The officers hand was inside the vehicle. He tried to speed away, which would result in dragging/running over the officer. He was justified in shooting him. His life was in danger. What's so hard to see about that?
Of course you scream racism (again) when it would have happened the same way if it was a black teenager or a elf grandma. Either way it's gonna happen. Race is irrelevant.
But I guess you just have to have something for your 2 minute hate, right?
I havent watched the video, kinda dont want to see someone murdered ya know? If YOU have watched , is your sense that he "sped" away? Because others I have heard from is that it started to roll forward. Big difference in rolling and speeding away. Seems he was slow enough for the cop to get his gun out, take headshot aim and fire while "being dragged " by the vehicle.
It's pretty safe to watch the video, no gore....it all happens so quick you can't really even see the shot. But it does give you an idea of how quick it went down.
The officers hand was inside the vehicle. He tried to speed away, which would result in dragging/running over the officer. He was justified in shooting him. His life was in danger. What's so hard to see about that?
Of course you scream racism (again) when it would have happened the same way if it was a black teenager or a elf grandma. Either way it's gonna happen. Race is irrelevant.
But I guess you just have to have something for your 2 minute hate, right?
The officers hand was inside the vehicle. He tried to speed away, which would result in dragging/running over the officer. He was justified in shooting him. His life was in danger. What's so hard to see about that?
Of course you scream racism (again) when it would have happened the same way if it was a black teenager or a elf grandma. Either way it's gonna happen. Race is irrelevant.
But I guess you just have to have something for your 2 minute hate, right?
I havent watched the video, kinda dont want to see someone murdered ya know? If YOU have watched , is your sense that he "sped" away? Because others I have heard from is that it started to roll forward. Big difference in rolling and speeding away. Seems he was slow enough for the cop to get his gun out, take headshot aim and fire while "being dragged " by the vehicle.
It's pretty safe to watch the video, no gore....it all happens so quick you can't really even see the shot. But it does give you an idea of how quick it went down.
No, he didn't "speed" away. He never got the chance. The cop opens his door, Dubose closes it, the cop reaches in, Dubose starts the car and bam, shot in the head. Watch how long it takes for anyone to check on Dubose after they turn his car off. As for an "order?" The cop says, " why don't you go ahead and unbuckle your seatbelt for me." And before Dubose can, he's opening the door. He never said, "step out of the car." When the cop reaches in after opening the door, Dubose starts the car. Split second, bam, shot in the head. For missing a front license plate.
The aftermath, when more cops show up? Looks keystone to me and I think I saw Musky.
The officers hand was inside the vehicle. He tried to speed away, which would result in dragging/running over the officer. He was justified in shooting him. His life was in danger. What's so hard to see about that?
Of course you scream racism (again) when it would have happened the same way if it was a black teenager or a elf grandma. Either way it's gonna happen. Race is irrelevant.
But I guess you just have to have something for your 2 minute hate, right?
I havent watched the video, kinda dont want to see someone murdered ya know? If YOU have watched , is your sense that he "sped" away? Because others I have heard from is that it started to roll forward. Big difference in rolling and speeding away. Seems he was slow enough for the cop to get his gun out, take headshot aim and fire while "being dragged " by the vehicle.
It's pretty safe to watch the video, no gore....it all happens so quick you can't really even see the shot. But it does give you an idea of how quick it went down.
No, he didn't "speed" away. He never got the chance. The cop opens his door, Dubose closes it, the cop reaches in, Dubose starts the car and bam, shot in the head. Watch how long it takes for anyone to check on Dubose after they turn his car off. As for an "order?" The cop says, " why don't you go ahead and unbuckle your seatbelt for me." And before Dubose can, he's opening the door. He never said, "step out of the car." When the cop reaches in after opening the door, Dubose starts the car. Split second, bam, shot in the head. For missing a front license plate.
The aftermath, when more cops show up? Looks keystone to me and I think I saw Musky.
He started the car before the cop lunged in. Which raises the question, is it procedure to lunge into a vehicle that is attempting to flee? That seems counter intuitive to me.
The officers hand was inside the vehicle. He tried to speed away, which would result in dragging/running over the officer. He was justified in shooting him. His life was in danger. What's so hard to see about that?
Of course you scream racism (again) when it would have happened the same way if it was a black teenager or a elf grandma. Either way it's gonna happen. Race is irrelevant.
But I guess you just have to have something for your 2 minute hate, right?
Holy shit
When someone drives away from a cop they get shot in the head? By the way, the car did drive away and no on got dragged or ran over. So shooting him did absolutely nothing for his safety. What is so hard to see about that?
Makes absolutely no difference to me whether this guy was white, black, yellow, blue, green or red. That cop had no business shooting that guy in his head from inches away and anyone who says otherwise is a fucking moron...fact
The officers hand was inside the vehicle. He tried to speed away, which would result in dragging/running over the officer. He was justified in shooting him. His life was in danger. What's so hard to see abo?
Of course you scream racism (again) when it would have happened the same way if it was a black teenager or a elf grandma. Either way it's gonna happen. Race is irrelevant. But I guess you just have to have something for your 2 minute hate, right?
I havent watched the video, kinda dont want to see someone murdered ya know? If YOU have watched , is your sense that he "sped" away? Because others I have heard from is that it started to roll forward. Big difference in rolling and speeding away. Seems he was slow enough for the cop to get his gun out, take headshot aim and fire while "being dragged " by the vehicle.
It's pretty safe to watch the video, no gore....it all happens so quick you can't really even see the shot. But it does give you an idea of how quick it went down.
No, he didn't "speed" away. He never got the chance. The cop opens his door, Dubose closes it, the cop reaches in, Dubose starts the car and bam, shot in the head. Watch how long it takes for anyone to check on Dubose after they turn his car off. As for an "order?" The cop says, " why don't you go ahead and unbuckle your seatbelt for me." And before Dubose can, he's opening the door. He never said, "step out of the car." When the cop reaches in after opening the door, Dubose starts the car. Split second, bam, shot in the head. For missing a front license plate.
The aftermath, when more cops show up? Looks keystone to me and I think I saw Musky.
Throw some more hate this way. It feels great. Glad to know I'm a fucking moron (again)
The cops life was in danger. He protected it.
You have a gun. I'm driving towards you. Do you let me run over you or do you shoot me? Simple answer here.
If you didn't watch the video maybe it was too graticule here's the the of the exchange of former officer Tensing and DuBose....
Here's the text of the dialogue between UC Officer Ray Tensing and motorist Sam DuBose during the fatal traffic stop on July 19. WARNING: The video above may be too graphic for some viewers. Watch with discretion. The shooting takes place at 1:55.
OFFICER RAY TENSING: Hey, how’s it going man? SAM DUBOSE: Hey, how’s it going? RT: Good. Officer Tensing. UC Police. You have a license on you? SD: Yeah, what happened? What’s the problem? RT: Is this your car? SD: Yeah. RT: It’s coming back to a female actually. SD: It’s my wife. Her name is -----------. RT: OK, you don’t have a front license plate on your car. SD: That's in my glove box. I have it. RT: What’s that? SD: It’s right here. RT: Oh, OK. That’s actually ... that’s got to go where the front plate is supposed to go. You don’t have to reach for it. It’s OK. You have your license on you? SD: Yeah. (reaches around his pants) RT: What’s that bottle on the floor there? SD: Oh, that’s a bottle of (unintelligible) RT: A bottle of what? SD: A bottle of (unintelligible) (DuBose hands it to Tensing and the officer holds up a bottle of gin) RT: OK, do you have your license on you? (Dubose searches around his car.) Okay, do you know where your license is at, or what? SD: I’ve got my (unintelligible) RT: Okay, I’m going to ask you again. Do you have your license on you? SD: I have a license. You can run my name. RT: So do you not have your license on you? I’m asking you a direct question. Do you have your license on you? SD: Thought I did—why did you pull me over? RT: Again, your front tag. SD: But it’s not illegal to not have a front tag. RT: OK, actually it is. I’m going to ask you again: Do you have a license on you? SD: I have a license, you can run my name. RT: OK is that not on you then? SD: I don’t think I have it on me. RT: Be straight up with me. Are you suspended? SD: No, I’m not suspended. RT: Then why don’t you have your license on you? SD: I just don’t. I’m sorry (unintelligible). I’m just going to go in my house. RT: OK, where do you stay at? Down here? SD: Right around the (unintelligible). RT: OK, well, as far as I can figure out if you have a license or not, go ahead and take your seatbelt off. (Tensing reaches for the car door) SD: I ain’t even do nothing. (DuBose pulls the door back closed.) RT: Go ahead and take your seatbelt off. STOP. STOP. (Tensing draws his gun and fires once and falls to the ground. DuBose’s car can be seen rolling away out of frame.)
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None of you think him tripping has anything to do with this? That cop was just a racist that wanted to kill a black guy?
I do, I think it happened really fast and he made the worst possible reaction he could make. I don't think it was really fear per se, just a reaction. The argument is easily be made that these types of "broken window policing" incidents are carried out very disproportionately in minority neighborhoods, making them unfair and making tragedies like this inevitable.
I honestly think it was accidental. That doesn't mean I think he deserves to walk. He has to pay for killing a man. But I don't think race played any part in this.
None of you think him tripping has anything to do with this? That cop was just a racist that wanted to kill a black guy?
That's not my position. I thought the cop was handling it well and then just lost all sense of reason. Both people made awful choices that will cost them their life in different ways. As for tripping, I don't think that is the case. He didn't trip and accidentally pull his gun out and aim it at the guy's head. He panicked.
None of you think him tripping has anything to do with this? That cop was just a racist that wanted to kill a black guy?
That's not my position. I thought the cop was handling it well and then just lost all sense of reason. Both people made awful choices that will cost them their life in different ways. As for tripping, I don't think that is the case. He didn't trip and accidentally pull his gun out and aim it at the guy's head. He panicked.
That wasnt a slip or a trip? I thought it looked like he tripped over his feet as he was moving towards the front of the car.
None of you think him tripping has anything to do with this? That cop was just a racist that wanted to kill a black guy?
That's not my position. I thought the cop was handling it well and then just lost all sense of reason. Both people made awful choices that will cost them their life in different ways. As for tripping, I don't think that is the case. He didn't trip and accidentally pull his gun out and aim it at the guy's head. He panicked.
That wasnt a slip or a trip? I thought it looked like he tripped over his feet as he was moving towards the front of the car.
It looked to me like he stumbled after he fired the shot. He still had to pull the gun and bring it up to the guy's head.
None of you think him tripping has anything to do with this? That cop was just a racist that wanted to kill a black guy?
That's not my position. I thought the cop was handling it well and then just lost all sense of reason. Both people made awful choices that will cost them their life in different ways. As for tripping, I don't think that is the case. He didn't trip and accidentally pull his gun out and aim it at the guy's head. He panicked.
That wasnt a slip or a trip? I thought it looked like he tripped over his feet as he was moving towards the front of the car.
The fact that it happened so fast you can't tell which happened first is evidence that he reacted to quickly with that amount of force.
None of you think him tripping has anything to do with this? That cop was just a racist that wanted to kill a black guy?
That was an unnecessary comment. I'm not sure who here is saying he's a racist cop. Yes I do think this could be an accidental shooting, however it in no way excuse this killing whether the victim was some other race.
He knew had done an unnecessary shooting, that's why he went into the narrative of him being dragged at least 3-4 times to sort of cover his tracks or to make give the appearance this shooting was justified.
Note it does appear he shot the victim once in the head THEN fell backwards maybe due to his action of the shooting.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Ok I was rereading the the text of the exchange between the former OC officer Tensing and DeBose. I don't know if any of you have been stopped by the police and not have your license on you. I have once by a state trooper and I can recall it was for speeding. He asked for my license and registration I gave him the registration but the license I couldn't find it. I told him I'm coming from my softball game and I think it's in my wallet in my game bag. I asked to check if it was there in my trunk he said yes. We went back there but it wasn't in there, I told him I must have left it at home, the trooper then asked me what was my name and date of birth I told him.
He ran my info and everything apparently came back clean. Amazingly, he let me go without a ticket I can't remember how fast I was going but I do know it wasn't excessive. Oh at the beginning of the stop I think he was impressed that I turned off the car and removed th keys from the ignition....I made sure he saw that as he stood there.
Yes my point here is it APPEARS Tensing almost assumed DeBose didn't have a license. He said, *you have a license on you* he didn't ask for *license and registration*. From there it's not too difficult if DeBose had a license on file and if it was revoked or not. Just the other month I went to the dmv to change the address on my license only to find out my license was suspended for a ticket I lost and for got to pay. I paid the ticket plus, fees to get it reinstated. I could've been stopped with that suspended license and I THINK one can be arrested on said license correct.....anybody know if that's true?
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Ok I was rereading the the text of the exchange between the former OC officer Tensing and DeBose. I don't know if any of you have been stopped by the police and not have your license on you. I have once by a state trooper and I can recall it was for speeding. He asked for my license and registration I gave him the registration but the license I couldn't find it. I told him I'm coming from my softball game and I think it's in my wallet in my game bag. I asked to check if it was there in my trunk he said yes. We went back there but it wasn't in there, I told him I must have left it at home, the trooper then asked me what was my name and date of birth I told him.
He ran my info and everything apparently came back clean. Amazingly, he let me go without a ticket I can't remember how fast I was going but I do know it wasn't excessive. Oh at the beginning of the stop I think he was impressed that I turned off the car and removed th keys from the ignition....I made sure he saw that as he stood there.
Yes my point here is it APPEARS Tensing almost assumed DeBose didn't have a license. He said, *you have a license on you* he didn't ask for *license and registration*. From there it's not too difficult if DeBose had a license on file and if it was revoked or not. Just the other month I went to the dmv to change the address on my license only to find out my license was suspended for a ticket I lost and for got to pay. I paid the ticket plus, fees to get it reinstated. I could've been stopped with that suspended license and I THINK one can be arrested on said license correct.....anybody know if that's true?
Peace
Yes you can and most likely will be arrested if driving on a suspended license. If the cop is super cool, he will technically arrest you and release you on the spot if someone can pick you up. Happened to me once. Very similar situation.
None of you think him tripping has anything to do with this? That cop was just a racist that wanted to kill a black guy?
That was an unnecessary comment. I'm not sure who here is saying he's a racist cop. Yes I do think this could be an accidental shooting, however it in no way excuse this killing whether the victim was some other race.
He knew had done an unnecessary shooting, that's why he went into the narrative of him being dragged at least 3-4 times to sort of cover his tracks or to make give the appearance this shooting was justified.
Note it does appear he shot the victim once in the head THEN fell backwards maybe due to his action of the shooting.
Peace
What is unnecessary? I mentioned it being accidental and the immediate reaction by someone was that I was making excuses. Nobody is talking about it. I think it was part of it.
I'm not believing that here are people here that doesn't think thisbisnt a racial issue.
None of you think him tripping has anything to do with this? That cop was just a racist that wanted to kill a black guy?
That was an unnecessary comment. I'm not sure who here is saying he's a racist cop. Yes I do think this could be an accidental shooting, however it in no way excuse this killing whether the victim was some other race.
He knew had done an unnecessary shooting, that's why he went into the narrative of him being dragged at least 3-4 times to sort of cover his tracks or to make give the appearance this shooting was justified.
Note it does appear he shot the victim once in the head THEN fell backwards maybe due to his action of the shooting.
Peace
What is unnecessary? I mentioned it being accidental and the immediate reaction by someone was that I was making excuses. Nobody is talking about it. I think it was part of it.
I'm not believing that here are people here that doesn't think thisbisnt a racial issue.
The prosecutor thinks he did it out of anger. Drawing your gun and pointing it at someones head is not an accident. He may or may not have pulled the trigger on purpose, but he laid the groundwork for it to happen. I would hardly call that an accident.
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I encourage you to watch the whole video. Can you say, "depraved indifference?"
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The aftermath, when more cops show up? Looks keystone to me and I think I saw Musky.
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When someone drives away from a cop they get shot in the head? By the way, the car did drive away and no on got dragged or ran over. So shooting him did absolutely nothing for his safety. What is so hard to see about that?
Makes absolutely no difference to me whether this guy was white, black, yellow, blue, green or red. That cop had no business shooting that guy in his head from inches away and anyone who says otherwise is a fucking moron...fact
The cops life was in danger. He protected it.
You have a gun. I'm driving towards you. Do you let me run over you or do you shoot me? Simple answer here.
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Here's the text of the dialogue between UC Officer Ray Tensing and motorist Sam DuBose during the fatal traffic stop on July 19. WARNING: The video above may be too graphic for some viewers. Watch with discretion. The shooting takes place at 1:55.
OFFICER RAY TENSING: Hey, how’s it going man?
SAM DUBOSE: Hey, how’s it going?
RT: Good. Officer Tensing. UC Police. You have a license on you?
SD: Yeah, what happened? What’s the problem?
RT: Is this your car?
SD: Yeah.
RT: It’s coming back to a female actually.
SD: It’s my wife. Her name is -----------.
RT: OK, you don’t have a front license plate on your car.
SD: That's in my glove box. I have it.
RT: What’s that?
SD: It’s right here.
RT: Oh, OK. That’s actually ... that’s got to go where the front plate is supposed to go. You don’t have to reach for it. It’s OK. You have your license on you?
SD: Yeah. (reaches around his pants)
RT: What’s that bottle on the floor there?
SD: Oh, that’s a bottle of (unintelligible)
RT: A bottle of what?
SD: A bottle of (unintelligible) (DuBose hands it to Tensing and the officer holds up a bottle of gin)
RT: OK, do you have your license on you? (Dubose searches around his car.) Okay, do you know where your license is at, or what?
SD: I’ve got my (unintelligible)
RT: Okay, I’m going to ask you again. Do you have your license on you?
SD: I have a license. You can run my name.
RT: So do you not have your license on you? I’m asking you a direct question. Do you have your license on you?
SD: Thought I did—why did you pull me over?
RT: Again, your front tag.
SD: But it’s not illegal to not have a front tag.
RT: OK, actually it is. I’m going to ask you again: Do you have a license on you?
SD: I have a license, you can run my name.
RT: OK is that not on you then?
SD: I don’t think I have it on me.
RT: Be straight up with me. Are you suspended?
SD: No, I’m not suspended.
RT: Then why don’t you have your license on you?
SD: I just don’t. I’m sorry (unintelligible). I’m just going to go in my house.
RT: OK, where do you stay at? Down here?
SD: Right around the (unintelligible).
RT: OK, well, as far as I can figure out if you have a license or not, go ahead and take your seatbelt off. (Tensing reaches for the car door)
SD: I ain’t even do nothing. (DuBose pulls the door back closed.)
RT: Go ahead and take your seatbelt off. STOP. STOP. (Tensing draws his gun and fires once and falls to the ground. DuBose’s car can be seen rolling away out of frame.)
I hope this helps, here's the link.....
http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/hamilton-county/cincinnati/watch-body-cam-video-released-in-sam-dubose-shooting
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
The argument is easily be made that these types of "broken window policing" incidents are carried out very disproportionately in minority neighborhoods, making them unfair and making tragedies like this inevitable.
He knew had done an unnecessary shooting, that's why he went into the narrative of him being dragged at least 3-4 times to sort of cover his tracks or to make give the appearance this shooting was justified.
Note it does appear he shot the victim once in the head THEN fell backwards maybe due to his action of the shooting.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
He ran my info and everything apparently came back clean. Amazingly, he let me go without a ticket I can't remember how fast I was going but I do know it wasn't excessive. Oh at the beginning of the stop I think he was impressed that I turned off the car and removed th keys from the ignition....I made sure he saw that as he stood there.
Yes my point here is it APPEARS Tensing almost assumed DeBose didn't have a license. He said, *you have a license on you* he didn't ask for *license and registration*. From there it's not too difficult if DeBose had a license on file and if it was revoked or not. Just the other month I went to the dmv to change the address on my license only to find out my license was suspended for a ticket I lost and for got to pay. I paid the ticket plus, fees to get it reinstated. I could've been stopped with that suspended license and I THINK one can be arrested on said license correct.....anybody know if that's true?
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I'm not believing that here are people here that doesn't think thisbisnt a racial issue.