Hillary won more votes for President

mrussel1

usamamasan1 said:

Hillary is a liar, a hag, and a crony capitalist that can't even keep her husband in her own bed.

Such a idiotic comment. Trump can't keep himself in his wife's bed. What happened to personal responsibility? Hilarious that Trump supporters try to hang Bill's infidelities around Hillary when he clearly cheated on Ivana at a minimum and probably Marla. And he bragged about sleeping with married women. I can't wait until they try that shit again in the general. He is a POS and a draft dodger. But you know that already.

PJfanwillneverleave1

mrussel1 said:

usamamasan1 said:

Hillary is a liar, a hag, and a crony capitalist that can't even keep her husband in her own bed.

Such a idiotic comment. Trump can't keep himself in his wife's bed. What happened to personal responsibility? Hilarious that Trump supporters try to hang Bill's infidelities around Hillary when he clearly cheated on Ivana at a minimum and probably Marla. And he bragged about sleeping with married women. I can't wait until they try that shit again in the general. He is a POS and a draft dodger. But you know that already.

It is not an idiotic comment.
She will not be the next POTUS because she will forever be dogged with press questions about infidelity.
Imagine Hillary addressing muslims?

mrussel1

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

mrussel1 said:

usamamasan1 said:

Hillary is a liar, a hag, and a crony capitalist that can't even keep her husband in her own bed.

Such a idiotic comment. Trump can't keep himself in his wife's bed. What happened to personal responsibility? Hilarious that Trump supporters try to hang Bill's infidelities around Hillary when he clearly cheated on Ivana at a minimum and probably Marla. And he bragged about sleeping with married women. I can't wait until they try that shit again in the general. He is a POS and a draft dodger. But you know that already.

It is not an idiotic comment.
She will not be the next POTUS because she will forever be dogged with press questions about infidelity.
Imagine Hillary addressing muslims?

She didn't cheat on her husband. Trump cheated on his wives. Democrats naturally attract 53-55% of women voters. Do you really think attacking Hillary by blaming her for Bill's infidelities is going to attract the 62% of women voters necessary for Trump to win the election? Basically, you are saying that this line of attack is going to turn a natural 5% deficit into a 12% positive. I'm sorry, that's fantasy land. It is an idiotic comment because it's a politically untenable attack for Trump to take.

PJfanwillneverleave1

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

mrussel1 said:

usamamasan1 said:

Hillary is a liar, a hag, and a crony capitalist that can't even keep her husband in her own bed.

Such a idiotic comment. Trump can't keep himself in his wife's bed. What happened to personal responsibility? Hilarious that Trump supporters try to hang Bill's infidelities around Hillary when he clearly cheated on Ivana at a minimum and probably Marla. And he bragged about sleeping with married women. I can't wait until they try that shit again in the general. He is a POS and a draft dodger. But you know that already.

It is not an idiotic comment.
She will not be the next POTUS because she will forever be dogged with press questions about infidelity.
Imagine Hillary addressing muslims?

She didn't cheat on her husband. Trump cheated on his wives. Democrats naturally attract 53-55% of women voters. Do you really think attacking Hillary by blaming her for Bill's infidelities is going to attract the 62% of women voters necessary for Trump to win the election? Basically, you are saying that this line of attack is going to turn a natural 5% deficit into a 12% positive. I'm sorry, that's fantasy land. It is an idiotic comment because it's a politically untenable attack for Trump to take.

The world we live in for now is that women are unequal.
Give or take.
On the political spectrum it is ok for a male to cheat.
Kind of like other countries we know.....
At this time she has this huge shadow of sex stuff attached.
Doesn't appeal to men,
Certainly doesn't appeal to faithful people.
She is dogged.

mrussel1

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

mrussel1 said:

usamamasan1 said:

Hillary is a liar, a hag, and a crony capitalist that can't even keep her husband in her own bed.

Such a idiotic comment. Trump can't keep himself in his wife's bed. What happened to personal responsibility? Hilarious that Trump supporters try to hang Bill's infidelities around Hillary when he clearly cheated on Ivana at a minimum and probably Marla. And he bragged about sleeping with married women. I can't wait until they try that shit again in the general. He is a POS and a draft dodger. But you know that already.

It is not an idiotic comment.
She will not be the next POTUS because she will forever be dogged with press questions about infidelity.
Imagine Hillary addressing muslims?

She didn't cheat on her husband. Trump cheated on his wives. Democrats naturally attract 53-55% of women voters. Do you really think attacking Hillary by blaming her for Bill's infidelities is going to attract the 62% of women voters necessary for Trump to win the election? Basically, you are saying that this line of attack is going to turn a natural 5% deficit into a 12% positive. I'm sorry, that's fantasy land. It is an idiotic comment because it's a politically untenable attack for Trump to take.

The world we live in for now is that women are unequal.
Give or take.
On the political spectrum it is ok for a male to cheat.
Kind of like other countries we know.....
At this time she has this huge shadow of sex stuff attached.
Doesn't appeal to men,
Certainly doesn't appeal to faithful people.
She is dogged.

So you are saying that she will reverse the trend of Dems winning the women vote by 5 points, due to Bill's infidelities. And that flight of voters will be to Trump, who women will respect more even though he is a cheater himself. That's what you are saying? You understand other countries don't vote for our POTUS, right?

PJfanwillneverleave1

I am saying that if she gets in she will be dogged by the press constantly about bills infidelity.
It will overshadow everything she wants to accomplish - kind of like now, she is known as the wife of a cheating husband in the political spectrum.

mrussel1

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

I am saying that if she gets in she will be dogged by the press constantly about bills infidelity.
It will overshadow everything she wants to accomplish - kind of like now, she is known as the wife of a cheating husband in the political spectrum.

Okay, fair enough. I thought you were arguing she would lose the election. But I still disagree. She's been a Senator and Sec'y of State and has been running for president for two years. I really don't think the press will harp on something excruciatingly covered 15+ years ago. And I think HIllary has a much bigger identity than 'cheater's wife'.

PJfanwillneverleave1

In the political spectrum she is shining.
But her reflection will always be that bill wife woman at every point (read press questions about lewinsky)
The press will re-cover everything once fresh meat is in the whitehouse.

mrussel1

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

In the political spectrum she is shining.
But her reflection will always be that bill wife woman at every point (read press questions about lewinsky)
The press will re-cover everything once fresh meat is in the whitehouse.

Fine, but who cares? I really don't think it's going to inhibit her from doing her job. It's not like Rose Garden press conference will be filled with question about Paula Jones circa 1988.

PJfanwillneverleave1

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

mrussel1 said:

usamamasan1 said:

Hillary is a liar, a hag, and a crony capitalist that can't even keep her husband in her own bed.

Such a idiotic comment. Trump can't keep himself in his wife's bed. What happened to personal responsibility? Hilarious that Trump supporters try to hang Bill's infidelities around Hillary when he clearly cheated on Ivana at a minimum and probably Marla. And he bragged about sleeping with married women. I can't wait until they try that shit again in the general. He is a POS and a draft dodger. But you know that already.

It is not an idiotic comment.
She will not be the next POTUS because she will forever be dogged with press questions about infidelity.
Imagine Hillary addressing muslims?

She didn't cheat on her husband. Trump cheated on his wives. Democrats naturally attract 53-55% of women voters. Do you really think attacking Hillary by blaming her for Bill's infidelities is going to attract the 62% of women voters necessary for Trump to win the election? Basically, you are saying that this line of attack is going to turn a natural 5% deficit into a 12% positive. I'm sorry, that's fantasy land. It is an idiotic comment because it's a politically untenable attack for Trump to take.

The world we live in for now is that women are unequal.
Give or take.
On the political spectrum it is ok for a male to cheat.
Kind of like other countries we know.....
At this time she has this huge shadow of sex stuff attached.
Doesn't appeal to men,
Certainly doesn't appeal to faithful people.
She is dogged.

So you are saying that she will reverse the trend of Dems winning the women vote by 5 points, due to Bill's infidelities. And that flight of voters will be to Trump, who women will respect more even though he is a cheater himself. That's what you are saying? You understand other countries don't vote for our POTUS, right?

And to answer this.
Yes, but your country as a superpower dictates world policy.
So the rest of the world hopes to fucking jebus you guys get it right.

usamamasan1

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

mrussel1 said:

usamamasan1 said:

Hillary is a liar, a hag, and a crony capitalist that can't even keep her husband in her own bed.

Such a idiotic comment. Trump can't keep himself in his wife's bed. What happened to personal responsibility? Hilarious that Trump supporters try to hang Bill's infidelities around Hillary when he clearly cheated on Ivana at a minimum and probably Marla. And he bragged about sleeping with married women. I can't wait until they try that shit again in the general. He is a POS and a draft dodger. But you know that already.

It is not an idiotic comment.
She will not be the next POTUS because she will forever be dogged with press questions about infidelity.
Imagine Hillary addressing muslims?

She didn't cheat on her husband. Trump cheated on his wives. Democrats naturally attract 53-55% of women voters. Do you really think attacking Hillary by blaming her for Bill's infidelities is going to attract the 62% of women voters necessary for Trump to win the election? Basically, you are saying that this line of attack is going to turn a natural 5% deficit into a 12% positive. I'm sorry, that's fantasy land. It is an idiotic comment because it's a politically untenable attack for Trump to take.

97% of all statistics are made up, on the spot. Nice numbers Ace!

usamamasan1

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

I am saying that if she gets in she will be dogged by the press constantly about bills infidelity.
It will overshadow everything she wants to accomplish - kind of like now, she is known as the wife of a cheating husband in the political spectrum.

Okay, fair enough. I thought you were arguing she would lose the election. But I still disagree. She's been a Senator and Sec'y of State and has been running for president for two years. I really don't think the press will harp on something excruciatingly covered 15+ years ago. And I think HIllary has a much bigger identity than 'cheater's wife'.

True,
Elitist, hag, crony capitalist, liar.

mrussel1

usamamasan1 said:

mrussel1 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

mrussel1 said:

usamamasan1 said:

Hillary is a liar, a hag, and a crony capitalist that can't even keep her husband in her own bed.

Such a idiotic comment. Trump can't keep himself in his wife's bed. What happened to personal responsibility? Hilarious that Trump supporters try to hang Bill's infidelities around Hillary when he clearly cheated on Ivana at a minimum and probably Marla. And he bragged about sleeping with married women. I can't wait until they try that shit again in the general. He is a POS and a draft dodger. But you know that already.

It is not an idiotic comment.
She will not be the next POTUS because she will forever be dogged with press questions about infidelity.
Imagine Hillary addressing muslims?

She didn't cheat on her husband. Trump cheated on his wives. Democrats naturally attract 53-55% of women voters. Do you really think attacking Hillary by blaming her for Bill's infidelities is going to attract the 62% of women voters necessary for Trump to win the election? Basically, you are saying that this line of attack is going to turn a natural 5% deficit into a 12% positive. I'm sorry, that's fantasy land. It is an idiotic comment because it's a politically untenable attack for Trump to take.

97% of all statistics are made up, on the spot. Nice numbers Ace!

Educate yourself a little bit please. I'm tired of you embarrassing yourself on these boards. It will also help you be prepared for Trump's general election loss. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/donald-trump-needs-7-of-10-white-guys-213699

JC29856

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

said no one “has ever produced a shred of evidence supporting the theory that Hillary Clinton ever took action as secretary of state to support the interests of donors to the Clinton Foundation.” = "no one has ever produced a contribution form in black and white that states in English, I'm only making this $1M contribution because as sec of state I want [insert here]" signed and dated by the donor and Hillary R Clinton

And you think Republican oppo researchers, congressional investigators, etc. haven't tried to find evidence? It's not as if a confession is the burden the proof.

What republican researchers? What congressional investigations?
You make it seem like this is a newly formed "charity" by political nobody's.

So you think her congress buddies are going to investigate her foundation?
You think the republicans are going to bury her now so Bernie can win the nomination and landslide whoever their nominee is? You think the republicans are going to bury her now instead of having Bernie do some if the work for them not to mention deplete her campaign funds?

Precisely... what Congressional Hearings? None..cuz there's nothing there. You are trying to convince someone that:

1. Hillary has only friends on the Hill after 7 Benghazi investigations? You think these were sham investigations by her GOP buddies?

2. They are investigating the hell out of emails now. You think this nouveau Iran Contra type accusation is the real bombshell in the group, and you've got the intel but the GOP is just lying in wait?

3. That the GOP is actually waiting for Bernie to spring it? Bernie who doesn't have subpoena power but the GOP House and Senate do.. they are waiting for Bernie to spring into action? Since he is just about in an insurmountable delegate deficit, don't you think it's time for him to do it?

Is it possible that this is the GOPs "October Surprise"? I suppose, but considering how aggressive they have gone after her on Benghazi and email, I find it curious that this is the big one for them.

You're trying to convince yourself that congressional hearings and investigations are something more than grandstanding dog and pony shit show circle jerks.
Do yourself a favor and look up the # of and hours of congressional investigations and hearings and compare it to the # punishments hanged down from.

usamamasan1

Tuh,
Get over being tired about me. It appears you have much to do worrying about Making America Great Again!
Please do your best to contribute to our GDP please.

usamamasan1

usamamasan1 said:

Hillary is a liar, a hag, and a crony capitalist that can't even keep her husband in her own bed.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lFMMcqHYqDI

mrussel1

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

said no one “has ever produced a shred of evidence supporting the theory that Hillary Clinton ever took action as secretary of state to support the interests of donors to the Clinton Foundation.” = "no one has ever produced a contribution form in black and white that states in English, I'm only making this $1M contribution because as sec of state I want [insert here]" signed and dated by the donor and Hillary R Clinton

And you think Republican oppo researchers, congressional investigators, etc. haven't tried to find evidence? It's not as if a confession is the burden the proof.

What republican researchers? What congressional investigations?
You make it seem like this is a newly formed "charity" by political nobody's.

So you think her congress buddies are going to investigate her foundation?
You think the republicans are going to bury her now so Bernie can win the nomination and landslide whoever their nominee is? You think the republicans are going to bury her now instead of having Bernie do some if the work for them not to mention deplete her campaign funds?

Precisely... what Congressional Hearings? None..cuz there's nothing there. You are trying to convince someone that:

1. Hillary has only friends on the Hill after 7 Benghazi investigations? You think these were sham investigations by her GOP buddies?

2. They are investigating the hell out of emails now. You think this nouveau Iran Contra type accusation is the real bombshell in the group, and you've got the intel but the GOP is just lying in wait?

3. That the GOP is actually waiting for Bernie to spring it? Bernie who doesn't have subpoena power but the GOP House and Senate do.. they are waiting for Bernie to spring into action? Since he is just about in an insurmountable delegate deficit, don't you think it's time for him to do it?

Is it possible that this is the GOPs "October Surprise"? I suppose, but considering how aggressive they have gone after her on Benghazi and email, I find it curious that this is the big one for them.

You're trying to convince yourself that congressional hearings and investigations are something more than grandstanding dog and pony shit show circle jerks.
Do yourself a favor and look up the # of and hours of congressional investigations and hearings and compare it to the # punishments hanged down from.

Precisely. They are grandstanding with no real consequences, therefore the bar to conduct hearings is pretty damn low. If there was a show to be had on the issue, the GOP would have put one up already.

mrussel1

usamamasan1 said:

Tuh,
Get over being tired about me. It appears you have much to do worrying about Making America Great Again!
Please do your best to contribute to our GDP please.

You are right, my tolerance for trolling and general douchebaggery is too low.

eddiec

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

I am saying that if she gets in she will be dogged by the press constantly about bills infidelity.
It will overshadow everything she wants to accomplish - kind of like now, she is known as the wife of a cheating husband in the political spectrum.

Nobody cares about that anymore. You think she could have gotten to this stage if that was an issue?

JC29856

Federal law designates the secretary of state as “responsible for the continuous supervision and general direction of sales” of arms, military hardware and services to foreign countries. In practice, that meant that Clinton was charged with rejecting or approving weapons deals — and when it came to Clinton Foundation donors, Hillary Clinton’s State Department did a whole lot of approving.