Cincinnati campus police shooting/killing during routine traffic stop off campus
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It's pretty safe to watch the video, no gore....it all happens so quick you can't really even see the shot. But it does give you an idea of how quick it went down.mickeyrat said:
I havent watched the video, kinda dont want to see someone murdered ya know? If YOU have watched , is your sense that he "sped" away? Because others I have heard from is that it started to roll forward. Big difference in rolling and speeding away. Seems he was slow enough for the cop to get his gun out, take headshot aim and fire while "being dragged " by the vehicle.JUST A GIRL said:The officers hand was inside the vehicle. He tried to speed away, which would result in dragging/running over the officer. He was justified in shooting him. His life was in danger. What's so hard to see about that?
Of course you scream racism (again) when it would have happened the same way if it was a black teenager or a elf grandma. Either way it's gonna happen. Race is irrelevant.
But I guess you just have to have something for your 2 minute hate, right?
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I encourage you to watch the whole video. Can you say, "depraved indifference?"09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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smhJUST A GIRL said:The officers hand was inside the vehicle. He tried to speed away, which would result in dragging/running over the officer. He was justified in shooting him. His life was in danger. What's so hard to see about that?
Of course you scream racism (again) when it would have happened the same way if it was a black teenager or a elf grandma. Either way it's gonna happen. Race is irrelevant.
But I guess you just have to have something for your 2 minute hate, right?0 -
No, he didn't "speed" away. He never got the chance. The cop opens his door, Dubose closes it, the cop reaches in, Dubose starts the car and bam, shot in the head. Watch how long it takes for anyone to check on Dubose after they turn his car off. As for an "order?" The cop says, " why don't you go ahead and unbuckle your seatbelt for me." And before Dubose can, he's opening the door. He never said, "step out of the car." When the cop reaches in after opening the door, Dubose starts the car. Split second, bam, shot in the head. For missing a front license plate.dignin said:
It's pretty safe to watch the video, no gore....it all happens so quick you can't really even see the shot. But it does give you an idea of how quick it went down.mickeyrat said:
I havent watched the video, kinda dont want to see someone murdered ya know? If YOU have watched , is your sense that he "sped" away? Because others I have heard from is that it started to roll forward. Big difference in rolling and speeding away. Seems he was slow enough for the cop to get his gun out, take headshot aim and fire while "being dragged " by the vehicle.JUST A GIRL said:The officers hand was inside the vehicle. He tried to speed away, which would result in dragging/running over the officer. He was justified in shooting him. His life was in danger. What's so hard to see about that?
Of course you scream racism (again) when it would have happened the same way if it was a black teenager or a elf grandma. Either way it's gonna happen. Race is irrelevant.
But I guess you just have to have something for your 2 minute hate, right?
The aftermath, when more cops show up? Looks keystone to me and I think I saw Musky.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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He started the car before the cop lunged in. Which raises the question, is it procedure to lunge into a vehicle that is attempting to flee? That seems counter intuitive to me.Halifax2TheMax said:
No, he didn't "speed" away. He never got the chance. The cop opens his door, Dubose closes it, the cop reaches in, Dubose starts the car and bam, shot in the head. Watch how long it takes for anyone to check on Dubose after they turn his car off. As for an "order?" The cop says, " why don't you go ahead and unbuckle your seatbelt for me." And before Dubose can, he's opening the door. He never said, "step out of the car." When the cop reaches in after opening the door, Dubose starts the car. Split second, bam, shot in the head. For missing a front license plate.dignin said:
It's pretty safe to watch the video, no gore....it all happens so quick you can't really even see the shot. But it does give you an idea of how quick it went down.mickeyrat said:
I havent watched the video, kinda dont want to see someone murdered ya know? If YOU have watched , is your sense that he "sped" away? Because others I have heard from is that it started to roll forward. Big difference in rolling and speeding away. Seems he was slow enough for the cop to get his gun out, take headshot aim and fire while "being dragged " by the vehicle.JUST A GIRL said:The officers hand was inside the vehicle. He tried to speed away, which would result in dragging/running over the officer. He was justified in shooting him. His life was in danger. What's so hard to see about that?
Of course you scream racism (again) when it would have happened the same way if it was a black teenager or a elf grandma. Either way it's gonna happen. Race is irrelevant.
But I guess you just have to have something for your 2 minute hate, right?
The aftermath, when more cops show up? Looks keystone to me and I think I saw Musky.0 -
Holy shitJUST A GIRL said:The officers hand was inside the vehicle. He tried to speed away, which would result in dragging/running over the officer. He was justified in shooting him. His life was in danger. What's so hard to see about that?
Of course you scream racism (again) when it would have happened the same way if it was a black teenager or a elf grandma. Either way it's gonna happen. Race is irrelevant.
But I guess you just have to have something for your 2 minute hate, right?
When someone drives away from a cop they get shot in the head? By the way, the car did drive away and no on got dragged or ran over. So shooting him did absolutely nothing for his safety. What is so hard to see about that?
Makes absolutely no difference to me whether this guy was white, black, yellow, blue, green or red. That cop had no business shooting that guy in his head from inches away and anyone who says otherwise is a fucking moron...fact
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Throw some more hate this way. It feels great. Glad to know I'm a fucking moron (again)
The cops life was in danger. He protected it.
You have a gun. I'm driving towards you. Do you let me run over you or do you shoot me? Simple answer here.0 -
Did you even watch the video?JUST A GIRL said:Throw some more hate this way. It feels great. Glad to know I'm a fucking moron (again)
The cops life was in danger. He protected it.
You have a gun. I'm driving towards you. Do you let me run over you or do you shoot me? Simple answer here.0 -
Where, exactly, was the cop's life in danger?JUST A GIRL said:Throw some more hate this way. It feels great. Glad to know I'm a fucking moron (again)
The cops life was in danger. He protected it.
You have a gun. I'm driving towards you. Do you let me run over you or do you shoot me? Simple answer here.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Right after he tried to dive in the car and shot the driver in the head, leaving the car in drive with a dead guy behind the wheel.Halifax2TheMax said:
Where, exactly, was the cop's life in danger?JUST A GIRL said:Throw some more hate this way. It feels great. Glad to know I'm a fucking moron (again)
The cops life was in danger. He protected it.
You have a gun. I'm driving towards you. Do you let me run over you or do you shoot me? Simple answer here.0 -
Seems like he pulled a Zimmerman to me.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Oddly enough Zimmerman's lawyer may convict this guy.0
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Either you didn't watch the video, or you are telling a lie deliberately.JUST A GIRL said:Throw some more hate this way. It feels great. Glad to know I'm a fucking moron (again)
The cops life was in danger. He protected it.
You have a gun. I'm driving towards you. Do you let me run over you or do you shoot me? Simple answer here.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
Poor comparison.Halifax2TheMax said:Seems like he pulled a Zimmerman to me.
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Lets keep it classy!Halifax2TheMax said:
No, he didn't "speed" away. He never got the chance. The cop opens his door, Dubose closes it, the cop reaches in, Dubose starts the car and bam, shot in the head. Watch how long it takes for anyone to check on Dubose after they turn his car off. As for an "order?" The cop says, " why don't you go ahead and unbuckle your seatbelt for me." And before Dubose can, he's opening the door. He never said, "step out of the car." When the cop reaches in after opening the door, Dubose starts the car. Split second, bam, shot in the head. For missing a front license plate.dignin said:
It's pretty safe to watch the video, no gore....it all happens so quick you can't really even see the shot. But it does give you an idea of how quick it went down.mickeyrat said:
I havent watched the video, kinda dont want to see someone murdered ya know? If YOU have watched , is your sense that he "sped" away? Because others I have heard from is that it started to roll forward. Big difference in rolling and speeding away. Seems he was slow enough for the cop to get his gun out, take headshot aim and fire while "being dragged " by the vehicle.JUST A GIRL said:The officers hand was inside the vehicle. He tried to speed away, which would result in dragging/running over the officer. He was justified in shooting him. His life was in danger. What's so hard to see abo
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Of course you scream racism (again) when it would have happened the same way if it was a black teenager or a elf grandma. Either way it's gonna happen. Race is irrelevant.
But I guess you just have to have something for your 2 minute hate, right?
The aftermath, when more cops show up? Looks keystone to me and I think I saw Musky.0 -
If you didn't watch the video maybe it was too graticule here's the the of the exchange of former officer Tensing and DuBose....JUST A GIRL said:Throw some more hate this way. It feels great. Glad to know I'm a fucking moron (again)
The cops life was in danger. He protected it.
You have a gun. I'm driving towards you. Do you let me run over you or do you shoot me? Simple answer here.
Here's the text of the dialogue between UC Officer Ray Tensing and motorist Sam DuBose during the fatal traffic stop on July 19. WARNING: The video above may be too graphic for some viewers. Watch with discretion. The shooting takes place at 1:55.
OFFICER RAY TENSING: Hey, how’s it going man?
SAM DUBOSE: Hey, how’s it going?
RT: Good. Officer Tensing. UC Police. You have a license on you?
SD: Yeah, what happened? What’s the problem?
RT: Is this your car?
SD: Yeah.
RT: It’s coming back to a female actually.
SD: It’s my wife. Her name is -----------.
RT: OK, you don’t have a front license plate on your car.
SD: That's in my glove box. I have it.
RT: What’s that?
SD: It’s right here.
RT: Oh, OK. That’s actually ... that’s got to go where the front plate is supposed to go. You don’t have to reach for it. It’s OK. You have your license on you?
SD: Yeah. (reaches around his pants)
RT: What’s that bottle on the floor there?
SD: Oh, that’s a bottle of (unintelligible)
RT: A bottle of what?
SD: A bottle of (unintelligible) (DuBose hands it to Tensing and the officer holds up a bottle of gin)
RT: OK, do you have your license on you? (Dubose searches around his car.) Okay, do you know where your license is at, or what?
SD: I’ve got my (unintelligible)
RT: Okay, I’m going to ask you again. Do you have your license on you?
SD: I have a license. You can run my name.
RT: So do you not have your license on you? I’m asking you a direct question. Do you have your license on you?
SD: Thought I did—why did you pull me over?
RT: Again, your front tag.
SD: But it’s not illegal to not have a front tag.
RT: OK, actually it is. I’m going to ask you again: Do you have a license on you?
SD: I have a license, you can run my name.
RT: OK is that not on you then?
SD: I don’t think I have it on me.
RT: Be straight up with me. Are you suspended?
SD: No, I’m not suspended.
RT: Then why don’t you have your license on you?
SD: I just don’t. I’m sorry (unintelligible). I’m just going to go in my house.
RT: OK, where do you stay at? Down here?
SD: Right around the (unintelligible).
RT: OK, well, as far as I can figure out if you have a license or not, go ahead and take your seatbelt off. (Tensing reaches for the car door)
SD: I ain’t even do nothing. (DuBose pulls the door back closed.)
RT: Go ahead and take your seatbelt off. STOP. STOP. (Tensing draws his gun and fires once and falls to the ground. DuBose’s car can be seen rolling away out of frame.)
I hope this helps, here's the link.....
http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/hamilton-county/cincinnati/watch-body-cam-video-released-in-sam-dubose-shooting
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None of you think him tripping has anything to do with this? That cop was just a racist that wanted to kill a black guy?0
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Yeah I don't really see the relation either.Last-12-Exit said:
Poor comparison.Halifax2TheMax said:Seems like he pulled a Zimmerman to me.
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I do, I think it happened really fast and he made the worst possible reaction he could make. I don't think it was really fear per se, just a reaction.Last-12-Exit said:None of you think him tripping has anything to do with this? That cop was just a racist that wanted to kill a black guy?
The argument is easily be made that these types of "broken window policing" incidents are carried out very disproportionately in minority neighborhoods, making them unfair and making tragedies like this inevitable.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
I honestly think it was accidental. That doesn't mean I think he deserves to walk. He has to pay for killing a man. But I don't think race played any part in this.0
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