cities on that FB list have new arenas or recently renovated, which makes it a little more believable
I sure hope those smaller cities are right! I live in Cedar Rapids and all we get here is Country and Five Finger Death Punch or some other mainstream crap rock.
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Definitely NOT... just pure speculation on my part and having fun trying to put together the PJ tour puzzle lol
But I think it very well could happen... what I found interesting is dome of those smaller cities on that FB list have new arenas or recently renovated, which makes it a little more believable
I sure hope those smaller cities are right! I live in Cedar Rapids and all we get here is Country and Five Finger Death Punch or some other mainstream crap rock.
I'm an hour away from CR and right with you. Traveling is fun, but CR or Sioux Falls would be a very nice surprise!
Between Bonnaroo and Ride they got a one moth gap. I really hope they will come to Europe! Summer is the only time over here and I don't think they will exclude Europe on their 25th anniversary.
Between Bonnaroo and Ride they got a one moth gap. I really hope they will come to Europe! Summer is the only time over here and I don't think they will exclude Europe on their 25th anniversary.
I think the chance of them playing Europe in the summer is the same as them playing Red Rocks in 2016. Zero percent.
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Between Bonnaroo and Ride they got a one moth gap. I really hope they will come to Europe! Summer is the only time over here and I don't think they will exclude Europe on their 25th anniversary.
I think the chance of them playing Europe in the summer is the same as them playing Red Rocks in 2016. Zero percent.
And that's exaggerating the chances of Europe:)
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I can see why people would want Red Rocks but wouldn't that just be a huge ass bloodbath getting tickets? You think people are bitching about MSG???
Bring on a PJ25 announcement in a huge venue that even if you don't get a seat at least you can be on a lawn and we can all be there.
I agree. I think 10k capacity is too small to contain the power of PJ and it's fans. I want to go there one day, and I would do so for PJ, but the Venue is a little too small for PJ fans. It's not like any of us have the capacity to make a trip and feel content only seeing 1 show the band plays there. It would be a total bloodbath for tickets. If they played 4 nights.. everyone would want tickets for all four nights.
If a PJ25 event is still in the works I have often thought that Dick's Sporting Goods Park in Denver would be the perfect location for such an event. I'd rather they play red rocks if they do play denver. I'm just throwing this out there cause I know most people here have been assuming that any PJ25 event will be in Seattle. I'm not so sure.
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I'm pretty sure by this time PJ20 Alpine was leaked and I already had a hotel booked! This secrecy is killing me. I hope it's in WA for a number of reasons, not the least being when in Rome..well, it would be great to scoop up some edibles
Thank you fellow 10 clubber for saving my ass....again!!!
i have a ton on my plate as it is for the shows already announced, but I've been planning on 1 western trip if 1 of 3 events is announced... if any of those happen i want to go.... if multiple of those happen i would most likely be choosing just 1
i have a ton on my plate as it is for the shows already announced, but I've been planning on 1 western trip if 1 of 3 events is announced... if any of those happen i want to go.... if multiple of those happen i would most likely be choosing just 1
PJ25 The Gorge Red Rocks
Me too
Thank you fellow 10 clubber for saving my ass....again!!!
i have a ton on my plate as it is for the shows already announced, but I've been planning on 1 western trip if 1 of 3 events is announced... if any of those happen i want to go.... if multiple of those happen i would most likely be choosing just 1
PJ25 The Gorge Red Rocks
Me too
Same here. I'm hoping for PJ25 at The Gorge.
We went to Red Rocks the day after the 2014 show just to check it out, it would be difficult to pass on seeing them there.
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6/13, 6/14, 6/15, 6/16... don't see this as a legit option... seems too soon after bonnaroo to make it that far to play 2 shows...
6/19, 6/20, 6/21, 6/22, 6/23, 6/24, 6/25, 6/26, 6/27... NOW we are talking, 9 days open in a row starting 10 days after Bonnaroo ... this is perfect for playing 4 shows in 5 days and who knows, possibly even more... also a little nugget, ben harper & the innocent criminals are playing there on 6/28... this would be about 2 weeks before rise so im not sure how that would fit as part of a tour or not, but this seems like an option
7/4, 7/5, 7/6, 7/7, 7/8, 7/9, 7/10, 7/11... obvious potential here being so close to Rise festival... Rise clearly would take out 7/9 and I would assume 7/10 & 7/11 as well... so that leaves 7/4 - 7/8... apparently Blues Traveler plays every 7/4 but it isn't on the schedule yet... so lets assume that leaves 7/5, 7/6, 7/7, 7/8... they could easily play 2 shows in there, 3 if they broke it up...
Bring on a PJ25 announcement in a huge venue that even if you don't get a seat at least you can be on a lawn and we can all be there.
why is everyone so scared? lol
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2010: 5/15 Hartford CT, 5/17 Boston MA
2011: 9/3+4 PJ20, Alpine Valley WI, 6/15 EV Providence RI, 6/16 EV Boston MA
2013: 7/19 Chicago, 10/15+16 Worcester MA, 10/25 Hartford CT
2014: 10/19 St Paul MN
2016: (5/1+2 MSG, 8/5+7 Fenway)
so that would leave 6/19, 6/20, 6/21, 6/22, 6/23 open which seems to be perfect to play 4 shows in 5 days... which I think would be the perfect scenario for everyone... this could be part of a 4 week tour between Bonnaroo - Rise... which is only a few days longer then their normal 3+ week tours of the last few years...
very interesting
Cedar Rapids has a 9,000 seat arena renovated in 2013
Sioux Falls has a new 12,000 seat arena built in 2014
Bonnaroo - Cedar Rapids - Sioux Falls - OKC - Denver/Red Rocks - El Paso - Phoenix - San Diego - LA - Las Vegas - etc works fairly well on the map logistically
maybe the writing is on the wall? especially with this "leak"?
April/May - 4+ week tour
June/July - 4+ week tour between Bonnaroo & Rise
August/September - 4+ weeks with 2 large events each on the east coast, mid west, west coast (TBD)... perhaps add the Canadian festival that's been rumored, they tend to include festivals in tour legs
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2008- Columbia, SC
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2013- Charlotte, NC
2014- Cincinnati, OH
2015- New York, NY
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But I think it very well could happen... what I found interesting is dome of those smaller cities on that FB list have new arenas or recently renovated, which makes it a little more believable
Boston 10/17/10, East Troy 9/3/11, East Troy 9/4/11, Missoula 9/30/12, Worcester 10/15/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Charlottesville 10/29/13,
St. Paul 10/19/14, New York 9/26/15, Quebec City 5/5/16, Boston 8/5/16, Boston 9/2/18, Boston 9/4/18, Quebec City 9/1/22, Camden 9/14/22, Oklahoma City 9/20/22
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Tampa 6/12/08
Chicago 8/23/09
Indy 5/7/10
Alpine Valley x2 2011
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Milwaukee 14
Telluride 16
PJ25
The Gorge
Red Rocks
We went to Red Rocks the day after the 2014 show just to check it out, it would be difficult to pass on seeing them there.