Hillary won more votes for President

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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    or you could do an absentee ballot.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    Nope, just too busy this next six months. Don't have a minute to focus on it.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,276
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trey-gowdy-dana-chipman-benghazi-committee_us_5738db52e4b08f96c18373e2

    This is hilarious. The General that the Benghazi committee hired to trash Hillary ended up siding with the admin over their actions that night.

    Nice try assholes. Time to put Gowdy in his place.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,276
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,276
    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/05/17/benghazi-chairman-contradicts-fox-report-admits-military-could-not-have-saved-lives-benghazi-attack/210468
    Select Committee on Benghazi Chairman Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) directly contradicted claims made by anonymous Fox News sources who argued the military could have done more to prevent loss of life during the 2012 attack on an American compound in Benghazi, Libya.

    Fox correspondent Adam Housley cited two anonymous sources in an attempt to revive a debunked smear against the Obama administration and Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton that officials had readily available assets that could have saved lives during the attack. After Housley’s report aired during the May 11 edition of Fox News’ Special Report, Gowdy urged Housley’s two “witnesses” to appear before the select committee he heads and speak.

    On May 17, Fox host Bill Hemmer asked Gowdy about reports that his attorney, Dana Chipman, said nothing more could have been done to save Americans in Benghazi. Gowdy responded, “I don’t think there’s any issue with respect to that -- they couldn’t,” directly contradicting the accounts of the anonymous sources appearing on Special Report on May 11. From the May 17 edition of Fox News’ America’s Newsroom:
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/05/17/benghazi-chairman-contradicts-fox-report-admits-military-could-not-have-saved-lives-benghazi-attack/210468

    Select Committee on Benghazi Chairman Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) directly contradicted claims made by anonymous Fox News sources who argued the military could have done more to prevent loss of life during the 2012 attack on an American compound in Benghazi, Libya.

    Fox correspondent Adam Housley cited two anonymous sources in an attempt to revive a debunked smear against the Obama administration and Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton that officials had readily available assets that could have saved lives during the attack. After Housley’s report aired during the May 11 edition of Fox News’ Special Report, Gowdy urged Housley’s two “witnesses” to appear before the select committee he heads and speak.

    On May 17, Fox host Bill Hemmer asked Gowdy about reports that his attorney, Dana Chipman, said nothing more could have been done to save Americans in Benghazi. Gowdy responded, “I don’t think there’s any issue with respect to that -- they couldn’t,” directly contradicting the accounts of the anonymous sources appearing on Special Report on May 11. From the May 17 edition of Fox News’ America’s Newsroom:
    seems a little convenient that this news is hitting the press now rather than when she was being questioned directly after it happened, just say'n.
    besides Benghazi is just one of the things people have trouble trusting her about.

    Godfather.

  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,276
    edited May 2016

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/05/17/benghazi-chairman-contradicts-fox-report-admits-military-could-not-have-saved-lives-benghazi-attack/210468

    Select Committee on Benghazi Chairman Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) directly contradicted claims made by anonymous Fox News sources who argued the military could have done more to prevent loss of life during the 2012 attack on an American compound in Benghazi, Libya.

    Fox correspondent Adam Housley cited two anonymous sources in an attempt to revive a debunked smear against the Obama administration and Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton that officials had readily available assets that could have saved lives during the attack. After Housley’s report aired during the May 11 edition of Fox News’ Special Report, Gowdy urged Housley’s two “witnesses” to appear before the select committee he heads and speak.

    On May 17, Fox host Bill Hemmer asked Gowdy about reports that his attorney, Dana Chipman, said nothing more could have been done to save Americans in Benghazi. Gowdy responded, “I don’t think there’s any issue with respect to that -- they couldn’t,” directly contradicting the accounts of the anonymous sources appearing on Special Report on May 11. From the May 17 edition of Fox News’ America’s Newsroom:
    seems a little convenient that this news is hitting the press now rather than when she was being questioned directly after it happened, just say'n.
    besides Benghazi is just one of the things people have trouble trusting her about.

    Godfather.



    huh? He was just interviewed TODAY!!!

    Plus...they have been saying this stuff since it happened you just chose to not believe it
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/05/17/benghazi-chairman-contradicts-fox-report-admits-military-could-not-have-saved-lives-benghazi-attack/210468

    Select Committee on Benghazi Chairman Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) directly contradicted claims made by anonymous Fox News sources who argued the military could have done more to prevent loss of life during the 2012 attack on an American compound in Benghazi, Libya.

    Fox correspondent Adam Housley cited two anonymous sources in an attempt to revive a debunked smear against the Obama administration and Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton that officials had readily available assets that could have saved lives during the attack. After Housley’s report aired during the May 11 edition of Fox News’ Special Report, Gowdy urged Housley’s two “witnesses” to appear before the select committee he heads and speak.

    On May 17, Fox host Bill Hemmer asked Gowdy about reports that his attorney, Dana Chipman, said nothing more could have been done to save Americans in Benghazi. Gowdy responded, “I don’t think there’s any issue with respect to that -- they couldn’t,” directly contradicting the accounts of the anonymous sources appearing on Special Report on May 11. From the May 17 edition of Fox News’ America’s Newsroom:
    seems a little convenient that this news is hitting the press now rather than when she was being questioned directly after it happened, just say'n.
    besides Benghazi is just one of the things people have trouble trusting her about.

    Godfather.

    huh? He was just interviewed TODAY!!!

    Plus...they have been saying this stuff since it happened you just chose to not believe it

    HAHAHAHHAHA DUDE it's all mud slinging....they all do it, maybe the people are being played for suckers, ever thought of that ?

    Godfather.

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,276
    edited May 2016

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/05/17/benghazi-chairman-contradicts-fox-report-admits-military-could-not-have-saved-lives-benghazi-attack/210468

    Select Committee on Benghazi Chairman Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) directly contradicted claims made by anonymous Fox News sources who argued the military could have done more to prevent loss of life during the 2012 attack on an American compound in Benghazi, Libya.

    Fox correspondent Adam Housley cited two anonymous sources in an attempt to revive a debunked smear against the Obama administration and Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton that officials had readily available assets that could have saved lives during the attack. After Housley’s report aired during the May 11 edition of Fox News’ Special Report, Gowdy urged Housley’s two “witnesses” to appear before the select committee he heads and speak.

    On May 17, Fox host Bill Hemmer asked Gowdy about reports that his attorney, Dana Chipman, said nothing more could have been done to save Americans in Benghazi. Gowdy responded, “I don’t think there’s any issue with respect to that -- they couldn’t,” directly contradicting the accounts of the anonymous sources appearing on Special Report on May 11. From the May 17 edition of Fox News’ America’s Newsroom:
    seems a little convenient that this news is hitting the press now rather than when she was being questioned directly after it happened, just say'n.
    besides Benghazi is just one of the things people have trouble trusting her about.

    Godfather.



    huh? He was just interviewed TODAY!!!

    Plus...they have been saying this stuff since it happened you just chose to not believe it
    HAHAHAHHAHA DUDE it's all mud slinging....they all do it, maybe the people are being played for suckers, ever thought of that ?

    Godfather.

    I believe that YOU were played for a sucker. You believed it...I sure as hell didn't
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/05/17/benghazi-chairman-contradicts-fox-report-admits-military-could-not-have-saved-lives-benghazi-attack/210468

    Select Committee on Benghazi Chairman Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) directly contradicted claims made by anonymous Fox News sources who argued the military could have done more to prevent loss of life during the 2012 attack on an American compound in Benghazi, Libya.

    Fox correspondent Adam Housley cited two anonymous sources in an attempt to revive a debunked smear against the Obama administration and Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton that officials had readily available assets that could have saved lives during the attack. After Housley’s report aired during the May 11 edition of Fox News’ Special Report, Gowdy urged Housley’s two “witnesses” to appear before the select committee he heads and speak.

    On May 17, Fox host Bill Hemmer asked Gowdy about reports that his attorney, Dana Chipman, said nothing more could have been done to save Americans in Benghazi. Gowdy responded, “I don’t think there’s any issue with respect to that -- they couldn’t,” directly contradicting the accounts of the anonymous sources appearing on Special Report on May 11. From the May 17 edition of Fox News’ America’s Newsroom:
    seems a little convenient that this news is hitting the press now rather than when she was being questioned directly after it happened, just say'n.
    besides Benghazi is just one of the things people have trouble trusting her about.

    Godfather.



    huh? He was just interviewed TODAY!!!

    Plus...they have been saying this stuff since it happened you just chose to not believe it
    HAHAHAHHAHA DUDE it's all mud slinging....they all do it, maybe the people are being played for suckers, ever thought of that ?

    Godfather.

    I believe that YOU were played for a sucker. You believed it...I sure as hell didn't
    if you or anybody else votes according to party.....guess what, your being played for a sucker.


    Godfather.

  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,367

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/05/17/benghazi-chairman-contradicts-fox-report-admits-military-could-not-have-saved-lives-benghazi-attack/210468

    Select Committee on Benghazi Chairman Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) directly contradicted claims made by anonymous Fox News sources who argued the military could have done more to prevent loss of life during the 2012 attack on an American compound in Benghazi, Libya.

    Fox correspondent Adam Housley cited two anonymous sources in an attempt to revive a debunked smear against the Obama administration and Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton that officials had readily available assets that could have saved lives during the attack. After Housley’s report aired during the May 11 edition of Fox News’ Special Report, Gowdy urged Housley’s two “witnesses” to appear before the select committee he heads and speak.

    On May 17, Fox host Bill Hemmer asked Gowdy about reports that his attorney, Dana Chipman, said nothing more could have been done to save Americans in Benghazi. Gowdy responded, “I don’t think there’s any issue with respect to that -- they couldn’t,” directly contradicting the accounts of the anonymous sources appearing on Special Report on May 11. From the May 17 edition of Fox News’ America’s Newsroom:
    seems a little convenient that this news is hitting the press now rather than when she was being questioned directly after it happened, just say'n.
    besides Benghazi is just one of the things people have trouble trusting her about.

    Godfather.

    huh? He was just interviewed TODAY!!!

    Plus...they have been saying this stuff since it happened you just chose to not believe it

    People have a hard time trusting her with this issue because several survivors have stated in interviews and books that they could have saved lives. HRC sent emails to political leaders and family members saying she knew it wasn't the video, but tried to convince the public for weeks that it was. She has called the multiple families of the heros who died defending that compound liars on television for repeating what she had told them and denied her comments. It's not just one report people have trust issues with.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    Why Voters Might "Respectfully Disagree" With Clinton's Declaration of Victory

    http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/05/20/why-voters-might-respectfully-disagree-clintons-declaration-victory

    Meanwhile with Clinton trailing Trump nationally, polling group wonders: 'Are Democrats on track to nominate the wrong candidate?'

    The Bernie Sanders campaign struck back at Hillary Clinton on Thursday for her statement that the Democratic presidential nominating process was "already done," pointing to not only the nine remaining contests, but also poll after poll showing Sanders outperforming Clinton in hypothetical match-ups against presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump.

    The Bernie Sanders campaign struck back at Hillary Clinton on Thursday for her statement that the Democratic presidential nominating process was "already done," pointing to not only the nine remaining contests, but also poll after poll showing Sanders outperforming Clinton in hypothetical match-ups against presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump.

    Clinton told CNN on Thursday: "I will be the nominee for my party. That is already done, in effect. There is no way that I won't be."

    But Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs, in a strongly worded statement issued late Thursday afternoon, begged to differ.

    "In the past three weeks voters in Indiana, West Virginia and Oregon respectfully disagreed with Secretary Clinton," Briggs said. "We expect voters in the remaining nine contests also will disagree. And with almost every national and state poll showing Sen. Sanders doing much, much better than Secretary Clinton against Donald Trump, it is clear that millions of Americans have growing doubts about the Clinton campaign."

    A new Rasmussen poll published Friday finds Sanders ahead of Trump, 45-41 percent, but Trump ahead of Clinton, 42-37 percent.

    The polling group wonders: "Are Democrats on track to nominate the wrong candidate?"

    Meanwhile, a CBS News/New York Times poll released Thursday evening showed Sanders ahead of Trump by 13 points, 51 to 38 percent—more than double Clinton's six-point lead over the New York real estate mogul.

    The same poll found that 52 percent of Democratic primary voters would enthusiastically support Sanders if he were the nominee, compared to 44 percent who feel that way about Clinton. The majority of both Clinton and Sanders supporters said they see the length of the nomination process as a positive.

    Notably, CBS reported, "This is a reversal from 2008, when Clinton and Barack Obama faced off in the primaries. Back then, when asked a similar question, more than half of Democratic primary voters thought the long nomination fight would hurt their nominee."

    In fact, noted Guardian columnist Trevor Timm on Thursday:

    Around this time in 2008, Clinton was still heavily criticizing the inevitable nominee Barack Obama and making divisive statements that make this primary campaign look like a walk in the park. How quickly everyone forgets (or pretends not to remember.) In fact, some of the issues Clinton once criticized Obama for are now the same issues that Sanders hits Clinton on. Clinton supporters had no problem with it then, but are now feigning being offended.

    Perhaps then the "fury" against Sanders that is reportedly "growing in Clinton World," as The Hill's Amie Parnes put it, is more reflective of establishment Democrat priorities than what voters want.

    As Timm wrote this week:

    There is nothing worse than Democratic establishment politicians decreeing that Sanders must drop out or feigning horror that his supporters sometimes don’t unquestionably support other Democratic politicians on 100% of the issues.

    Again, let’s look back at the 2008 race: the Clinton camp said she had every right to stay in the race for as long as she wants, even though it was clear that Obama would win. She even said one of her reasons was “we all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California” before the Democratic convention in 1968. If Sanders said something like that he would be raked over the coals (and rightly, I might add).

    It’s not politicians who should be dictating when Sanders drops out, that’s the voters’ job. And Sanders, despite finding his mathematical chance increasingly dwindling, continues to win primaries. [On Tuesday] he won Oregon, for example. So it seems that voters don’t want him to drop out, only the politicians who are tied to the system he is constantly criticizing do.

    Similarly, Clinton supporters are putting "excessive focus on how Sanders will help Democrats unify the party," Kevin Gosztola wrote Wednesday at ShadowProof. "This is what the Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee want the public to be concerned about," he said, "so citizens overlook the extent of their collusion."

    Indeed, despite the incessant push for Sanders to draw down his campaign, "between mid-May and late July countless things could happen that would cause super-delegates to move toward Sanders en masse," argued attorney and freelance journalist Seth Abramson at the Huffington Post—a development that would significantly change the primary narrative.

    "A win in the California primary could be chief among them," he said.

    Abramson wrote:

    As has been exhaustively explained to both Clinton and the mainstream media over the past year, and as Clinton herself says during the interview above — “the name of the game is delegates” — should enough super-delegates switch their votes to Sanders in late July on the argument that he’s more electable than Clinton in the fall (the conventional metric used by super-delegates forced to decide a primary since 1984), Clinton will not, in fact, be the Democratic nominee. Indeed many believe that a Clinton loss in the California primary — coupled with a string of polls showing Clinton tied with or losing to Donald Trump in every battleground state as well as behind the unpredictable billionaire nationally — could cause super-delegates to switch their votes in large numbers.

    Sanders will be in Santa Fe, New Mexico on Friday afternoon and is returning to California on Saturday ahead of the state's June 7 primary.

  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,276
    edited May 2016
    mace1229 said:

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/05/17/benghazi-chairman-contradicts-fox-report-admits-military-could-not-have-saved-lives-benghazi-attack/210468

    Select Committee on Benghazi Chairman Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) directly contradicted claims made by anonymous Fox News sources who argued the military could have done more to prevent loss of life during the 2012 attack on an American compound in Benghazi, Libya.

    Fox correspondent Adam Housley cited two anonymous sources in an attempt to revive a debunked smear against the Obama administration and Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton that officials had readily available assets that could have saved lives during the attack. After Housley’s report aired during the May 11 edition of Fox News’ Special Report, Gowdy urged Housley’s two “witnesses” to appear before the select committee he heads and speak.

    On May 17, Fox host Bill Hemmer asked Gowdy about reports that his attorney, Dana Chipman, said nothing more could have been done to save Americans in Benghazi. Gowdy responded, “I don’t think there’s any issue with respect to that -- they couldn’t,” directly contradicting the accounts of the anonymous sources appearing on Special Report on May 11. From the May 17 edition of Fox News’ America’s Newsroom:
    seems a little convenient that this news is hitting the press now rather than when she was being questioned directly after it happened, just say'n.
    besides Benghazi is just one of the things people have trouble trusting her about.

    Godfather.



    huh? He was just interviewed TODAY!!!

    Plus...they have been saying this stuff since it happened you just chose to not believe it
    People have a hard time trusting her with this issue because several survivors have stated in interviews and books that they could have saved lives. HRC sent emails to political leaders and family members saying she knew it wasn't the video, but tried to convince the public for weeks that it was. She has called the multiple families of the heros who died defending that compound liars on television for repeating what she had told them and denied her comments. It's not just one report people have trust issues with.
    That's bs...she didn't try to convince people "for weeks" that it was a video. The CIA told them initially that it related to the video so that's what they said.

    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    So Hillary declines the Fox News debate against Bernie...keep believing her bullshit people...
    http://youtu.be/4UmG904VMOE
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    she is a professional and that alone should be cause for concern given her track record.

    Godfather.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    There's absolutely no political reason for Clinton to debate Sanders. Trump quit debating when the primary was effectively over. Clinton has as well.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited May 2016
    mrussel1 said:

    There's absolutely no political reason for Clinton to debate Sanders. Trump quit debating when the primary was effectively over. Clinton has as well.

    This is the exact problem.

    The fact that Clinton supporters are angrier at Bernie for being angry at the unfairness of this election than they are at the blatant anti-Sanders bias is extremely telling.
    Post edited by Free on
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,276
    PJPOWER said:

    So Hillary declines the Fox News debate against Bernie...keep believing her bullshit people...
    http://youtu.be/4UmG904VMOE

    why would she? she's ahead
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    ^^ I wouldn't argue that she's ahead, rather that the race is over. She fulfilled her debate commitments when she debated in NY. She is trying to pivot to the general. All of her language is about the general. She is complimenting Bernie at every turn, trying to bring the party together. Bernie and Hillary should be on the same sheet of music now.
    Bernie is fighting, and should be fighting for platform and to a lesser extent delegates. It should not be about the nomination.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    mrussel1 said:

    ^^ I wouldn't argue that she's ahead, rather that the race is over. She fulfilled her debate commitments when she debated in NY. She is trying to pivot to the general. All of her language is about the general. She is complimenting Bernie at every turn, trying to bring the party together. Bernie and Hillary should be on the same sheet of music now.
    Bernie is fighting, and should be fighting for platform and to a lesser extent delegates. It should not be about the nomination.

    The fact that Clinton supporters are angrier at Bernie for being angry at the unfairness of this election than they are at the blatant anti-Sanders bias is extremely telling.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    Free said:

    mrussel1 said:

    ^^ I wouldn't argue that she's ahead, rather that the race is over. She fulfilled her debate commitments when she debated in NY. She is trying to pivot to the general. All of her language is about the general. She is complimenting Bernie at every turn, trying to bring the party together. Bernie and Hillary should be on the same sheet of music now.
    Bernie is fighting, and should be fighting for platform and to a lesser extent delegates. It should not be about the nomination.

    The fact that Clinton supporters are angrier at Bernie for being angry at the unfairness of this election than they are at the blatant anti-Sanders bias is extremely telling.
    Telling of what? Telling that we're focused on winning the general so Trump doesn't get 3 SCOTUS nominations? Focused on ensuring that he doesn't pull out of NATO, tell S. Korea and Japan that it's okay to go nuclear, focused ensuring there is a pathway to citizenship, focused on keeping the JPOA in place? I guess you're right. That is telling of our priorities.
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499

    PJPOWER said:

    So Hillary declines the Fox News debate against Bernie...keep believing her bullshit people...
    http://youtu.be/4UmG904VMOE

    why would she? she's ahead
    Because she said she would...sheesh, did you not watch the video!?!? Do we not push to hold out leaders to their word these days? Just another lie from the good ol' Hildabeast.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    PJPOWER said:

    PJPOWER said:

    So Hillary declines the Fox News debate against Bernie...keep believing her bullshit people...
    http://youtu.be/4UmG904VMOE

    why would she? she's ahead
    Because she said she would...sheesh, did you not watch the video!?!? Do we not push to hold out leaders to their word these days? Just another lie from the good ol' Hildabeast.
    Oh Jesus Christ. This clip was from 2008 and in the middle of contested campaign against Obama. I'm sorry, the campaign is no longer contested in the way where it is winnable for Sanders. She committed to, I think it was five debates and even debated in NY after it was clear he cannot reasonably win the election. Clinton isn't even campaigning in CA. She is in Michigan, VA and swing states, focused on the general. Just because Sanders can't accept reality doesn't mean Clinton needs to avoid it.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Didn't Hillary start the Obama birther claim in her 2008 run?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    Jason P said:

    Didn't Hillary start the Obama birther claim in her 2008 run?

    She didn't start it. A few of her zealots may have whispered it (PUMAs), but certainly not her.
  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    I believe that came from the honorable Mrs. Carlos Danger
    mrussel1 said:


    Jason P said:

    Didn't Hillary start the Obama birther claim in her 2008 run?

    She didn't start it. A few of her zealots may have whispered it (PUMAs), but certainly not her.
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