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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    I gave him the benefit of the doubt at first - had to at that point.

    Seems more is coming to light now, and if he's pleading...appears he's quite the sick fuck.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fogle-to-plead-guilty-to-sex-acts-with-minors-child-porn/ar-BBlRCbj?ocid=HPCDHP
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    rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Leave fucking kids alone you sick fucks.What the hell is wrong with some people.I read the whole indictment.Shit he was knee deep in seediness.What makes them think they are going to get away with it.Mindblowing stuff. I'm glad he will get a new chance for sexual exploration in just a short amount of time.
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    MalrothMalroth broken down chevrolet Posts: 2,485

    So it wasn't just research? Odd.

    what? if he were in a band, some might let him off the hook?
    The worst of times..they don't phase me,
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    lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,191
    what a sick piece of shit....
    I hope they still give him the max... that even that is not enough for these perverts.

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    Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Malroth said:

    So it wasn't just research? Odd.

    what? if he were in a band, some might let him off the hook?
    are you refering to Pete Townsend ?........but but it was just research LOL !!

    Godfather.

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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,562
    Yeah, I don't wtf is up with Townsend. So many people obviously believe him though, including EV. I do find myself thinking that if the man has retained friends like that, then there must be a reason they don't doubt him about the research thing..... maybe there is something we don't know to make it completely reasonable? It totally sounds fishy to me too, but seriously, would Eddie Vedder really ignore it if he didn't have a real reason to?? Or is he just that blinded by idol worship? :i_dunno:
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    PJ_Soul said:

    Yeah, I don't wtf is up with Townsend. So many people obviously believe him though, including EV. I do find myself thinking that if the man has retained friends like that, then there must be a reason they don't doubt him about the research thing..... maybe there is something we don't know to make it completely reasonable? It totally sounds fishy to me too, but seriously, would Eddie Vedder really ignore it if he didn't have a real reason to?? Or is he just that blinded by idol worship? :i_dunno:

    Eddie Vedder is human just like everyone else. Sometimes friendships run deep. Sometimes people refuse to believe what they probably should.

    I personally think Pete is guilty. Any adult with half a brain doesn't keep a collection of child pornography as a side research project. I still listen to The Who though so I guess I've compromised something?

    * And I'm with RR: pedophiles can go jump off a cliff. It's one thing to hurt an adult... it's quite another to hurt a child.
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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    He has children?!
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,832
    Federal time too. Lot different than state .
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177

    PJ_Soul said:

    Yeah, I don't wtf is up with Townsend. So many people obviously believe him though, including EV. I do find myself thinking that if the man has retained friends like that, then there must be a reason they don't doubt him about the research thing..... maybe there is something we don't know to make it completely reasonable? It totally sounds fishy to me too, but seriously, would Eddie Vedder really ignore it if he didn't have a real reason to?? Or is he just that blinded by idol worship? :i_dunno:

    Eddie Vedder is human just like everyone else. Sometimes friendships run deep. Sometimes people refuse to believe what they probably should.

    I personally think Pete is guilty. Any adult with half a brain doesn't keep a collection of child pornography as a side research project. I still listen to The Who though so I guess I've compromised something?

    * And I'm with RR: pedophiles can go jump off a cliff. It's one thing to hurt an adult... it's quite another to hurt a child.
    Agreed on all points, Thirty. I can't imagine anyone keeping child porn on a personal computer in the name of "research". It has to be either denial, or being blinded by friendship on Ed's part. But I guess we'll never know. I just know that there is no way I would ever want to look at child porn, for any reason, including conducting research or investigations. I don't know how cops and prosecutors offices go through this stuff during collection of evidence or building a case. I'd be scarred for life. Too many things you can't unsee.

    And I have absolutely no mercy or compassion available for pedophiles. Whatever happens to Jared at this point will be a fraction of what I think he deserves. I'm not hoping he gets beaten or raped in jail, but I won't feel the slightest bit of compassion for him if it does happen. He deserves whatever bad things come his way, as do all pedophiles. I'd be fine with putting them all through a wood chipper, but I know that isn't how we do things, so I'll just take satisfaction knowing he's likely looking at about a decade of misery behind bars before he gets another opportunity to ruin kids' lives.

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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,832
    jeffbr said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Yeah, I don't wtf is up with Townsend. So many people obviously believe him though, including EV. I do find myself thinking that if the man has retained friends like that, then there must be a reason they don't doubt him about the research thing..... maybe there is something we don't know to make it completely reasonable? It totally sounds fishy to me too, but seriously, would Eddie Vedder really ignore it if he didn't have a real reason to?? Or is he just that blinded by idol worship? :i_dunno:

    Eddie Vedder is human just like everyone else. Sometimes friendships run deep. Sometimes people refuse to believe what they probably should.

    I personally think Pete is guilty. Any adult with half a brain doesn't keep a collection of child pornography as a side research project. I still listen to The Who though so I guess I've compromised something?

    * And I'm with RR: pedophiles can go jump off a cliff. It's one thing to hurt an adult... it's quite another to hurt a child.
    Agreed on all points, Thirty. I can't imagine anyone keeping child porn on a personal computer in the name of "research". It has to be either denial, or being blinded by friendship on Ed's part. But I guess we'll never know. I just know that there is no way I would ever want to look at child porn, for any reason, including conducting research or investigations. I don't know how cops and prosecutors offices go through this stuff during collection of evidence or building a case. I'd be scarred for life. Too many things you can't unsee.

    And I have absolutely no mercy or compassion available for pedophiles. Whatever happens to Jared at this point will be a fraction of what I think he deserves. I'm not hoping he gets beaten or raped in jail, but I won't feel the slightest bit of compassion for him if it does happen. He deserves whatever bad things come his way, as do all pedophiles. I'd be fine with putting them all through a wood chipper, but I know that isn't how we do things, so I'll just take satisfaction knowing he's likely looking at about a decade of misery behind bars before he gets another opportunity to ruin kids' lives.

    And $ millions waiting on him upon release.
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    RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,207
    All the while my neighbor might be spending the rest of his life behind bars for growing pot.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,832
    Hmm. Hedos article sparked a question so I found this,
    http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/new-york-age-of-consent-lawyers.html

    Seems to me that NY state could go after him for 3rd degree rape charges if these girls can be found.
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    RiotZact said:

    All the while my neighbor might be spending the rest of his life behind bars for growing pot.

    So fucked up. It makes absolutely no sense.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
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    jeffbr said:

    RiotZact said:

    All the while my neighbor might be spending the rest of his life behind bars for growing pot.

    So fucked up. It makes absolutely no sense.
    Big time.

    At some point in time, leaders will break the status quo and make real change efforts that reflect a society that has changed its value system. Until then... we just have to stomach the nonsense.
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    Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305

    PJ_Soul said:

    Yeah, I don't wtf is up with Townsend. So many people obviously believe him though, including EV. I do find myself thinking that if the man has retained friends like that, then there must be a reason they don't doubt him about the research thing..... maybe there is something we don't know to make it completely reasonable? It totally sounds fishy to me too, but seriously, would Eddie Vedder really ignore it if he didn't have a real reason to?? Or is he just that blinded by idol worship? :i_dunno:

    Eddie Vedder is human just like everyone else. Sometimes friendships run deep. Sometimes people refuse to believe what they probably should.

    I personally think Pete is guilty. Any adult with half a brain doesn't keep a collection of child pornography as a side research project. I still listen to The Who though so I guess I've compromised something?

    * And I'm with RR: pedophiles can go jump off a cliff. It's one thing to hurt an adult... it's quite another to hurt a child.
    I am kind of tired of explaining the whole Pete thing but I will make this comment. Police confiscated 11 computers from his home and no porn was downloaded on any of them. He used a credit card to access a porn site one time, to make a point about credit card companies financing porn.

    He addressed the facts in numerous interviews when he published his memoirs a couple of years ago. Try Google.
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    chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    that jared guy sure has a fucked up smile (& his eyes aren't any better) when looking at previous pictures. the ceo of subway should (just for kicks & good times) boot jared fogle directly off a cliff.
    heck, why not punch him in the throat or get a tank & race it down a mountain as fast as you can travel that big bastard running fogle right over? get a log on fire & smack him in the head with it. i know, he can spar tyson in a pit fight. we could hook fogle up to a utility pole lowering him into a industrial chipper that generally eats refrigerators, stoves, couches, cars, 900 tons of broken hammers, i-beams, & endless bags of dog shit picked up from the yard where the neighbors' dogs have their craps

    in all reality it should be like it was back in the day - if so - fogle would be nice wearing a .44 caliber hole upside his sick & dumbass head

    this guy will get 2 yrs max. i wouldn't be surprised if he gets one yr while the guy having marijuana gets many more yrs behind bars

    fogle is worth $15m, according to celebritynetworth.com

    as you can tell, (hell, maybe you can't) i've no time for these fools

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    lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,191

    PJ_Soul said:

    Yeah, I don't wtf is up with Townsend. So many people obviously believe him though, including EV. I do find myself thinking that if the man has retained friends like that, then there must be a reason they don't doubt him about the research thing..... maybe there is something we don't know to make it completely reasonable? It totally sounds fishy to me too, but seriously, would Eddie Vedder really ignore it if he didn't have a real reason to?? Or is he just that blinded by idol worship? :i_dunno:

    Eddie Vedder is human just like everyone else. Sometimes friendships run deep. Sometimes people refuse to believe what they probably should.

    I personally think Pete is guilty. Any adult with half a brain doesn't keep a collection of child pornography as a side research project. I still listen to The Who though so I guess I've compromised something?

    * And I'm with RR: pedophiles can go jump off a cliff. It's one thing to hurt an adult... it's quite another to hurt a child.
    I am kind of tired of explaining the whole Pete thing but I will make this comment. Police confiscated 11 computers from his home and no porn was downloaded on any of them. He used a credit card to access a porn site one time, to make a point about credit card companies financing porn.

    He addressed the facts in numerous interviews when he published his memoirs a couple of years ago. Try Google.
    that's what I thought too.... I read his biography where he explained what happened. apparently they found that he spent less than a minute on the site and never downloaded anything. I really don't know who to believe, but it seems like he definitely regrets even doing that and was also a victim of child abuse from his aunt and her lovers.

    until I read that, I was boycotting the Who on principal. decided to read his book to hear his take on the case. definitely an interesting life he has led.

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    chadwick said:

    that jared guy sure has a fucked up smile (& his eyes aren't any better) when looking at previous pictures. the ceo of subway should (just for kicks & good times) boot jared fogle directly off a cliff.
    heck, why not punch him in the throat or get a tank & race it down a mountain as fast as you can travel that big bastard running fogle right over? get a log on fire & smack him in the head with it. i know, he can spar tyson in a pit fight. we could hook fogle up to a utility pole lowering him into a industrial chipper that generally eats refrigerators, stoves, couches, cars, 900 tons of broken hammers, i-beams, & endless bags of dog shit picked up from the yard where the neighbors' dogs have their craps

    in all reality it should be like it was back in the day - if so - fogle would be nice wearing a .44 caliber hole upside his sick & dumbass head

    this guy will get 2 yrs max. i wouldn't be surprised if he gets one yr while the guy having marijuana gets many more yrs behind bars

    fogle is worth $15m, according to celebritynetworth.com

    as you can tell, (hell, maybe you can't) i've no time for these fools

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    PJ_Soul said:

    Yeah, I don't wtf is up with Townsend. So many people obviously believe him though, including EV. I do find myself thinking that if the man has retained friends like that, then there must be a reason they don't doubt him about the research thing..... maybe there is something we don't know to make it completely reasonable? It totally sounds fishy to me too, but seriously, would Eddie Vedder really ignore it if he didn't have a real reason to?? Or is he just that blinded by idol worship? :i_dunno:

    Eddie Vedder is human just like everyone else. Sometimes friendships run deep. Sometimes people refuse to believe what they probably should.

    I personally think Pete is guilty. Any adult with half a brain doesn't keep a collection of child pornography as a side research project. I still listen to The Who though so I guess I've compromised something?

    * And I'm with RR: pedophiles can go jump off a cliff. It's one thing to hurt an adult... it's quite another to hurt a child.
    I am kind of tired of explaining the whole Pete thing but I will make this comment. Police confiscated 11 computers from his home and no porn was downloaded on any of them. He used a credit card to access a porn site one time, to make a point about credit card companies financing porn.

    He addressed the facts in numerous interviews when he published his memoirs a couple of years ago. Try Google.
    Maybe.

    I could try Google, but it will give me multiple versions of the story including the one you believe. You may very well be correct, but you'd never find me accessing child pornography to 'prove a point'. If the version he wishes people to endorse is true then at a very minimum he's not very bright.
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    Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    I read that he pled guilty to paying for sex with a 6 year old and a 14 year old and pages of child porn.. I'll bet he gets more than 2 years.

    this guy at a BMX track used to bring a less fortunate boy(14 years old) to the track and races and come to find out he had been forcing him to have sex and threatin him if he told anybody.. he was given 16 years before he can go up for paroll and my opinion that is not enough.

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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,562

    PJ_Soul said:

    Yeah, I don't wtf is up with Townsend. So many people obviously believe him though, including EV. I do find myself thinking that if the man has retained friends like that, then there must be a reason they don't doubt him about the research thing..... maybe there is something we don't know to make it completely reasonable? It totally sounds fishy to me too, but seriously, would Eddie Vedder really ignore it if he didn't have a real reason to?? Or is he just that blinded by idol worship? :i_dunno:

    Eddie Vedder is human just like everyone else. Sometimes friendships run deep. Sometimes people refuse to believe what they probably should.

    I personally think Pete is guilty. Any adult with half a brain doesn't keep a collection of child pornography as a side research project. I still listen to The Who though so I guess I've compromised something?

    * And I'm with RR: pedophiles can go jump off a cliff. It's one thing to hurt an adult... it's quite another to hurt a child.
    Sure.... but I'm human too, and even if my own mother was caught with kiddie porn I'd never have anything to do with her again.

    Now consuming a product of a sicko is a whole other story. I don't think you've compromised anything simply by listening to The Who. Me, I'm still eating Subway sandwiches and don't feel bad about it at all, lol.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,562
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    lolobugg said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Yeah, I don't wtf is up with Townsend. So many people obviously believe him though, including EV. I do find myself thinking that if the man has retained friends like that, then there must be a reason they don't doubt him about the research thing..... maybe there is something we don't know to make it completely reasonable? It totally sounds fishy to me too, but seriously, would Eddie Vedder really ignore it if he didn't have a real reason to?? Or is he just that blinded by idol worship? :i_dunno:

    Eddie Vedder is human just like everyone else. Sometimes friendships run deep. Sometimes people refuse to believe what they probably should.

    I personally think Pete is guilty. Any adult with half a brain doesn't keep a collection of child pornography as a side research project. I still listen to The Who though so I guess I've compromised something?

    * And I'm with RR: pedophiles can go jump off a cliff. It's one thing to hurt an adult... it's quite another to hurt a child.
    I am kind of tired of explaining the whole Pete thing but I will make this comment. Police confiscated 11 computers from his home and no porn was downloaded on any of them. He used a credit card to access a porn site one time, to make a point about credit card companies financing porn.

    He addressed the facts in numerous interviews when he published his memoirs a couple of years ago. Try Google.
    that's what I thought too.... I read his biography where he explained what happened. apparently they found that he spent less than a minute on the site and never downloaded anything. I really don't know who to believe, but it seems like he definitely regrets even doing that and was also a victim of child abuse from his aunt and her lovers.

    until I read that, I was boycotting the Who on principal. decided to read his book to hear his take on the case. definitely an interesting life he has led.
    Oh, is that all? Then if that's actually true then whatever, that's ridiculous, and so is anyone who brings it up in a discussion as a case in point (assuming they know the facts). And since he was never prosecuted or anything, that seems likely. And I don't think it sounds weird for someone to try and access it just see how easy it is and be on there for less than a minute.... It's a shame they got his money for it though.
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    Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    PJ_Soul said:

    lolobugg said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Yeah, I don't wtf is up with Townsend. So many people obviously believe him though, including EV. I do find myself thinking that if the man has retained friends like that, then there must be a reason they don't doubt him about the research thing..... maybe there is something we don't know to make it completely reasonable? It totally sounds fishy to me too, but seriously, would Eddie Vedder really ignore it if he didn't have a real reason to?? Or is he just that blinded by idol worship? :i_dunno:

    Eddie Vedder is human just like everyone else. Sometimes friendships run deep. Sometimes people refuse to believe what they probably should.

    I personally think Pete is guilty. Any adult with half a brain doesn't keep a collection of child pornography as a side research project. I still listen to The Who though so I guess I've compromised something?

    * And I'm with RR: pedophiles can go jump off a cliff. It's one thing to hurt an adult... it's quite another to hurt a child.
    I am kind of tired of explaining the whole Pete thing but I will make this comment. Police confiscated 11 computers from his home and no porn was downloaded on any of them. He used a credit card to access a porn site one time, to make a point about credit card companies financing porn.

    He addressed the facts in numerous interviews when he published his memoirs a couple of years ago. Try Google.
    that's what I thought too.... I read his biography where he explained what happened. apparently they found that he spent less than a minute on the site and never downloaded anything. I really don't know who to believe, but it seems like he definitely regrets even doing that and was also a victim of child abuse from his aunt and her lovers.

    until I read that, I was boycotting the Who on principal. decided to read his book to hear his take on the case. definitely an interesting life he has led.
    Oh, is that all? Then if that's actually true then whatever, that's ridiculous, and so is anyone who brings it up in a discussion as a case in point (assuming they know the facts). And since he was never prosecuted or anything, that seems likely. And I don't think it sounds weird for someone to try and access it just see how easy it is and be on there for less than a minute.... It's a shame they got his money for it though.
    why would anyone want to search child porn ? unless they were pervs or cops looking to bust pervs, just freakin weird to me.

    Godfather.

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    lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,191

    PJ_Soul said:

    lolobugg said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Yeah, I don't wtf is up with Townsend. So many people obviously believe him though, including EV. I do find myself thinking that if the man has retained friends like that, then there must be a reason they don't doubt him about the research thing..... maybe there is something we don't know to make it completely reasonable? It totally sounds fishy to me too, but seriously, would Eddie Vedder really ignore it if he didn't have a real reason to?? Or is he just that blinded by idol worship? :i_dunno:

    Eddie Vedder is human just like everyone else. Sometimes friendships run deep. Sometimes people refuse to believe what they probably should.

    I personally think Pete is guilty. Any adult with half a brain doesn't keep a collection of child pornography as a side research project. I still listen to The Who though so I guess I've compromised something?

    * And I'm with RR: pedophiles can go jump off a cliff. It's one thing to hurt an adult... it's quite another to hurt a child.
    I am kind of tired of explaining the whole Pete thing but I will make this comment. Police confiscated 11 computers from his home and no porn was downloaded on any of them. He used a credit card to access a porn site one time, to make a point about credit card companies financing porn.

    He addressed the facts in numerous interviews when he published his memoirs a couple of years ago. Try Google.
    that's what I thought too.... I read his biography where he explained what happened. apparently they found that he spent less than a minute on the site and never downloaded anything. I really don't know who to believe, but it seems like he definitely regrets even doing that and was also a victim of child abuse from his aunt and her lovers.

    until I read that, I was boycotting the Who on principal. decided to read his book to hear his take on the case. definitely an interesting life he has led.
    Oh, is that all? Then if that's actually true then whatever, that's ridiculous, and so is anyone who brings it up in a discussion as a case in point (assuming they know the facts). And since he was never prosecuted or anything, that seems likely. And I don't think it sounds weird for someone to try and access it just see how easy it is and be on there for less than a minute.... It's a shame they got his money for it though.
    why would anyone want to search child porn ? unless they were pervs or cops looking to bust pervs, just freakin weird to me.

    Godfather.

    His claim is that he was doing research for a book and also for his charity that helps survivors of childhood sexual abuse. the suicide rate for survivors is pretty high and he wanted to do something to help them. he claims that he was abused as well. he aborted the book when he found one that had already been written and he felt that it was extraordinary and that he couldn't contribute anything that hadn't already been said in that book.

    Once again, I don't know if he is guilty or not.. I am just relaying his side of the story.

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    2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA

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    Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    I didn't mention any names.....
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,562
    edited August 2015

    PJ_Soul said:

    lolobugg said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Yeah, I don't wtf is up with Townsend. So many people obviously believe him though, including EV. I do find myself thinking that if the man has retained friends like that, then there must be a reason they don't doubt him about the research thing..... maybe there is something we don't know to make it completely reasonable? It totally sounds fishy to me too, but seriously, would Eddie Vedder really ignore it if he didn't have a real reason to?? Or is he just that blinded by idol worship? :i_dunno:

    Eddie Vedder is human just like everyone else. Sometimes friendships run deep. Sometimes people refuse to believe what they probably should.

    I personally think Pete is guilty. Any adult with half a brain doesn't keep a collection of child pornography as a side research project. I still listen to The Who though so I guess I've compromised something?

    * And I'm with RR: pedophiles can go jump off a cliff. It's one thing to hurt an adult... it's quite another to hurt a child.
    I am kind of tired of explaining the whole Pete thing but I will make this comment. Police confiscated 11 computers from his home and no porn was downloaded on any of them. He used a credit card to access a porn site one time, to make a point about credit card companies financing porn.

    He addressed the facts in numerous interviews when he published his memoirs a couple of years ago. Try Google.
    that's what I thought too.... I read his biography where he explained what happened. apparently they found that he spent less than a minute on the site and never downloaded anything. I really don't know who to believe, but it seems like he definitely regrets even doing that and was also a victim of child abuse from his aunt and her lovers.

    until I read that, I was boycotting the Who on principal. decided to read his book to hear his take on the case. definitely an interesting life he has led.
    Oh, is that all? Then if that's actually true then whatever, that's ridiculous, and so is anyone who brings it up in a discussion as a case in point (assuming they know the facts). And since he was never prosecuted or anything, that seems likely. And I don't think it sounds weird for someone to try and access it just see how easy it is and be on there for less than a minute.... It's a shame they got his money for it though.
    why would anyone want to search child porn ? unless they were pervs or cops looking to bust pervs, just freakin weird to me.

    Godfather.

    Well, I work closely with Criminology professors and Masters students, and I know several of them would have reason to do that for research. There are also people who advocate for children who would do this so that they understand how the kiddie porn business works, how pervs get access, etc. You can't fight what you don't know. And that sounds like what Townsend is claiming. If he's telling the truth, that seems perfectly reasonable to me. So yeah, there really are legit no-pervo reasons to do that.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,832
    edited August 2015
    Back to Jared and the statutory rape.
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    Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    lolobugg said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    lolobugg said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Yeah, I don't wtf is up with Townsend. So many people obviously believe him though, including EV. I do find myself thinking that if the man has retained friends like that, then there must be a reason they don't doubt him about the research thing..... maybe there is something we don't know to make it completely reasonable? It totally sounds fishy to me too, but seriously, would Eddie Vedder really ignore it if he didn't have a real reason to?? Or is he just that blinded by idol worship? :i_dunno:

    Eddie Vedder is human just like everyone else. Sometimes friendships run deep. Sometimes people refuse to believe what they probably should.

    I personally think Pete is guilty. Any adult with half a brain doesn't keep a collection of child pornography as a side research project. I still listen to The Who though so I guess I've compromised something?

    * And I'm with RR: pedophiles can go jump off a cliff. It's one thing to hurt an adult... it's quite another to hurt a child.
    I am kind of tired of explaining the whole Pete thing but I will make this comment. Police confiscated 11 computers from his home and no porn was downloaded on any of them. He used a credit card to access a porn site one time, to make a point about credit card companies financing porn.

    He addressed the facts in numerous interviews when he published his memoirs a couple of years ago. Try Google.
    that's what I thought too.... I read his biography where he explained what happened. apparently they found that he spent less than a minute on the site and never downloaded anything. I really don't know who to believe, but it seems like he definitely regrets even doing that and was also a victim of child abuse from his aunt and her lovers.

    until I read that, I was boycotting the Who on principal. decided to read his book to hear his take on the case. definitely an interesting life he has led.
    Oh, is that all? Then if that's actually true then whatever, that's ridiculous, and so is anyone who brings it up in a discussion as a case in point (assuming they know the facts). And since he was never prosecuted or anything, that seems likely. And I don't think it sounds weird for someone to try and access it just see how easy it is and be on there for less than a minute.... It's a shame they got his money for it though.
    why would anyone want to search child porn ? unless they were pervs or cops looking to bust pervs, just freakin weird to me.

    Godfather.

    His claim is that he was doing research for a book and also for his charity that helps survivors of childhood sexual abuse. the suicide rate for survivors is pretty high and he wanted to do something to help them. he claims that he was abused as well. he aborted the book when he found one that had already been written and he felt that it was extraordinary and that he couldn't contribute anything that hadn't already been said in that book.

    Once again, I don't know if he is guilty or not.. I am just relaying his side of the story.
    thanks !

    Godfather.

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    hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of forever Posts: 24,524
    Whatever they can legally get him on, mickey. Statutory rape charges don't seem so far-fetched.

    Ugh. Both him and that Taylor guy are beyond scumbags.

    I hope he didn't fuck with his own children.
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