Baltimore

badbrains

muskydan said:

Indifference71 said:

callen said:

This thread a perfect example of whites living their lucky ass lives and looking down at the poor and weak and getting the superiority bug.

Again you aren't special. You aren't smarter. Your definitely not more aware or enlightened. Your just lucky.

Rather than looking at things and saying hmmm what the FK and why and how to change things you sit behind your keyboards in your safe little white neighborhoods and stroke yourselves

Think of the human condition along with some history of human behavior, and whites as well, and you will not only understand "Baltimore" but maybe think what we can do as humans to prevent situations such as this.

But alas stroking ones insecurities is easier and I expect from observing human behavior that the stroking and stroking each other will continue. Just get your hanky and windex before hand.

Wow. Just wow.

that was simply precious

Awesome! Post of the day

callen

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

To make it clear, I have no problem with the subject of the thread. It's the comments within it that are so over the top with outrage that I find interesting.

I find the ones justifying the riot infinitely more interesting.

Who's justifying Thirty.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

callen said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

To make it clear, I have no problem with the subject of the thread. It's the comments within it that are so over the top with outrage that I find interesting.

I find the ones justifying the riot infinitely more interesting.

Who's justifying Thirty.

You for one. Waving your finger at everyone. Are you serious?

Thirty Bills Unpaid

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

To make it clear, I have no problem with the subject of the thread. It's the comments within it that are so over the top with outrage that I find interesting.

I find the ones justifying the riot infinitely more interesting.

Justifying and empathizing are completely different things.

I understand that.

Let's not be ultra selective with whom we choose to 'empathize' with then. We can explain every behavior, but doing so doesn't make the behavior any less deplorable when the behavior is deplorable. For the people lashing out at others outraged over rioting in Baltimore, be consistent: also lash out at people who express outrage for, say, the next pedophile to creep on to the MT- he was abused as a child.

I don't see people who loot and burn property on the same plain as child rapists.

No. The offence of rioting is definitely more palatable.

Its definitely easier to get behind a bunch of rioters than it is a pedophile. You gotta draw the line somewhere.

dignin

Dirtie_Frank said:

dignin said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

Best video of all from yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q16QY7xtCnw

Great Mother!!!

Yeah, mother of the year here. All mothers should punch their sons in the face repeatedly. Has a real Jerry Springer quality to it.

I believe she is doing the right thing. Maybe if there were more parents involved in Baltimore there would be less rioting?

More parents beating their children would equal less rioting? Seems counter intuitive to me.

I do not believe punching your child in the face is the right thing to do.

That video is awful.

dignin

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

To make it clear, I have no problem with the subject of the thread. It's the comments within it that are so over the top with outrage that I find interesting.

I find the ones justifying the riot infinitely more interesting.

Justifying and empathizing are completely different things.

I understand that.

Let's not be ultra selective with whom we choose to 'empathize' with then. We can explain every behavior, but doing so doesn't make the behavior any less deplorable when the behavior is deplorable. For the people lashing out at others outraged over rioting in Baltimore, be consistent: also lash out at people who express outrage for, say, the next pedophile to creep on to the MT- he was abused as a child.

I don't see people who loot and burn property on the same plain as child rapists.

No. The offence of rioting is definitely more palatable.

Its definitely easier to get behind a bunch of rioters than it is a pedophile. You gotta draw the line somewhere.

No one is getting behind anybody. You are way out on a limb thirty, but carry on.

riotgrl

I think it is natural (and from what I am seeing in this and many discussions on this board) to try to understand why things happen. We are all just coming from a different place of understanding.

Perhaps this need to loot and destroy is a fuck you to the power structure that leaves certain groups out? When you have little social, political, or economic power then protecting it or trying to preserve it is completely unimportant to the people who are looting. Perhaps they see the police, the businesses, the homes as symbolic of things they don't have, can never have. It doesn't justify it but understanding why people do things might lead to change.

Cliffy6745

It is sad that the riots are taking away from the conversation that a kid was likely murdered by police. No way you can claim self defense on this one.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

To make it clear, I have no problem with the subject of the thread. It's the comments within it that are so over the top with outrage that I find interesting.

I find the ones justifying the riot infinitely more interesting.

Justifying and empathizing are completely different things.

I understand that.

Let's not be ultra selective with whom we choose to 'empathize' with then. We can explain every behavior, but doing so doesn't make the behavior any less deplorable when the behavior is deplorable. For the people lashing out at others outraged over rioting in Baltimore, be consistent: also lash out at people who express outrage for, say, the next pedophile to creep on to the MT- he was abused as a child.

I don't see people who loot and burn property on the same plain as child rapists.

No. The offence of rioting is definitely more palatable.

Its definitely easier to get behind a bunch of rioters than it is a pedophile. You gotta draw the line somewhere.

No one is getting behind anybody. You are way out on a limb thirty, but carry on.

Far from that.

I am reading several- including some from you- posts that, whether you care to admit it or not, seek to rationalize poor behavior (and admonish others in the process).

I come from the mindset where there is no justification for poor behavior. Of course I can understand why some people or communities might act as they do, but that still doesn't excuse brutal behaviour. Find another way.

I know- easier said than done.

rgambs

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

To make it clear, I have no problem with the subject of the thread. It's the comments within it that are so over the top with outrage that I find interesting.

I find the ones justifying the riot infinitely more interesting.

Justifying and empathizing are completely different things.

I understand that.

Let's not be ultra selective with whom we choose to 'empathize' with then. We can explain every behavior, but doing so doesn't make the behavior any less deplorable when the behavior is deplorable. For the people lashing out at others outraged over rioting in Baltimore, be consistent: also lash out at people who express outrage for, say, the next pedophile to creep on to the MT- he was abused as a child.

I don't see people who loot and burn property on the same plain as child rapists.

No. The offence of rioting is definitely more palatable.

Its definitely easier to get behind a bunch of rioters than it is a pedophile. You gotta draw the line somewhere.

No one is getting behind anybody. You are way out on a limb thirty, but carry on.

Far from that.

I am reading several- including some from you- posts that, whether you care to admit it or not, seek to rationalize poor behavior (and admonish others in the process).

I come from the mindset where there is no justification for poor behavior. Of course I can understand why some people or communities might act as they do, but that still doesn't excuse brutal behaviour. Find another way.

I know- easier said than done.

Again, you are reading them that way because it is the way you choose to. The same issue has happened in other threads.
Seeking to understand is not excusing.

JimmyV

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

To make it clear, I have no problem with the subject of the thread. It's the comments within it that are so over the top with outrage that I find interesting.

I find the ones justifying the riot infinitely more interesting.

Justifying and empathizing are completely different things.

I understand that.

Let's not be ultra selective with whom we choose to 'empathize' with then. We can explain every behavior, but doing so doesn't make the behavior any less deplorable when the behavior is deplorable. For the people lashing out at others outraged over rioting in Baltimore, be consistent: also lash out at people who express outrage for, say, the next pedophile to creep on to the MT- he was abused as a child.

I don't see people who loot and burn property on the same plain as child rapists.

No. The offence of rioting is definitely more palatable.

Its definitely easier to get behind a bunch of rioters than it is a pedophile. You gotta draw the line somewhere.

No one is getting behind anybody. You are way out on a limb thirty, but carry on.

Far from that.

I am reading several- including some from you- posts that, whether you care to admit it or not, seek to rationalize poor behavior (and admonish others in the process).

I come from the mindset where there is no justification for poor behavior. Of course I can understand why some people or communities might act as they do, but that still doesn't excuse brutal behaviour. Find another way.

I know- easier said than done.

Again, you are reading them that way because it is the way you choose to. The same issue has happened in other threads.
Seeking to understand is not excusing.

If posts are being misread/misinterpreted then some responsibility falls on the author, too. With all due respect, this does read like you are excusing:

rgambs said:

It's not hard to understand if you just step outside of your own experience. If you feel like authority has no respect for you, why would you have respect for authority?

Dirtie_Frank

dignin said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

dignin said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

Best video of all from yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q16QY7xtCnw

Great Mother!!!

Yeah, mother of the year here. All mothers should punch their sons in the face repeatedly. Has a real Jerry Springer quality to it.

I believe she is doing the right thing. Maybe if there were more parents involved in Baltimore there would be less rioting?

More parents beating their children would equal less rioting? Seems counter intuitive to me.

I do not believe punching your child in the face is the right thing to do.

That video is awful.

How about a little more discipline in today's youth and a little bit more respect. She caught her son throwing rocks at police. By the way she smacked him upside the head it was not like she was throwing Mike Tyson knock out punches.

JimmyV

If we don't want to condone punching a child, fine, but I do hope any parent who found their child throwing rocks at police would do more than just give them a timeout.

Dirtie_Frank

dignin said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

dignin said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

Best video of all from yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q16QY7xtCnw

Great Mother!!!

Yeah, mother of the year here. All mothers should punch their sons in the face repeatedly. Has a real Jerry Springer quality to it.

I believe she is doing the right thing. Maybe if there were more parents involved in Baltimore there would be less rioting?

More parents beating their children would equal less rioting? Seems counter intuitive to me.

I do not believe punching your child in the face is the right thing to do.

That video is awful.

I also meant maybe it there were more parents involved with their children's life there would be less rioting going on, but maybe that is just my white privilege getting the best of me

Cliffy6745

Dirtie_Frank said:

dignin said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

dignin said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

Best video of all from yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q16QY7xtCnw

Great Mother!!!

Yeah, mother of the year here. All mothers should punch their sons in the face repeatedly. Has a real Jerry Springer quality to it.

I believe she is doing the right thing. Maybe if there were more parents involved in Baltimore there would be less rioting?

More parents beating their children would equal less rioting? Seems counter intuitive to me.

I do not believe punching your child in the face is the right thing to do.

That video is awful.

I also meant maybe it there were more parents involved with their children's life there would be less rioting going on, but maybe that is just my white privilege getting the best of me

Maybe better parenting would also teach some cops that it isn't okay to murder handcuffed civilians.

The rioting is wrong and they are fucking up what should be a much bigger conversation

callen

JimmyV said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

To make it clear, I have no problem with the subject of the thread. It's the comments within it that are so over the top with outrage that I find interesting.

I find the ones justifying the riot infinitely more interesting.

Justifying and empathizing are completely different things.

I understand that.

Let's not be ultra selective with whom we choose to 'empathize' with then. We can explain every behavior, but doing so doesn't make the behavior any less deplorable when the behavior is deplorable. For the people lashing out at others outraged over rioting in Baltimore, be consistent: also lash out at people who express outrage for, say, the next pedophile to creep on to the MT- he was abused as a child.

I don't see people who loot and burn property on the same plain as child rapists.

No. The offence of rioting is definitely more palatable.

Its definitely easier to get behind a bunch of rioters than it is a pedophile. You gotta draw the line somewhere.

No one is getting behind anybody. You are way out on a limb thirty, but carry on.

Far from that.

I am reading several- including some from you- posts that, whether you care to admit it or not, seek to rationalize poor behavior (and admonish others in the process).

I come from the mindset where there is no justification for poor behavior. Of course I can understand why some people or communities might act as they do, but that still doesn't excuse brutal behaviour. Find another way.

I know- easier said than done.

Again, you are reading them that way because it is the way you choose to. The same issue has happened in other threads.
Seeking to understand is not excusing.

If posts are being misread/misinterpreted then some responsibility falls on the author, too. With all due respect, this does read like you are excusing:

rgambs said:

It's not hard to understand if you just step outside of your own experience. If you feel like authority has no respect for you, why would you have respect for authority?

Thought my post was pretty clear. May not be comfortable for some but good.

Cliffy6745

I don't understand what there is to argue about this.

JimmyV

callen said:

JimmyV said:

rgambs said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

dignin said:

To make it clear, I have no problem with the subject of the thread. It's the comments within it that are so over the top with outrage that I find interesting.

I find the ones justifying the riot infinitely more interesting.

Justifying and empathizing are completely different things.

I understand that.

Let's not be ultra selective with whom we choose to 'empathize' with then. We can explain every behavior, but doing so doesn't make the behavior any less deplorable when the behavior is deplorable. For the people lashing out at others outraged over rioting in Baltimore, be consistent: also lash out at people who express outrage for, say, the next pedophile to creep on to the MT- he was abused as a child.

I don't see people who loot and burn property on the same plain as child rapists.

No. The offence of rioting is definitely more palatable.

Its definitely easier to get behind a bunch of rioters than it is a pedophile. You gotta draw the line somewhere.

No one is getting behind anybody. You are way out on a limb thirty, but carry on.

Far from that.

I am reading several- including some from you- posts that, whether you care to admit it or not, seek to rationalize poor behavior (and admonish others in the process).

I come from the mindset where there is no justification for poor behavior. Of course I can understand why some people or communities might act as they do, but that still doesn't excuse brutal behaviour. Find another way.

I know- easier said than done.

Again, you are reading them that way because it is the way you choose to. The same issue has happened in other threads.
Seeking to understand is not excusing.

If posts are being misread/misinterpreted then some responsibility falls on the author, too. With all due respect, this does read like you are excusing:

rgambs said:

It's not hard to understand if you just step outside of your own experience. If you feel like authority has no respect for you, why would you have respect for authority?

Thought my post was pretty clear. May not be comfortable for some but good.

Oh, your posts have been pretty clear.

JimmyV

"The Mayor's office said 202 arrests were made overnight, and that the city's fire department dealt with fires in 144 vehicles and 15 buildings."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-baltimore-riots-what-we-know-20150428-story.html

Last-12-Exit

Cliffy6745 said:

It is sad that the riots are taking away from the conversation that a kid was likely murdered by police. No way you can claim self defense on this one.

You are correct. Yet the criminals who chose to riot made it pretty easy to forget what they were supposed to be out there protesting.

And the best thing to come out of that shit last night was the one mother that cared enough to go out there and discipline her child for breaking the law and embarrassing her. Good for her. Better her slap her kid upside the head a couple of times than him help burn down buildings. I can't believe some of you here talk against that. It wasn't an 8 year old kid. It was a teenager. He deserved way worse than a couple of slaps.