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  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    Welcome home, old fella!

    Nice.  How does it sound?  What year is that?
    welcome to the Sansui family. I loves mine. I paired mine with some reference Klipse speakers.

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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,159
    I'm restoring a Dual 1209 for a friend. It will be paired with a Marantz 2226b and a pair of old KLH bookshelves.

    That should make for a nice little system for a small room. 

    Pics when it's done 
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    dudeman said:
    I'm restoring a Dual 1209 for a friend. It will be paired with a Marantz 2226b and a pair of old KLH bookshelves.

    That should make for a nice little system for a small room. 

    Pics when it's done 
    That will be a nice little system.  Is the Marantz recapped or still original?  
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,159
    Serviced a few years ago. (Not by me.) My friend says they did a tuner alignment, recapped the power supply and replaced transistors. Not sure if he means the outputs or not.

    Either way, it sounds really good. It also looks brand new. Super clean and a good candidate for a full resto down the road. 
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    dudeman said:
    Serviced a few years ago. (Not by me.) My friend says they did a tuner alignment, recapped the power supply and replaced transistors. Not sure if he means the outputs or not.

    Either way, it sounds really good. It also looks brand new. Super clean and a good candidate for a full resto down the road. 
    Hey have you ever stripped the vinyl off the metal case of a Marantz?  I don't have a wood case for mine so I'm at a cross roads.  Right now, it's in a cabinet, but later this year it will be on a cabinet, so the optics will matter more.  I'm debating stripping it down to the metal and then possibly powdercoating it or painting myself.  My other option is doing an aftermarket wood cabinet OR getting one of these (which is overprice, but nice looking).  https://www.ebay.com/itm/Marantz-Wood-case-WC-22-R-Holzkiste-Cabinet-Case-2230-2235-2245-2270-2275-BLACK/252467950196?hash=item3ac8433274:g:6sQAAOSw-FZXjqlz
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,159
    I haven't done it myself but I have seen where others have. I'd be looking at chemicals like Goof Off if I were to attempt it. Sanding and peeling that case would suck.

    Those German cases are beautiful too.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • mrussel1 said:
    dudeman said:
    Serviced a few years ago. (Not by me.) My friend says they did a tuner alignment, recapped the power supply and replaced transistors. Not sure if he means the outputs or not.

    Either way, it sounds really good. It also looks brand new. Super clean and a good candidate for a full resto down the road. 
    Hey have you ever stripped the vinyl off the metal case of a Marantz?  I don't have a wood case for mine so I'm at a cross roads.  Right now, it's in a cabinet, but later this year it will be on a cabinet, so the optics will matter more.  I'm debating stripping it down to the metal and then possibly powdercoating it or painting myself.  My other option is doing an aftermarket wood cabinet OR getting one of these (which is overprice, but nice looking).  https://www.ebay.com/itm/Marantz-Wood-case-WC-22-R-Holzkiste-Cabinet-Case-2230-2235-2245-2270-2275-BLACK/252467950196?hash=item3ac8433274:g:6sQAAOSw-FZXjqlzThe piano black is really nice but if I was doing this project I think I would go for the walnut in the other E Bay listing
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mrussel1 said:
    dudeman said:
    Serviced a few years ago. (Not by me.) My friend says they did a tuner alignment, recapped the power supply and replaced transistors. Not sure if he means the outputs or not.

    Either way, it sounds really good. It also looks brand new. Super clean and a good candidate for a full resto down the road. 
    Hey have you ever stripped the vinyl off the metal case of a Marantz?  I don't have a wood case for mine so I'm at a cross roads.  Right now, it's in a cabinet, but later this year it will be on a cabinet, so the optics will matter more.  I'm debating stripping it down to the metal and then possibly powdercoating it or painting myself.  My other option is doing an aftermarket wood cabinet OR getting one of these (which is overprice, but nice looking).  https://www.ebay.com/itm/Marantz-Wood-case-WC-22-R-Holzkiste-Cabinet-Case-2230-2235-2245-2270-2275-BLACK/252467950196?hash=item3ac8433274:g:6sQAAOSw-FZXjqlzThe piano black is really nice but if I was doing this project I think I would go for the walnut in the other E Bay listing
    I have a black face Marantz, so I feel like the piano would go a bit better.  The walnut is really nice though.  They are all wildly expensive though.  Costs as much as a unit that hasn't been restored.  
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,159
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dudeman said:
    Serviced a few years ago. (Not by me.) My friend says they did a tuner alignment, recapped the power supply and replaced transistors. Not sure if he means the outputs or not.

    Either way, it sounds really good. It also looks brand new. Super clean and a good candidate for a full resto down the road. 
    Hey have you ever stripped the vinyl off the metal case of a Marantz?  I don't have a wood case for mine so I'm at a cross roads.  Right now, it's in a cabinet, but later this year it will be on a cabinet, so the optics will matter more.  I'm debating stripping it down to the metal and then possibly powdercoating it or painting myself.  My other option is doing an aftermarket wood cabinet OR getting one of these (which is overprice, but nice looking).  https://www.ebay.com/itm/Marantz-Wood-case-WC-22-R-Holzkiste-Cabinet-Case-2230-2235-2245-2270-2275-BLACK/252467950196?hash=item3ac8433274:g:6sQAAOSw-FZXjqlzThe piano black is really nice but if I was doing this project I think I would go for the walnut in the other E Bay listing
    I have a black face Marantz, so I feel like the piano would go a bit better.  The walnut is really nice though.  They are all wildly expensive though.  Costs as much as a unit that hasn't been restored.  
    I've thought about that too. You will likely never see a return on the investment other than pride of ownership. They are beautiful though. 

    Some of the cases I have seen stripped and painted look amazing. As always, good prep work shows in the finished product. 

    If I were in your shoes, I'd strip and paint the metal case first. You can always get a better one later.

    Also, and I'm sure you know this, you'll want to remove the metal case if you're using a wooden one instead. Those things heat up quickly with an additional layer of material on them.

    Good luck with whatever you decide. Please post pics when you're done!
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    dudeman said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dudeman said:
    Serviced a few years ago. (Not by me.) My friend says they did a tuner alignment, recapped the power supply and replaced transistors. Not sure if he means the outputs or not.

    Either way, it sounds really good. It also looks brand new. Super clean and a good candidate for a full resto down the road. 
    Hey have you ever stripped the vinyl off the metal case of a Marantz?  I don't have a wood case for mine so I'm at a cross roads.  Right now, it's in a cabinet, but later this year it will be on a cabinet, so the optics will matter more.  I'm debating stripping it down to the metal and then possibly powdercoating it or painting myself.  My other option is doing an aftermarket wood cabinet OR getting one of these (which is overprice, but nice looking).  https://www.ebay.com/itm/Marantz-Wood-case-WC-22-R-Holzkiste-Cabinet-Case-2230-2235-2245-2270-2275-BLACK/252467950196?hash=item3ac8433274:g:6sQAAOSw-FZXjqlzThe piano black is really nice but if I was doing this project I think I would go for the walnut in the other E Bay listing
    I have a black face Marantz, so I feel like the piano would go a bit better.  The walnut is really nice though.  They are all wildly expensive though.  Costs as much as a unit that hasn't been restored.  
    I've thought about that too. You will likely never see a return on the investment other than pride of ownership. They are beautiful though. 

    Some of the cases I have seen stripped and painted look amazing. As always, good prep work shows in the finished product. 

    If I were in your shoes, I'd strip and paint the metal case first. You can always get a better one later.

    Also, and I'm sure you know this, you'll want to remove the metal case if you're using a wooden one instead. Those things heat up quickly with an additional layer of material on them.

    Good luck with whatever you decide. Please post pics when you're done!
    You're right, the investment is pretty low on stripping and painting.  And if you F it up, well go with the piano or walnut.  I think I could strip it with some heavy duty stripping and a heat gun.  The bigger question is whether to try and paint it myself or take it to a body shop.  That would probably run a hundred bucks to powder coat or paint it. 
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,159
    Good old RustOleum is what I use for that kind of thing. It's pretty forgiving to work with.

    Prime first, then a couple light coats of Gloss Black (or blue to match the dial lights). Just be careful to not hold the can too close.

    Same thing applies as before, if you don't like the result, you can have it professionally done.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    dudeman said:
    Good old RustOleum is what I use for that kind of thing. It's pretty forgiving to work with.

    Prime first, then a couple light coats of Gloss Black (or blue to match the dial lights). Just be careful to not hold the can too close.

    Same thing applies as before, if you don't like the result, you can have it professionally done.
    So you've done this?  Did you sand (like with steel wool 000) it at all before applying the primer to give it a little bit of surface to stick?  

    I do my own framing for prints and I use rustoleum to paint the frames at times.  Comes out great.  
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,159
    mrussel1 said:
    dudeman said:
    Good old RustOleum is what I use for that kind of thing. It's pretty forgiving to work with.

    Prime first, then a couple light coats of Gloss Black (or blue to match the dial lights). Just be careful to not hold the can too close.

    Same thing applies as before, if you don't like the result, you can have it professionally done.
    So you've done this?  Did you sand (like with steel wool 000) it at all before applying the primer to give it a little bit of surface to stick?  

    I do my own framing for prints and I use rustoleum to paint the frames at times.  Comes out great.  
    I haven't done a receiver but I have painted a lot of metal enclosures for electronics, mostly effects pedals and project boxes for amp builds. 

    Definitely sand the surface before priming but I have had better luck and less clean up by using green Scotch Brite pads.

    I always stay away from steel wool for electronic equipment since the little fibers are hard to see and I'm not confident that I could get all of them before reassembly. Don't want that stuff getting on the boards.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    dudeman said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dudeman said:
    Good old RustOleum is what I use for that kind of thing. It's pretty forgiving to work with.

    Prime first, then a couple light coats of Gloss Black (or blue to match the dial lights). Just be careful to not hold the can too close.

    Same thing applies as before, if you don't like the result, you can have it professionally done.
    So you've done this?  Did you sand (like with steel wool 000) it at all before applying the primer to give it a little bit of surface to stick?  

    I do my own framing for prints and I use rustoleum to paint the frames at times.  Comes out great.  
    I haven't done a receiver but I have painted a lot of metal enclosures for electronics, mostly effects pedals and project boxes for amp builds. 

    Definitely sand the surface before priming but I have had better luck and less clean up by using green Scotch Brite pads.

    I always stay away from steel wool for electronic equipment since the little fibers are hard to see and I'm not confident that I could get all of them before reassembly. Don't want that stuff getting on the boards.
    That's a good point... thanks for the tip.  I have refinished lots of furniture, so steel wool is essential, followed by tack cloth.  I can see how that could be an issue on the electronics.  
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,159
    Guitars too. That stuff gets on pickups and it's never coming off.
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,159
    Got this back together today:
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,159

    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Nice work.  What did you do to it?
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,159
    Disassemble, degrease, clean, reassemble and relube so far. This one was made in 1970 and it appeared to have the original lubricant that turned into a varnish-like substance on everything. 

    All of the controls and the tonearm were seized in place. Mechanical functions are working again.

    Checking wiring, motor and contacts next. The hard part is done, at least.

    All of those levers, cams and gears are incredibly precise. They require impeccable fit in order for everything to work properly. Tedious couple of days with this one.

    I can't help but marvel at the engineering and manufacturing prowess that went into these old decks. 
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Looks beautiful.