Knowing what you know now would you still support the withdrawal of troops from Iraq

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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    edited May 2015
    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    It was obviously inferred and we all know that but, no, not specifically stated as such. No use arguing the point though, is there?

    Probably not but if we can't even agree on the contents of four clear as day sentences how can we agree on anything else? Musky stated that he was proud of what the troops did over there and that some of you were not. This is not complicated. Most have you have been arguing that you are not proud of the invasion, you are not proud of what our military did, that the US did more harm then good. This doesn't mean you don't support the troops and no one suggested otherwise. It is just another strawman argument built up so that people can play the victim card.
    I don't know of a single person on this board that is not proud of US troops putting their lives in grave danger by following orders as they swore to do. It's the orders that are given as to deployment and stated enemy that's deplorable. This though shouldn't even have to be explained. It's so elementary but guess twisting reality to fit ones motivations blinds common sense.

    Post edited by callen on
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Musky, the battles our fine troops have been sent to do had nothing to do with freedom. See this is where your being fooled.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    muskydan said:

    brianlux said:

    It totally blows my mind that we're having this discussion at all. We have not been justifiably involved in any wars in at least the last 70 years.

    As for Musky's statement, let's hear from the man who wrote it. Tell us about it, Musky.

    So I see this got real stupid real quick from some of the sensitive ones on here. I still will never get how emotional people get about stuff that is written on a rock n roll Bands website. I will always support the opinion of a War Vet who saw with his own eyes over the opinion of people who have never been in a war or get their information from some stupid media source like the Guardian or the million other leftist blogs that preach non-sense about War and every other controversial topic. Does anyone really read those silly blog links that people post to support their argument anyway???
    It also looks like some people got their panties in a bunch because I used the word in general terms knuckleheads …..well boo- Fukin- huuu. Let's see, I have personally been called a Bigot, racist, to name a few off the top of my head and most recently in this thread a ASS-CLOWN. Name calling has never bothered me in any way shape or form anywhere. I have Been called every possible name in the book over the years. But where I come from ASS-CLOWN is a very derogatory word to a Gay man. I don't know what I have ever said to be described this way and it doesn't bother me in the least since some of the coolest kat's I know are Gay, but the source of the seems to be a very troubled individual in more ways than one so that need to be taken in account.
    So back to the important stuff, Thank you to Dirty again and anybody out there that served this wonderful Nation of ours and if you don't like it here GET THE FUCK OUT!!! Now get off your computer and enjoy this Memorial Day weekend with your family and Friends and if you see a Vet Thank them for the sacrifices they have made to allow you to have the right of a Opinion and the million other freedoms these men and woman have fought and and died for.
    So I guess you will be moving out of the US right?
    Someone who constantly criticizes and even shamelessly mocks the popularly elected executives who run his city and country must not love America and should get the fuck out...right?
    Or is it somehow OK to criticize our goverment spending tax money to help American citizens, but not OK to criticize spending tax money and American citizens' very lives to secure economic interests abroad?
    Is that how your mind works?
    That makes no sense.
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  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    hedonist said:

    badbrains said:

    I love how musky is trying to be a rat by not being a rat. Capitalizing the words I wrote hoping Kat or someone sees it and bans me. You're not as clever as you think you are oh Dan-o.

    For whatever it's worth, I don't want to see either of you banned.
    Ditto
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    edited May 2015
    callen said:

    Also know people that served in Iraq and you will get different opinions from different vets. So one opinion is just that. Do very much appreciate hearing from someone that was there.

    I know people that served and they have inherent need to believe what they did was correct and warranted.

    At this point knowing what we know now, we should clearly see that US or coalition of western troops has done nothing to help the situation and will not do anything going forward. We could go back in, clear out the baddies then what? Stay for 20 years? As soon as we leave back to square one or actually worse as we will have killed more of the indigenous people.

    We are being fed continuos dose of propaganda to make us hate the other guys. Link BS posted above perfect example. Don't be a BS and suck that shit up.

    That whole area is a cluster fuck.If we are there or not.It seems There is some inherent violence engrained in each generation.When we show up they just take a break from killing each other to fight us.
    This sect hates that sect,etc,etc.
    I don't get the the total disregard for human life and Human rights on behalf of these warring factions.All in the name of religion.Its a joke.

    And Thank You! To any present or former vet.You guys are the best.
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  • rr165892 said:

    callen said:

    Also know people that served in Iraq and you will get different opinions from different vets. So one opinion is just that. Do very much appreciate hearing from someone that was there.

    I know people that served and they have inherent need to believe what they did was correct and warranted.

    At this point knowing what we know now, we should clearly see that US or coalition of western troops has done nothing to help the situation and will not do anything going forward. We could go back in, clear out the baddies then what? Stay for 20 years? As soon as we leave back to square one or actually worse as we will have killed more of the indigenous people.

    We are being fed continuos dose of propaganda to make us hate the other guys. Link BS posted above perfect example. Don't be a BS and suck that shit up.

    I don't get the the total disregard for human life and Human rights on behalf of these warring factions.All in the name of religion.Its a joke.

    I don't get the disregard for human life fought by any religion either.
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    And it sure doesn't help when we kill, what's that number at now, 1,000,000+ Iraqi civilians? Doesn't seem to help.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    edited May 2015
    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    It was obviously inferred and we all know that but, no, not specifically stated as such. No use arguing the point though, is there?

    Probably not but if we can't even agree on the contents of four clear as day sentences how can we agree on anything else? Musky stated that he was proud of what the troops did over there and that some of you were not. This is not complicated. Most have you have been arguing that you are not proud of the invasion, you are not proud of what our military did, that the US did more harm then good. This doesn't mean you don't support the troops and no one suggested otherwise. It is just another strawman argument built up so that people can play the victim card.
    I don't know of a single person on this board that is not proud of US troops putting their lives in grave danger by following orders as they swore to do. It's the orders that are given as to deployment and stated enemy that's deplorable. This though shouldn't even have to be explained. It's so elementary but guess twisting reality to fit ones motivations blinds common sense.

    How soon you forget the Michael Moore thread discussing American Sniper.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/242094/michael-moore-proving-once-again

    Lot of people not "proud" of the troop's actions on there. Go back and read it if you like...a number of you including Brian and Badbrains clearly didn't have any pride for the Chris Kyles of this world who were just following orders. You yourself even said this:

    "I call those that stand up to invading force that has drones , jets, precision guided missiles and sharks with freakin laser beams Hero's."

    Essentially you were supporting any resistance to those Americans who were just following orders. It's a fine position to take if you want but don't expect US veterans to appreciate how proud you are of their service.
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623
    edited May 2015
    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    It was obviously inferred and we all know that but, no, not specifically stated as such. No use arguing the point though, is there?

    Probably not but if we can't even agree on the contents of four clear as day sentences how can we agree on anything else? Musky stated that he was proud of what the troops did over there and that some of you were not. This is not complicated. Most have you have been arguing that you are not proud of the invasion, you are not proud of what our military did, that the US did more harm then good. This doesn't mean you don't support the troops and no one suggested otherwise. It is just another strawman argument built up so that people can play the victim card.
    I don't know of a single person on this board that is not proud of US troops putting their lives in grave danger by following orders as they swore to do. It's the orders that are given as to deployment and stated enemy that's deplorable. This though shouldn't even have to be explained. It's so elementary but guess twisting reality to fit ones motivations blinds common sense.

    How soon you forget the Michael Moore thread discussing American Sniper.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/242094/michael-moore-proving-once-again

    Lot of people not "proud" of the troop's actions on there. Go back and read it if you like...a number of you including Brian and Badbrains clearly didn't have any pride for the Chris Kyles of this world who were just following orders. You yourself even said this:

    "I call those that stand up to invading force that has drones , jets, precision guided missiles and sharks with freakin laser beams Hero's."

    Essentially you were supporting any resistance to those Americans who were just following orders. It's a fine position to take if you want but don't expect US veterans to appreciate how proud you are of their service.
    Cool strawman, Dubya ass kissing brah. You seem to have no problem with Carson and Cruz voting nay on veteran's aid. Then again, you're a chickenhawk too like your fellow peas in a pod so why am I not surprised? As long as those with an R next to their name like them and Cotton do it, it's ok, right?
    Post edited by InHiding80 on
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    edited May 2015
    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    It was obviously inferred and we all know that but, no, not specifically stated as such. No use arguing the point though, is there?

    Probably not but if we can't even agree on the contents of four clear as day sentences how can we agree on anything else? Musky stated that he was proud of what the troops did over there and that some of you were not. This is not complicated. Most have you have been arguing that you are not proud of the invasion, you are not proud of what our military did, that the US did more harm then good. This doesn't mean you don't support the troops and no one suggested otherwise. It is just another strawman argument built up so that people can play the victim card.
    I don't know of a single person on this board that is not proud of US troops putting their lives in grave danger by following orders as they swore to do. It's the orders that are given as to deployment and stated enemy that's deplorable. This though shouldn't even have to be explained. It's so elementary but guess twisting reality to fit ones motivations blinds common sense.

    How soon you forget the Michael Moore thread discussing American Sniper.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/242094/michael-moore-proving-once-again

    Lot of people not "proud" of the troop's actions on there. Go back and read it if you like...a number of you including Brian and Badbrains clearly didn't have any pride for the Chris Kyles of this world who were just following orders. You yourself even said this:

    "I call those that stand up to invading force that has drones , jets, precision guided missiles and sharks with freakin laser beams Hero's."

    Essentially you were supporting any resistance to those Americans who were just following orders. It's a fine position to take if you want but don't expect US veterans to appreciate how proud you are of their service.
    I did and stand by whatever I said in that thread. I'm not a pussy ass chicken shit who slithers out of what I say. What's your point? I should be proud of someone like Chris? No thanks.

    Edit-and if I was a vet, you'd be the LAST person I'd want to be advocating for or thanking me for my services. I'd actually tell you to fuck off, if I was a vet.
    Post edited by badbrains on
  • muskydanmuskydan Posts: 1,013
    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    It was obviously inferred and we all know that but, no, not specifically stated as such. No use arguing the point though, is there?

    Probably not but if we can't even agree on the contents of four clear as day sentences how can we agree on anything else? Musky stated that he was proud of what the troops did over there and that some of you were not. This is not complicated. Most have you have been arguing that you are not proud of the invasion, you are not proud of what our military did, that the US did more harm then good. This doesn't mean you don't support the troops and no one suggested otherwise. It is just another strawman argument built up so that people can play the victim card.
    I don't know of a single person on this board that is not proud of US troops putting their lives in grave danger by following orders as they swore to do. It's the orders that are given as to deployment and stated enemy that's deplorable. This though shouldn't even have to be explained. It's so elementary but guess twisting reality to fit ones motivations blinds common sense.

    How soon you forget the Michael Moore thread discussing American Sniper.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/242094/michael-moore-proving-once-again

    Lot of people not "proud" of the troop's actions on there. Go back and read it if you like...a number of you including Brian and Badbrains clearly didn't have any pride for the Chris Kyles of this world who were just following orders. You yourself even said this:

    "I call those that stand up to invading force that has drones , jets, precision guided missiles and sharks with freakin laser beams Hero's."

    Essentially you were supporting any resistance to those Americans who were just following orders. It's a fine position to take if you want but don't expect US veterans to appreciate how proud you are of their service.
    I did and stand by whatever I said in that thread. I'm not a pussy ass chicken shit who slithers out of what I say. What's your point? I should be proud of someone like Chris? No thanks.

    Edit-and if I was a vet, you'd be the LAST person I'd want to be advocating for or thanking me for my services. I'd actually tell you to fuck off, if I was a vet.
    "if I was a vet"……that's priceless. Shame on you for even thinking let alone mentioning that on a day like today. Go back to the basement kid.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    It was obviously inferred and we all know that but, no, not specifically stated as such. No use arguing the point though, is there?

    Probably not but if we can't even agree on the contents of four clear as day sentences how can we agree on anything else? Musky stated that he was proud of what the troops did over there and that some of you were not. This is not complicated. Most have you have been arguing that you are not proud of the invasion, you are not proud of what our military did, that the US did more harm then good. This doesn't mean you don't support the troops and no one suggested otherwise. It is just another strawman argument built up so that people can play the victim card.
    I don't know of a single person on this board that is not proud of US troops putting their lives in grave danger by following orders as they swore to do. It's the orders that are given as to deployment and stated enemy that's deplorable. This though shouldn't even have to be explained. It's so elementary but guess twisting reality to fit ones motivations blinds common sense.

    How soon you forget the Michael Moore thread discussing American Sniper.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/242094/michael-moore-proving-once-again

    Lot of people not "proud" of the troop's actions on there. Go back and read it if you like...a number of you including Brian and Badbrains clearly didn't have any pride for the Chris Kyles of this world who were just following orders. You yourself even said this:

    "I call those that stand up to invading force that has drones , jets, precision guided missiles and sharks with freakin laser beams Hero's."

    Essentially you were supporting any resistance to those Americans who were just following orders. It's a fine position to take if you want but don't expect US veterans to appreciate how proud you are of their service.
    Cool strawman, Dubya ass kissing brah. You seem to have no problem with Carson and Cruz voting nay on veteran's aid. Then again, you're a chickenhawk too like your fellow peas in a pod so why am I not surprised? As long as those with an R next to their name like them and Cotton do it, it's ok, right?
    What are you even talking about? Make sentences please. Carson voting nay on veteran's aid? He's not even in office?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303

    BS44325 said:

    Uh yeah.

    Status of forces agreement, signed by GWB, guaranteed we would be out by the agreed upon date. Obama tried to keep us there. But they kicked us out.

    Don't pin the withdrawal on Obama, he could not make Iraq allow us to stay.

    You can't blame the successor, a man who never supported the war, for the fuck up of the predecessor.

    Let's cut the history revision crap please.

    So all things being equal you think the troops should have stayed?
    no. they never should have been there to begin with.

    i said it in 2003 back when people on this message board were telling me to get the fuck out of america. i protested. just like pearl jam, just like the dixie chicks. just like the countless other ones. we were right.
    Yet Ted Nugent and Phil Robertson go full retard and these cons cry "Freedom of speech! Wah! Derp! Murica!"
    ted nugent did everything in his power to avoid the draft. he shit himself and he lived in it for a week. people like that are not allowed to question the patriotism of people like me who chose to use my voice against unjust wars instead enlisting in them.

    i signed up at 18. i had no further obligation. i was not drafted because there was no draft. had i been drafted i would have gone. i would have gone and hated every minute of it. but i would not have avoided my responsibility, and i would not have sabotoged my duty had i been drafted.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303

    brianlux said:

    It totally blows my mind that we're having this discussion at all. We have not been justifiably involved in any wars in at least the last 70 years.

    As for Musky's statement, let's hear from the man who wrote it. Tell us about it, Musky.

    Afghanistan wasn't justifiable? Or the first gulf war?
    afghanistan was justifiable, in a sense that afghanistan was responsible for harboring the people that attacked us.

    iraq had nothing to do with it.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    muskydan said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    It was obviously inferred and we all know that but, no, not specifically stated as such. No use arguing the point though, is there?

    Probably not but if we can't even agree on the contents of four clear as day sentences how can we agree on anything else? Musky stated that he was proud of what the troops did over there and that some of you were not. This is not complicated. Most have you have been arguing that you are not proud of the invasion, you are not proud of what our military did, that the US did more harm then good. This doesn't mean you don't support the troops and no one suggested otherwise. It is just another strawman argument built up so that people can play the victim card.
    I don't know of a single person on this board that is not proud of US troops putting their lives in grave danger by following orders as they swore to do. It's the orders that are given as to deployment and stated enemy that's deplorable. This though shouldn't even have to be explained. It's so elementary but guess twisting reality to fit ones motivations blinds common sense.

    How soon you forget the Michael Moore thread discussing American Sniper.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/242094/michael-moore-proving-once-again

    Lot of people not "proud" of the troop's actions on there. Go back and read it if you like...a number of you including Brian and Badbrains clearly didn't have any pride for the Chris Kyles of this world who were just following orders. You yourself even said this:

    "I call those that stand up to invading force that has drones , jets, precision guided missiles and sharks with freakin laser beams Hero's."

    Essentially you were supporting any resistance to those Americans who were just following orders. It's a fine position to take if you want but don't expect US veterans to appreciate how proud you are of their service.
    I did and stand by whatever I said in that thread. I'm not a pussy ass chicken shit who slithers out of what I say. What's your point? I should be proud of someone like Chris? No thanks.

    Edit-and if I was a vet, you'd be the LAST person I'd want to be advocating for or thanking me for my services. I'd actually tell you to fuck off, if I was a vet.
    "if I was a vet"……that's priceless. Shame on you for even thinking let alone mentioning that on a day like today. Go back to the basement kid.
    You packin' up yet?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    chest beat much??

    is this the internet??

    yep...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    It was obviously inferred and we all know that but, no, not specifically stated as such. No use arguing the point though, is there?

    Probably not but if we can't even agree on the contents of four clear as day sentences how can we agree on anything else? Musky stated that he was proud of what the troops did over there and that some of you were not. This is not complicated. Most have you have been arguing that you are not proud of the invasion, you are not proud of what our military did, that the US did more harm then good. This doesn't mean you don't support the troops and no one suggested otherwise. It is just another strawman argument built up so that people can play the victim card.
    I don't know of a single person on this board that is not proud of US troops putting their lives in grave danger by following orders as they swore to do. It's the orders that are given as to deployment and stated enemy that's deplorable. This though shouldn't even have to be explained. It's so elementary but guess twisting reality to fit ones motivations blinds common sense.

    How soon you forget the Michael Moore thread discussing American Sniper.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/242094/michael-moore-proving-once-again

    Lot of people not "proud" of the troop's actions on there. Go back and read it if you like...a number of you including Brian and Badbrains clearly didn't have any pride for the Chris Kyles of this world who were just following orders. You yourself even said this:

    "I call those that stand up to invading force that has drones , jets, precision guided missiles and sharks with freakin laser beams Hero's."

    Essentially you were supporting any resistance to those Americans who were just following orders. It's a fine position to take if you want but don't expect US veterans to appreciate how proud you are of their service.
    I did and stand by whatever I said in that thread. I'm not a pussy ass chicken shit who slithers out of what I say. What's your point? I should be proud of someone like Chris? No thanks.

    Edit-and if I was a vet, you'd be the LAST person I'd want to be advocating for or thanking me for my services. I'd actually tell you to fuck off, if I was a vet.
    Well you are not a vet and I didn't expect for you to back down on your Chris Kyle comments. That's my point. When Callen says he "doesn't know a single person on these boards who isn't proud of the troops" I can tell him that you said otherwise.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited May 2015
    If a man talks to himself in the forest and no one else hears, is he still wrong?
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    It was obviously inferred and we all know that but, no, not specifically stated as such. No use arguing the point though, is there?

    Probably not but if we can't even agree on the contents of four clear as day sentences how can we agree on anything else? Musky stated that he was proud of what the troops did over there and that some of you were not. This is not complicated. Most have you have been arguing that you are not proud of the invasion, you are not proud of what our military did, that the US did more harm then good. This doesn't mean you don't support the troops and no one suggested otherwise. It is just another strawman argument built up so that people can play the victim card.
    I don't know of a single person on this board that is not proud of US troops putting their lives in grave danger by following orders as they swore to do. It's the orders that are given as to deployment and stated enemy that's deplorable. This though shouldn't even have to be explained. It's so elementary but guess twisting reality to fit ones motivations blinds common sense.

    How soon you forget the Michael Moore thread discussing American Sniper.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/242094/michael-moore-proving-once-again

    Lot of people not "proud" of the troop's actions on there. Go back and read it if you like...a number of you including Brian and Badbrains clearly didn't have any pride for the Chris Kyles of this world who were just following orders. You yourself even said this:

    "I call those that stand up to invading force that has drones , jets, precision guided missiles and sharks with freakin laser beams Hero's."

    Essentially you were supporting any resistance to those Americans who were just following orders. It's a fine position to take if you want but don't expect US veterans to appreciate how proud you are of their service.
    I did and stand by whatever I said in that thread. I'm not a pussy ass chicken shit who slithers out of what I say. What's your point? I should be proud of someone like Chris? No thanks.

    Edit-and if I was a vet, you'd be the LAST person I'd want to be advocating for or thanking me for my services. I'd actually tell you to fuck off, if I was a vet.
    Well you are not a vet and I didn't expect for you to back down on your Chris Kyle comments. That's my point. When Callen says he "doesn't know a single person on these boards who isn't proud of the troops" I can tell him that you said otherwise.
    Wait, so me not supporting Chris Kyle means I don't support ALL troops? Lol, what does someone say to this delusional post? And since you posted a link to that Michael Moore thread, there's a link in there of an American sniper calling out that same Chris Kyle. Why don't you go re-read that thread.
  • muskydanmuskydan Posts: 1,013
    rgambs said:

    muskydan said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    It was obviously inferred and we all know that but, no, not specifically stated as such. No use arguing the point though, is there?

    Probably not but if we can't even agree on the contents of four clear as day sentences how can we agree on anything else? Musky stated that he was proud of what the troops did over there and that some of you were not. This is not complicated. Most have you have been arguing that you are not proud of the invasion, you are not proud of what our military did, that the US did more harm then good. This doesn't mean you don't support the troops and no one suggested otherwise. It is just another strawman argument built up so that people can play the victim card.
    I don't know of a single person on this board that is not proud of US troops putting their lives in grave danger by following orders as they swore to do. It's the orders that are given as to deployment and stated enemy that's deplorable. This though shouldn't even have to be explained. It's so elementary but guess twisting reality to fit ones motivations blinds common sense.

    How soon you forget the Michael Moore thread discussing American Sniper.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/242094/michael-moore-proving-once-again

    Lot of people not "proud" of the troop's actions on there. Go back and read it if you like...a number of you including Brian and Badbrains clearly didn't have any pride for the Chris Kyles of this world who were just following orders. You yourself even said this:

    "I call those that stand up to invading force that has drones , jets, precision guided missiles and sharks with freakin laser beams Hero's."

    Essentially you were supporting any resistance to those Americans who were just following orders. It's a fine position to take if you want but don't expect US veterans to appreciate how proud you are of their service.
    I did and stand by whatever I said in that thread. I'm not a pussy ass chicken shit who slithers out of what I say. What's your point? I should be proud of someone like Chris? No thanks.

    Edit-and if I was a vet, you'd be the LAST person I'd want to be advocating for or thanking me for my services. I'd actually tell you to fuck off, if I was a vet.
    "if I was a vet"……that's priceless. Shame on you for even thinking let alone mentioning that on a day like today. Go back to the basement kid.
    You packin' up yet?
    How did you know?? I am gathering my gear as we speak for a Musky trip to the great state of Wisconsin as I am watching the Blackhawks….thanks for asking…GO HAWKS!!!
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    muskydan said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    It was obviously inferred and we all know that but, no, not specifically stated as such. No use arguing the point though, is there?

    Probably not but if we can't even agree on the contents of four clear as day sentences how can we agree on anything else? Musky stated that he was proud of what the troops did over there and that some of you were not. This is not complicated. Most have you have been arguing that you are not proud of the invasion, you are not proud of what our military did, that the US did more harm then good. This doesn't mean you don't support the troops and no one suggested otherwise. It is just another strawman argument built up so that people can play the victim card.
    I don't know of a single person on this board that is not proud of US troops putting their lives in grave danger by following orders as they swore to do. It's the orders that are given as to deployment and stated enemy that's deplorable. This though shouldn't even have to be explained. It's so elementary but guess twisting reality to fit ones motivations blinds common sense.

    How soon you forget the Michael Moore thread discussing American Sniper.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/242094/michael-moore-proving-once-again

    Lot of people not "proud" of the troop's actions on there. Go back and read it if you like...a number of you including Brian and Badbrains clearly didn't have any pride for the Chris Kyles of this world who were just following orders. You yourself even said this:

    "I call those that stand up to invading force that has drones , jets, precision guided missiles and sharks with freakin laser beams Hero's."

    Essentially you were supporting any resistance to those Americans who were just following orders. It's a fine position to take if you want but don't expect US veterans to appreciate how proud you are of their service.
    I did and stand by whatever I said in that thread. I'm not a pussy ass chicken shit who slithers out of what I say. What's your point? I should be proud of someone like Chris? No thanks.

    Edit-and if I was a vet, you'd be the LAST person I'd want to be advocating for or thanking me for my services. I'd actually tell you to fuck off, if I was a vet.
    "if I was a vet"……that's priceless. Shame on you for even thinking let alone mentioning that on a day like today. Go back to the basement kid.
    Shame on me? Really musky? Mr story teller, shame on me? Should I tell everyone what I found out about your stories you "claim" happened? Shame on you for using the vets in the manner you did trying to promote your lame ass agenda. Should I tell this site? Let everyone know what kind of a phony you are? I've been sitting on it for a while. Maybe I should share with everyone so they can see how shameful you are. You remind me of those guys who dress up as vets and try to get special treatment, only to be found out as phonies. Being ridiculed by someone like you ain't shit, seeing that you're the source of the ridicule.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    It was obviously inferred and we all know that but, no, not specifically stated as such. No use arguing the point though, is there?

    Probably not but if we can't even agree on the contents of four clear as day sentences how can we agree on anything else? Musky stated that he was proud of what the troops did over there and that some of you were not. This is not complicated. Most have you have been arguing that you are not proud of the invasion, you are not proud of what our military did, that the US did more harm then good. This doesn't mean you don't support the troops and no one suggested otherwise. It is just another strawman argument built up so that people can play the victim card.
    I don't know of a single person on this board that is not proud of US troops putting their lives in grave danger by following orders as they swore to do. It's the orders that are given as to deployment and stated enemy that's deplorable. This though shouldn't even have to be explained. It's so elementary but guess twisting reality to fit ones motivations blinds common sense.

    How soon you forget the Michael Moore thread discussing American Sniper.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/242094/michael-moore-proving-once-again

    Lot of people not "proud" of the troop's actions on there. Go back and read it if you like...a number of you including Brian and Badbrains clearly didn't have any pride for the Chris Kyles of this world who were just following orders. You yourself even said this:

    "I call those that stand up to invading force that has drones , jets, precision guided missiles and sharks with freakin laser beams Hero's."

    Essentially you were supporting any resistance to those Americans who were just following orders. It's a fine position to take if you want but don't expect US veterans to appreciate how proud you are of their service.
    I did and stand by whatever I said in that thread. I'm not a pussy ass chicken shit who slithers out of what I say. What's your point? I should be proud of someone like Chris? No thanks.

    Edit-and if I was a vet, you'd be the LAST person I'd want to be advocating for or thanking me for my services. I'd actually tell you to fuck off, if I was a vet.
    Well you are not a vet and I didn't expect for you to back down on your Chris Kyle comments. That's my point. When Callen says he "doesn't know a single person on these boards who isn't proud of the troops" I can tell him that you said otherwise.
    Wait, so me not supporting Chris Kyle means I don't support ALL troops? Lol, what does someone say to this delusional post? And since you posted a link to that Michael Moore thread, there's a link in there of an American sniper calling out that same Chris Kyle. Why don't you go re-read that thread.
    I swear I might be going crazy. Do you not understand the difference between "proud" and "support"? I really wish you had the ability to follow the flow of these threads. Musky used the term "proud". You and Brian then worked yourself up into a lather on being accused of not "supporting" the troops. I corrected you guys. Callen then said he's never seen anyone say they are not "proud". I showed an instance where you did just that and which you confirmed. Does that mean that you don't support the troops in general? Of course not. It seems you are an expert on the term "ass-clown" but have no clue when it comes to the difference between "proud" and "support".
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    It was obviously inferred and we all know that but, no, not specifically stated as such. No use arguing the point though, is there?

    Probably not but if we can't even agree on the contents of four clear as day sentences how can we agree on anything else? Musky stated that he was proud of what the troops did over there and that some of you were not. This is not complicated. Most have you have been arguing that you are not proud of the invasion, you are not proud of what our military did, that the US did more harm then good. This doesn't mean you don't support the troops and no one suggested otherwise. It is just another strawman argument built up so that people can play the victim card.
    I don't know of a single person on this board that is not proud of US troops putting their lives in grave danger by following orders as they swore to do. It's the orders that are given as to deployment and stated enemy that's deplorable. This though shouldn't even have to be explained. It's so elementary but guess twisting reality to fit ones motivations blinds common sense.

    How soon you forget the Michael Moore thread discussing American Sniper.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/242094/michael-moore-proving-once-again

    Lot of people not "proud" of the troop's actions on there. Go back and read it if you like...a number of you including Brian and Badbrains clearly didn't have any pride for the Chris Kyles of this world who were just following orders. You yourself even said this:

    "I call those that stand up to invading force that has drones , jets, precision guided missiles and sharks with freakin laser beams Hero's."

    Essentially you were supporting any resistance to those Americans who were just following orders. It's a fine position to take if you want but don't expect US veterans to appreciate how proud you are of their service.
    I did and stand by whatever I said in that thread. I'm not a pussy ass chicken shit who slithers out of what I say. What's your point? I should be proud of someone like Chris? No thanks.

    Edit-and if I was a vet, you'd be the LAST person I'd want to be advocating for or thanking me for my services. I'd actually tell you to fuck off, if I was a vet.
    Well you are not a vet and I didn't expect for you to back down on your Chris Kyle comments. That's my point. When Callen says he "doesn't know a single person on these boards who isn't proud of the troops" I can tell him that you said otherwise.
    Wait, so me not supporting Chris Kyle means I don't support ALL troops? Lol, what does someone say to this delusional post? And since you posted a link to that Michael Moore thread, there's a link in there of an American sniper calling out that same Chris Kyle. Why don't you go re-read that thread.
    I swear I might be going crazy. Do you not understand the difference between "proud" and "support"? I really wish you had the ability to follow the flow of these threads. Musky used the term "proud". You and Brian then worked yourself up into a lather on being accused of not "supporting" the troops. I corrected you guys. Callen then said he's never seen anyone say they are not "proud". I showed an instance where you did just that and which you confirmed. Does that mean that you don't support the troops in general? Of course not. It seems you are an expert on the term "ass-clown" but have no clue when it comes to the difference between "proud" and "support".
    Are you fucken kidding me? So your acting like an ass over "proud" or "support"? Here Einstein, I'm not "proud" or "support" what Chris Kyle did. Is that clear enough for you? Does that make sense to you professor? You corrected us? Lol, you mean like H2M and drowned out have been handing you your ass? Is that what you mean? Lol

    You burned me. I need a hug. I've said it before, get off the bath salts.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    It was obviously inferred and we all know that but, no, not specifically stated as such. No use arguing the point though, is there?

    Probably not but if we can't even agree on the contents of four clear as day sentences how can we agree on anything else? Musky stated that he was proud of what the troops did over there and that some of you were not. This is not complicated. Most have you have been arguing that you are not proud of the invasion, you are not proud of what our military did, that the US did more harm then good. This doesn't mean you don't support the troops and no one suggested otherwise. It is just another strawman argument built up so that people can play the victim card.
    I don't know of a single person on this board that is not proud of US troops putting their lives in grave danger by following orders as they swore to do. It's the orders that are given as to deployment and stated enemy that's deplorable. This though shouldn't even have to be explained. It's so elementary but guess twisting reality to fit ones motivations blinds common sense.

    How soon you forget the Michael Moore thread discussing American Sniper.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/242094/michael-moore-proving-once-again

    Lot of people not "proud" of the troop's actions on there. Go back and read it if you like...a number of you including Brian and Badbrains clearly didn't have any pride for the Chris Kyles of this world who were just following orders. You yourself even said this:

    "I call those that stand up to invading force that has drones , jets, precision guided missiles and sharks with freakin laser beams Hero's."

    Essentially you were supporting any resistance to those Americans who were just following orders. It's a fine position to take if you want but don't expect US veterans to appreciate how proud you are of their service.
    I did and stand by whatever I said in that thread. I'm not a pussy ass chicken shit who slithers out of what I say. What's your point? I should be proud of someone like Chris? No thanks.

    Edit-and if I was a vet, you'd be the LAST person I'd want to be advocating for or thanking me for my services. I'd actually tell you to fuck off, if I was a vet.
    Well you are not a vet and I didn't expect for you to back down on your Chris Kyle comments. That's my point. When Callen says he "doesn't know a single person on these boards who isn't proud of the troops" I can tell him that you said otherwise.
    Wait, so me not supporting Chris Kyle means I don't support ALL troops? Lol, what does someone say to this delusional post? And since you posted a link to that Michael Moore thread, there's a link in there of an American sniper calling out that same Chris Kyle. Why don't you go re-read that thread.
    I swear I might be going crazy. Do you not understand the difference between "proud" and "support"? I really wish you had the ability to follow the flow of these threads. Musky used the term "proud". You and Brian then worked yourself up into a lather on being accused of not "supporting" the troops. I corrected you guys. Callen then said he's never seen anyone say they are not "proud". I showed an instance where you did just that and which you confirmed. Does that mean that you don't support the troops in general? Of course not. It seems you are an expert on the term "ass-clown" but have no clue when it comes to the difference between "proud" and "support".
    Are you fucken kidding me? So your acting like an ass over "proud" or "support"? Here Einstein, I'm not "proud" or "support" what Chris Kyle did. Is that clear enough for you? Does that make sense to you professor? You corrected us? Lol, you mean like H2M and drowned out have been handing you your ass? Is that what you mean? Lol

    You burned me. I need a hug. I've said it before, get off the bath salts.
    Again...thank you. This is exactly what I was saying to Callen. People who think the invasion was wrong, that american troops did more harm then good and are not proud of the harm the troops caused are entitled to feel that way. You can feel that way without having your overall support of the troops questioned. Now go get that hug.
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    muskydan said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    It was obviously inferred and we all know that but, no, not specifically stated as such. No use arguing the point though, is there?

    Probably not but if we can't even agree on the contents of four clear as day sentences how can we agree on anything else? Musky stated that he was proud of what the troops did over there and that some of you were not. This is not complicated. Most have you have been arguing that you are not proud of the invasion, you are not proud of what our military did, that the US did more harm then good. This doesn't mean you don't support the troops and no one suggested otherwise. It is just another strawman argument built up so that people can play the victim card.
    I don't know of a single person on this board that is not proud of US troops putting their lives in grave danger by following orders as they swore to do. It's the orders that are given as to deployment and stated enemy that's deplorable. This though shouldn't even have to be explained. It's so elementary but guess twisting reality to fit ones motivations blinds common sense.

    How soon you forget the Michael Moore thread discussing American Sniper.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/242094/michael-moore-proving-once-again

    Lot of people not "proud" of the troop's actions on there. Go back and read it if you like...a number of you including Brian and Badbrains clearly didn't have any pride for the Chris Kyles of this world who were just following orders. You yourself even said this:

    "I call those that stand up to invading force that has drones , jets, precision guided missiles and sharks with freakin laser beams Hero's."

    Essentially you were supporting any resistance to those Americans who were just following orders. It's a fine position to take if you want but don't expect US veterans to appreciate how proud you are of their service.
    I did and stand by whatever I said in that thread. I'm not a pussy ass chicken shit who slithers out of what I say. What's your point? I should be proud of someone like Chris? No thanks.

    Edit-and if I was a vet, you'd be the LAST person I'd want to be advocating for or thanking me for my services. I'd actually tell you to fuck off, if I was a vet.
    "if I was a vet"……that's priceless. Shame on you for even thinking let alone mentioning that on a day like today. Go back to the basement kid.
    this is getting old as the crust in your tiddy whities
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    It was obviously inferred and we all know that but, no, not specifically stated as such. No use arguing the point though, is there?

    Probably not but if we can't even agree on the contents of four clear as day sentences how can we agree on anything else? Musky stated that he was proud of what the troops did over there and that some of you were not. This is not complicated. Most have you have been arguing that you are not proud of the invasion, you are not proud of what our military did, that the US did more harm then good. This doesn't mean you don't support the troops and no one suggested otherwise. It is just another strawman argument built up so that people can play the victim card.
    I don't know of a single person on this board that is not proud of US troops putting their lives in grave danger by following orders as they swore to do. It's the orders that are given as to deployment and stated enemy that's deplorable. This though shouldn't even have to be explained. It's so elementary but guess twisting reality to fit ones motivations blinds common sense.

    How soon you forget the Michael Moore thread discussing American Sniper.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/242094/michael-moore-proving-once-again

    Lot of people not "proud" of the troop's actions on there. Go back and read it if you like...a number of you including Brian and Badbrains clearly didn't have any pride for the Chris Kyles of this world who were just following orders. You yourself even said this:

    "I call those that stand up to invading force that has drones , jets, precision guided missiles and sharks with freakin laser beams Hero's."

    Essentially you were supporting any resistance to those Americans who were just following orders. It's a fine position to take if you want but don't expect US veterans to appreciate how proud you are of their service.
    I did and stand by whatever I said in that thread. I'm not a pussy ass chicken shit who slithers out of what I say. What's your point? I should be proud of someone like Chris? No thanks.

    Edit-and if I was a vet, you'd be the LAST person I'd want to be advocating for or thanking me for my services. I'd actually tell you to fuck off, if I was a vet.
    Well you are not a vet and I didn't expect for you to back down on your Chris Kyle comments. That's my point. When Callen says he "doesn't know a single person on these boards who isn't proud of the troops" I can tell him that you said otherwise.
    Wait, so me not supporting Chris Kyle means I don't support ALL troops? Lol, what does someone say to this delusional post? And since you posted a link to that Michael Moore thread, there's a link in there of an American sniper calling out that same Chris Kyle. Why don't you go re-read that thread.
    I swear I might be going crazy. Do you not understand the difference between "proud" and "support"? I really wish you had the ability to follow the flow of these threads. Musky used the term "proud". You and Brian then worked yourself up into a lather on being accused of not "supporting" the troops. I corrected you guys. Callen then said he's never seen anyone say they are not "proud". I showed an instance where you did just that and which you confirmed. Does that mean that you don't support the troops in general? Of course not. It seems you are an expert on the term "ass-clown" but have no clue when it comes to the difference between "proud" and "support".
    Are you fucken kidding me? So your acting like an ass over "proud" or "support"? Here Einstein, I'm not "proud" or "support" what Chris Kyle did. Is that clear enough for you? Does that make sense to you professor? You corrected us? Lol, you mean like H2M and drowned out have been handing you your ass? Is that what you mean? Lol

    You burned me. I need a hug. I've said it before, get off the bath salts.
    Again...thank you. This is exactly what I was saying to Callen. People who think the invasion was wrong, that american troops did more harm then good and are not proud of the harm the troops caused are entitled to feel that way. You can feel that way without having your overall support of the troops questioned. Now go get that hug.
    Ah, ok
  • muskydanmuskydan Posts: 1,013
    badbrains said:

    muskydan said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    It was obviously inferred and we all know that but, no, not specifically stated as such. No use arguing the point though, is there?

    Probably not but if we can't even agree on the contents of four clear as day sentences how can we agree on anything else? Musky stated that he was proud of what the troops did over there and that some of you were not. This is not complicated. Most have you have been arguing that you are not proud of the invasion, you are not proud of what our military did, that the US did more harm then good. This doesn't mean you don't support the troops and no one suggested otherwise. It is just another strawman argument built up so that people can play the victim card.
    I don't know of a single person on this board that is not proud of US troops putting their lives in grave danger by following orders as they swore to do. It's the orders that are given as to deployment and stated enemy that's deplorable. This though shouldn't even have to be explained. It's so elementary but guess twisting reality to fit ones motivations blinds common sense.

    How soon you forget the Michael Moore thread discussing American Sniper.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/242094/michael-moore-proving-once-again

    Lot of people not "proud" of the troop's actions on there. Go back and read it if you like...a number of you including Brian and Badbrains clearly didn't have any pride for the Chris Kyles of this world who were just following orders. You yourself even said this:

    "I call those that stand up to invading force that has drones , jets, precision guided missiles and sharks with freakin laser beams Hero's."

    Essentially you were supporting any resistance to those Americans who were just following orders. It's a fine position to take if you want but don't expect US veterans to appreciate how proud you are of their service.
    I did and stand by whatever I said in that thread. I'm not a pussy ass chicken shit who slithers out of what I say. What's your point? I should be proud of someone like Chris? No thanks.

    Edit-and if I was a vet, you'd be the LAST person I'd want to be advocating for or thanking me for my services. I'd actually tell you to fuck off, if I was a vet.
    "if I was a vet"……that's priceless. Shame on you for even thinking let alone mentioning that on a day like today. Go back to the basement kid.
    Shame on me? Really musky? Mr story teller, shame on me? Should I tell everyone what I found out about your stories you "claim" happened? Shame on you for using the vets in the manner you did trying to promote your lame ass agenda. Should I tell this site? Let everyone know what kind of a phony you are? I've been sitting on it for a while. Maybe I should share with everyone so they can see how shameful you are. You remind me of those guys who dress up as vets and try to get special treatment, only to be found out as phonies. Being ridiculed by someone like you ain't shit, seeing that you're the source of the ridicule.
    Pretty Please…This aught to be really entertaining. Please enlighten the group about what I have experienced in my own life. I love it how some people think that if its not on the internet it did not happen. Getting back to the point, if you don't understand how offensive it is making a comment like "if I were a VET" then there are many many things you need to reconsider about yourself. GOD BLESS THE USA on this day and everyday…
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    muskydan said:

    badbrains said:

    muskydan said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    It was obviously inferred and we all know that but, no, not specifically stated as such. No use arguing the point though, is there?

    Probably not but if we can't even agree on the contents of four clear as day sentences how can we agree on anything else? Musky stated that he was proud of what the troops did over there and that some of you were not. This is not complicated. Most have you have been arguing that you are not proud of the invasion, you are not proud of what our military did, that the US did more harm then good. This doesn't mean you don't support the troops and no one suggested otherwise. It is just another strawman argument built up so that people can play the victim card.
    I don't know of a single person on this board that is not proud of US troops putting their lives in grave danger by following orders as they swore to do. It's the orders that are given as to deployment and stated enemy that's deplorable. This though shouldn't even have to be explained. It's so elementary but guess twisting reality to fit ones motivations blinds common sense.

    How soon you forget the Michael Moore thread discussing American Sniper.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/242094/michael-moore-proving-once-again

    Lot of people not "proud" of the troop's actions on there. Go back and read it if you like...a number of you including Brian and Badbrains clearly didn't have any pride for the Chris Kyles of this world who were just following orders. You yourself even said this:

    "I call those that stand up to invading force that has drones , jets, precision guided missiles and sharks with freakin laser beams Hero's."

    Essentially you were supporting any resistance to those Americans who were just following orders. It's a fine position to take if you want but don't expect US veterans to appreciate how proud you are of their service.
    I did and stand by whatever I said in that thread. I'm not a pussy ass chicken shit who slithers out of what I say. What's your point? I should be proud of someone like Chris? No thanks.

    Edit-and if I was a vet, you'd be the LAST person I'd want to be advocating for or thanking me for my services. I'd actually tell you to fuck off, if I was a vet.
    "if I was a vet"……that's priceless. Shame on you for even thinking let alone mentioning that on a day like today. Go back to the basement kid.
    Shame on me? Really musky? Mr story teller, shame on me? Should I tell everyone what I found out about your stories you "claim" happened? Shame on you for using the vets in the manner you did trying to promote your lame ass agenda. Should I tell this site? Let everyone know what kind of a phony you are? I've been sitting on it for a while. Maybe I should share with everyone so they can see how shameful you are. You remind me of those guys who dress up as vets and try to get special treatment, only to be found out as phonies. Being ridiculed by someone like you ain't shit, seeing that you're the source of the ridicule.
    Pretty Please…This aught to be really entertaining. Please enlighten the group about what I have experienced in my own life. I love it how some people think that if its not on the internet it did not happen. Getting back to the point, if you don't understand how offensive it is making a comment like "if I were a VET" then there are many many things you need to reconsider about yourself. GOD BLESS THE USA on this day and everyday…
    Except on the days when liberals are elected, then it's ok to criticize, right? Pack up and move out America hater lol
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    muskydan said:

    badbrains said:

    muskydan said:

    badbrains said:

    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    brianlux said:

    It was obviously inferred and we all know that but, no, not specifically stated as such. No use arguing the point though, is there?

    Probably not but if we can't even agree on the contents of four clear as day sentences how can we agree on anything else? Musky stated that he was proud of what the troops did over there and that some of you were not. This is not complicated. Most have you have been arguing that you are not proud of the invasion, you are not proud of what our military did, that the US did more harm then good. This doesn't mean you don't support the troops and no one suggested otherwise. It is just another strawman argument built up so that people can play the victim card.
    I don't know of a single person on this board that is not proud of US troops putting their lives in grave danger by following orders as they swore to do. It's the orders that are given as to deployment and stated enemy that's deplorable. This though shouldn't even have to be explained. It's so elementary but guess twisting reality to fit ones motivations blinds common sense.

    How soon you forget the Michael Moore thread discussing American Sniper.

    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/242094/michael-moore-proving-once-again

    Lot of people not "proud" of the troop's actions on there. Go back and read it if you like...a number of you including Brian and Badbrains clearly didn't have any pride for the Chris Kyles of this world who were just following orders. You yourself even said this:

    "I call those that stand up to invading force that has drones , jets, precision guided missiles and sharks with freakin laser beams Hero's."

    Essentially you were supporting any resistance to those Americans who were just following orders. It's a fine position to take if you want but don't expect US veterans to appreciate how proud you are of their service.
    I did and stand by whatever I said in that thread. I'm not a pussy ass chicken shit who slithers out of what I say. What's your point? I should be proud of someone like Chris? No thanks.

    Edit-and if I was a vet, you'd be the LAST person I'd want to be advocating for or thanking me for my services. I'd actually tell you to fuck off, if I was a vet.
    "if I was a vet"……that's priceless. Shame on you for even thinking let alone mentioning that on a day like today. Go back to the basement kid.
    Shame on me? Really musky? Mr story teller, shame on me? Should I tell everyone what I found out about your stories you "claim" happened? Shame on you for using the vets in the manner you did trying to promote your lame ass agenda. Should I tell this site? Let everyone know what kind of a phony you are? I've been sitting on it for a while. Maybe I should share with everyone so they can see how shameful you are. You remind me of those guys who dress up as vets and try to get special treatment, only to be found out as phonies. Being ridiculed by someone like you ain't shit, seeing that you're the source of the ridicule.
    Pretty Please…This aught to be really entertaining. Please enlighten the group about what I have experienced in my own life. I love it how some people think that if its not on the internet it did not happen. Getting back to the point, if you don't understand how offensive it is making a comment like "if I were a VET" then there are many many things you need to reconsider about yourself. GOD BLESS THE USA on this day and everyday…
    How do u even know that's what I was even referring to? As for my comment "if I was a vet" being offensive, how? I've done more trying to support the vets and keeping them home, and SAFE then you ever will. If that is offensive in any way, so be it. I can live with it. As for you and your stories, says a lot about you as a person knowing you have no issue with what bullshit you lied about. And to have no shame in it. You're a real piece of work Dan. You really are.
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    "Our number one job is to make this president fail." How proud you all must be seeing that the president is also our commander in chief, whether he served or not. Rah, rah, rah, USA, USA, USA! Just thought I'd remind you of your party's leadership on this day of all days.
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