Knowing what you know now would you still support the withdrawal of troops from Iraq

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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    BS44325 said:

    Musky never accused any of you "knuckleheads" of not supporting the troops. Go back and read it. He was talking about Dirty's knowledge of what went on over there.

    Sensitive much?

    Perhaps you should go back and read it yourself.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,586
    edited May 2015
    BS44325 said:

    Musky never accused any of you "knuckleheads" of not supporting the troops. Go back and read it. He was talking about Dirty's knowledge of what went on over there.

    Sensitive much?

    Off course he did & you just did it again ...You knucklehead
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    Musky never accused any of you "knuckleheads" of not supporting the troops. Go back and read it. He was talking about Dirty's knowledge of what went on over there.

    Sensitive much?

    Perhaps you should go back and read it yourself.
    Just did.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    josevolution said:

    BS44325 said:

    Musky never accused any of you "knuckleheads" of not supporting the troops. Go back and read it. He was talking about Dirty's knowledge of what went on over there.

    Sensitive much?

    Off course he did & you just did it again ...You knucklehead
    Nope.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    It was obviously inferred and we all know that but, no, not specifically stated as such. No use arguing the point though, is there?
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  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    Musky never accused any of you "knuckleheads" of not supporting the troops. Go back and read it. He was talking about Dirty's knowledge of what went on over there.

    Sensitive much?

    Perhaps you should go back and read it yourself.
    Just did.
    Having Fox News translate it for you=/=reading.
  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    BS44325 said:

    josevolution said:

    BS44325 said:

    Musky never accused any of you "knuckleheads" of not supporting the troops. Go back and read it. He was talking about Dirty's knowledge of what went on over there.

    Sensitive much?

    Off course he did & you just did it again ...You knucklehead
    Nope.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    InHiding80 said:

    BS44325 said:

    josevolution said:

    BS44325 said:

    Musky never accused any of you "knuckleheads" of not supporting the troops. Go back and read it. He was talking about Dirty's knowledge of what went on over there.

    Sensitive much?

    Off course he did & you just did it again ...You knucklehead
    Nope.
    "I'm rubber you're glue/No,you/I know you are but what am I?" - The true sign of someone who lost the debate but won't admit it.
    As per Brian I am correct. Sorry champ.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    brianlux said:

    It was obviously inferred and we all know that but, no, not specifically stated as such. No use arguing the point though, is there?

    Probably not but if we can't even agree on the contents of four clear as day sentences how can we agree on anything else? Musky stated that he was proud of what the troops did over there and that some of you were not. This is not complicated. Most have you have been arguing that you are not proud of the invasion, you are not proud of what our military did, that the US did more harm then good. This doesn't mean you don't support the troops and no one suggested otherwise. It is just another strawman argument built up so that people can play the victim card.
  • Aafke
    Aafke Posts: 1,219
    edited May 2015
    BS44325 said:

    InHiding80 said:

    BS44325 said:

    josevolution said:

    BS44325 said:

    Musky never accused any of you "knuckleheads" of not supporting the troops. Go back and read it. He was talking about Dirty's knowledge of what went on over there.

    Sensitive much?

    Off course he did & you just did it again ...You knucklehead
    Nope.
    "I'm rubber you're glue/No,you/I know you are but what am I?" - The true sign of someone who lost the debate but won't admit it.
    As per Brian I am correct. Sorry champ.
    BS, this is pathetic, first of all, everything in this debate is based on second hand information... so it's all about perspective. You interpretation of the facts is very different from the interpretation of most of us, around here! That's fine with me, you have the right to see it your way, as well as others have the right to see it their way... But calling yourself a winner, and calling names to win the argument, is in my opinion not winning an argument, it is childish behavior, and bullying, How old are you?

    First of all, Dirty Frank, thank you for your service. But I suppose your a Vet, that served a while ago. may I ask when you served, because it gives me a clue how resent your contribution is, regarding to the thankfulness of the Iraqi people. I do believe some of them were very thankful, but i do doubt if all of them were, and i doubt, in the light of current events if the people who were thankful back in the days are still thankful. I strongly believe the invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with helping the Iraqi people, although GWB wants us to believe that.

    I strongly believe this war was started by GWB, because he lost face during 9/11 and the attack on Afganistan, because, Osama bin Laden wasn't captured as soon as he had hoped. Because of all his mistakes during this period, GWB had lost the faith of his people, and taking out an old enemy, which his father during his time in the white house was unable to take out, would be a great idea. The Muslim world became a great enemy after 9/11 and the frustration of not being able to take out ObL, was felt in all Western society. So what was a better way than taking out this old Muslim enemy? Saddam was only a way for GWB to once again get back the trust of his country, and make some profit on the side.... nothing more and nothing less!

    You mentioned playing the victim card... In my opinion, it is you, who is playing this card!
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Aafke said:

    BS44325 said:

    InHiding80 said:

    BS44325 said:

    josevolution said:

    BS44325 said:

    Musky never accused any of you "knuckleheads" of not supporting the troops. Go back and read it. He was talking about Dirty's knowledge of what went on over there.

    Sensitive much?

    Off course he did & you just did it again ...You knucklehead
    Nope.
    "I'm rubber you're glue/No,you/I know you are but what am I?" - The true sign of someone who lost the debate but won't admit it.
    As per Brian I am correct. Sorry champ.
    BS, this is pathetic, first of all, everything in this debate is based on second hand information... so it's all about perspective. You interpretation of the facts is very different from the interpretation of most of us, around here! That's fine with me, you have the right to see it your way, as well as others have the right to see it their way... But calling yourself a winner, and calling names to win the argument, is in my opinion not winning an argument, it is childish behavior, and bullying, How old are you?

    First of all, Dirty Frank, thank you for your service. But I suppose your a Vet, that served a while ago. may I ask when you served, because it gives me a clue how resent your contribution is, regarding to the thankfulness of the Iraqi people. I do believe some of them were very thankful, but i do doubt if all of them were, and i doubt, in the light of current events if the people who were thankful back in the days are still thankful. I strongly believe the invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with helping the Iraqi people, although GWB wants us to believe that.

    I strongly believe this war was started by GWB, because he lost face during 9/11 and the attack on Afganistan, because, Osama bin Laden wasn't captured as soon as he had hoped. Because of all his mistakes during this period, GWB had lost the faith of his people, and taking out an old enemy, which his father during his time in the white house was unable to take out, would be a great idea. The Muslim world became a great enemy after 9/11 and the frustration of not being able to take out ObL, was felt in all Western society. So what was a better way than taking out this old Muslim enemy? Saddam was only a way for GWB to once again get back the trust of his country, and make some profit on the side.... nothing more and nothing less!

    You mentioned playing the victim card... In my opinion, it is you, who is playing this card!
    I am sorry aafke but there is only one interpretation of muskydan's post and I am correct. That is what we are talking about here. Too many of you post without actually following the flow of the actual arguments being made. I have called nobody a name so I will not accept your baseless charge.

    Now as far as your theory on why GWB invaded Iraq...it is just plainly illogical psychobabble. I apologize in advance if you consider that response to be of the bullying variety.
  • Aafke
    Aafke Posts: 1,219
    edited May 2015
    As I stated before... You interpretation of the facts is very different from the interpretation of mine! That's fine with me, you have the right to see it your way, as well as I have the right to see it my way... In my opinion and yes, i have read all the post a couple of times, thank you very much... I might not be in the same flow as you are, and i probable never will be. Muskydan gave an opinion and all opinions are argumentative. See it as you wanna see it...
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    It totally blows my mind that we're having this discussion at all. We have not been justifiably involved in any wars in at least the last 70 years.

    As for Musky's statement, let's hear from the man who wrote it. Tell us about it, Musky.
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  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    brianlux said:

    It totally blows my mind that we're having this discussion at all. We have not been justifiably involved in any wars in at least the last 70 years.

    As for Musky's statement, let's hear from the man who wrote it. Tell us about it, Musky.

    I sure will Bri, however I have much more important things to attend 2 like watching my Blackhawks. Go Hawks and Godbless every Vet on this glorious Menorial Day Weekend. Be safe everyone
  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    muskydan said:

    brianlux said:

    It totally blows my mind that we're having this discussion at all. We have not been justifiably involved in any wars in at least the last 70 years.

    As for Musky's statement, let's hear from the man who wrote it. Tell us about it, Musky.

    I sure will Bri, however I have much more important things to attend 2 like watching my Blackhawks. Go Hawks and Godbless every Vet on this glorious Menorial Day Weekend. Be safe everyone
    As a Ducks fan, I don't approve of your post.
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    brianlux said:

    It totally blows my mind that we're having this discussion at all. We have not been justifiably involved in any wars in at least the last 70 years.

    As for Musky's statement, let's hear from the man who wrote it. Tell us about it, Musky.

    Afghanistan wasn't justifiable? Or the first gulf war?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Last-12-Exit said:

    brianlux said:

    It totally blows my mind that we're having this discussion at all. We have not been justifiably involved in any wars in at least the last 70 years.

    As for Musky's statement, let's hear from the man who wrote it. Tell us about it, Musky.

    Afghanistan wasn't justifiable? Or the first gulf war?
    No, I do not believe resource wars are justifiable.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    muskydan said:

    brianlux said:

    It totally blows my mind that we're having this discussion at all. We have not been justifiably involved in any wars in at least the last 70 years.

    As for Musky's statement, let's hear from the man who wrote it. Tell us about it, Musky.

    I sure will Bri, however I have much more important things to attend 2 like watching my Blackhawks. Go Hawks and Godbless every Vet on this glorious Menorial Day Weekend. Be safe everyone
    I was thrilled to see a Black-headed Grosbeak outside my window this morning so I guess you could say that's a win of sorts for Team Nature.

    Think Peace this weekend, everyone. And yes, be safe.

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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    brianlux said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    brianlux said:

    It totally blows my mind that we're having this discussion at all. We have not been justifiably involved in any wars in at least the last 70 years.

    As for Musky's statement, let's hear from the man who wrote it. Tell us about it, Musky.

    Afghanistan wasn't justifiable? Or the first gulf war?
    No, I do not believe resource wars are justifiable.

    Maybe the first gulf war. But what resources do Afghanistan have? A little oil? I was then and still think Afghanistan was justified.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Last-12-Exit said:

    brianlux said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    brianlux said:

    It totally blows my mind that we're having this discussion at all. We have not been justifiably involved in any wars in at least the last 70 years.

    As for Musky's statement, let's hear from the man who wrote it. Tell us about it, Musky.

    Afghanistan wasn't justifiable? Or the first gulf war?
    No, I do not believe resource wars are justifiable.

    Maybe the first gulf war. But what resources do Afghanistan have? A little oil? I was then and still think Afghanistan was justified.
    Mining, big time. Gold, copper, lithium, uranium, iron ore, cobalt, natural gas and, yes oil.

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