Hillary won more votes for President

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    They really aren't left with any other option.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    PJ_Soul said:

    They really aren't left with any other option.

    Besides suspending the campaign, which is the honorable thing to do. It's also what Hillary did on 08 to allow Barack to pivot to the general and start applying funds to that race.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,600
    Hillary suspended her campaign on June 7, 2008...long after she had been beaten. Bernie Sanders is under no obligation to suspend his on March 16, 2016.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • Wma31394
    Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    mrussel1 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    They really aren't left with any other option.

    Besides suspending the campaign, which is the honorable thing to do. It's also what Hillary did on 08 to allow Barack to pivot to the general and start applying funds to that race.
    Yep. He's done. He had a hell of a run I give him credit for that.
    "Going where the water tastes like wine!"
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    edited March 2016
    mrussel1 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    They really aren't left with any other option.

    Besides suspending the campaign, which is the honorable thing to do. It's also what Hillary did on 08 to allow Barack to pivot to the general and start applying funds to that race.
    I would assume that it's only the honorable thing to do if he think it's impossible for him to win. Obviously he hasn't reached that point yet. I expect him to suspend the campaign the second he does think that, UNLESS he thinks doing so would hurt his chances as an Independent, i.e. slow some momentum as a third nominee. That he's not stopping yet may be a sign that that's his plan.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    PJ_Soul said:

    mrussel1 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    They really aren't left with any other option.

    Besides suspending the campaign, which is the honorable thing to do. It's also what Hillary did on 08 to allow Barack to pivot to the general and start applying funds to that race.
    I would assume that it's only the honorable thing to do if he think it's impossible for him to win. Obviously he hasn't reached that point yet. I expect him to suspend the campaign the second he does think that, UNLESS he thinks doing so would hurt his chances as an Independent, i.e. slow some momentum as a third nominee. That he's not stopping yet may be a sign that that's his plan.
    It's not rationally possible for him to win without super delegates. Considering the disparagement of that process, how can he honorably win that way?

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    I really don't think it's an issue. He disparages the system that he can't change unless he wins. His morals are not in danger of being compromised here.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    PJ_Soul said:

    I really don't think it's an issue. He disparages the system that he can't change unless he wins. His morals are not in danger of being compromised here.

    He can't change the DNC by being president. He could have changed it had he been a part of it before 2015 when it was his convenient vehicle for this run.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    edited March 2016
    Meh. He is still vocal about it. What do you think he should do??? Say, oh well you've got all the super delegates, and i won't try and change their minds, you win?
    He's a good and honest man. He's not an idiot. He still wants to win in a fucked system.
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    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    PJ_Soul said:

    Meh. He is still vocal about it. What do you think he should do??? Say, oh well you've got all the super delegates, and i won't try and change their minds, you win?
    He's a good and honest man. He's not an idiot. He still wants to win in a fucked system.

    It's not fucked. It's the system that is developed and voted on by the leaders and members of the DNC. It's not constitutionally mandated or controlled. They can do whatever the fuck they want so long as their members agree. If he doesn't like it, he can get the fuck out of the party he just joined. I don't mean to be a dick, but I'm about sick of Bernie supporters and their white middle class victimization. The economic system is rigged against them. WTF? It's not fucking rigged. It's rigged against minorities, not them. But where are the minorities? With Hillary.

    I got an idea. Go to junior college for two years. Get a night job. Deliver some pizzas. Get an entry level job between undergrad and grad so you have an income source. Get a real fucking degree that people want, not one that you like.

    Sorry PJ. You're a cool dude, but I'm agitated with Bernie supporters and their righteousness.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Let's not forget that Hilary is under danger of indictment, Bernie owes it to his (and Clinton's!!) democratic supporters to stay in the race (he is not that far behind at all, he is closer than Cruz is to Trump) as long as possible until it is clear that Hilary is not going to be charged with felonies.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambs said:

    Let's not forget that Hilary is under danger of indictment, Bernie owes it to his (and Clinton's!!) democratic supporters to stay in the race (he is not that far behind at all, he is closer than Cruz is to Trump) as long as possible until it is clear that Hilary is not going to be charged with felonies.

    Let's not forget that Hilary would not be in danger unless what Trump says is true.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Hillary broke the internet!

    https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,250
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    Wait... are you saying there are two sides to a story? Are you saying that Hillary ISN'T a criminal mastermind?
  • rssesq
    rssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    sucia
  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,959
    rssesq said:

    sucia

    Like in bed?
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Big bad wolf on wall street!

    One bank executive assured his clients, “We continue to believe Clinton would be one of the better candidates for financial firms.” He was quoted in a CNN Money article, “Wall Street Isn’t Worried about Hillary Clinton’s Plan,” which stated,

    Hillary Clinton unveiled her big plan to curb the worst of Wall Street’s excesses….The reaction from the banking community was a shrug, if not relief.
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