Just got back from being out of the country for 10 days... Have I missed anything big or anything Cleveland/Columbus related?
I will never understand the burning desire people have for them to come to their town. They were just at Pittsburgh, Buffalo, and Cincy, Ohioans are as lucky with shows as any region. Tickets are easy to come by, the shows are always top notch, and you can hit multiples wit just a few hours driving.
What's not to understand. No travel or hotel costs or having to use vacation days. Sleeping in you own bed. I will always take a hometown show over traveling to one.
Sorry but flying and driving scenery can be fun not to mention the different reception at hotels and nice people you meet
I have to agree with JWPearl here. The last place I want to be after a show is in my house. That's the definition of anticlimactic to me, to be right back where you were a few hours ago as if nothing happened. I did it in Columbus 2010 and it was a HUGE LETDOWN compared to the hotel and sleeping on the beach between and after Pitt and Buffalo shows in '13 or the hotels, mountains, and beach between shows in Europe.
I'm not against traveling for a show I just prefer in my town or not much of a drive. Like said in another post we are pretty fortunate in the Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky, Pennsylvania region with having a good amount of shows close. And I will be traveling to Lexington, Pit, or wherever I need to this next tour if they don't play Columbus.
The '10 Columbus show was great. Having never been to Columbus prior I was really impressed with both the city and the venue. I seem to recall the weather was perfect out and it was great to walk the city. Looking forward to visiting Lexington for the 1st time in a few short months.
It was a great show, they played Alone. It was a great night, and yeah the weather was perfect.
AND we got the "Oceans" opener... plus Mike pre-set performance of "Dead Flowers" & "That's All Right" It was a GREAT show for me!!
How could I forget Oceans as the opener...damn. Good stuff.
I WISH I could forget the UGLY poster we got!!
Hahaha yeah, it's one of the worst! If the bottom half had background it wouldn't bother me, but the white bottom half is just too much for me.
These were mystery box posters for a reason.
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Just got back from being out of the country for 10 days... Have I missed anything big or anything Cleveland/Columbus related?
I will never understand the burning desire people have for them to come to their town. They were just at Pittsburgh, Buffalo, and Cincy, Ohioans are as lucky with shows as any region. Tickets are easy to come by, the shows are always top notch, and you can hit multiples wit just a few hours driving.
What's not to understand. No travel or hotel costs or having to use vacation days. Sleeping in you own bed. I will always take a hometown show over traveling to one.
Sorry but flying and driving scenery can be fun not to mention the different reception at hotels and nice people you meet
I have to agree with JWPearl here. The last place I want to be after a show is in my house. That's the definition of anticlimactic to me, to be right back where you were a few hours ago as if nothing happened. I did it in Columbus 2010 and it was a HUGE LETDOWN compared to the hotel and sleeping on the beach between and after Pitt and Buffalo shows in '13 or the hotels, mountains, and beach between shows in Europe.
I'm not against traveling for a show I just prefer in my town or not much of a drive. Like said in another post we are pretty fortunate in the Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky, Pennsylvania region with having a good amount of shows close. And I will be traveling to Lexington, Pit, or wherever I need to this next tour if they don't play Columbus.
The '10 Columbus show was great. Having never been to Columbus prior I was really impressed with both the city and the venue. I seem to recall the weather was perfect out and it was great to walk the city. Looking forward to visiting Lexington for the 1st time in a few short months.
It was a great show, they played Alone. It was a great night, and yeah the weather was perfect.
AND we got the "Oceans" opener... plus Mike pre-set performance of "Dead Flowers" & "That's All Right" It was a GREAT show for me!!
How could I forget Oceans as the opener...damn. Good stuff.
I WISH I could forget the UGLY poster we got!!
Hahaha yeah, it's one of the worst! If the bottom half had background it wouldn't bother me, but the white bottom half is just too much for me.
I quit this thread for awhile but the pull was too strong. I'm back. Yearning for some glimmer of clue as to when I might get a show soon
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Have anybody actually an overview about the rumours ?
Spring tour dates may now be canceled, or maybe not.
The rumored European dates have been canceled due to terrorism or Eddie's ego and the Cubs or Boom's dislike for Europeans (I think it's a little of everything)
Arborist are still debating the validity of the Lexington Kentucky sign.
The rumored European dates have been canceled due to terrorism or Eddie's ego and the Cubs or Boom's dislike for Europeans (I think it's a little of everything)
The rumoured European dates have been cancelled because they conflicted with the timing of Bonnarroo (tour was set to start in Amsterdam the weekend of Bonnarroo).
The million dollar question, as you noted, is if the April/May US & Canada tour becomes the June US & Canada tour given the commitment to play Bonnarroo.
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Would the band really (potentially) cancel an entire Euro leg and 1-2 American shows at the prospect of one Festival show? That seems like a large shift.
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Would the band really (potentially) cancel an entire Euro leg and 1-2 American shows at the prospect of one Festival show? That seems like a large shift.
they'd definitley cancel the american shows for the kind of money they get for roo. no clue about europe.
This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
Would the band really (potentially) cancel an entire Euro leg and 1-2 American shows at the prospect of one Festival show? That seems like a large shift.
Given how last minute their commitment to 'Roo (apparently) was, my guess is that the organizers were desperate for a big headliner and threw a bunch of cash at the band ~ too much for them to refuse.
The only definite cancellation in the US is the Nashville show (Atlanta may be a casualty too along with Lexington) but those dates can easily be replaced with other cities to make up that lost revenue (such as Pittsburgh, which was apparently cut too). If they reschedule the entire tour to stat say in Miami in early June, no money is lost, but perhaps they have to change up a few cities based on venue availability. Again, no revenue lost there.
As for Europe, perhaps all they do is play Europe next year rather than this year, Perhaps they fill those dates with additional shows in the US around the rumoured Wrigley and/or Fenway dates that weren't initially planned. Perhaps they fill the void by adding a couple of other US festivals in the summer/fall. Perhaps they just take it easier than they were initially planning and play a few less shows.
On the surface this may look like a "large shift" but it really isn't, especially in terms of the financial and scheduling impact on the band. It's probably been a pain in the ass for management though...
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Would the band really (potentially) cancel an entire Euro leg and 1-2 American shows at the prospect of one Festival show? That seems like a large shift.
they'd definitley cancel the american shows for the kind of money they get for roo. no clue about europe.
But isn't Bonnaroo their choice. They could play it every year if they wanted and needed the money. It's not like the organisers call up KC and say 'Hey Kelly, guess what, we're going to let you play this year.'
Would the band really (potentially) cancel an entire Euro leg and 1-2 American shows at the prospect of one Festival show? That seems like a large shift.
they'd definitley cancel the american shows for the kind of money they get for roo. no clue about europe.
But isn't Bonnaroo their choice. They could play it every year if they wanted and needed the money. It's not like the organisers call up KC and say 'Hey Kelly, guess what, we're going to let you play this year.'
none of these big fests would have the same headliner year after year.
This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
Adele and Bruce spoke to Eddie at their most recent meeting of the illuminatti and asked him to postpone PJ ticket sales till January so as not to cause people to have to decide between the 3 different tours.
I really, really hope they don't do Bonaroo. They haven't played in Nashville since April 2003 and even though Bonaroo is an hour from my house, I'd rather drive 15 minutes to downtown than to Manchester and deal with 100k people and sit in 3-4 hours of traffic to watch them play a shortened set.
Not that my opinion matters in the grand scheme of things, and it's the band's choice. I'm sure it's much more appealing to them to play Bonaroo than an arena, but I'd much rather see them in an arena or amphitheater than a festival any day
I really, really hope they don't do Bonaroo. They haven't played in Nashville since April 2003 and even though Bonaroo is an hour from my house, I'd rather drive 15 minutes to downtown than to Manchester and deal with 100k people and sit in 3-4 hours of traffic to watch them play a shortened set.
Not that my opinion matters in the grand scheme of things, and it's the band's choice. I'm sure it's much more appealing to them to play Bonaroo than an arena, but I'd much rather see them in an arena or amphitheater than a festival any day
Yeah, it sucks. They seem to want to play the least amount of shows to make the most amount of money these days. That means festivals are a priority.
This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
Would the band really (potentially) cancel an entire Euro leg and 1-2 American shows at the prospect of one Festival show? That seems like a large shift.
Given how last minute their commitment to 'Roo (apparently) was, my guess is that the organizers were desperate for a big headliner and threw a bunch of cash at the band ~ too much for them to refuse.
The only definite cancellation in the US is the Nashville show (Atlanta may be a casualty too along with Lexington) but those dates can easily be replaced with other cities to make up that lost revenue (such as Pittsburgh, which was apparently cut too). If they reschedule the entire tour to stat say in Miami in early June, no money is lost, but perhaps they have to change up a few cities based on venue availability. Again, no revenue lost there.
As for Europe, perhaps all they do is play Europe next year rather than this year, Perhaps they fill those dates with additional shows in the US around the rumoured Wrigley and/or Fenway dates that weren't initially planned. Perhaps they fill the void by adding a couple of other US festivals in the summer/fall. Perhaps they just take it easier than they were initially planning and play a few less shows.
On the surface this may look like a "large shift" but it really isn't, especially in terms of the financial and scheduling impact on the band. It's probably been a pain in the ass for management though...
This makes perfect sense - and I do agree about the Management hassle. I assumed most, if not all tour planning is done at that level.
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I really, really hope they don't do Bonaroo. They haven't played in Nashville since April 2003 and even though Bonaroo is an hour from my house, I'd rather drive 15 minutes to downtown than to Manchester and deal with 100k people and sit in 3-4 hours of traffic to watch them play a shortened set.
Not that my opinion matters in the grand scheme of things, and it's the band's choice. I'm sure it's much more appealing to them to play Bonaroo than an arena, but I'd much rather see them in an arena or amphitheater than a festival any day
Yeah, it sucks. They seem to want to play the least amount of shows to make the most amount of money these days. That means festivals are a priority.
But they barely play any festivals in the US. The last tour was billed 'An evening with PJ'. I wouldn't call it a priority.
I really, really hope they don't do Bonaroo. They haven't played in Nashville since April 2003 and even though Bonaroo is an hour from my house, I'd rather drive 15 minutes to downtown than to Manchester and deal with 100k people and sit in 3-4 hours of traffic to watch them play a shortened set.
Not that my opinion matters in the grand scheme of things, and it's the band's choice. I'm sure it's much more appealing to them to play Bonaroo than an arena, but I'd much rather see them in an arena or amphitheater than a festival any day
Yeah, it sucks. They seem to want to play the least amount of shows to make the most amount of money these days. That means festivals are a priority.
But they barely play any festivals in the US. The last tour was billed 'An evening with PJ'. I wouldn't call it a priority.
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I don't think it's a priority but they play a US festival almost every year
I don't know why everyone thinks that an apparent date in June at Bonnaroo negates all the original April-May dates.
They could also end up at Bonnaroo at the end of their run....
Or they could play April through Mid-May, take 3 weeks off, and then hit some summer shows.....
I still think the bulk of the tour begins in SoFla on April 7th/8th/9th.
I think most of us are just saying that it wouldn't surprise us if that did happen, not that we expect it to happen. There's also rumours of Jazz Fest and, if that's true, the April/May time frame likely sticks. You'd think that they wouldn't want 'Roo to be a one-off show, but then again, Lolla 07 was (with the warm-up at the VIC), so it is possible that the April/May tour stays in tact and 'Roo is a on-off. There are a lot of possibilities right now and we will hopefully have some answers in the next month.
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I really, really hope they don't do Bonaroo. They haven't played in Nashville since April 2003 and even though Bonaroo is an hour from my house, I'd rather drive 15 minutes to downtown than to Manchester and deal with 100k people and sit in 3-4 hours of traffic to watch them play a shortened set.
Not that my opinion matters in the grand scheme of things, and it's the band's choice. I'm sure it's much more appealing to them to play Bonaroo than an arena, but I'd much rather see them in an arena or amphitheater than a festival any day
Yeah, it sucks. They seem to want to play the least amount of shows to make the most amount of money these days. That means festivals are a priority.
What a shitty attitude to have, did it never occur to you that maybe they want to reach new fans and play for people who !might not be familiar with them?
I really, really hope they don't do Bonaroo. They haven't played in Nashville since April 2003 and even though Bonaroo is an hour from my house, I'd rather drive 15 minutes to downtown than to Manchester and deal with 100k people and sit in 3-4 hours of traffic to watch them play a shortened set.
Not that my opinion matters in the grand scheme of things, and it's the band's choice. I'm sure it's much more appealing to them to play Bonaroo than an arena, but I'd much rather see them in an arena or amphitheater than a festival any day
Yeah, it sucks. They seem to want to play the least amount of shows to make the most amount of money these days. That means festivals are a priority.
What a shitty attitude to have, did it never occur to you that maybe they want to reach new fans and play for people who !might not be familiar with them?
Not really. They basically play the same markets over and over with a few exceptions while ignoring large parts of the country where they aren't guaranteed immediate sell outs.
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The rumored European dates have been canceled due to terrorism or Eddie's ego and the Cubs or Boom's dislike for Europeans (I think it's a little of everything)
Arborist are still debating the validity of the Lexington Kentucky sign.
Bonaroo seems to be official.
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The million dollar question, as you noted, is if the April/May US & Canada tour becomes the June US & Canada tour given the commitment to play Bonnarroo.
The only definite cancellation in the US is the Nashville show (Atlanta may be a casualty too along with Lexington) but those dates can easily be replaced with other cities to make up that lost revenue (such as Pittsburgh, which was apparently cut too). If they reschedule the entire tour to stat say in Miami in early June, no money is lost, but perhaps they have to change up a few cities based on venue availability. Again, no revenue lost there.
As for Europe, perhaps all they do is play Europe next year rather than this year, Perhaps they fill those dates with additional shows in the US around the rumoured Wrigley and/or Fenway dates that weren't initially planned. Perhaps they fill the void by adding a couple of other US festivals in the summer/fall. Perhaps they just take it easier than they were initially planning and play a few less shows.
On the surface this may look like a "large shift" but it really isn't, especially in terms of the financial and scheduling impact on the band. It's probably been a pain in the ass for management though...
They could also end up at Bonnaroo at the end of their run....
Or they could play April through Mid-May, take 3 weeks off, and then hit some summer shows.....
I still think the bulk of the tour begins in SoFla on April 7th/8th/9th.
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Not that my opinion matters in the grand scheme of things, and it's the band's choice. I'm sure it's much more appealing to them to play Bonaroo than an arena, but I'd much rather see them in an arena or amphitheater than a festival any day
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I don't think it's a priority but they play a US festival almost every year
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