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mace1229 said:HughFreakingDillon said:Man beats wife within an inch of her life, leaves the house
wife is shaken up, unsure what to do.
wife hears someone coming up the driveway, she panics, finds gun. it's dark, she assumes it's him
she comes outside, shoots and fires and kills the person in the driveway.
except it wasn't her husband. it was their neighbour.
who in this situation gets charged with the death of the neighbour, and goes to trial?
http://www.military-today.com/missiles/tor.htm
Many countries have combined military and civilian airports so it’s not inconceivable that the system was deployed near the civilian part of the airport. Also, many weapon system sales include training and advisors for a period of time or on contract. Quite possible that Putin on the ritz’s boys were there. Or, you have Iranian military afraid of consequences for not protecting the homeland if it was a US bombing mission. Team Trump Treason bears some responsibility, regardless. Particularly, if Hannity was spouting off.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Iran has invited all the countries who had citizenship onboard and Boeing to come and participate in an investigation.
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mickeyrat said:Iran has invited all the countries who had citizenship onboard and Boeing to come and participate in an investigation.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:mickeyrat said:Iran has invited all the countries who had citizenship onboard and Boeing to come and participate in an investigation.
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Halifax2TheMax said:mickeyrat said:Iran has invited all the countries who had citizenship onboard and Boeing to come and participate in an investigation.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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Halifax2TheMax said:mickeyrat said:Iran has invited all the countries who had citizenship onboard and Boeing to come and participate in an investigation.0
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mcgruff10 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mickeyrat said:Iran has invited all the countries who had citizenship onboard and Boeing to come and participate in an investigation.
“Following international protocol, Iran's civil aviation authority officials will lead the investigation into the crash, while Canada's Transportation Safety Board has appointed a Canadian expert to receive and review information from the probe.”
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mrussel1 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mickeyrat said:Iran has invited all the countries who had citizenship onboard and Boeing to come and participate in an investigation.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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1ThoughtKnown said:mcgruff10 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mickeyrat said:Iran has invited all the countries who had citizenship onboard and Boeing to come and participate in an investigation.
“Following international protocol, Iran's civil aviation authority officials will lead the investigation into the crash, while Canada's Transportation Safety Board has appointed a Canadian expert to receive and review information from the probe.”
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Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:HughFreakingDillon said:Man beats wife within an inch of her life, leaves the house
wife is shaken up, unsure what to do.
wife hears someone coming up the driveway, she panics, finds gun. it's dark, she assumes it's him
she comes outside, shoots and fires and kills the person in the driveway.
except it wasn't her husband. it was their neighbour.
who in this situation gets charged with the death of the neighbour, and goes to trial?
http://www.military-today.com/missiles/tor.htm
Many countries have combined military and civilian airports so it’s not inconceivable that the system was deployed near the civilian part of the airport. Also, many weapon system sales include training and advisors for a period of time or on contract. Quite possible that Putin on the ritz’s boys were there. Or, you have Iranian military afraid of consequences for not protecting the homeland if it was a US bombing mission. Team Trump Treason bears some responsibility, regardless. Particularly, if Hannity was spouting off.a known commercial flight taking off from tehrans airport.my suspicion is it could very well be regime opposition group(s) within Iran seeking to make them look bad or force some kind of international military response to elicit regime change....._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:HughFreakingDillon said:Man beats wife within an inch of her life, leaves the house
wife is shaken up, unsure what to do.
wife hears someone coming up the driveway, she panics, finds gun. it's dark, she assumes it's him
she comes outside, shoots and fires and kills the person in the driveway.
except it wasn't her husband. it was their neighbour.
who in this situation gets charged with the death of the neighbour, and goes to trial?
http://www.military-today.com/missiles/tor.htm
Many countries have combined military and civilian airports so it’s not inconceivable that the system was deployed near the civilian part of the airport. Also, many weapon system sales include training and advisors for a period of time or on contract. Quite possible that Putin on the ritz’s boys were there. Or, you have Iranian military afraid of consequences for not protecting the homeland if it was a US bombing mission. Team Trump Treason bears some responsibility, regardless. Particularly, if Hannity was spouting off.a known commercial flight taking off from tehrans airport.my suspicion is it could very well be regime opposition group(s) within Iran seeking to make them look bad or force some kind of international military response to elicit regime change.....0 -
mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:mace1229 said:HughFreakingDillon said:Man beats wife within an inch of her life, leaves the house
wife is shaken up, unsure what to do.
wife hears someone coming up the driveway, she panics, finds gun. it's dark, she assumes it's him
she comes outside, shoots and fires and kills the person in the driveway.
except it wasn't her husband. it was their neighbour.
who in this situation gets charged with the death of the neighbour, and goes to trial?
http://www.military-today.com/missiles/tor.htm
Many countries have combined military and civilian airports so it’s not inconceivable that the system was deployed near the civilian part of the airport. Also, many weapon system sales include training and advisors for a period of time or on contract. Quite possible that Putin on the ritz’s boys were there. Or, you have Iranian military afraid of consequences for not protecting the homeland if it was a US bombing mission. Team Trump Treason bears some responsibility, regardless. Particularly, if Hannity was spouting off.a known commercial flight taking off from tehrans airport.my suspicion is it could very well be regime opposition group(s) within Iran seeking to make them look bad or force some kind of international military response to elicit regime change.....09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I wouldn't be surprised if more video surfaces. Does Iran have ring doorbell? If this happened outside of LAX there would be approximately 800,000 videos on the internet right now.Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0
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gimmesometruth27 said:1ThoughtKnown said:gimmesometruth27 said:tempo_n_groove said:dignin said:tempo_n_groove said:tbergs said:tempo_n_groove said:dignin said:.
Like the Malaysia plane that was shot down over Ukraine by the Russians. Guess that never happened either.
Or when the Americans shot down that plane in Iran. That never happened either.
You can give Trump a pass, but I won't. Irresponsible actions will have irresponsible consequences.dignin said:tempo_n_groove said:
Like the Malaysia plane that was shot down over Ukraine by the Russians. Guess that never happened either.
Or when the Americans shot down that plane in Iran. That never happened either.
You can give Trump a pass, but I won't. Irresponsible actions will have irresponsible consequences.
I agree with you but sorry, Trump shouldn't be blamed.
Obama should be blamed then for the Iran nuclear deal because he should have been smart enough with future visions of this happening so shame on him.
See how stupid this all sounds?
Regardless, our PM sure was hinting in a press conference that he thinks that America shares some blame. Never outright said it. I guess the reporters asking those questions must be stupid too.
I only defend what should be obvious. You have a whole slew of reporters that can't stand Trump. You think for a second that if they can make some sort of connection in the slightest to blame him for something they won't?
That's not smart that's brilliantly biased.
he is the commander in chief. he gets the glory when things go right, correct? just like a quarterback. who gets the blame when things go bad? the quarterback. trump is the president. the buck stops with him. period. all of this is trump's fault. he tore up the iran deal that was working well. trump blew up a high ranking general when he did not have to. this provoked the retaliation from iran. a plane was downed. trump knocked down the first domino in the line. everything that happens after that initial move is all trump's responsibility. fuck trump. he needs to go to the hague.
i am just sick to death of people defending the indefensible.
we had other options. we could have used diplomacy. we could have used sanctions. we would have put further restrictions in place. we could have done small military engagements. we could have done a targeted assassination of a high ranking official with a drone. we could have used a nuke.
fucking moron chose to forego the other routes and blow up the general because he wants to be a war hero. i am disgusted that people would defend this choice. it is easy in hindsight to condemn him, but WHO IN THE HELL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HAVING THE FORESIGHT TO PREDICT THE RESPONSE AND FOLLOWING ACTIONS?? THE FUCKING MILITARY BRASS.
i blame him for the bullshit he pulls. day in and fucking day out. but fuck if i'm just going to jump on the bandwagon every single goddamn time something goes wrong that even sniffs of him. yes, he fucked up. he fucked up royally. yes, he started this. but he didn't pull the trigger on that civilian plane. iran did.
blame isn't 100% on either party here.
i 100% blame him and his advisers for the assassination. that shit disgusts me. but not everything that follows after is 100% attributable to any one person.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
1ThoughtKnown said:HughFreakingDillon said:how is the alleged stance by our favourite rock band relevant to this? do your formulate all your opinions based on the teachings of The Almighty Vedder?
again, do you formulate all your opinions based on what you think the band would think? and you call other people sheep?Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
1ThoughtKnown said:HughFreakingDillon said:1ThoughtKnown said:HughFreakingDillon said:having loved ones on the plane doesn't change common sense.
is it possible? of course, anything is. maybe obama fired the missile from his home in kenya. but it's clearly not the answer that makes the most sense.I knew this would be a shitshow... only it isn’t funny anymore. Peoples lives are at stake, including yours. But if you want to make excuses, you go right ahead. I’m not taking this shit lying down.
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for the record: i don't believe there are any of trump's people in this thread at the moment. just people with opposing views attempting to have an adult conversation. not everyone you disagree with is a trump supporter. it blows me away that this keeps having to be said 3 years in.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Jason P said:I wouldn't be surprised if more video surfaces. Does Iran have ring doorbell? If this happened outside of LAX there would be approximately 800,000 videos on the internet right now.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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HughFreakingDillon said:Jason P said:I wouldn't be surprised if more video surfaces. Does Iran have ring doorbell? If this happened outside of LAX there would be approximately 800,000 videos on the internet right now.
I figure Ring Doorbell is probably not an option due to Amazon probably being restricted. But I imagine the citizens are like everyone else and probably invest in home surveillance. And you have to figure everyone was peaking out their windows with cell phones in hand. How many people live in Tehran?Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0 -
1ThoughtKnown said:tbergs said:This rivalry escalated swiftly...I don’t dislike anyone, but I’m not backing down on this. That asshole is responsible for this.Period.
i don't recall having it out before with you, but i'll take your word for it. i suppose that explains it.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:1ThoughtKnown said:HughFreakingDillon said:1ThoughtKnown said:HughFreakingDillon said:having loved ones on the plane doesn't change common sense.
is it possible? of course, anything is. maybe obama fired the missile from his home in kenya. but it's clearly not the answer that makes the most sense.I knew this would be a shitshow... only it isn’t funny anymore. Peoples lives are at stake, including yours. But if you want to make excuses, you go right ahead. I’m not taking this shit lying down.
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for the record: i don't believe there are any of trump's people in this thread at the moment. just people with opposing views attempting to have an adult conversation. not everyone you disagree with is a trump supporter. it blows me away that this keeps having to be said 3 years in.Your initial response was typically smug and while most times I ignore you, as I mentioned earlier, I’ve reached the end of my rope with Trump and I’m fired up. I don’t need anymore evidence to blame him for this and I certainly don’t need anyone to tell me it’s “quite a leap” to blame Trump for it.0
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