Anyone else think Pearl Jam opening for U2 is lame?

washmylungs

this is just such a stupid thread...

at least the part about U2 being "greedy money loving bastards" or whatever

Let's see: U2 announces tour dates and they all sell out in seconds making them lots and lots of money....hmmm, is that their fault??? sounds like the demand is there, they give their fans what they want, a huge tour along with a new album every few years. how does this make them greedy? they are not ripping anyone off?

just stupid

if you don't like U2's music fine...don't listen to them or attend this show. period.

nukeboot

stonewastheprblm wrote:

I actually caught a show on that tour ( I was covering it) and conceed that Neil did that but Neil Young solo wasnt setting any attendance records. Now Neil is out with Crosy Stills and Nash and they are getting 200+ a ticket.

It's sad, isn't it? I caught CSNY at the Garden last time around and it was a snoozefest. The only energy on stage was when Neil got some of the spotlight. He remains youthful and relevant and CSN, well, doesn't.

neartodeath

nukeboot wrote:

It's sad, isn't it? I caught CSNY at the Garden last time around and it was a snoozefest. The only energy on stage was when Neil got some of the spotlight. He remains youthful and relevant and CSN, well, doesn't.

living with war is a great cd. that whole new csny tour is built around that cd.

if you don't love that cd, well then...

Eliot Rosewater

pjrvm wrote:

I mean come on. U2 hasn't made a good record in about 15 years.

You clearly haven't heard a single song from U2 in the last 15 years.

pjrvm wrote:

Sure they're "legendary" probably more so than Tom Petty.

Compared to U2, Tom Petty is a no-talent ass clown. You may not prefer U2's style of music but they're obviously very talented and Bono is a fantastic lyricist. If you disagree then you haven't paid one ounce of attention to their music or Bono's lyrics. His writing style is quite similar to Ed's.

pjrvm wrote:

But what is with all these has been bands asking PJ to open. Obviously from PJ's point of view it's an honor

Anyone with even the slightest musical talent/knowledge would be honored to open for U2. It's clear that Pearl Jam recognizes the talent and great things U2 has done for both the musical world and humanity in general. Pearl Jam would not open for someone they didn't respect and view as extremely talented.

pjrvm wrote:

but I couldn't bare watching PJ rock out for an hour and a half and then have to sit through Bono asking us all the save the world.

That one's simple...don't go to the show. There will be another ticket available to someone with better taste and appreciation for insanely good music.

pjrvm wrote:

U2 has some great songs, but there day is done as far as I'm concerned

There's the open-mindedness that we should all embrace....sounds like you gave up on them a while ago and aren't listening to their music. The world goes on but you're left without the delicious tastes that U2 can still bring to the dinner table....night in and night out.

pjrvm wrote:

and I think Bono's gone off the deep end a little bit with all his self-righteous bullshit.

Self-righteous? Bono has done more to make the world a better place than anyone on this board could even dream of doing. You call him self-righteous because he feels a deep social responsibility to use his celebrity in an extremely positive way? Please look up self-righteous in the dictionary before you go throwing it around in an ignorant thread.

Pearl Jam / U2 would be a dream show for many people, myself included. I cannot for the life of me understand the U2 hating that's been going on here. They're great people who do a lot for humanity. Their music is as relevant as it's ever been and they're still selling out damn near every stadium they play. Year after year after year. It's not like we're talking about fucking Nickelback or something. U2 has tenure and are rock Gods, no one can argue that.

nukeboot

neartodeath wrote:

living with war is a great cd. that whole new csny tour is built around that cd.

if you don't love that cd, well then...

Wow. That's good to hear. I'm surprised they're doing that after what they did last time. They're smart to do it since it is great stuff.

vsinjustice

3inputchick wrote:

I bet you alot of these folks would LOVE sternchat.com

hahahahahahha... is that the sound of sarcasm I hear? I hope so, cuz I don't know if they can handle it

aussiedeano

When U2 cancelled their tour in March due to family reasons, they could have just as easily finished the tour. For them to announce that they have rescheduled, I thought that was pretty good. Not many bands would have done that, especially for a show that U2 puts on. It has to be an expensive proposition doing this halfway around the world. As far as what they are charging, tickets here in Australia were as low as $99 for the cheap seats, which is what PJ are as well for all their seats.

If a band is going to put on a "show" like the Stones and U2 do, I expect to pay a bit more. They may gross $300 million, but what do they take home? Ok probably a lot, but that's life. I think I'm under paid in my job, but that's the way the cookie crumbles. I could have been a musician or actor if I put forth the effort like those people do. But you must admit, they do have a wee bit of talent to back it up, or we'd all be doing it!

As far as it's crap PJ are opening for U2, who cares???? They are together in the same venue, you get to see 2 awesome bands in one night, and the tickets will be well worth it. I spent $330 for my single GA ticket, and I have to fly to Hawaii from Australia, pay for 4 nights in a hotel, plus other various expenses, and I am happy to do it because I love music, and I love PJ & U2! I feel that they are well worth the money.....

Let's not worry about who is better or who should open for who, let's just go, support them, meet some new people and have a GREAT time, PJ & U2 fan alike! I can't wait to see you all at the Aloha Stadium! Maybe we could get the Foo Fighters to come, and maybe The Red Hot Chili Peppers will detour for it as well!

Peace out, y'all!!

brainofPJ

this thread is lame

bicyclejoe

pjrvm wrote:

I mean come on. U2 hasn't made a good record in about 15 years.

What hole have you been living in for 15 years? Let's see, there was a little album called "How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb" that cleaned up at the Grammys this year. Great, maybe not. But still, a very good record apparently.

erickvazdel

Im really bored about the "I hate u2 posts".

U2 is a great fucking band, they are a legend in the modern music, period.

brianjd

nukeboot wrote:

I'm with you on Pop Mart and Pop, but the ZooTV shows were great in support of Achtung Baby. I hit two of the "outdoor broadcasts" and they are in my top ten shows to this day. Zoo TV - Live from Australia comes out on DVD in September and mine is on pre-order.

Since I did not see the tour and you did ill take your word on it.

brianjd

dharma69 wrote:

I know someone who is a fan of these 2 bands.

He rags U2's ass on their concerts and setlist stagnation without mercy....yet U2 is one of his top 5 bands.

He hates Pearl Jam's Crazy Mary with a passion and a few other tunes, as well, will call Darth Vedder out on his political "crap"....yet PJ is his favorite band.

One band excels in the studio like no other; one band lives on the stage like no other. That's okay....no one band can do it all and do it all well. The point is they both excel.

How okay it is to be able find your own flaws with these bands, yet still love them? I think that's called having a brain and not being afraid to use it. I could not abide the PopMart nonsense. I cannot listen to Pop in one sitting; the album as a whole, is an undone mess. I can only hear it in pieces. I can also say the same for a PJ album or two.

The fact that these two bands exist in period of time when I can still get to enjoy them while they're still putting out quality is a gift. I'm not going to disrespect it or them. I just wish that they would have put this gig together while they were in California! Bring on the Bono/Vedder duet. Bring on The Edge/McCready guitar slinger-fest. Bring on the Clayton/Ament basslines and the Cameron/Mullen beats.

All good.

Id book my flight (which I am still contemplating). But I just think if you are not a huge U2 fan this may not be the show for you. It is quite an expensive undertaking if you don't live in Hawaii. For those of you already booking flights...don't. Pearl Jam has to play a solo show on the islands. How bummed would you be if you came in on the 7th and left on the 10th and Pearl Jam adds a December 11th show of their own...

I would be surprised if we see Mike or Stone on stage with u2. I would expect Bono to come out and sing a duet with PJ and Ed to do one with U2. That would be it. But who knows. I agree with this though, these are two great bands sharing the same stage. It is just too bad it is a u2 show and not a true dual billing giving each band equal time. however, if you have the means it could be amazing.

brianjd

aussiedeano wrote:

When U2 cancelled their tour in March due to family reasons, they could have just as easily finished the tour. For them to announce that they have rescheduled, I thought that was pretty good. Not many bands would have done that, especially for a show that U2 puts on. It has to be an expensive proposition doing this halfway around the world. As far as what they are charging, tickets here in Australia were as low as $99 for the cheap seats, which is what PJ are as well for all their seats.

If a band is going to put on a "show" like the Stones and U2 do, I expect to pay a bit more. They may gross $300 million, but what do they take home? Ok probably a lot, but that's life. I think I'm under paid in my job, but that's the way the cookie crumbles. I could have been a musician or actor if I put forth the effort like those people do. But you must admit, they do have a wee bit of talent to back it up, or we'd all be doing it!

As far as it's crap PJ are opening for U2, who cares???? They are together in the same venue, you get to see 2 awesome bands in one night, and the tickets will be well worth it. I spent $330 for my single GA ticket, and I have to fly to Hawaii from Australia, pay for 4 nights in a hotel, plus other various expenses, and I am happy to do it because I love music, and I love PJ & U2! I feel that they are well worth the money.....

Let's not worry about who is better or who should open for who, let's just go, support them, meet some new people and have a GREAT time, PJ & U2 fan alike! I can't wait to see you all at the Aloha Stadium! Maybe we could get the Foo Fighters to come, and maybe The Red Hot Chili Peppers will detour for it as well!

Peace out, y'all!!

Based on what they have done so far this summer, there doesn't appear to be a festival the Chili Peppers won't turn down this year.

brianjd

stonewastheprblm wrote:

Have you seen all these bands live? Im only 28 so I never saw Morrison ( I dont care for the Doors anyway) but I have seen all the others you mention live and Bono blows all of them off the stage hands down. Im not denying that they are all great (well...maybe not Morrison) but they all have a fraction of the stage presence that Bono has.

Well I am older than you and have seen many of them live. I am not old enough to have seen Morrison live but have watched as much Video of him as there is out there. I am not talking about 60 year old Roger Daltry's, Robert Plant, and Mick Jaggers. I am talking about when each was in his respective prime. They were amazing. I saw Mick Jagger for the first time just last year expecting nothing and I gotta tell you the guy was something else. And I was never a Stones fan.

As for the guitarists, last time I checked Townshend and Clapton are still alive and still playing. Buy a ticket dude. You might learn something.

brianjd

brianjd wrote:

Well I am older than you and have seen many of them live. I am not old enough to have seen Morrison live but have watched as much Video of him as there is out there. I am not talking about 60 year old Roger Daltry's, Robert Plant, and Mick Jaggers. I am talking about when each was in his respective prime. They were amazing. I saw Mick Jagger for the first time just last year expecting nothing and I gotta tell you the guy was something else. And I was never a Stones fan.

As for the guitarists, last time I checked Townshend and Clapton are still alive and still playing. Buy a ticket dude. You might learn something.

Robert Plant, Jim Morrison and Roger Daltry a FRACTION of Bono? Dude, your clearly under the influence of some kind of U2 voodoo medicine.

Stryker

We all have different tastes in music. I think PJ opening for U2 kicks ass. On the other hand, I thought PJ playing with Petty was pretty lame. Thats just my opinion. I don't think there is a band in the world that if PJ opened for that all the fans would be happy.

dharma69

brianjd wrote:

Id book my flight (which I am still contemplating). But I just think if you are not a huge U2 fan this may not be the show for you. It is quite an expensive undertaking if you don't live in Hawaii. For those of you already booking flights...don't. Pearl Jam has to play a solo show on the islands. How bummed would you be if you came in on the 7th and left on the 10th and Pearl Jam adds a December 11th show of their own...

I would be surprised if we see Mike or Stone on stage with u2. I would expect Bono to come out and sing a duet with PJ and Ed to do one with U2. That would be it. But who knows. I agree with this though, these are two great bands sharing the same stage. It is just too bad it is a u2 show and not a true dual billing giving each band equal time. however, if you have the means it could be amazing.

Now see....there you go making sense....stop it....please....

You make a point that some, in the heat of the moment, just might be overlooking: this is a U2 concert. A re-scheduled show where U2 IS the primary focus. Pearl Jam is (graciously) just along for the ride....a combo that I find mighty appealing.

But if it's the Pearl Jam experience that you're looking for then this may not be the gig for you. You will be disappointed, have spent a ton of money and then have no one to blame but yourself. Instead, hold out for a full on PJ show where you can get your full joy.

*bloody hell why didn't they put this gig together while they were in California???*

Sorry. Moving on....

brianjd

only 31 seconds of video but i do admit it looks anything but lame.......

http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=207355&goto=newpost

brianjd

here is the link......

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DS6y6RA-bKQ&search=pearl%20jam%20bono

brianjd

You be the Judge.......

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AO7kfM90w0k&search=u2%20eddie%20vedder