Iran Deal, the reset..... and halt
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gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:1ThoughtKnown said:https://www.google.ca/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/politics/2020/1/9/1_4759850.htmlDiplomacy is to say “it may have been unintentional” so you can get access to the black box. Dollars to doughnuts it wasn’t unintentional. Once again, this doesn’t happen if Trump isn’t a complete meat stick.
are russian special forces in the region?
i find it hard to believe that some rogue iranian platoon would shoot down a commercial airliner. what is the motive in that? who benefits?
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tbergs said:dignin said:I know some don't want this video shared (no idea why) but I see no problem with sharing it. If you don't want to see it, don't watch it. Every action has a consequence.
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1215370845637500928
Personally I see no motive for Iran to do this on purpose.
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gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:1ThoughtKnown said:https://www.google.ca/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/politics/2020/1/9/1_4759850.htmlDiplomacy is to say “it may have been unintentional” so you can get access to the black box. Dollars to doughnuts it wasn’t unintentional. Once again, this doesn’t happen if Trump isn’t a complete meat stick.
are russian special forces in the region?
i find it hard to believe that some rogue iranian platoon would shoot down a commercial airliner. what is the motive in that? who benefits?Detroit 2000, Detroit 2003 1-2, Grand Rapids VFC 2004, Philly 2005, Grand Rapids 2006, Detroit 2006, Cleveland 2006, Lollapalooza 2007, Detroit Eddie Solo 2011, Detroit 2014, Chicago 2016 1-2, Chicago 2018 1-2, Ohana Encore 2021 1-2, Chicago Eddie/Earthlings 2022 1-2, Nashville 2022, St. Louis 2022
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someone has to admit fault for this.
at this point, not to knock our military, but i would not be surprised in the least if we accidently shot it down. i have zero confidence in our military brass. the brass follows orders from the buffoon in chief without question, so i have lost respect for the brass."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:Man beats wife within an inch of her life, leaves the house
wife is shaken up, unsure what to do.
wife hears someone coming up the driveway, she panics, finds gun. it's dark, she assumes it's him
she comes outside, shoots and fires and kills the person in the driveway.
except it wasn't her husband. it was their neighbour.
who in this situation gets charged with the death of the neighbour, and goes to trial?0 -
gimmesometruth27 said:someone has to admit fault for this.
at this point, not to knock our military, but i would not be surprised in the least if we accidently shot it down. i have zero confidence in our military brass. the brass follows orders from the buffoon in chief without question, so i have lost respect for the brass.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
1ThoughtKnown said:gimmesometruth27 said:tempo_n_groove said:dignin said:tempo_n_groove said:tbergs said:tempo_n_groove said:dignin said:.
Like the Malaysia plane that was shot down over Ukraine by the Russians. Guess that never happened either.
Or when the Americans shot down that plane in Iran. That never happened either.
You can give Trump a pass, but I won't. Irresponsible actions will have irresponsible consequences.dignin said:tempo_n_groove said:
Like the Malaysia plane that was shot down over Ukraine by the Russians. Guess that never happened either.
Or when the Americans shot down that plane in Iran. That never happened either.
You can give Trump a pass, but I won't. Irresponsible actions will have irresponsible consequences.
I agree with you but sorry, Trump shouldn't be blamed.
Obama should be blamed then for the Iran nuclear deal because he should have been smart enough with future visions of this happening so shame on him.
See how stupid this all sounds?
Regardless, our PM sure was hinting in a press conference that he thinks that America shares some blame. Never outright said it. I guess the reporters asking those questions must be stupid too.
I only defend what should be obvious. You have a whole slew of reporters that can't stand Trump. You think for a second that if they can make some sort of connection in the slightest to blame him for something they won't?
That's not smart that's brilliantly biased.
he is the commander in chief. he gets the glory when things go right, correct? just like a quarterback. who gets the blame when things go bad? the quarterback. trump is the president. the buck stops with him. period. all of this is trump's fault. he tore up the iran deal that was working well. trump blew up a high ranking general when he did not have to. this provoked the retaliation from iran. a plane was downed. trump knocked down the first domino in the line. everything that happens after that initial move is all trump's responsibility. fuck trump. he needs to go to the hague.
i am just sick to death of people defending the indefensible.
we had other options. we could have used diplomacy. we could have used sanctions. we would have put further restrictions in place. we could have done small military engagements. we could have done a targeted assassination of a high ranking official with a drone. we could have used a nuke.
fucking moron chose to forego the other routes and blow up the general because he wants to be a war hero. i am disgusted that people would defend this choice. it is easy in hindsight to condemn him, but WHO IN THE HELL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HAVING THE FORESIGHT TO PREDICT THE RESPONSE AND FOLLOWING ACTIONS?? THE FUCKING MILITARY BRASS."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
mcgruff10 said:gimmesometruth27 said:someone has to admit fault for this.
at this point, not to knock our military, but i would not be surprised in the least if we accidently shot it down. i have zero confidence in our military brass. the brass follows orders from the buffoon in chief without question, so i have lost respect for the brass.
sorry i got confused. i thought the plane crashed within iraQ.
we have to have people on the ground over there.Post edited by gimmesometruth27 on"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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gimmesometruth27 said:mrussel1 said:1ThoughtKnown said:https://www.google.ca/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/politics/2020/1/9/1_4759850.htmlDiplomacy is to say “it may have been unintentional” so you can get access to the black box. Dollars to doughnuts it wasn’t unintentional. Once again, this doesn’t happen if Trump isn’t a complete meat stick.
are russian special forces in the region?
i find it hard to believe that some rogue iranian platoon would shoot down a commercial airliner. what is the motive in that? who benefits?0 -
He doesn't understand or believe in the constitution so what makes congress think their resolution will stop him?
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mcgruff10 said:gimmesometruth27 said:someone has to admit fault for this.
at this point, not to knock our military, but i would not be surprised in the least if we accidently shot it down. i have zero confidence in our military brass. the brass follows orders from the buffoon in chief without question, so i have lost respect for the brass.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
gimmesometruth27 said:mcgruff10 said:gimmesometruth27 said:someone has to admit fault for this.
at this point, not to knock our military, but i would not be surprised in the least if we accidently shot it down. i have zero confidence in our military brass. the brass follows orders from the buffoon in chief without question, so i have lost respect for the brass.
sorry i got confused. i thought the plane crashed within iraQ.
we have to have people on the ground over there.
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1ThoughtKnown said:HughFreakingDillon said:having loved ones on the plane doesn't change common sense.
is it possible? of course, anything is. maybe obama fired the missile from his home in kenya. but it's clearly not the answer that makes the most sense.I knew this would be a shitshow... only it isn’t funny anymore. Peoples lives are at stake, including yours. But if you want to make excuses, you go right ahead. I’m not taking this shit lying down.
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HughFreakingDillon said:1ThoughtKnown said:HughFreakingDillon said:having loved ones on the plane doesn't change common sense.
is it possible? of course, anything is. maybe obama fired the missile from his home in kenya. but it's clearly not the answer that makes the most sense.I knew this would be a shitshow... only it isn’t funny anymore. Peoples lives are at stake, including yours. But if you want to make excuses, you go right ahead. I’m not taking this shit lying down.
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This rivalry escalated swiftly...
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SO the Iranians apparently thought the plane was a response to their rocket attack and shot it down....Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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Wow 155 unread since this am, the politicos are almost as passionate as the tour rumor topic.0
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tbergs said:This rivalry escalated swiftly...I don’t dislike anyone, but I’m not backing down on this. That asshole is responsible for this.Period.Post edited by 1ThoughtKnown on0
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mcgruff10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:how is the alleged stance by our favourite rock band relevant to this? do your formulate all your opinions based on the teachings of The Almighty Vedder?.Words of Vedder =/= words in music of Pearl Jam?
I've always thought it’s less political position preached from behind the red and more a philosophy how we should treat each other and the planet.0
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