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  • 23scidoo said:
    LBCeddie said:
    thanks for the 'advice'. LOL
    My pleasure, hopefully you feel better already.  Keep your head up Skipper, everything will be fine.  Turn off the news.
    Waste of time..
    you're obsessed. 
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    LBCeddie said:
    thanks for the 'advice'. LOL
    My pleasure, hopefully you feel better already.  Keep your head up Skipper, everything will be fine.  Turn off the news.
    get a life and stop trolling. I don't watch the news. My life is very enjoyable. But I don't choose to keep my head in the sand. 
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  • LBCeddie said:
    thanks for the 'advice'. LOL
    My pleasure, hopefully you feel better already.  Keep your head up Skipper, everything will be fine.  Turn off the news.
    "genocidal maniac tells others to keep their head up and enjoy life"
    new album "Cigarettes" out Spring 2025!

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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,255
    edited November 2023
    23scidoo said:
    LBCeddie said:
    thanks for the 'advice'. LOL
    My pleasure, hopefully you feel better already.  Keep your head up Skipper, everything will be fine.  Turn off the news.
    Waste of time..
    you're obsessed. 
    Me??..hahahahahaha..you don't have a mirror in your house??..
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  • 23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    LBCeddie said:
    thanks for the 'advice'. LOL
    My pleasure, hopefully you feel better already.  Keep your head up Skipper, everything will be fine.  Turn off the news.
    Waste of time..
    you're obsessed. 
    Me??..hahahahahaha..you don't have a mirror in your house??..
    aligning yourself with a guy who advocates for double genocide is pretty on brand. 
    new album "Cigarettes" out Spring 2025!

    www.headstonesband.com




  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,255
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    LBCeddie said:
    thanks for the 'advice'. LOL
    My pleasure, hopefully you feel better already.  Keep your head up Skipper, everything will be fine.  Turn off the news.
    Waste of time..
    you're obsessed. 
    Me??..hahahahahaha..you don't have a mirror in your house??..
    aligning yourself with a guy who advocates for double genocide is pretty on brand. 
    Never argue with someone whos TV is bigger than their bookshelf Dr  George C Fraser - iFunny
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    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    LBCeddie said:
    thanks for the 'advice'. LOL
    My pleasure, hopefully you feel better already.  Keep your head up Skipper, everything will be fine.  Turn off the news.
    Waste of time..
    you're obsessed. 
    Me??..hahahahahaha..you don't have a mirror in your house??..
    aligning yourself with a guy who advocates for double genocide is pretty on brand. 
    Who is advocating for double genocide?  I missed that one?
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • For more than a month now, the war in Gaza has been dividing the world, with the deepening split aggravated by intense emotions. Two narratives, Palestinian and Israeli, have pitted demonstrators, media outlets, religions, peoples and regions against each other. In the process, the moral clarity that we should and must share about basic human values has turned into moral confusion.

    So let’s start with some basic reality. The fact is that the thousands of victims across Israel, Gaza and the West Bank have been overwhelmingly civilians. On Oct. 7, Israel was wounded and deeply traumatized by the killings of more than 1,000 Israelis, including women and children, by Hamas. And since then, more than 11,000 Palestinians have been killed by the indiscriminate Israeli shelling of Gaza. Thousands of children lie dead in the rubble of Gaza’s destroyed houses, schools and hospitals. In the name of our common humanity, how can such brutal acts and murders be accepted?

    Today’s human suffering and global tensions urge us to adhere to the norms of humanity before we reach a moral breaking point for all.

    Leaders everywhere have the responsibility to face the full reality of this crisis, as ugly as it is. Only by anchoring ourselves to the concrete facts that have brought us to this point will we be able to change the increasingly dangerous direction of our world.

    It begins by recognizing our duty not only to enforce humanitarian intervention and put an end to this atrocious war but also to admit that the current path is not a path to victory for anyone — and most definitely not a path guided by moral clarity.

    I cannot but believe that Palestinians and Israelis want the same things. They are not monsters; they do not cherish misery and death. Like Israelis, Palestinians have a right to lives of dignity, security and respect, in an independent, sovereign and viable state.

    Yet for almost 20 years, Israel’s unilateral actions have underminedthe peace process and flouted the Oslo accords, which promised the two-state solution of peace and security for both sides. Instead, step by step, and against international law, the Palestinian territories have been divided into small, disconnected enclaves. Israel has tripled its “settlements” on land that the accords recognized would be part of the Palestinian state. Jerusalemites have been pushed out of their homes. Muslim and Christian holy sites have been attacked and worshipers harassed. And now, 60 percent of Gaza’s besieged population of 2.3 million Palestinians has been displaced.

    Gazan families being bombed out of their homes are victims of this collective punishment, with no place to take shelter. No hospital, no school and no U.N. building is safe any longer. And make no mistake, Gazans will not abandon their homes because a leaflet or a text message tells them to do so. They know that leaving means losing hope, dignity and the chance to go back to their land: They have seen it happen to waves and waves of their fellow Palestinians and to their ancestors throughout the past seven decades of this conflict.

    Indeed, Israel’s “exit” from Gaza 18 years ago was not a contribution to the two-state solution but a preemption of any such solution. It produced a permanent division that denied a Palestinian state by denying a single Palestinian partner.

    An Israeli leadership that is unwilling to take the path of peace on the basis of the two-state solution will not be able to provide its people the security they need.

    Israelis cannot continue their lives as usual, expecting security solutions alone to ensure their safety, while Palestinians live in misery and injustice. With no political horizon, the promise of a peaceful future will evade both Israelis and Palestinians.

    Are there any realistic alternatives to a two-state solution? It is hard to imagine any. A one-state solution would force Israel’s identity to accommodate competing national identities. A no-state solution would deny Palestinian rights and dignity.

    If the status quo continues, the days ahead will be driven by an ongoing war of narratives over who is entitled to hate more and kill more. Sinister political agendas and ideologies will attempt to exploit religion. Extremism, vengeance and persecution will deepen not only in the region but also around the world.

    What happens next will be a turning point for the entire globe. A concerted international effort to develop a regional architecture of peace, security and prosperity, built on a Palestinian-Israeli peace based on the two-state solution, is a priority.

    It is up to responsible leaders to deliver results, starting now. That work will not be easy, but it is imperative. There is no victory in the carnage that has been unfolding. No one will prevail unless the Palestinians are given their rights and their state. Only this will be a true victory for peace, for Palestinians and for Israelis alike. And that, more than anything, would be a victory for our common humanity.

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592

    For more than a month now, the war in Gaza has been dividing the world, with the deepening split aggravated by intense emotions. Two narratives, Palestinian and Israeli, have pitted demonstrators, media outlets, religions, peoples and regions against each other. In the process, the moral clarity that we should and must share about basic human values has turned into moral confusion.

    So let’s start with some basic reality. The fact is that the thousands of victims across Israel, Gaza and the West Bank have been overwhelmingly civilians. On Oct. 7, Israel was wounded and deeply traumatized by the killings of more than 1,000 Israelis, including women and children, by Hamas. And since then, more than 11,000 Palestinians have been killed by the indiscriminate Israeli shelling of Gaza. Thousands of children lie dead in the rubble of Gaza’s destroyed houses, schools and hospitals. In the name of our common humanity, how can such brutal acts and murders be accepted?

    Today’s human suffering and global tensions urge us to adhere to the norms of humanity before we reach a moral breaking point for all.

    Leaders everywhere have the responsibility to face the full reality of this crisis, as ugly as it is. Only by anchoring ourselves to the concrete facts that have brought us to this point will we be able to change the increasingly dangerous direction of our world.

    It begins by recognizing our duty not only to enforce humanitarian intervention and put an end to this atrocious war but also to admit that the current path is not a path to victory for anyone — and most definitely not a path guided by moral clarity.

    I cannot but believe that Palestinians and Israelis want the same things. They are not monsters; they do not cherish misery and death. Like Israelis, Palestinians have a right to lives of dignity, security and respect, in an independent, sovereign and viable state.

    Yet for almost 20 years, Israel’s unilateral actions have underminedthe peace process and flouted the Oslo accords, which promised the two-state solution of peace and security for both sides. Instead, step by step, and against international law, the Palestinian territories have been divided into small, disconnected enclaves. Israel has tripled its “settlements” on land that the accords recognized would be part of the Palestinian state. Jerusalemites have been pushed out of their homes. Muslim and Christian holy sites have been attacked and worshipers harassed. And now, 60 percent of Gaza’s besieged population of 2.3 million Palestinians has been displaced.

    Gazan families being bombed out of their homes are victims of this collective punishment, with no place to take shelter. No hospital, no school and no U.N. building is safe any longer. And make no mistake, Gazans will not abandon their homes because a leaflet or a text message tells them to do so. They know that leaving means losing hope, dignity and the chance to go back to their land: They have seen it happen to waves and waves of their fellow Palestinians and to their ancestors throughout the past seven decades of this conflict.

    Indeed, Israel’s “exit” from Gaza 18 years ago was not a contribution to the two-state solution but a preemption of any such solution. It produced a permanent division that denied a Palestinian state by denying a single Palestinian partner.

    An Israeli leadership that is unwilling to take the path of peace on the basis of the two-state solution will not be able to provide its people the security they need.

    Israelis cannot continue their lives as usual, expecting security solutions alone to ensure their safety, while Palestinians live in misery and injustice. With no political horizon, the promise of a peaceful future will evade both Israelis and Palestinians.

    Are there any realistic alternatives to a two-state solution? It is hard to imagine any. A one-state solution would force Israel’s identity to accommodate competing national identities. A no-state solution would deny Palestinian rights and dignity.

    If the status quo continues, the days ahead will be driven by an ongoing war of narratives over who is entitled to hate more and kill more. Sinister political agendas and ideologies will attempt to exploit religion. Extremism, vengeance and persecution will deepen not only in the region but also around the world.

    What happens next will be a turning point for the entire globe. A concerted international effort to develop a regional architecture of peace, security and prosperity, built on a Palestinian-Israeli peace based on the two-state solution, is a priority.

    It is up to responsible leaders to deliver results, starting now. That work will not be easy, but it is imperative. There is no victory in the carnage that has been unfolding. No one will prevail unless the Palestinians are given their rights and their state. Only this will be a true victory for peace, for Palestinians and for Israelis alike. And that, more than anything, would be a victory for our common humanity.


    just ran across this and was coming here to post.

    gift op-ed


     Opinion | King of Jordan: A two-state solution would be a victory for our common humanity
    Opinion by King Abdullah II

    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

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  • mickeyrat said:

    For more than a month now, the war in Gaza has been dividing the world, with the deepening split aggravated by intense emotions. Two narratives, Palestinian and Israeli, have pitted demonstrators, media outlets, religions, peoples and regions against each other. In the process, the moral clarity that we should and must share about basic human values has turned into moral confusion.

    So let’s start with some basic reality. The fact is that the thousands of victims across Israel, Gaza and the West Bank have been overwhelmingly civilians. On Oct. 7, Israel was wounded and deeply traumatized by the killings of more than 1,000 Israelis, including women and children, by Hamas. And since then, more than 11,000 Palestinians have been killed by the indiscriminate Israeli shelling of Gaza. Thousands of children lie dead in the rubble of Gaza’s destroyed houses, schools and hospitals. In the name of our common humanity, how can such brutal acts and murders be accepted?

    Today’s human suffering and global tensions urge us to adhere to the norms of humanity before we reach a moral breaking point for all.

    Leaders everywhere have the responsibility to face the full reality of this crisis, as ugly as it is. Only by anchoring ourselves to the concrete facts that have brought us to this point will we be able to change the increasingly dangerous direction of our world.

    It begins by recognizing our duty not only to enforce humanitarian intervention and put an end to this atrocious war but also to admit that the current path is not a path to victory for anyone — and most definitely not a path guided by moral clarity.

    I cannot but believe that Palestinians and Israelis want the same things. They are not monsters; they do not cherish misery and death. Like Israelis, Palestinians have a right to lives of dignity, security and respect, in an independent, sovereign and viable state.

    Yet for almost 20 years, Israel’s unilateral actions have underminedthe peace process and flouted the Oslo accords, which promised the two-state solution of peace and security for both sides. Instead, step by step, and against international law, the Palestinian territories have been divided into small, disconnected enclaves. Israel has tripled its “settlements” on land that the accords recognized would be part of the Palestinian state. Jerusalemites have been pushed out of their homes. Muslim and Christian holy sites have been attacked and worshipers harassed. And now, 60 percent of Gaza’s besieged population of 2.3 million Palestinians has been displaced.

    Gazan families being bombed out of their homes are victims of this collective punishment, with no place to take shelter. No hospital, no school and no U.N. building is safe any longer. And make no mistake, Gazans will not abandon their homes because a leaflet or a text message tells them to do so. They know that leaving means losing hope, dignity and the chance to go back to their land: They have seen it happen to waves and waves of their fellow Palestinians and to their ancestors throughout the past seven decades of this conflict.

    Indeed, Israel’s “exit” from Gaza 18 years ago was not a contribution to the two-state solution but a preemption of any such solution. It produced a permanent division that denied a Palestinian state by denying a single Palestinian partner.

    An Israeli leadership that is unwilling to take the path of peace on the basis of the two-state solution will not be able to provide its people the security they need.

    Israelis cannot continue their lives as usual, expecting security solutions alone to ensure their safety, while Palestinians live in misery and injustice. With no political horizon, the promise of a peaceful future will evade both Israelis and Palestinians.

    Are there any realistic alternatives to a two-state solution? It is hard to imagine any. A one-state solution would force Israel’s identity to accommodate competing national identities. A no-state solution would deny Palestinian rights and dignity.

    If the status quo continues, the days ahead will be driven by an ongoing war of narratives over who is entitled to hate more and kill more. Sinister political agendas and ideologies will attempt to exploit religion. Extremism, vengeance and persecution will deepen not only in the region but also around the world.

    What happens next will be a turning point for the entire globe. A concerted international effort to develop a regional architecture of peace, security and prosperity, built on a Palestinian-Israeli peace based on the two-state solution, is a priority.

    It is up to responsible leaders to deliver results, starting now. That work will not be easy, but it is imperative. There is no victory in the carnage that has been unfolding. No one will prevail unless the Palestinians are given their rights and their state. Only this will be a true victory for peace, for Palestinians and for Israelis alike. And that, more than anything, would be a victory for our common humanity.


    just ran across this and was coming here to post.

    gift op-ed


     Opinion | King of Jordan: A two-state solution would be a victory for our common humanity
    Opinion by King Abdullah II

    I purposely left off the headline and source to see if readers could remain objective.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592
    mickeyrat said:

    For more than a month now, the war in Gaza has been dividing the world, with the deepening split aggravated by intense emotions. Two narratives, Palestinian and Israeli, have pitted demonstrators, media outlets, religions, peoples and regions against each other. In the process, the moral clarity that we should and must share about basic human values has turned into moral confusion.

    So let’s start with some basic reality. The fact is that the thousands of victims across Israel, Gaza and the West Bank have been overwhelmingly civilians. On Oct. 7, Israel was wounded and deeply traumatized by the killings of more than 1,000 Israelis, including women and children, by Hamas. And since then, more than 11,000 Palestinians have been killed by the indiscriminate Israeli shelling of Gaza. Thousands of children lie dead in the rubble of Gaza’s destroyed houses, schools and hospitals. In the name of our common humanity, how can such brutal acts and murders be accepted?

    Today’s human suffering and global tensions urge us to adhere to the norms of humanity before we reach a moral breaking point for all.

    Leaders everywhere have the responsibility to face the full reality of this crisis, as ugly as it is. Only by anchoring ourselves to the concrete facts that have brought us to this point will we be able to change the increasingly dangerous direction of our world.

    It begins by recognizing our duty not only to enforce humanitarian intervention and put an end to this atrocious war but also to admit that the current path is not a path to victory for anyone — and most definitely not a path guided by moral clarity.

    I cannot but believe that Palestinians and Israelis want the same things. They are not monsters; they do not cherish misery and death. Like Israelis, Palestinians have a right to lives of dignity, security and respect, in an independent, sovereign and viable state.

    Yet for almost 20 years, Israel’s unilateral actions have underminedthe peace process and flouted the Oslo accords, which promised the two-state solution of peace and security for both sides. Instead, step by step, and against international law, the Palestinian territories have been divided into small, disconnected enclaves. Israel has tripled its “settlements” on land that the accords recognized would be part of the Palestinian state. Jerusalemites have been pushed out of their homes. Muslim and Christian holy sites have been attacked and worshipers harassed. And now, 60 percent of Gaza’s besieged population of 2.3 million Palestinians has been displaced.

    Gazan families being bombed out of their homes are victims of this collective punishment, with no place to take shelter. No hospital, no school and no U.N. building is safe any longer. And make no mistake, Gazans will not abandon their homes because a leaflet or a text message tells them to do so. They know that leaving means losing hope, dignity and the chance to go back to their land: They have seen it happen to waves and waves of their fellow Palestinians and to their ancestors throughout the past seven decades of this conflict.

    Indeed, Israel’s “exit” from Gaza 18 years ago was not a contribution to the two-state solution but a preemption of any such solution. It produced a permanent division that denied a Palestinian state by denying a single Palestinian partner.

    An Israeli leadership that is unwilling to take the path of peace on the basis of the two-state solution will not be able to provide its people the security they need.

    Israelis cannot continue their lives as usual, expecting security solutions alone to ensure their safety, while Palestinians live in misery and injustice. With no political horizon, the promise of a peaceful future will evade both Israelis and Palestinians.

    Are there any realistic alternatives to a two-state solution? It is hard to imagine any. A one-state solution would force Israel’s identity to accommodate competing national identities. A no-state solution would deny Palestinian rights and dignity.

    If the status quo continues, the days ahead will be driven by an ongoing war of narratives over who is entitled to hate more and kill more. Sinister political agendas and ideologies will attempt to exploit religion. Extremism, vengeance and persecution will deepen not only in the region but also around the world.

    What happens next will be a turning point for the entire globe. A concerted international effort to develop a regional architecture of peace, security and prosperity, built on a Palestinian-Israeli peace based on the two-state solution, is a priority.

    It is up to responsible leaders to deliver results, starting now. That work will not be easy, but it is imperative. There is no victory in the carnage that has been unfolding. No one will prevail unless the Palestinians are given their rights and their state. Only this will be a true victory for peace, for Palestinians and for Israelis alike. And that, more than anything, would be a victory for our common humanity.


    just ran across this and was coming here to post.

    gift op-ed


     Opinion | King of Jordan: A two-state solution would be a victory for our common humanity
    Opinion by King Abdullah II

    I purposely left off the headline and source to see if readers could remain objective.

    Well, I found it to be even handed.
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,255
    edited November 2023
    Post edited by 23scidoo on
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    LBCeddie said:
    thanks for the 'advice'. LOL
    My pleasure, hopefully you feel better already.  Keep your head up Skipper, everything will be fine.  Turn off the news.
    Waste of time..
    you're obsessed. 
    Me??..hahahahahaha..you don't have a mirror in your house??..

    This reminds me of when my brother and I were little kids and one of us would say to the other, "I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I... :lol:
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,255
    brianlux said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    LBCeddie said:
    thanks for the 'advice'. LOL
    My pleasure, hopefully you feel better already.  Keep your head up Skipper, everything will be fine.  Turn off the news.
    Waste of time..
    you're obsessed. 
    Me??..hahahahahaha..you don't have a mirror in your house??..

    This reminds me of when my brother and I were little kids and one of us would say to the other, "I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I... :lol:
    Exactly!!!
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,255
    Well done Israel, very funny..

    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    23scidoo said:
    I feel like if someone finds this funny they don't understand humor. At best it is a very lame attempt.
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,255
    static111 said:
    23scidoo said:
    I feel like if someone finds this funny they don't understand humor. At best it is a very lame attempt.
    I guess you understand my irony..
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    23scidoo said:
    brianlux said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    LBCeddie said:
    thanks for the 'advice'. LOL
    My pleasure, hopefully you feel better already.  Keep your head up Skipper, everything will be fine.  Turn off the news.
    Waste of time..
    you're obsessed. 
    Me??..hahahahahaha..you don't have a mirror in your house??..

    This reminds me of when my brother and I were little kids and one of us would say to the other, "I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I... :lol:
    Exactly!!!

    Well, I'm glad you see your mirror!

    So anyway, as the thread title says, Meanwhile, back in Israel...
    Good to see Biden say occupying Gaza would be "a big mistake".


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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,255
    brianlux said:
    23scidoo said:
    brianlux said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    LBCeddie said:
    thanks for the 'advice'. LOL
    My pleasure, hopefully you feel better already.  Keep your head up Skipper, everything will be fine.  Turn off the news.
    Waste of time..
    you're obsessed. 
    Me??..hahahahahaha..you don't have a mirror in your house??..

    This reminds me of when my brother and I were little kids and one of us would say to the other, "I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I... :lol:
    Exactly!!!

    Well, I'm glad you see your mirror!

    So anyway, as the thread title says, Meanwhile, back in Israel...
    Good to see Biden say occupying Gaza would be "a big mistake".


    Or it's like who has it bigger??..hahaha..
    Trust me Brian, i know my mistakes..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

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  • mickeyrat said:
    Anyone who has heard the dog whistles isn’t surprised by this. But to care, post about it or share tweets is to have PDS and be a waste of time. Not difficult to understand where sympathy lies.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    23scidoo said:
    brianlux said:
    23scidoo said:
    brianlux said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    LBCeddie said:
    thanks for the 'advice'. LOL
    My pleasure, hopefully you feel better already.  Keep your head up Skipper, everything will be fine.  Turn off the news.
    Waste of time..
    you're obsessed. 
    Me??..hahahahahaha..you don't have a mirror in your house??..

    This reminds me of when my brother and I were little kids and one of us would say to the other, "I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I... :lol:
    Exactly!!!

    Well, I'm glad you see your mirror!

    So anyway, as the thread title says, Meanwhile, back in Israel...
    Good to see Biden say occupying Gaza would be "a big mistake".


    Or it's like who has it bigger??..hahaha..
    Trust me Brian, i know my mistakes..

    I have made plenty of mistakes myself, but I'm not going to count them.  I only have 10 fingers.  :lol: 
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  • brianlux said:
    23scidoo said:
    brianlux said:
    23scidoo said:
    brianlux said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    LBCeddie said:
    thanks for the 'advice'. LOL
    My pleasure, hopefully you feel better already.  Keep your head up Skipper, everything will be fine.  Turn off the news.
    Waste of time..
    you're obsessed. 
    Me??..hahahahahaha..you don't have a mirror in your house??..

    This reminds me of when my brother and I were little kids and one of us would say to the other, "I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I... :lol:
    Exactly!!!

    Well, I'm glad you see your mirror!

    So anyway, as the thread title says, Meanwhile, back in Israel...
    Good to see Biden say occupying Gaza would be "a big mistake".


    Or it's like who has it bigger??..hahaha..
    Trust me Brian, i know my mistakes..

    I have made plenty of mistakes myself, but I'm not going to count them.  I only have 10 fingers.  :lol: 
    No toes?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    brianlux said:
    23scidoo said:
    brianlux said:
    23scidoo said:
    brianlux said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    LBCeddie said:
    thanks for the 'advice'. LOL
    My pleasure, hopefully you feel better already.  Keep your head up Skipper, everything will be fine.  Turn off the news.
    Waste of time..
    you're obsessed. 
    Me??..hahahahahaha..you don't have a mirror in your house??..

    This reminds me of when my brother and I were little kids and one of us would say to the other, "I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I... :lol:
    Exactly!!!

    Well, I'm glad you see your mirror!

    So anyway, as the thread title says, Meanwhile, back in Israel...
    Good to see Biden say occupying Gaza would be "a big mistake".


    Or it's like who has it bigger??..hahaha..
    Trust me Brian, i know my mistakes..

    I have made plenty of mistakes myself, but I'm not going to count them.  I only have 10 fingers.  :lol: 
    No toes?

    They actually act as my penance.  I stub them regularly and often.
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Posts: 19,255
    brianlux said:
    23scidoo said:
    brianlux said:
    23scidoo said:
    brianlux said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    LBCeddie said:
    thanks for the 'advice'. LOL
    My pleasure, hopefully you feel better already.  Keep your head up Skipper, everything will be fine.  Turn off the news.
    Waste of time..
    you're obsessed. 
    Me??..hahahahahaha..you don't have a mirror in your house??..

    This reminds me of when my brother and I were little kids and one of us would say to the other, "I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I, I know you are, but what am I... :lol:
    Exactly!!!

    Well, I'm glad you see your mirror!

    So anyway, as the thread title says, Meanwhile, back in Israel...
    Good to see Biden say occupying Gaza would be "a big mistake".


    Or it's like who has it bigger??..hahaha..
    Trust me Brian, i know my mistakes..

    I have made plenty of mistakes myself, but I'm not going to count them.  I only have 10 fingers.  :lol: 
    Me too..lol
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    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • So Israel depopulated the North and moved all the “terrorist animals” to the south to make it easier, eh? Is this how you do ethnic cleansing? Or should we not believe the WSJ?



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