Hillary won more votes for President

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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited October 2016

    Free said:

    Free said:

    tonifig8 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    pjhawks said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    I can't believe...or I guess I can...that Hillary used a child actor to ask her a question in Pennsylvania. What the hell is wrong with her and her campaign? Shit like this is just so unnecessary.

    Source? Let me guess....infowars? zerohedge? Drudge?
    Multiple sources...linked you a page below that has them all linked as you go through it. You can deny this if you want but then you become someone who is just running cover Hillary always and all the time. I criticize Trump plenty so it shouldn't be hard to look at this and the Steve Harvey interview and say...."I like Hillary but why does her campaign have to do shit like this all the time".

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/10/07/sure-looks-like-girls-townhall-question-hillary-staged/
    wait what? most of the people at these events are invited by the parties. it's a rally for a particular candidate not a free for all. are we really surprised a local politician and his family where there? i know there is a lot of dislike for hillary but wtf? really, this is the best shit people can come up with this week? fuck i guess she would have been better off calling the girl a ms piggy :confounded:
    That was my first thought when I heard it on Hannity yesterday.
    Really? This is an issue?

    I think it's an issue for conservatives because they know it was a damn good question that will really resonate with young mothers and bigger women.
    You guys have all lost it. Really. Zero ability for anybody on here to criticize the phoniness of it all. It isn't about destroying the girl or about even whether it's a good question. The point is that this whole thing is a massive charade and you all swallow it down to defeat a greater evil. Whatever happened to the days of hope and change. So amazed how this forum turned into robot city. Not a free thinker left in the bunch.
    You can't be foolish enough to think that political chicanery just started with the Clinton campaign or Democrats. It goes back to the Greeks. Aren't you the one that is foolish and naive to think that phoniness is recent?
    Ouch. That's a stab in the back for many of us.
    I bet the Greeks didn't have smart phones.

    What do you suggest we do, russ? Vote Clinton and then vote in other dems that will work on progressive causes? Pray that she and Some of the corrupt establishment folks work hard to overturn CU? Give me something to work with. Doesn't need to be a complicated explanation. A common sense approach.
    Yeah, that's exactly what I'm thinking. When they are in office, you keep pushing your local legislator to pass a bill to bypass Citizens United. I remember when John Warner (R) was still the senator for Virginia. I belonged to one particular advocacy group at that time, and we flooded him with letters and calls during several big votes. Every time, he voted with us, his constituents, even though we advocated for liberal policies and he had to vote against party lines. All you have to say in your letter is "If you don't do X, I'll never vote for you again" and boom, when they get enough of those letters from a coalition of people, it's done. Advocacy 101. Costs nothing but time and energy and bringing the right people together. The problem is, people don't do it this way anymore. They've been fooled into thinking that a viral video on YouTube is advocacy. Local congressional members don't give a crap what a voter thinks in a state across the country. They listen to the *organized, unified* people in their districts. Change happens in America when voters connect at the local level.

    Our present situation totally reflects that. The right wing has been building their coalition for at least the last 25 years with the megalomaniac Gingrich at its inception. They have played a calculated, methodical hand . . . Slowly taking over the majority of state assemblies, governorships, then Congress. Their court strategy has been to challenge every liberal law they can't change in the legislature (and they're winning a lot of those cases). Now they are on the brink of having a nutcase puppet in the White House with Mike Pence primed to run in 4 years and the Supreme Court in their pocket.

    Hillary Clinton is our only chance right now at this moment to stop them in their tracks and regroup and figure out how progressives will move together in the next cycle. Sanders gave it a good try. Stein doesn't have a chance in hell. What we're all left with is Clinton, whose plans do get us some of what we want to be. The alternative is to get us nothing we want to be. You pick.
    :lol:

    Keep telling yourself that Clinton is on your side, the side of the people, the side of the 99%, The side of the lower middle class and poverty levels, the side of the progressives.

    Couldn't be further from the truth. She is a part of citizens United. It was she and DWS who overturned and repealed Obama's rule that lobbyists do not contribute to presidential campaigns. She bought and paid superdelegates. She makes private speeches is for big banks and refuses to release the transcripts (what's she got to hide?) but keep believing that she's going to overturn citizens United, while making more money from Wall Street, fossil fuel companies, super-PACs, and any other big donor. If she says one thing and does another I guess that's OK?
    It's her or Trump. Take your pick
    Oh it's so intriguing. Shall I pick criminal 1 or criminal 2? NEITHER.
    Well go ahead and give Ohio to Trump with your vote for Stein or Johnson or by staying home. When Clinton loses Ohio and NONE of us are FREE, we'll know where to point the finger. You're from Ohio, right? You do realize if Clinton loses Ohio, Trump is much closer to being president, right? Keep fooling yourself, FREE.

    yeah...keep throwing your little political temper tantrum.

    You want to talk about political temper tantrums, see what dreams' post.
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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited October 2016
    You're awful sure of yourselves if you think Trump can win. Or if he even wants to win.

    But hey, we're the fearful United States of America. The country that thrives on fear.
    Post edited by Free on
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,477
    Free said:

    You're awful and you thought selves if you think Trump can win.

    "you thought selves"?

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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562

    Free said:

    You're awful and you thought selves if you think Trump can win.

    "you thought selves"?

    godfather?

    Free said:

    You're awful and you thought selves if you think Trump can win.

    "you thought selves"?

    godfather?
    LOL, was speaking into my phone and that's the way it came out.
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927

    CM189191 said:

    CM189191 said:

    JimmyV said:

    I wish we could just vote already. Saw a flyer for early voting this morning which is a first for Massachusetts. Begins on 10/24 I believe. Really thinking about walking in right at 8am that day and getting it over with.

    I voted yesterday. Walked in at 4:20, registered with no ID, done voting and walked out before they closed at 4:30 pm. Easy, breezy, beautiful.
    Fraud. Or was it suppressor?
    No, yesterday was legit. When I voted again today it was fraud.
    a suppressed vote for Trump
    I'm not sure what you mean by this, please elaborate.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Wait, Free, are you from Ohio?
    Me too!
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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited October 2016
    rgambs said:

    Wait, Free, are you from Ohio?
    Me too!

    I'm not actually. Must be interesting being in a swing state.
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books Posts: 2,672

    tonifig8 said:

    Toniflig got one thing right: the "revolutionaries" (hahaha) will do some serious damage if or when Trump wins the election. That is no love of country. It's just more of the narcissistic, grandiose millenial playbook. "Look at our generation save the country! We're so amazing!"

    Then Toniflig provides examples of this grand revolutionary change:
    1. Trump -- yeah, there's an anti-corruption candidate for you.
    2. Congressional candidates losing their districts -- yeah, to be replaced by religious right wing zealots. Love that.
    3. "Look at Bernie" says Tonifig. Well, I would look if Bernie were anywhere to be found. But he ain't. Haven't seen hide nor hair of the man since the convention. That's a real leader for you. Loses his primary, and does what Americans do in this great democracy of ours. Accepts defeat gracefully and goes back to his day job.

    So all that taken together -- the rise of Trump, right wing zealots controlling Congress, and zero leadership among leftist revolutuonaries other than the creepy Julian Assange who isn't even American -- I'll take a pass on the "revolution." I'm happy to hold the center through one more election cycle. Thank God for the center.


    Hmmmmmm you probably haven't been paying much attention. Sanders is hosting Taco trucks all over the country doing everything he can to get those few hundred former Bernie bros who have gone rogue back on the Clinton train. Just click on the Internet. There's but loads of examples of Bernie begging us to get back on board
    First and foremost, I'm paying attention to the voters in my swing district who could deliver the Electoral College to Donald Trump. Clinton is leading nationally, true. It is a much tighter race where it actually matters. I will not grow complacent until the final returns are in on election night.

    Next, I'm paying attention to speeches, forums, long- form interviews, etc., on C-Span. C-Span doesn't cover taco trucks. That must be a trending on Facebook thing. If that's where I'm supposed to find that news, yes, I missed it.

    See, the thing is, all you people on here decry the mainstream media, yet you prolifically consume it day in and day out, and perpetuate its influence by sharing the most ridiculous of stories. You play right into their sleazy hands every time you share a link. I decry the mainstream media and boycott it. Proudly.
    Boy oh boy ... you have it all figured out. I should probably move to Cuba or North Korea in order to get my news from one source. You're clearly much more aware then that lady you talked to in front of walmart

    Look you said Bernie was no where to be found and that you hadn't heard anything of the man ever since the convention. So I said to pay closer attention because that's completely inaccurate. Bernie is bending over backwards to help your queen get elected. You should demonstrate a little more appreciation to the guy, or to anyone who is devoting so much of their time and energy to help your candidate get elected.
  • CM189191 said:

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    CM189191 said:

    JimmyV said:

    I wish we could just vote already. Saw a flyer for early voting this morning which is a first for Massachusetts. Begins on 10/24 I believe. Really thinking about walking in right at 8am that day and getting it over with.

    I voted yesterday. Walked in at 4:20, registered with no ID, done voting and walked out before they closed at 4:30 pm. Easy, breezy, beautiful.
    Fraud. Or was it suppressor?
    No, yesterday was legit. When I voted again today it was fraud.
    a suppressed vote for Trump
    I'm not sure what you mean by this, please elaborate.
    Seeing how if you vote tomorrow you may have negated a trump vote. But if you're voting Trump, guess you supresse a Hillary vote. But if you voted Johnson, then you supressed a Hillary and a trump vote. But maybe you voted all three to cover and leverage? Or maybe all three votes went to Hirshon?
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,870

    Free said:

    You're awful and you thought selves if you think Trump can win.

    "you thought selves"?

    godfather?
    :lol:
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,870
    edited October 2016
    Free said:

    You're awful sure of yourselves if you think Trump can win. Or if he even wants to win.

    But hey, we're the fearful United States of America. The country that thrives on fear.

    Interesting. The US thrives on fear? ... Maybe it does. Or does it shrivel in its fear? Probably debatable, depending of what your priorities are and/or how you make your money, or if you're a politician, since a LOT of them thrive on disseminating fear.
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  • PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:

    You're awful sure of yourselves if you think Trump can win. Or if he even wants to win.

    But hey, we're the fearful United States of America. The country that thrives on fear.

    Interesting. The US thrives on fear? ... Maybe it does. Or does it shrivel in its fear? Probably debatable, depending of what your priorities are and/or how you make your money, or if you're a politician, since a LOT of them thrive on disseminating fear.
    What's the terror alert level today?
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927

    CM189191 said:

    CM189191 said:

    CM189191 said:

    JimmyV said:

    I wish we could just vote already. Saw a flyer for early voting this morning which is a first for Massachusetts. Begins on 10/24 I believe. Really thinking about walking in right at 8am that day and getting it over with.

    I voted yesterday. Walked in at 4:20, registered with no ID, done voting and walked out before they closed at 4:30 pm. Easy, breezy, beautiful.
    Fraud. Or was it suppressor?
    No, yesterday was legit. When I voted again today it was fraud.
    a suppressed vote for Trump
    I'm not sure what you mean by this, please elaborate.
    Seeing how if you vote tomorrow you may have negated a trump vote. But if you're voting Trump, guess you supresse a Hillary vote. But if you voted Johnson, then you supressed a Hillary and a trump vote. But maybe you voted all three to cover and leverage? Or maybe all three votes went to Hirshon?
    I'm not sure this makes any sense.
    Anyhow, I voted for the Muslim.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,870

    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:

    You're awful sure of yourselves if you think Trump can win. Or if he even wants to win.

    But hey, we're the fearful United States of America. The country that thrives on fear.

    Interesting. The US thrives on fear? ... Maybe it does. Or does it shrivel in its fear? Probably debatable, depending of what your priorities are and/or how you make your money, or if you're a politician, since a LOT of them thrive on disseminating fear.
    What's the terror alert level today?
    Yellow. Elevated = Significan risk of terrorist attack

    There is a Homeland Security app that you can download so that you can have the risk level always flashing on your homescreen.
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  • PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Free said:

    You're awful sure of yourselves if you think Trump can win. Or if he even wants to win.

    But hey, we're the fearful United States of America. The country that thrives on fear.

    Interesting. The US thrives on fear? ... Maybe it does. Or does it shrivel in its fear? Probably debatable, depending of what your priorities are and/or how you make your money, or if you're a politician, since a LOT of them thrive on disseminating fear.
    What's the terror alert level today?
    Yellow. Elevated = Significan risk of terrorist attack

    There is a Homeland Security app that you can download so that you can have the risk level always flashing on your homescreen.
    image
    I gave up looking at that a week after it started and thought Obama getting rid of it or not pushing DHS to insist every network scroll it was very well, grown up of him.
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  • what dreamswhat dreams Posts: 1,761
    tonifig8 said:



    tonifig8 said:

    Toniflig got one thing right: the "revolutionaries" (hahaha) will do some serious damage if or when Trump wins the election. That is no love of country. It's just more of the narcissistic, grandiose millenial playbook. "Look at our generation save the country! We're so amazing!"

    Then Toniflig provides examples of this grand revolutionary change:
    1. Trump -- yeah, there's an anti-corruption candidate for you.
    2. Congressional candidates losing their districts -- yeah, to be replaced by religious right wing zealots. Love that.
    3. "Look at Bernie" says Tonifig. Well, I would look if Bernie were anywhere to be found. But he ain't. Haven't seen hide nor hair of the man since the convention. That's a real leader for you. Loses his primary, and does what Americans do in this great democracy of ours. Accepts defeat gracefully and goes back to his day job.

    So all that taken together -- the rise of Trump, right wing zealots controlling Congress, and zero leadership among leftist revolutuonaries other than the creepy Julian Assange who isn't even American -- I'll take a pass on the "revolution." I'm happy to hold the center through one more election cycle. Thank God for the center.


    Hmmmmmm you probably haven't been paying much attention. Sanders is hosting Taco trucks all over the country doing everything he can to get those few hundred former Bernie bros who have gone rogue back on the Clinton train. Just click on the Internet. There's but loads of examples of Bernie begging us to get back on board
    First and foremost, I'm paying attention to the voters in my swing district who could deliver the Electoral College to Donald Trump. Clinton is leading nationally, true. It is a much tighter race where it actually matters. I will not grow complacent until the final returns are in on election night.

    Next, I'm paying attention to speeches, forums, long- form interviews, etc., on C-Span. C-Span doesn't cover taco trucks. That must be a trending on Facebook thing. If that's where I'm supposed to find that news, yes, I missed it.

    See, the thing is, all you people on here decry the mainstream media, yet you prolifically consume it day in and day out, and perpetuate its influence by sharing the most ridiculous of stories. You play right into their sleazy hands every time you share a link. I decry the mainstream media and boycott it. Proudly.
    Boy oh boy ... you have it all figured out. I should probably move to Cuba or North Korea in order to get my news from one source. You're clearly much more aware then that lady you talked to in front of walmart

    Look you said Bernie was no where to be found and that you hadn't heard anything of the man ever since the convention. So I said to pay closer attention because that's completely inaccurate. Bernie is bending over backwards to help your queen get elected. You should demonstrate a little more appreciation to the guy, or to anyone who is devoting so much of their time and energy to help your candidate get elected.
    AND THIS is why I'm dropping out of here again. Anyone who doesn't understand what C-Span is -- not worth my time to even try to explain stupid.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,870
    edited October 2016
    :confused: Nothing he said there suggests that he doesn't understand what C-Span is. I don't understand why you are being so intolerant. I think you have something to contribute so wish you'd stick around... but only if you stop just coming along, brow-beating everyone, insulting us all, declaring your superiority, and then running away. Sheesh.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books Posts: 2,672

    tonifig8 said:



    tonifig8 said:

    Toniflig got one thing right: the "revolutionaries" (hahaha) will do some serious damage if or when Trump wins the election. That is no love of country. It's just more of the narcissistic, grandiose millenial playbook. "Look at our generation save the country! We're so amazing!"

    Then Toniflig provides examples of this grand revolutionary change:
    1. Trump -- yeah, there's an anti-corruption candidate for you.
    2. Congressional candidates losing their districts -- yeah, to be replaced by religious right wing zealots. Love that.
    3. "Look at Bernie" says Tonifig. Well, I would look if Bernie were anywhere to be found. But he ain't. Haven't seen hide nor hair of the man since the convention. That's a real leader for you. Loses his primary, and does what Americans do in this great democracy of ours. Accepts defeat gracefully and goes back to his day job.

    So all that taken together -- the rise of Trump, right wing zealots controlling Congress, and zero leadership among leftist revolutuonaries other than the creepy Julian Assange who isn't even American -- I'll take a pass on the "revolution." I'm happy to hold the center through one more election cycle. Thank God for the center.


    Hmmmmmm you probably haven't been paying much attention. Sanders is hosting Taco trucks all over the country doing everything he can to get those few hundred former Bernie bros who have gone rogue back on the Clinton train. Just click on the Internet. There's but loads of examples of Bernie begging us to get back on board
    First and foremost, I'm paying attention to the voters in my swing district who could deliver the Electoral College to Donald Trump. Clinton is leading nationally, true. It is a much tighter race where it actually matters. I will not grow complacent until the final returns are in on election night.

    Next, I'm paying attention to speeches, forums, long- form interviews, etc., on C-Span. C-Span doesn't cover taco trucks. That must be a trending on Facebook thing. If that's where I'm supposed to find that news, yes, I missed it.

    See, the thing is, all you people on here decry the mainstream media, yet you prolifically consume it day in and day out, and perpetuate its influence by sharing the most ridiculous of stories. You play right into their sleazy hands every time you share a link. I decry the mainstream media and boycott it. Proudly.
    Boy oh boy ... you have it all figured out. I should probably move to Cuba or North Korea in order to get my news from one source. You're clearly much more aware then that lady you talked to in front of walmart

    Look you said Bernie was no where to be found and that you hadn't heard anything of the man ever since the convention. So I said to pay closer attention because that's completely inaccurate. Bernie is bending over backwards to help your queen get elected. You should demonstrate a little more appreciation to the guy, or to anyone who is devoting so much of their time and energy to help your candidate get elected.
    AND THIS is why I'm dropping out of here again. Anyone who doesn't understand what C-Span is -- not worth my time to even try to explain stupid.
    Now you're calling me stupid? You said Sanders was nowhere to be seen after the convention, right?

    Here is Sanders in Michigan yesterday. Must be a coincidence, but here is the proof:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/06/donald-trump-michigan-bernie-sanders-clinton-campaign

    I'm pretty sure he's been campaigning hard for your queen. Maybe you should try other news sources?
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Kat said:

    Rudy Giuliani's daughter is reportedly voting for Secretary Clinton and many Evangelicals are signing a letter that they cannot vote for Mr. Trump for religious reasons. Just some news of today.

    $100 says I know who Dick Cheney will vote for.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Kat said:

    But not here since name-calling is not ok. Thanks.

    So why is calling people that support Trump deplorables ok here?
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited October 2016
    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:



    tonifig8 said:

    Toniflig got one thing right: the "revolutionaries" (hahaha) will do some serious damage if or when Trump wins the election. That is no love of country. It's just more of the narcissistic, grandiose millenial playbook. "Look at our generation save the country! We're so amazing!"

    Then Toniflig provides examples of this grand revolutionary change:
    1. Trump -- yeah, there's an anti-corruption candidate for you.
    2. Congressional candidates losing their districts -- yeah, to be replaced by religious right wing zealots. Love that.
    3. "Look at Bernie" says Tonifig. Well, I would look if Bernie were anywhere to be found. But he ain't. Haven't seen hide nor hair of the man since the convention. That's a real leader for you. Loses his primary, and does what Americans do in this great democracy of ours. Accepts defeat gracefully and goes back to his day job.

    So all that taken together -- the rise of Trump, right wing zealots controlling Congress, and zero leadership among leftist revolutuonaries other than the creepy Julian Assange who isn't even American -- I'll take a pass on the "revolution." I'm happy to hold the center through one more election cycle. Thank God for the center.


    Hmmmmmm you probably haven't been paying much attention. Sanders is hosting Taco trucks all over the country doing everything he can to get those few hundred former Bernie bros who have gone rogue back on the Clinton train. Just click on the Internet. There's but loads of examples of Bernie begging us to get back on board
    First and foremost, I'm paying attention to the voters in my swing district who could deliver the Electoral College to Donald Trump. Clinton is leading nationally, true. It is a much tighter race where it actually matters. I will not grow complacent until the final returns are in on election night.

    Next, I'm paying attention to speeches, forums, long- form interviews, etc., on C-Span. C-Span doesn't cover taco trucks. That must be a trending on Facebook thing. If that's where I'm supposed to find that news, yes, I missed it.

    See, the thing is, all you people on here decry the mainstream media, yet you prolifically consume it day in and day out, and perpetuate its influence by sharing the most ridiculous of stories. You play right into their sleazy hands every time you share a link. I decry the mainstream media and boycott it. Proudly.
    Boy oh boy ... you have it all figured out. I should probably move to Cuba or North Korea in order to get my news from one source. You're clearly much more aware then that lady you talked to in front of walmart

    Look you said Bernie was no where to be found and that you hadn't heard anything of the man ever since the convention. So I said to pay closer attention because that's completely inaccurate. Bernie is bending over backwards to help your queen get elected. You should demonstrate a little more appreciation to the guy, or to anyone who is devoting so much of their time and energy to help your candidate get elected.
    AND THIS is why I'm dropping out of here again. Anyone who doesn't understand what C-Span is -- not worth my time to even try to explain stupid.
    Now you're calling me stupid? You said Sanders was nowhere to be seen after the convention, right?

    Here is Sanders in Michigan yesterday. Must be a coincidence, but here is the proof:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/06/donald-trump-michigan-bernie-sanders-clinton-campaign

    I'm pretty sure he's been campaigning hard for your queen. Maybe you should try other news sources?
    How about that link of Bernie with Hillary at that rally that very few showed up to?
  • KatKat Posts: 4,831
    unsung said:

    Kat said:

    But not here since name-calling is not ok. Thanks.

    So why is calling people that support Trump deplorables ok here?
    It isn't. Everyone needs to knock it off. Thanks for bringing it up. Have a great weekend.
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,309
    unsung said:

    Kat said:

    But not here since name-calling is not ok. Thanks.

    So why is calling people that support Trump deplorables ok here?
    If you happen to be talking about me, you can see clearly that I did not do that. I said Trump's supporters are deplorables + the party faithful. Reading is fundamental (RIF).
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,309

    mrussel1 said:

    Can someone please explain to me how any president would overturn Citizen's United? Please? Pretty please? Someone that understands our representational democracy and the three equal branches of gov't. If a link to schoolhouse rock is required, that's fine.

    Appoint Supreme Court Justices with brains larger than a pea and just wait.....
    Negative... You also need a case that is different on its merits to be heard. You can't just re-try the same case. That also means you would likely need a new law since that part of M/F is struck down already.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,309
    rssesq said:

    an amendment to the constitution senor sequitor

    Presidents pass amendments???

    Everyone needs to try again.

    I pointed out earlier all the things that have to happen for CU to essentially be overturned. I was challenging Free's statement about it.
  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books Posts: 2,672
    edited October 2016
    mrussel1 said:

    tonifig8 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    pjhawks said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    I can't believe...or I guess I can...that Hillary used a child actor to ask her a question in Pennsylvania. What the hell is wrong with her and her campaign? Shit like this is just so unnecessary.

    Source? Let me guess....infowars? zerohedge? Drudge?
    Multiple sources...linked you a page below that has them all linked as you go through it. You can deny this if you want but then you become someone who is just running cover Hillary always and all the time. I criticize Trump plenty so it shouldn't be hard to look at this and the Steve Harvey interview and say...."I like Hillary but why does her campaign have to do shit like this all the time".

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/10/07/sure-looks-like-girls-townhall-question-hillary-staged/
    wait what? most of the people at these events are invited by the parties. it's a rally for a particular candidate not a free for all. are we really surprised a local politician and his family where there? i know there is a lot of dislike for hillary but wtf? really, this is the best shit people can come up with this week? fuck i guess she would have been better off calling the girl a ms piggy :confounded:
    That was my first thought when I heard it on Hannity yesterday.
    Really? This is an issue?

    I think it's an issue for conservatives because they know it was a damn good question that will really resonate with young mothers and bigger women.
    You guys have all lost it. Really. Zero ability for anybody on here to criticize the phoniness of it all. It isn't about destroying the girl or about even whether it's a good question. The point is that this whole thing is a massive charade and you all swallow it down to defeat a greater evil. Whatever happened to the days of hope and change. So amazed how this forum turned into robot city. Not a free thinker left in the bunch.
    You can't be foolish enough to think that political chicanery just started with the Clinton campaign or Democrats. It goes back to the Greeks. Aren't you the one that is foolish and naive to think that phoniness is recent?
    Ouch. That's a stab in the back for many of us.
    I bet the Greeks didn't have smart phones.

    What do you suggest we do, russ? Vote Clinton and then vote in other dems that will work on progressive causes? Pray that she and Some of the corrupt establishment folks work hard to overturn CU? Give me something to work with. Doesn't need to be a complicated explanation. A common sense approach.
    Ah yes.. you're right they didn't have smart phones. And that's why I always argue that gov't today is the most transparent it has ever been in human history. The common people have much more access to information than ever.

    But back to your question, we were talking about staged political events, not CU. Senator Clinton voted for McCain-Feingold. She has said she will appoint justices that believe that corporations are not people and the soft money ban. But as you well know, two things need to happen: 1. She has to appoint the justices and 2. there must be a case that is different on the merits than CU in order for it to be heard. So it's not like she can just do an executive order first day in office. The other option of course is an Amendment, but that would be just about impossible, as you know.
    I never saw this reply. Clinton bringing in the next Supreme Justice is much better then Trump having that responsibility, I'll give you that. The house kind of screwed themselves in not appointing Obama's nominee because there is a small group of people that might have voted for Trump, if it wasn't him who had the responsibility of nominating the next SJ. A lot of people fear that more then his presidency, that's something I fear more then his Presidency.
    On the flip side many of us don't trust Clinton or many of the high ranking establishment politicians - this might just be another opportunity for her to get someone in there who will play politics. Clinton would probably have the best lawyers to file a new suit regarding CU - shit they can fool the FBI and most of the country. You know she has the best. haha

    More transparency then any other point in history? I get your point, but look at what Snowden and Assange have exposed. Look at what many other whistle blowers have exposed. Look the NSA, they have been inspecting every single email yahoo subscribers were sending, before the actual recipients saw the actual messages.
    That's not transparency, and that's certainly coming from top. Large scale and small scale secrecy. Shit I'm still waiting on those live meetings Obama was going to host via C-Span (which by the way I never watch- hahaha) - I think he hosted one event and that was with a republican group, which was like a few months into his presidency and was political theater.

    A very complicated subject, but if you keep searching you'll discover information that will make you wonder what the hell is really going on. That's not being a conspiracy nut.



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  • Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books Posts: 2,672
    Is this even relevant?

    HRC Speeches to Wall St.
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited October 2016
    tonifig8 said:

    Is this even relevant?

    HRC Speeches to Wall St.
    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927

    Nope, nothing to see with podesta emails plus trump is a pig.
    Any enviros following this thread?
    Podesta emails:
    The enviros may latch onto this going forward. Have we discussed when she will come out against Keystone? After POTUS vetoes? > > and more than $1 million in payments to Mr. Clinton by a Canadian bank and major shareholder in the Keystone XL oil pipeline around the time the project was being debated in the State Department.
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    mrussel1 said:



    unsung said:

    Kat said:

    But not here since name-calling is not ok. Thanks.

    So why is calling people that support Trump deplorables ok here?
    If you happen to be talking about me, you can see clearly that I did not do that. I said Trump's supporters are deplorables + the party faithful. Reading is fundamental (RIF).
    LOL
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    pjhawks said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    I can't believe...or I guess I can...that Hillary used a child actor to ask her a question in Pennsylvania. What the hell is wrong with her and her campaign? Shit like this is just so unnecessary.

    Source? Let me guess....infowars? zerohedge? Drudge?
    Multiple sources...linked you a page below that has them all linked as you go through it. You can deny this if you want but then you become someone who is just running cover Hillary always and all the time. I criticize Trump plenty so it shouldn't be hard to look at this and the Steve Harvey interview and say...."I like Hillary but why does her campaign have to do shit like this all the time".

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/10/07/sure-looks-like-girls-townhall-question-hillary-staged/
    wait what? most of the people at these events are invited by the parties. it's a rally for a particular candidate not a free for all. are we really surprised a local politician and his family where there? i know there is a lot of dislike for hillary but wtf? really, this is the best shit people can come up with this week? fuck i guess she would have been better off calling the girl a ms piggy :confounded:
    That was my first thought when I heard it on Hannity yesterday.
    Really? This is an issue?

    I think it's an issue for conservatives because they know it was a damn good question that will really resonate with young mothers and bigger women.
    You guys have all lost it. Really. Zero ability for anybody on here to criticize the phoniness of it all. It isn't about destroying the girl or about even whether it's a good question. The point is that this whole thing is a massive charade and you all swallow it down to defeat a greater evil. Whatever happened to the days of hope and change. So amazed how this forum turned into robot city. Not a free thinker left in the bunch.
    You can't be foolish enough to think that political chicanery just started with the Clinton campaign or Democrats. It goes back to the Greeks. Aren't you the one that is foolish and naive to think that phoniness is recent?
    Of course not but cameras and google capture this shit all the time now. Again I am amazed that none of you demand better. You all have the same critique..."who cares?", "it's been happening forever!", "you don't know politics". Faith in government and government institutions is at an all time low. Faith in media is at an all time low. The two candidates have brutal honest and trustworthy numbers and yet this shit continues. Do you all have such a low opinion of Hilary that you don't think she can handle organic questions? She is on her way to victory and you are setting the table for an administration will have blown off all sorts of accountability issues. I know you don't care one iota about the thoughts and feelings of the deplorables but you will want your next leader to improve those faith in government numbers immediately just for the overall health of your nation. That will be very difficult if you all continue to brush off the phonyness.
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