Iran Deal, the reset..... and halt
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Great questiondignin said:
Why is it you always use hyperbole?HughFreakingDillon said:why is it if anyone makes a comment that in any way doesn't want to put trump to death, they are automatically biased/supporter/uninformed/etc?0 -
it accomplishes zero. it wasn't on purpose.mrussel1 said:
What's the value or upside of Iran shooting down a plane, with no Americans, in its own airspace, leaving from Tehran? What does that accomplish?1ThoughtKnown said:https://www.google.ca/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/politics/2020/1/9/1_4759850.htmlDiplomacy is to say “it may have been unintentional” so you can get access to the black box. Dollars to doughnuts it wasn’t unintentional. Once again, this doesn’t happen if Trump isn’t a complete meat stick.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
The foreigners on the plane. Retaliation. On NATO allies.... is this that hard to fathom?mrussel1 said:
What's the value or upside of Iran shooting down a plane, with no Americans, in its own airspace, leaving from Tehran? What does that accomplish?1ThoughtKnown said:https://www.google.ca/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/politics/2020/1/9/1_4759850.htmlDiplomacy is to say “it may have been unintentional” so you can get access to the black box. Dollars to doughnuts it wasn’t unintentional. Once again, this doesn’t happen if Trump isn’t a complete meat stick.Post edited by 1ThoughtKnown on0 -
people use language, sometimes strong language, to make a point.1ThoughtKnown said:
Great questiondignin said:
Why is it you always use hyperbole?HughFreakingDillon said:why is it if anyone makes a comment that in any way doesn't want to put trump to death, they are automatically biased/supporter/uninformed/etc?
clear now?Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
I think you are dead wrong. Someone read the radar wrong, got nervous and gave the command to fire an anti-aircraft missile.1ThoughtKnown said:
The foreigners on the plane. Retaliation.... is this the that hard to fathom?mrussel1 said:
What's the value or upside of Iran shooting down a plane, with no Americans, in its own airspace, leaving from Tehran? What does that accomplish?1ThoughtKnown said:https://www.google.ca/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/politics/2020/1/9/1_4759850.htmlDiplomacy is to say “it may have been unintentional” so you can get access to the black box. Dollars to doughnuts it wasn’t unintentional. Once again, this doesn’t happen if Trump isn’t a complete meat stick.
I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
iranian #1: hmmm, now what is the plan again for american aggression?
iranian #2: let's murder a bunch of their innocent civilian friends! that'll teach them!
iranian #1: great plan!
if that indeed turns out to be their plan, which I'm certain it won't, it's a pretty fucking stupid one.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
It's hard to fathom when currently not one nation (maybe Israel?) has stood with us on this issue, and no Americans were on the plane. And there were Iranians on it. Why would they shoot at Ukes, Brits, and Canadians in this scenario? I'm not saying it's impossible, but it also doesn't appear to further their goals. They have a vested interest in keeping Europe neutral and quiet on the whole conflict.1ThoughtKnown said:
The foreigners on the plane. Retaliation.... is this the that hard to fathom?mrussel1 said:
What's the value or upside of Iran shooting down a plane, with no Americans, in its own airspace, leaving from Tehran? What does that accomplish?1ThoughtKnown said:https://www.google.ca/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/politics/2020/1/9/1_4759850.htmlDiplomacy is to say “it may have been unintentional” so you can get access to the black box. Dollars to doughnuts it wasn’t unintentional. Once again, this doesn’t happen if Trump isn’t a complete meat stick.0 -
Actually, it’s uneducated American voters fault. Actually it’s the Americans insane celebrity-fascination is to blame. Actually it’s the Democrats fault for putting Clinton against him. Actually it’s the decline of the American education system fault. Actually it’s the fault of the Republicans for the constant de- regulation which caused the wealth gap which resulted in job less which led to populist sentiment which led to desperate people voting for a maniac.tempo_n_groove said:
It's Trumps fault, shut up...mrussel1 said:
What's the value or upside of Iran shooting down a plane, with no Americans, in its own airspace, leaving from Tehran? What does that accomplish?1ThoughtKnown said:https://www.google.ca/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/politics/2020/1/9/1_4759850.htmlDiplomacy is to say “it may have been unintentional” so you can get access to the black box. Dollars to doughnuts it wasn’t unintentional. Once again, this doesn’t happen if Trump isn’t a complete meat stick.
If one of your loved ones was on that plane you would be singing a different fuckin tune...0 -
Anyways.... I know where the boys in PJ would stand on this... and they will tell us all during the spring tour. If you want to say none of this is Trumps fault, that’s your right. I think you are all just sheep.I’m out.0
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having loved ones on the plane doesn't change common sense.
is it possible? of course, anything is. maybe obama fired the missile from his home in kenya. but it's clearly not the answer that makes the most sense.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
how is the alleged stance by our favourite rock band relevant to this? do your formulate all your opinions based on the teachings of The Almighty Vedder?Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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To add, who cares what members of Pearl Jam think? I don’t make my opinion based on what Ed says at a show.HughFreakingDillon said:how is the alleged stance by our favourite rock band relevant to this? do your formulate all your opinions based on the teachings of The Almighty Vedder?
I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
I know some don't want this video shared (no idea why) but I see no problem with sharing it. If you don't want to see it, don't watch it. Every action has a consequence.
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1215370845637500928
Personally I see no motive for Iran to do this on purpose.
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Dude, I told you earlier, your opinion doesn’t matter to me. I’m here to vent about Trump. I’ve paid attention since day one and PREDICTED HE WOULD WIN the presidency.HughFreakingDillon said:having loved ones on the plane doesn't change common sense.
is it possible? of course, anything is. maybe obama fired the missile from his home in kenya. but it's clearly not the answer that makes the most sense.I knew this would be a shitshow... only it isn’t funny anymore. Peoples lives are at stake, including yours. But if you want to make excuses, you go right ahead. I’m not taking this shit lying down.0 -
It’s a Pearl Jam forum knucklehead lmaoHughFreakingDillon said:how is the alleged stance by our favourite rock band relevant to this? do your formulate all your opinions based on the teachings of The Almighty Vedder?0 -
One of the reasons I was drawn to the band in the first place was their social conscience. Of being good to each other. Of spreading love and good will. AND they make great music. I share their vision of a better world.mcgruff10 said:
To add, who cares what members of Pearl Jam think? I don’t make my opinion based on what Ed says at a show.HughFreakingDillon said:how is the alleged stance by our favourite rock band relevant to this? do your formulate all your opinions based on the teachings of The Almighty Vedder?Don’t make an opinion on what the band thinks, it’s a free world dude. I was just stating a fact.0 -
this attempt to keep from blaming trump is a joke, right?tempo_n_groove said:
If it was common sense then most people would have it but people blindly blame Trump for literally everything.dignin said:
Use common sense, his actions are way more direct than that. As always, bending over backwards to defend him.tempo_n_groove said:tbergs said:
Right? I completely agree. Trump should have never been allowed to be a president.tempo_n_groove said:
These type of mistakes should NEVER happen. Wrong people in charge of things.dignin said:
Yeah, mistakes are never made in the fog of war. Is that what you are trying to say?.
Like the Malaysia plane that was shot down over Ukraine by the Russians. Guess that never happened either.
Or when the Americans shot down that plane in Iran. That never happened either.
You can give Trump a pass, but I won't. Irresponsible actions will have irresponsible consequences.
2 peas in a pod...dignin said:
I agree, Trump shouldn't be in charge of anything.tempo_n_groove said:
These type of mistakes should NEVER happen. Wrong people in charge of things.
Yeah, mistakes are never made in the fog of war. Is that what you are trying to say?
Like the Malaysia plane that was shot down over Ukraine by the Russians. Guess that never happened either.
Or when the Americans shot down that plane in Iran. That never happened either.
You can give Trump a pass, but I won't. Irresponsible actions will have irresponsible consequences.
I agree with you but sorry, Trump shouldn't be blamed.
Obama should be blamed then for the Iran nuclear deal because he should have been smart enough with future visions of this happening so shame on him.
See how stupid this all sounds?
Regardless, our PM sure was hinting in a press conference that he thinks that America shares some blame. Never outright said it. I guess the reporters asking those questions must be stupid too.
I only defend what should be obvious. You have a whole slew of reporters that can't stand Trump. You think for a second that if they can make some sort of connection in the slightest to blame him for something they won't?
That's not smart that's brilliantly biased.
he is the commander in chief. he gets the glory when things go right, correct? just like a quarterback. who gets the blame when things go bad? the quarterback. trump is the president. the buck stops with him. period. all of this is trump's fault. he tore up the iran deal that was working well. trump blew up a high ranking general when he did not have to. this provoked the retaliation from iran. a plane was downed. trump knocked down the first domino in the line. everything that happens after that initial move is all trump's responsibility. fuck trump. he needs to go to the hague."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
Love it. Fight for what you believe. Couldn’t agree more with everything you posted.gimmesometruth27 said:
this attempt to keep from blaming trump is a joke, right?tempo_n_groove said:
If it was common sense then most people would have it but people blindly blame Trump for literally everything.dignin said:
Use common sense, his actions are way more direct than that. As always, bending over backwards to defend him.tempo_n_groove said:tbergs said:
Right? I completely agree. Trump should have never been allowed to be a president.tempo_n_groove said:
These type of mistakes should NEVER happen. Wrong people in charge of things.dignin said:
Yeah, mistakes are never made in the fog of war. Is that what you are trying to say?.
Like the Malaysia plane that was shot down over Ukraine by the Russians. Guess that never happened either.
Or when the Americans shot down that plane in Iran. That never happened either.
You can give Trump a pass, but I won't. Irresponsible actions will have irresponsible consequences.
2 peas in a pod...dignin said:
I agree, Trump shouldn't be in charge of anything.tempo_n_groove said:
These type of mistakes should NEVER happen. Wrong people in charge of things.
Yeah, mistakes are never made in the fog of war. Is that what you are trying to say?
Like the Malaysia plane that was shot down over Ukraine by the Russians. Guess that never happened either.
Or when the Americans shot down that plane in Iran. That never happened either.
You can give Trump a pass, but I won't. Irresponsible actions will have irresponsible consequences.
I agree with you but sorry, Trump shouldn't be blamed.
Obama should be blamed then for the Iran nuclear deal because he should have been smart enough with future visions of this happening so shame on him.
See how stupid this all sounds?
Regardless, our PM sure was hinting in a press conference that he thinks that America shares some blame. Never outright said it. I guess the reporters asking those questions must be stupid too.
I only defend what should be obvious. You have a whole slew of reporters that can't stand Trump. You think for a second that if they can make some sort of connection in the slightest to blame him for something they won't?
That's not smart that's brilliantly biased.
he is the commander in chief. he gets the glory when things go right, correct? just like a quarterback. who gets the blame when things go bad? the quarterback. trump is the president. the buck stops with him. period. all of this is trump's fault. he tore up the iran deal that was working well. trump blew up a high ranking general when he did not have to. this provoked the retaliation from iran. a plane was downed. trump knocked down the first domino in the line. everything that happens after that initial move is all trump's responsibility. fuck trump. he needs to go to the hague.0 -
how do we know it was an iranian?mrussel1 said:
What's the value or upside of Iran shooting down a plane, with no Americans, in its own airspace, leaving from Tehran? What does that accomplish?1ThoughtKnown said:https://www.google.ca/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/politics/2020/1/9/1_4759850.htmlDiplomacy is to say “it may have been unintentional” so you can get access to the black box. Dollars to doughnuts it wasn’t unintentional. Once again, this doesn’t happen if Trump isn’t a complete meat stick.
are russian special forces in the region?
i find it hard to believe that some rogue iranian platoon would shoot down a commercial airliner. what is the motive in that? who benefits?"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
They purposefully fired the missile, just didn't hit what they thought. Either way, I doubt we'll ever know all the details or the whole truth.dignin said:I know some don't want this video shared (no idea why) but I see no problem with sharing it. If you don't want to see it, don't watch it. Every action has a consequence.
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1215370845637500928
Personally I see no motive for Iran to do this on purpose.
It's a hopeless situation...0
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