So, If announcement really is Friday, I think it's safe to assume we get some sort of hint today. If not, then are we thinking announcement next week?
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Re-engineering the concept of how a line works so people don't have stand in line is completely unnecessary. You're not dealing with letting the whole arena in...
So, If announcement really is Friday, I think it's safe to assume we get some sort of hint today. If not, then are we thinking announcement next week?
to be honest i dont know what to think anymore.
one thing i know for sure is that if the euro tour doesnt happen and the US tour happens i will lose a lot of respect for PJ.
One thing is to not have rumours at all (about the EU tour) but as someone said earlier there is a clear itenerary around europe (Amsterdam , 3 shows in Italy , Portugal , Prague , London , Spain) and at the last minute cancelled the whole thing because of what happened in Paris but at the same time book a full US tour , to me its very hypocrite of them to be honest-
This is coming from a band that clearly fights against this kind of thing , plays EODM songs as a tribute and says that we will not give in to terrorism but then at the last minute cancels a whole tour...
So, If announcement really is Friday, I think it's safe to assume we get some sort of hint today. If not, then are we thinking announcement next week?
to be honest i dont know what to think anymore.
one thing i know for sure is that if the euro tour doesnt happen and the US tour happens i will lose a lot of respect for PJ.
One thing is to not have rumours at all (about the EU tour) but as someone said earlier there is a clear itenerary around europe (Amsterdam , 3 shows in Italy , Portugal , Prague , London , Spain) and at the last minute cancelled the whole thing because of what happened in Paris but at the same time book a full US tour , to me its very hypocrite of them to be honest-
This is coming from a band that clearly fights against this kind of thing , plays EODM songs as a tribute and says that we will not give in to terrorism but then at the last minute cancels a whole tour...
Why not wait 48 hours instead of making idle statements? The tour hasn't been announced/canceled yet so no need for disappointment...
If a Euro tour was getting planned, a Euro tour will happen. I cannot see them backing out for that reason - if anything it would be some other logistic.
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If a Euro tour was getting planned, a Euro tour will happen. I cannot see them backing out for that reason - if anything it would be some other logistic.
i hope you euro's get a tour... but you never know, this band doesn't like to take a lot of touring risks at this point, and im guessing security costs at venues in Europe just skyrocketed
plus, these guys aren't going anywhere, and they know it, so its not like a euro tour would never happen again... they don't have to be short sighted like us crazy fans lol
plus, these guys aren't going anywhere, and they know it, so its not like a euro tour would never happen again... they don't have to be short sighted like us crazy fans lol
Well, that's the problem. Risks like that will always be here. The situation can easily be worse in 2017. You can imagine that watching them tour extensively in the US would be a bitter pill to swallow for European fans Security is definitely tighter now but I think that it is the same in America.
With that said, if the tour is cancelled, I don't think security is the reason why.
Eddie have song Bu$hleager in Texas while B junior was still in office... A few rouge terrorists are nothing...
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Now we're guessing about a rumored tour which is now rumored to be cancelled, and guessing why?!?!?
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I doubt they are cancelling the Euro tour. If they did, I wouldn't fault them. They are about safety and while they can put on a stand against terrorism by having a concert, they also have to think about their fans and do they want to involve the fans in their "stand" as well. It is a little different for us as fans to go to a show as we only make a decision for ourselves. It is a little different if you are the one inviting 20,000 people to come to your event where your fans are counting on you to provide security.
I doubt they are cancelling the Euro tour. If they did, I wouldn't fault them. They are about safety and while they can put on a stand against terrorism by having a concert, they also have to think about their fans and do they want to involve the fans in their "stand" as well. It is a little different for us as fans to go to a show as we only make a decision for ourselves. It is a little different if you are the one inviting 20,000 people to come to your event where your fans are counting on you to provide security.
then why book a US tour...its not like the US is safer then europe...
Because they can? It is all their decisions. And I also don't think they would book a full tour and then cancel it shortly before a possible announcement. Just relax, you will get the news in time.
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I doubt they are cancelling the Euro tour. If they did, I wouldn't fault them. They are about safety and while they can put on a stand against terrorism by having a concert, they also have to think about their fans and do they want to involve the fans in their "stand" as well. It is a little different for us as fans to go to a show as we only make a decision for ourselves. It is a little different if you are the one inviting 20,000 people to come to your event where your fans are counting on you to provide security.
then why book a US tour...its not like the US is safer then europe...
I doubt they are cancelling the Euro tour. If they did, I wouldn't fault them. They are about safety and while they can put on a stand against terrorism by having a concert, they also have to think about their fans and do they want to involve the fans in their "stand" as well. It is a little different for us as fans to go to a show as we only make a decision for ourselves. It is a little different if you are the one inviting 20,000 people to come to your event where your fans are counting on you to provide security.
then why book a US tour...its not like the US is safer then europe...
It is right now.
As I posted on page 111:
Let's please not led this devolve into an argument as to who is more vulnerable
If there are shows near you, PJ or otherwise, get out there and have a good time!
I doubt they are cancelling the Euro tour. If they did, I wouldn't fault them. They are about safety and while they can put on a stand against terrorism by having a concert, they also have to think about their fans and do they want to involve the fans in their "stand" as well. It is a little different for us as fans to go to a show as we only make a decision for ourselves. It is a little different if you are the one inviting 20,000 people to come to your event where your fans are counting on you to provide security.
then why book a US tour...its not like the US is safer then europe...
It is right now.
As I posted on page 111:
Let's please not led this devolve into an argument as to who is more vulnerable
If there are shows near you, PJ or otherwise, get out there and have a good time!
I doubt they are cancelling the Euro tour. If they did, I wouldn't fault them. They are about safety and while they can put on a stand against terrorism by having a concert, they also have to think about their fans and do they want to involve the fans in their "stand" as well. It is a little different for us as fans to go to a show as we only make a decision for ourselves. It is a little different if you are the one inviting 20,000 people to come to your event where your fans are counting on you to provide security.
then why book a US tour...its not like the US is safer then europe...
It is right now.
As I posted on page 111:
Let's please not led this devolve into an argument as to who is more vulnerable
If there are shows near you, PJ or otherwise, get out there and have a good time!
I doubt they are cancelling the Euro tour. If they did, I wouldn't fault them. They are about safety and while they can put on a stand against terrorism by having a concert, they also have to think about their fans and do they want to involve the fans in their "stand" as well. It is a little different for us as fans to go to a show as we only make a decision for ourselves. It is a little different if you are the one inviting 20,000 people to come to your event where your fans are counting on you to provide security.
then why book a US tour...its not like the US is safer then europe...
It is right now.
i happen to disagree sorry. Take guns as an example.
I doubt they are cancelling the Euro tour. If they did, I wouldn't fault them. They are about safety and while they can put on a stand against terrorism by having a concert, they also have to think about their fans and do they want to involve the fans in their "stand" as well. It is a little different for us as fans to go to a show as we only make a decision for ourselves. It is a little different if you are the one inviting 20,000 people to come to your event where your fans are counting on you to provide security.
then why book a US tour...its not like the US is safer then europe...
It is right now.
As I posted on page 111:
Let's please not led this devolve into an argument as to who is more vulnerable
If there are shows near you, PJ or otherwise, get out there and have a good time!
I doubt they are cancelling the Euro tour. If they did, I wouldn't fault them. They are about safety and while they can put on a stand against terrorism by having a concert, they also have to think about their fans and do they want to involve the fans in their "stand" as well. It is a little different for us as fans to go to a show as we only make a decision for ourselves. It is a little different if you are the one inviting 20,000 people to come to your event where your fans are counting on you to provide security.
then why book a US tour...its not like the US is safer then europe...
So true, the whole idea of Europe being a Security risk is ridicules. A guy walks into a cinema in Europe and guns down front row. Nope. A guys goes into a prochoice clinic in Europe and guns down whoever. Nope. Terrorist attack happen almost every week in the US, even if you cant acknowledge that white Christians gunning down people are terrorists too...
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one thing i know for sure is that if the euro tour doesnt happen and the US tour happens i will lose a lot of respect for PJ.
One thing is to not have rumours at all (about the EU tour) but as someone said earlier there is a clear itenerary around europe (Amsterdam , 3 shows in Italy , Portugal , Prague , London , Spain) and at the last minute cancelled the whole thing because of what happened in Paris but at the same time book a full US tour , to me its very hypocrite of them to be honest-
This is coming from a band that clearly fights against this kind of thing , plays EODM songs as a tribute and says that we will not give in to terrorism but then at the last minute cancels a whole tour...
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the waiting drove me mad lol
guess all we have to do is wait
it would be great some kind of tweet or something...they must know by now how anxious we are here (just look at the 123 pages lol)
lets do this shit
plus, these guys aren't going anywhere, and they know it, so its not like a euro tour would never happen again... they don't have to be short sighted like us crazy fans lol
With that said, if the tour is cancelled, I don't think security is the reason why.
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Let's please not led this devolve into an argument as to who is more vulnerable
If there are shows near you, PJ or otherwise, get out there and have a good time!
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Terrorist attack happen almost every week in the US, even if you cant acknowledge that white Christians gunning down people are terrorists too...