Not sure if this was already mentioned, but just wondering if they plan on stopping orders as soon as the requisite number of pairs are bought up, or if they plan on letting us all complete the orders and then just cancel most of them randomly (which would amount to a lottery). I am wondering about the second option just because of the statement about having the right to cancel orders for any reason. I would personally prefer option number two. I like lotteries, and not a huge fan of being an F5 victim. But it looks like the assumption is that we'll just see "sold out" at about 10:03am.
WIth option #2, I was thinking the same thing. I'm cautiously optimistic the majority of us will get through to checkout without hassle at 10 AM, then have our orders cancelled throughout the day as the bundles are assembled, basically making this opportunity to purchase a "lottery".
Regardless, I still love this opportunity to get some out-of-print material at a very reasonable price to listen, feel and experience while knowing that is more likely than not of getting a black Backspacer + 2011 Christmas single.
301 comments and 11 pages, with everyone worrying, whining and freaking out about something that hasn't even happened yet. Crazy PJ fans!!!
Hopefully this is letting some steam out of the post mystery sale bitching. I'd like to think that everybody is gonna get a choices piece, whether it's full album or single. I just think the values of the packages are gonna be all over the place so many are gonna feel shortchanged, even if they get their $50 worth.
301 comments and 11 pages, with everyone worrying, whining and freaking out about something that hasn't even happened yet. Crazy PJ fans!!!
Hopefully this is letting some steam out of the post mystery sale bitching. I'd like to think that everybody is gonna get a choices piece, whether it's full album or single. I just think the values of the packages are gonna be all over the place so many are gonna feel shortchanged, even if they get their $50 worth.
There is going to be quite a bit of complaining of ppl whose orders didn't go through...
Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?
301 comments and 11 pages, with everyone worrying, whining and freaking out about something that hasn't even happened yet. Crazy PJ fans!!!
Hopefully this is letting some steam out of the post mystery sale bitching. I'd like to think that everybody is gonna get a choices piece, whether it's full album or single. I just think the values of the packages are gonna be all over the place so many are gonna feel shortchanged, even if they get their $50 worth.
There is going to be quite a bit of complaining of ppl whose orders didn't go through...
I'm not sure it is going to be that fast of a sellout. I could see the board really over hyping this.
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301 comments and 11 pages, with everyone worrying, whining and freaking out about something that hasn't even happened yet. Crazy PJ fans!!!
Hopefully this is letting some steam out of the post mystery sale bitching. I'd like to think that everybody is gonna get a choices piece, whether it's full album or single. I just think the values of the packages are gonna be all over the place so many are gonna feel shortchanged, even if they get their $50 worth.
There is going to be quite a bit of complaining of ppl whose orders didn't go through...
I'm not sure it is going to be that fast of a sellout. I could see the board really over hyping this.
The fact that there's a chance to score a Benny vinyl, it'll sell out fast. But it might throw away many international 10club members when they check out their order. I added a 12" & 7" vinyl in the store & shipping rate was $20.99. That's $70.99 US. So $89.46 CDN. Many might not want to try their luck because of that price.
Though I still believe these Mystery Vinyls will be capped 1 per mailing address. More then 1 shipped to the same mailing address will be canceled.
In the spirit of continued excitement leading up to Saturday, I threw together a quick spreadsheet with estimated odds assuming you can land one of the mystery packages.
I resorted everything based on PJ vs. Other and tried my best to put things inline with their release time-frame.
In the spirit of continued excitement leading up to Saturday, I threw together a quick spreadsheet with estimated odds assuming you can land one of the mystery packages.
I resorted everything based on PJ vs. Other and tried my best to put things inline with their release time-frame.
As much as I'd like to be excited about this. I have lost out every time there's been something that was an item to sell that would sell out in 1 minute or two.
If I remember right, what has maybe gotten me the last few times is when you hit proceed to checkout. The next page you have to enter your shipping. Hitting continue before the shipping cost shows up puts you in a loop if I remember right. When you do this at a normal time like now, it comes up in like half a second. When the system is lagged, it takes a while. I'll tyr to wait this time and see what happens. This might have affected others as well.
I doubt they're going to let all the orders go through and then randomly cancel people. That's way too much work and the complaining would reach epic proportions.
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In the spirit of continued excitement leading up to Saturday, I threw together a quick spreadsheet with estimated odds assuming you can land one of the mystery packages.
I resorted everything based on PJ vs. Other and tried my best to put things inline with their release time-frame.
Be nice if you could buy it now and then they do a lottery to decide who gets to buy, then charged immediately (kinda like tickets).
But like another poster, hopefully it takes a while like the mystery boxes due to the price. Those boxes hung around for a week or so if I remember right.
Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?
In the spirit of continued excitement leading up to Saturday, I threw together a quick spreadsheet with estimated odds assuming you can land one of the mystery packages.
I resorted everything based on PJ vs. Other and tried my best to put things inline with their release time-frame.
I think we're all very, very sick, because I hate to think about how many odds spreadsheets have been created for this (yours and mine included, of course).
The way I see it, it'd be pretty easy for PJ to release exact quantities of how many of each product they have. To know that a product had between five and ten in stock, they'd need to know that there are seven in total. In that case, there's probably a reason they're giving the range - and that's likely to round up where convenient (rare products), and round down where inconvenient (commodity-like products). In that case, I'd guess a game being played, and likely the odds of getting a commodity-like item are greater than even our most conservative estimates, and the odds of getting a rarer item are less than our most conservative estimates.
Going through engineering has left me entirely skeptical about numbers and their true meanings: too often, we think of numbers as 'firm' and 'without bias', but their presentations do change those all the time.
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As some already said, its about $25 worth of excitement and mystery, and $25 in vinyl for most cases. Most of the vinyl offered can be purchased for $15. And like the previous mystery bundles, I can add up the total cost of the items and they amount to about half of what I paid, and are still for sale on the website. That being said, I still always sign up. Its worth the extra $25 to know for sure that I didn't get the Benny than to wonder...
As some already said, its about $25 worth of excitement and mystery, and $25 in vinyl for most cases. Most of the vinyl offered can be purchased for $15. And like the previous mystery bundles, I can add up the total cost of the items and they amount to about half of what I paid, and are still for sale on the website. That being said, I still always sign up. Its worth the extra $25 to know for sure that I didn't get the Benny than to wonder...
In the spirit of continued excitement leading up to Saturday, I threw together a quick spreadsheet with estimated odds assuming you can land one of the mystery packages.
I resorted everything based on PJ vs. Other and tried my best to put things inline with their release time-frame.
I think we're all very, very sick, because I hate to think about how many odds spreadsheets have been created for this (yours and mine included, of course).
The way I see it, it'd be pretty easy for PJ to release exact quantities of how many of each product they have. To know that a product had between five and ten in stock, they'd need to know that there are seven in total. In that case, there's probably a reason they're giving the range - and that's likely to round up where convenient (rare products), and round down where inconvenient (commodity-like products). In that case, I'd guess a game being played, and likely the odds of getting a commodity-like item are greater than even our most conservative estimates, and the odds of getting a rarer item are less than our most conservative estimates.
Going through engineering has left me entirely skeptical about numbers and their true meanings: too often, we think of numbers as 'firm' and 'without bias', but their presentations do change those all the time.
Wow, this is exciting! Sorry but I have some strong feeling on this that I would like to express. First off, this is a really cool idea and the best thing about RSD IMO. Now having said that $50.. plus shipping is a bit of a rip off. period. $35/$40 makes more sense to me. As a fan this is not the pearl jam of old. What happen to the band that tried to lower ticket prices for their fans? It just smacks of being taken advantage of to me. I can't help but say it feels like they (PJ and their people) have become what they use to fight against and that is disappointing. At the end of the day we are talking about $70 plus dollars for an LP and single!!! and that's on the cheap end. I also believe that not much care will be put into the selection. I think most of us will get 2 of what we'd rather not have, and that is disappointing. But... the concept is brilliant, and I love to gamble a bit, so the anticipation (just like with gambling) will most likely be better than the outcome...which is why you get this rant from me, cus it's me having fun. So I'm in (reluctantly) and OK if I lose out. Now, if I was to snatch an LP that I actually wanted.... then it will be a great experience. If I don't get in, or don't get something I love, or learn to love.... then it's the same feeling I get after buying a scratch ticket... in hind sight, hardly worth it. Sorry if I bored you but thanks for listening!
Now.. what is with all the Benaroual talk, why is that the one a lot posters want? Is it the collect- ability or the actual performance that is sought?
Love the "this is what I want" posts... here's mine and maybe we could keep this up.
3 LP's I would love to land... plus 2 honorable mentions:
Lost Dogs Avocado "Self Titled" Mad Season
Coke Bottle Ten Yield
Single's:
Sevens box set 2003 Annual 7" single Mother Love Bone "Hold Your Head Up"
Mad Season River of Deceit Merkin Ball
You see the only LP of PJ's I have is Vitalogy and I'm more into what I like rather then what is rare.
Lastly, Thank you to everyone that submitted an odds chart. Those are awesome and really get you thinking.
Santos, any idea how quick the shipping turnaround will be? Curious if I should save some money and ship to my sister in Los Angeles and have my mom bring the vinyl back with her on the plane.
Now.. what is with all the Benaroual talk, why is that the one a lot posters want? Is it the collect- ability or the actual performance that is sought?
Well, I can't talk for everybody, but in my opinion the Benaroya Hall show is one of the most beautiful recordings the band have done. From beginning to end. This is why I would like one. So bad. Sigh. Many posters would like it because it is not easy to come by. There were allegedly only 2000 made, so the demand exceeds the supply. I cannot justify to drop a grand or more on a vinyl album. I am a normal person. PJ needs to start reissuing stuff
Please, Pearl Jam, consider a Benaroya Hall vinyl reissue!
I guess the best way is to expect the worst possible scenario and be surprised if anything rare arrives. In my case, I'll just expect to get Lightning Bolt Black and the 2012 X-Mas Single. I have friends I could give them to as gifts.
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Regardless, I still love this opportunity to get some out-of-print material at a very reasonable price to listen, feel and experience while knowing that is more likely than not of getting a black Backspacer + 2011 Christmas single.
5 more days!
Though I still believe these Mystery Vinyls will be capped 1 per mailing address. More then 1 shipped to the same mailing address will be canceled.
I resorted everything based on PJ vs. Other and tried my best to put things inline with their release time-frame.
Just my $0.02 so take it for what it is worth.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Cpe-e6O0pm0WinLlsjbga7H_y6bizXYPc0Gz-aAmyno/edit?usp=sharing
If I remember right, what has maybe gotten me the last few times is when you hit proceed to checkout. The next page you have to enter your shipping. Hitting continue before the shipping cost shows up puts you in a loop if I remember right. When you do this at a normal time like now, it comes up in like half a second. When the system is lagged, it takes a while. I'll tyr to wait this time and see what happens. This might have affected others as well.
But like another poster, hopefully it takes a while like the mystery boxes due to the price. Those boxes hung around for a week or so if I remember right.
The way I see it, it'd be pretty easy for PJ to release exact quantities of how many of each product they have. To know that a product had between five and ten in stock, they'd need to know that there are seven in total. In that case, there's probably a reason they're giving the range - and that's likely to round up where convenient (rare products), and round down where inconvenient (commodity-like products). In that case, I'd guess a game being played, and likely the odds of getting a commodity-like item are greater than even our most conservative estimates, and the odds of getting a rarer item are less than our most conservative estimates.
Going through engineering has left me entirely skeptical about numbers and their true meanings: too often, we think of numbers as 'firm' and 'without bias', but their presentations do change those all the time.
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
That being said, I still always sign up. Its worth the extra $25 to know for sure that I didn't get the Benny than to wonder...
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Now.. what is with all the Benaroual talk, why is that the one a lot posters want? Is it the collect- ability or the actual performance that is sought?
Love the "this is what I want" posts... here's mine and maybe we could keep this up.
3 LP's I would love to land... plus 2 honorable mentions:
Lost Dogs
Avocado "Self Titled"
Mad Season
Coke Bottle Ten
Yield
Single's:
Sevens box set
2003 Annual 7" single
Mother Love Bone "Hold Your Head Up"
Mad Season River of Deceit
Merkin Ball
You see the only LP of PJ's I have is Vitalogy and I'm more into what I like rather then what is rare.
Lastly, Thank you to everyone that submitted an odds chart. Those are awesome and really get you thinking.
www.headstonesband.com
PJ needs to start reissuing stuff