Record Store Day Mystery Vinyl

RoleModelsinBlood31

benjs said:

handreads7-30 said:

In the spirit of continued excitement leading up to Saturday, I threw together a quick spreadsheet with estimated odds assuming you can land one of the mystery packages.

I resorted everything based on PJ vs. Other and tried my best to put things inline with their release time-frame.

Just my $0.02 so take it for what it is worth.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Cpe-e6O0pm0WinLlsjbga7H_y6bizXYPc0Gz-aAmyno/edit?usp=sharing

I think we're all very, very sick, because I hate to think about how many odds spreadsheets have been created for this (yours and mine included, of course).

The way I see it, it'd be pretty easy for PJ to release exact quantities of how many of each product they have. To know that a product had between five and ten in stock, they'd need to know that there are seven in total. In that case, there's probably a reason they're giving the range - and that's likely to round up where convenient (rare products), and round down where inconvenient (commodity-like products). In that case, I'd guess a game being played, and likely the odds of getting a commodity-like item are greater than even our most conservative estimates, and the odds of getting a rarer item are less than our most conservative estimates.

Going through engineering has left me entirely skeptical about numbers and their true meanings: too often, we think of numbers as 'firm' and 'without bias', but their presentations do change those all the time.

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KP198228

Wow, this is exciting! Sorry but I have some strong feeling on this that I would like to express. First off, this is a really cool idea and the best thing about RSD IMO. Now having said that $50.. plus shipping is a bit of a rip off. period. $35/$40 makes more sense to me. As a fan this is not the pearl jam of old. What happen to the band that tried to lower ticket prices for their fans? It just smacks of being taken advantage of to me. I can't help but say it feels like they (PJ and their people) have become what they use to fight against and that is disappointing. At the end of the day we are talking about $70 plus dollars for an LP and single!!! and that's on the cheap end. I also believe that not much care will be put into the selection. I think most of us will get 2 of what we'd rather not have, and that is disappointing. But... the concept is brilliant, and I love to gamble a bit, so the anticipation (just like with gambling) will most likely be better than the outcome...which is why you get this rant from me, cus it's me having fun. So I'm in (reluctantly) and OK if I lose out. Now, if I was to snatch an LP that I actually wanted.... then it will be a great experience. If I don't get in, or don't get something I love, or learn to love.... then it's the same feeling I get after buying a scratch ticket... in hind sight, hardly worth it. Sorry if I bored you but thanks for listening!

Now.. what is with all the Benaroual talk, why is that the one a lot posters want? Is it the collect- ability or the actual performance that is sought?

Love the "this is what I want" posts... here's mine and maybe we could keep this up.

3 LP's I would love to land... plus 2 honorable mentions:

Lost Dogs
Avocado "Self Titled"
Mad Season

Coke Bottle Ten
Yield

Single's:

Sevens box set
2003 Annual 7" single
Mother Love Bone "Hold Your Head Up"

Mad Season River of Deceit
Merkin Ball

You see the only LP of PJ's I have is Vitalogy and I'm more into what I like rather then what is rare.

Lastly, Thank you to everyone that submitted an odds chart. Those are awesome and really get you thinking.

LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan

Santos, any idea how quick the shipping turnaround will be? Curious if I should save some money and ship to my sister in Los Angeles and have my mom bring the vinyl back with her on the plane.

HughFreakingDillon

not another "this is not the pearl jam of old" comment. ugh.

Leezestarr313

KP198228 said:

Now.. what is with all the Benaroual talk, why is that the one a lot posters want? Is it the collect- ability or the actual performance that is sought?

Well, I can't talk for everybody, but in my opinion the Benaroya Hall show is one of the most beautiful recordings the band have done. From beginning to end. This is why I would like one. So bad. Sigh. Many posters would like it because it is not easy to come by. There were allegedly only 2000 made, so the demand exceeds the supply. I cannot justify to drop a grand or more on a vinyl album. I am a normal person.
PJ needs to start reissuing stuff

PP193448

Yeah. Boo hoo. How dare they charge $50 for chance to get some rare vinyl, some of which has market value of $750-1200. I cannot believe it!!

JustaPJFan

Is international shipment really $70? Pff, I can almost buy Yield or No Code with that kind of money....

JustaPJFan

JustaPJFan said:

Is international shipment really $70? Pff, I can almost buy Yield or No Code with that kind of money.... can anyone confirm this?

quasi

I guess the best way is to expect the worst possible scenario and be surprised if anything rare arrives. In my case, I'll just expect to get Lightning Bolt Black and the 2012 X-Mas Single. I have friends I could give them to as gifts.

2-feign-reluctance

Too much thinking. Too much!!

WhatYouTaughtMe

PP193448 said:

Yeah. Boo hoo. How dare they charge $50 for chance to get some rare vinyl, some of which has market value of $750-1200. I cannot believe it!!

I know, right? AND they don't have Live on Two Legs listed! What kind of a Mickey Mouse operation is this? Pffffffft!

demetrios

2-feign-reluctance said:

Too much thinking. Too much!!

I know right? I'm like ..



Though I am hoping the Canadian dollar closes @ .99 cents to the USA dollar by this Friday. Wishful thinking right? lol Would take some kind of miracle to make that happen.

MedozK

2-feign-reluctance said:

Too much thinking. Too much!!

Yep. I'm not hoping for a certain record. I'm just hoping I get to buy one. I would like to see the odds of that. 200,000 members vying for 1000 things. hmmm isnt that like something like I have a .5% chance of actually buying it.

HesCalledDyer

HughFreakingDillon said:

not another "this is not the pearl jam of old" comment. ugh.

Coadster1

Hoping for Yield LP and Sevens Box Set 7"! But I'll be happy with anything, I actually don't have anything listed, well, besides Vs. Reissue LP

mace1229

KP198228 said:

Wow, this is exciting! Sorry but I have some strong feeling on this that I would like to express. First off, this is a really cool idea and the best thing about RSD IMO. Now having said that $50.. plus shipping is a bit of a rip off. period. $35/$40 makes more sense to me. As a fan this is not the pearl jam of old. What happen to the band that tried to lower ticket prices for their fans? It just smacks of being taken advantage of to me. I can't help but say it feels like they (PJ and their people) have become what they use to fight against and that is disappointing. At the end of the day we are talking about $70 plus dollars for an LP and single!!! and that's on the cheap end. I also believe that not much care will be put into the selection. I think most of us will get 2 of what we'd rather not have, and that is disappointing. But... the concept is brilliant, and I love to gamble a bit, so the anticipation (just like with gambling) will most likely be better than the outcome...which is why you get this rant from me, cus it's me having fun. So I'm in (reluctantly) and OK if I lose out. Now, if I was to snatch an LP that I actually wanted.... then it will be a great experience. If I don't get in, or don't get something I love, or learn to love.... then it's the same feeling I get after buying a scratch ticket... in hind sight, hardly worth it. Sorry if I bored you but thanks for listening!

Now.. what is with all the Benaroual talk, why is that the one a lot posters want? Is it the collect- ability or the actual performance that is sought?

Love the "this is what I want" posts... here's mine and maybe we could keep this up.

3 LP's I would love to land... plus 2 honorable mentions:

Lost Dogs
Avocado "Self Titled"
Mad Season

Coke Bottle Ten
Yield

Single's:

Sevens box set
2003 Annual 7" single
Mother Love Bone "Hold Your Head Up"

Mad Season River of Deceit
Merkin Ball

You see the only LP of PJ's I have is Vitalogy and I'm more into what I like rather then what is rare.

Lastly, Thank you to everyone that submitted an odds chart. Those are awesome and really get you thinking.

For a lot of us I think its more trying to get what we don't already have.
I remember being in Jr. High and asking my mom to write a check so I can buy Vit. or No Code on vinyl through their newsletter, not realizing they would be collectibles one day (and I still play them on vinyl 20 years later more than I play the actual CD by the way. The vinyl sits in my living room and all my CD's are boxed up in the basement. I don't care how rare it is, I'll still spin it). The only vinyl I didn't buy was Binaural because I was a poor college student, and my record player was back home. That was also about the time vinyl made a comeback and I wasn't able to buy it later! Didn't make that mistake again.
I've only been able to get my hands on a couple limited edition vinyl, so here's a chance at a reasonable price, even though odds are I will end up with something I already have.

Out of My Mind and Time

...and it may open the window for fans that get duplicates and others want to trade or buy. At least this is getting these to the open market and not in a warehouse.

If you get a rarity, and it is a duplicate of what you have, and can sell it for way more than what you bought it for, are you?

Zod

MedozK said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

Too much thinking. Too much!!

Yep. I'm not hoping for a certain record. I'm just hoping I get to buy one. I would like to see the odds of that. 200,000 members vying for 1000 things. hmmm isnt that like something like I have a .5% chance of actually buying it.

I know the band sometimes randomly puts stuff on sale. I'm wondering how I feel about it not going on sale as soon as the newsletter when out. With everyone getting almost a two weeks heads up it's going to be a shitshow on here at 7am PST.... lol. Website is going to crash, people are going to lose their cart item during the checkout process etc.. Giving two weeks to us ravenous collecting PJ fans is going to be messy

FrankY59

I think the Riot Act wish list is up to TWO...for all the Benny fanatics I hope to get Riot Act over Benny. Yes, I know I can buy 5 copies of Riot Act with 1 Benny...or that Riot Act will probably be reissued by the year 2019. But it's the least I can do for not contributing to the reissue Benny thread. I love you Riot Act.

Leezestarr313

I Love Riot Act too. But I have it already If I get one, would you trade it for a Benny with me?