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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    On Sept 11, 2001 when asked what 911 meant for relations between US and Israel Netnyahoo replied "it's very good".
    As a "special friend" Netnyahoo wasn't sympathetic only that "it will generate immediate sympathy" his thoughts were how can I/we benefit. Real special friend.
  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    JC29856 said:

    Before an audience at Bar Ilan University in 2008, Netanyahu restated his belief that 9-11 was, as he said, “very good.” “We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq,” Netanyahu said during a conference about re-dividing Jerusalem in the event of a peace treaty with the Palestinians.

    were those relations of his dancing on the roof top across the river in jersey
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.741838?v=33FC665B7A2F10E9ACC3D5DA9201E152


    Only $38 billion to continue occupation apartheid and ethnic cleansing
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,615
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-palestinians-hamas-document-idUSKBN17X1N8?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5907328004d3013f4c6b7c7e&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook

    The Palestinian Islamist group Hamas will remove a call for Israel's destruction and drop its association with the Muslim Brotherhood in a new policy document to be issued on Monday, Gulf Arab sources said.

    Hamas's move appears aimed at improving relations with Gulf Arab states and Egypt, which label the Brotherhood as a terrorist organization, as well as with Western countries, many of which classify Hamas as a terrorist group over its hostility to Israel.

    The sources said Hamas, which has controlled the Gaza Strip since 2007, will say in the document that it agrees to a transitional Palestinian state along the borders from 1967, when Israel captured Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem in a war with Arab states. Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005.

    A future state encompassing Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem along 1967 borders is the goal of Hamas' main political rival, the Fatah movement led by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas. His Palestinian Authority has engaged in peace talks with Israel on that basis, although the last, U.S.-mediated round collapsed three years ago.

    The revised Hamas political document, to be announced later on Monday, will still reject Israel's right to exist and back "armed struggle" against it, the Gulf Arab sources told Reuters.

    Hamas has fought three wars with Israel since 2007 and has carried out hundreds of armed attacks in Israel and in Israeli-occupied territories since it was founded three decades ago.

    It remains unclear whether the document replaces or changes in any way Hamas's 1988 charter, which calls for Israel’s destruction and is the Islamist group's covenant.

    A Hamas spokesman in Qatar declined to comment. There was no immediate comment from Egypt and Gulf Arab states.

    Arab sources said the Hamas document was being released ahead of a planned visit by Abbas to Washington on May 3 and as Donald Trump administration prepares to make a renewed push for Israeli-Palestinian peace.

    Analysts say the revised document could allow Hamas to mend relations with Western countries and pave the way for a reconciliation agreement with the Palestine Liberation Organisation, now also headed by Abbas.

    U.S.-allied Arab states including Egypt, the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia classify the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization. The 89-year-old Brotherhood held power in Egypt for a year after a popular uprising in 2011.

    The Brotherhood denies links with Islamist militants and advocates Islamist political parties winning power through elections, which Saudi Arabia considers a threat to its system of absolute power through inherited rule.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    BS44325 said:

    mickeyrat said:

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    BS44325 said:

    This is where the incitement leads...

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/two-seriously-hurt-in-west-bank-shooting-attack/

    A 13 year old girl stabbed to death in her bedroom.

    Shame a young woman was killed in the bedroom of a house inside an illegal settlement in occupied territory. I think the Israeli government can better protect its citizens if its citizens were moved to within the established borders of Israel.
    This reads as if you think such an event is par for the course and the young girl deserved such a fate.
    par for the course? hardly. surprising? no not surprising at all.

    remember this young lady was a fellow american citizen. I would have preferred the Israeli government hadnt built this settlement and all others in occupied territory in the first place. Its not likely she would have been murdered had they not.
    That's like blaming the rape victim for the way she was dressed.
    so israel is the rape victim? get the fuck over yourself.
    one of MY fellow citizens was murdered as a DIRECT result of the actions taken by the state of israel.

    she is an innocent in this.
    No. One of your fellow citizens was murdered by a hate-filled antisemitic psycopath who was raised that way by both his government and his parents. His family is currently celebrating his great achievement and in doing so enourages the next terrorist act. These are the soldiers of your resistance and you enable them with everyone of your posts.
    no. I enable them with my portion of the 5 or 6 BILLION year in mitary aid that oppresses these people. THATS my guilt in this.
    You also paid a portion of the attempt to oust Netanyahu

    http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-admin-sent-taxpayer-money-oust-netanyahu/

    But that isn't your guilt. Your real guilt is that you perpetuate the violence by making excuses for the depraved individuals who would murder a 13 year old girl in her sleep. A generation of children have been raised to hate jews and to think that actions such as this are ok and you give comfort to them. These are the soldiers of your resistance so please don't cry fake tears for this child.
    Using extremist rhetoric to denounce extremists lol
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,447
    "The revised Hamas political document, to be announced later on Monday, will still reject Israel's right to exist..."

    Not sure peace talks will go much further...hopefully...but that seem close to a non-starter no?
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    "The revised Hamas political document, to be announced later on Monday, will still reject Israel's right to exist..."

    Not sure peace talks will go much further...hopefully...but that seem close to a non-starter no?

    Yep, definitely a non-starter.
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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    A good article on the topic of party charters.


    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20141011-forget-its-charter-hamas-has-given-de-facto-recognition-to-the-state-of-israel/



    I wonder if Likud will revise their charter to remove references to Israel existing on land defined by the UN as Palestinian at the time of Israel's creation as their god given right? You know, since they are actively pursuing these goals and accomplishing them. And that's just the ruling likud charter...what about the rest of bibi's coalition? should we talk about the beliefs of the extremists in the Jewish Home party?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,058
    Can't wait for Bibi to welcome Trump and his brilliant world tour. Question? Will trump walk off the plane in a full length over coat when he arrives in Saudi? Or shorts and a MAGA hat? Or some semblance of an outfit that exudes style and American power? Like the US Olympic team from 1980?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,058
    BS44325 said:
    I guess Pearl Jsm should play there now? Too bad they don't show more compassion for the Palestinians.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,058
    And shouldn't the credit go to the US for the $3.5 billion in aid every year? How quickly some forget. When will Israel become self sufficient and stop adding to our deficit?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    And shouldn't the credit go to the US for the $3.5 billion in aid every year? How quickly some forget. When will Israel become self sufficient and stop adding to our deficit?
    they are getting 6 billion with a new deal. while the senate is about to kick millions off of medicaid and give that money to the rich.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    how about that kushner? Mr. ifhecan'tmakepeaceitcan'tbedone himself. word is that abbas does not like kushner. one meeting with abbas that went so badly there is talk that trump may pull the americans out of the negotiations. 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    it would probably be better for the palestinians if we stayed the hell out of the negotiations anyway, as we will function like netanyahu's advisors and spokesman rather than honest brokers for peace.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited June 2017
    Israel attempting to convert Palestinians in Gaza to the Amish religion by cutting electricity for 21 hours per day.

    https://news.vice.com/story/israel-is-trying-to-cause-a-humanitarian-crisis-in-gaza-to-oust-hamas

    Post edited by JC29856 on
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    JC29856 said:
    Israel attempting to convert Palestinians in Gaza to the Amish religion by cutting electricity for 21 hours per day.

    https://news.vice.com/story/israel-is-trying-to-cause-a-humanitarian-crisis-in-gaza-to-oust-hamas

    brutal. you would think that the israelis would want to convert them all to judism.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    JC29856 said:
    Israel attempting to convert Palestinians in Gaza to the Amish religion by cutting electricity for 21 hours per day.

    https://news.vice.com/story/israel-is-trying-to-cause-a-humanitarian-crisis-in-gaza-to-oust-hamas

    This was on the request of the Palestinian Authority

    https://www.google.ca/amp/www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-israel-gaza-power-20170612-story,amp.html

    Your link touches on this point as well. Hamas is an oppressor of the Palestinians in Gaza and must be removed for the peace process to continue. The PA recognizes this.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    BS44325 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Israel attempting to convert Palestinians in Gaza to the Amish religion by cutting electricity for 21 hours per day.

    https://news.vice.com/story/israel-is-trying-to-cause-a-humanitarian-crisis-in-gaza-to-oust-hamas

    This was on the request of the Palestinian Authority

    https://www.google.ca/amp/www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-israel-gaza-power-20170612-story,amp.html

    Your link touches on this point as well. Hamas is an oppressor of the Palestinians in Gaza and must be removed for the peace process to continue. The PA recognizes this.
    so was white phosphorus!


  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    JC29856 said:
    BS44325 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Israel attempting to convert Palestinians in Gaza to the Amish religion by cutting electricity for 21 hours per day.

    https://news.vice.com/story/israel-is-trying-to-cause-a-humanitarian-crisis-in-gaza-to-oust-hamas

    This was on the request of the Palestinian Authority

    https://www.google.ca/amp/www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-israel-gaza-power-20170612-story,amp.html

    Your link touches on this point as well. Hamas is an oppressor of the Palestinians in Gaza and must be removed for the peace process to continue. The PA recognizes this.
    so was white phosphorus!


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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    BS44325 said:
    JC29856 said:
    BS44325 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Israel attempting to convert Palestinians in Gaza to the Amish religion by cutting electricity for 21 hours per day.

    https://news.vice.com/story/israel-is-trying-to-cause-a-humanitarian-crisis-in-gaza-to-oust-hamas

    This was on the request of the Palestinian Authority

    https://www.google.ca/amp/www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-israel-gaza-power-20170612-story,amp.html

    Your link touches on this point as well. Hamas is an oppressor of the Palestinians in Gaza and must be removed for the peace process to continue. The PA recognizes this.
    so was white phosphorus!


    Exclamation point!

    BS44325 said:
    JC29856 said:
    BS44325 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Israel attempting to convert Palestinians in Gaza to the Amish religion by cutting electricity for 21 hours per day.

    https://news.vice.com/story/israel-is-trying-to-cause-a-humanitarian-crisis-in-gaza-to-oust-hamas

    This was on the request of the Palestinian Authority

    https://www.google.ca/amp/www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-israel-gaza-power-20170612-story,amp.html

    Your link touches on this point as well. Hamas is an oppressor of the Palestinians in Gaza and must be removed for the peace process to continue. The PA recognizes this.
    so was white phosphorus!


    those that throw stones get shot dead or bombed. I'm the Palestinian Authority and I approve this message.

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,058
    Jared hides from the media as questions swirl around his $250 million Duetch Bank loan a month before the election while Duetch Bank is negotiating fines for Russian money laundering. How's that Mideast peace coming along?
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    "imagine" the outrage if an Israeli adult was pelted with stones at a checkpoint!!!!

    http://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=777972
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited July 2017
    3 years ago today
    a day at the beach! 

    https://youtu.be/_HHnzLO1-BI
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited July 2017
    would be interesting if someone produced a "where are they now?" on the little Israeli girls that doodled love messages on bombs destined for Lebanese women and children 11 years ago.

    http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com/2006/07/israeli-children-sign-their-missiles_18.html
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    I swear to fucking God, there are people out there who are looking for a reason to kill! 

    I firmly agree! Some just lust for any war they can get involved in.


    Netanyahu: Israel Opposes Cease-fire Deal Reached by U.S. and Russia in Southern Syria

    https://www.haaretz.com/wwwMobileSite/israel-news/1.801612
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    radiohead parody song creep.
    I love the white phosphorous reference

    https://youtu.be/iOYxif7_Dek


  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Israeli Occupiers are firing bullets, gas & sound bombs on worshippers in Al-Aqsa https://t.co/2b0oSUuoFO
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