Indiana Religious Liberties law....

j1kotwic

Last-12-Exit said:

j1kotwic said:

I don't think this whole Indiana debacle has anything to do with discrimination. A business cannot refuse services to someone simply because of their religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, race, etc... This all started from the bakery that didn't want to make a cake for a gay wedding. The baker wasn't comfortable with providing services for an event that conflicts with his/her religious or moral beliefs. So go to another bakery. Boycott them. They'll probably go out of business. What that law was about was to give the business owner the right to defend their actions in court and nothing else. It doesn't make it legal to discriminate against gay people.

That's a cop out argument. It's still discrimination. I don't remember seeing anything in the bible about making a cake for a gay wedding.

You can word it however you want. The bottom line is that it's discrimination. And this law provides business's an Avenue to do it legally.

And you can word it however you want... Including saying you didn't see anything in the bible about gay wedding cakes.

It's not a cop out argument. It's not discrimination. Understand the law. This law in no way provides an avenue to discriminate. Discrimination is still illegal. So go ahead and pretend you are advocating for the rights of gay people. You are missing the point, in my opinion.

badbrains

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

Will this bakery be boycotted too and similar demonstrations against it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4

Of course they won't be boycotted. People only care about what christian conservatives do.

It never even occured to me to compartmentalize these bigots actually. In couldn't care less what religion is dictating their bigotry.

I don't understand why people keep bringing up gay rights in the middle east when discussing this btw. This is happen in America, where the laws actually are supposed to protect equality for all.

The guy in that video is full of shit btw.

Because that's BS's agenda. Blame everything on the fucken Muslims. Sun rises in the east sets in the west, blame the fucken Muslims. It's raining in jersey right now. Blame the fucken Muslims. You woke up with a headache, blame the Muslims. It's that time of month for some women, blame the fucken Muslims. Blah blah blah. Blame the fucken Muslims.

mickeyrat

If all that were true why amend the law to include antidiscrimination language?

BS44325

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

Will this bakery be boycotted too and similar demonstrations against it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4

Of course they won't be boycotted. People only care about what christian conservatives do.

It never even occured to me to compartmentalize these bigots actually. In couldn't care less what religion is dictating their bigotry.

I don't understand why people keep bringing up gay rights in the middle east when discussing this btw. This is happen in America, where the laws actually are supposed to protect equality for all.

The guy in that video is full of shit btw.

Because that's BS's agenda. Blame everything on the fucken Muslims. Sun rises in the east sets in the west, blame the fucken Muslims. It's raining in jersey right now. Blame the fucken Muslims. You woke up with a headache, blame the Muslims. It's that time of month for some women, blame the fucken Muslims. Blah blah blah. Blame the fucken Muslims.

You have soiled yourself

Dirtie_Frank

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

Will this bakery be boycotted too and similar demonstrations against it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4

Of course they won't be boycotted. People only care about what christian conservatives do.

It never even occured to me to compartmentalize these bigots actually. In couldn't care less what religion is dictating their bigotry.

I don't understand why people keep bringing up gay rights in the middle east when discussing this btw. This is happen in America, where the laws actually are supposed to protect equality for all.

The guy in that video is full of shit btw.

I just see the LGTB going after the easier target of Christians. Why not target all the religions that do not agree with their way of life?

PJ_Soul

Dirtie_Frank said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

Will this bakery be boycotted too and similar demonstrations against it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4

Of course they won't be boycotted. People only care about what christian conservatives do.

It never even occured to me to compartmentalize these bigots actually. In couldn't care less what religion is dictating their bigotry.

I don't understand why people keep bringing up gay rights in the middle east when discussing this btw. This is happen in America, where the laws actually are supposed to protect equality for all.

The guy in that video is full of shit btw.

I just see the LGTB going after the easier target of Christians. Why not target all the religions that do not agree with their way of life?

I think they do. But when there is an obvious main group who is most vocal about it, then that is naturally going to be who the LGBT are going to focus on most. In the US, that main vocal group is Christian.

Bentleyspop

Dirtie_Frank said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

Will this bakery be boycotted too and similar demonstrations against it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4

Of course they won't be boycotted. People only care about what christian conservatives do.

It never even occured to me to compartmentalize these bigots actually. In couldn't care less what religion is dictating their bigotry.

I don't understand why people keep bringing up gay rights in the middle east when discussing this btw. This is happen in America, where the laws actually are supposed to protect equality for all.

The guy in that video is full of shit btw.

I just see the LGTB going after the easier target of Christians. Why not target all the religions that do not agree with their way of life?

Comments like that make me wish that Prince of Dorkness still frequented these forums.

badbrains

BS44325 said:

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

Will this bakery be boycotted too and similar demonstrations against it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4

Of course they won't be boycotted. People only care about what christian conservatives do.

It never even occured to me to compartmentalize these bigots actually. In couldn't care less what religion is dictating their bigotry.

I don't understand why people keep bringing up gay rights in the middle east when discussing this btw. This is happen in America, where the laws actually are supposed to protect equality for all.

The guy in that video is full of shit btw.

Because that's BS's agenda. Blame everything on the fucken Muslims. Sun rises in the east sets in the west, blame the fucken Muslims. It's raining in jersey right now. Blame the fucken Muslims. You woke up with a headache, blame the Muslims. It's that time of month for some women, blame the fucken Muslims. Blah blah blah. Blame the fucken Muslims.

You have soiled yourself

Must be some lame ass Canadian joke. I soiled myself? Nah, not me, not my kind of fetish. Seems to be on your mind. And you also have shit in your screen name (bs). But I know, let's blame the Muslims.

Dirtie_Frank

Bentleyspop said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

Will this bakery be boycotted too and similar demonstrations against it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4

Of course they won't be boycotted. People only care about what christian conservatives do.

It never even occured to me to compartmentalize these bigots actually. In couldn't care less what religion is dictating their bigotry.

I don't understand why people keep bringing up gay rights in the middle east when discussing this btw. This is happen in America, where the laws actually are supposed to protect equality for all.

The guy in that video is full of shit btw.

I just see the LGTB going after the easier target of Christians. Why not target all the religions that do not agree with their way of life?

Comments like that make me wish that Prince of Dorkness still frequented these forums.

How So?

rgambs

j1kotwic said:

Last-12-Exit said:

j1kotwic said:

I don't think this whole Indiana debacle has anything to do with discrimination. A business cannot refuse services to someone simply because of their religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, race, etc... This all started from the bakery that didn't want to make a cake for a gay wedding. The baker wasn't comfortable with providing services for an event that conflicts with his/her religious or moral beliefs. So go to another bakery. Boycott them. They'll probably go out of business. What that law was about was to give the business owner the right to defend their actions in court and nothing else. It doesn't make it legal to discriminate against gay people.

That's a cop out argument. It's still discrimination. I don't remember seeing anything in the bible about making a cake for a gay wedding.

You can word it however you want. The bottom line is that it's discrimination. And this law provides business's an Avenue to do it legally.

And you can word it however you want... Including saying you didn't see anything in the bible about gay wedding cakes.

It's not a cop out argument. It's not discrimination. Understand the law. This law in no way provides an avenue to discriminate. Discrimination is still illegal. So go ahead and pretend you are advocating for the rights of gay people. You are missing the point, in my opinion.

Except you are wrong. Discrimination against sexual orientation is not illegal in Indiana. It provides an avenue to discriminate in protecting against civil suits based on discrimination.
So if it isn't against the law, and you can't be sued for it...sounds like an avenue to me!

Last-12-Exit

j1kotwic said:

Last-12-Exit said:

j1kotwic said:

I don't think this whole Indiana debacle has anything to do with discrimination. A business cannot refuse services to someone simply because of their religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, race, etc... This all started from the bakery that didn't want to make a cake for a gay wedding. The baker wasn't comfortable with providing services for an event that conflicts with his/her religious or moral beliefs. So go to another bakery. Boycott them. They'll probably go out of business. What that law was about was to give the business owner the right to defend their actions in court and nothing else. It doesn't make it legal to discriminate against gay people.

That's a cop out argument. It's still discrimination. I don't remember seeing anything in the bible about making a cake for a gay wedding.

You can word it however you want. The bottom line is that it's discrimination. And this law provides business's an Avenue to do it legally.

And you can word it however you want... Including saying you didn't see anything in the bible about gay wedding cakes.

It's not a cop out argument. It's not discrimination. Understand the law. This law in no way provides an avenue to discriminate. Discrimination is still illegal. So go ahead and pretend you are advocating for the rights of gay people. You are missing the point, in my opinion.

I understand the law clearly. It allows bigots not to get sued because they feel that a gay persons dollar will infect them in some way or infringe upon their right to believe in an invisible man in the sky.

You are missing the point, you can probably find it in the 1950s.

mickeyrat

the law has been amended already to include nondiscrimination language. So really the seeming intended intent has been neutered.

gimmesometruth27

mickeyrat said:

the law has been amended already to include nondiscrimination language. So really the seeming intended intent has been neutered.

indiana damaged the republican brand and got nothing out of it. they just pulled the teeth out of the law. fucking morons.

josevolution

I just love it when assholes like some of these Republicans do shit like this it just makes them look fucking pathetic ....

rgambs

josevolution said:

I just love it when assholes like some of these Republicans do shit like this it just makes them look fucking pathetic ....

Definitely... It makes it hard to imagine a Republican president. Of course, Hillary makes it a possibility lol shes a bit of a Romneyish character in that she doesn't have many friends among the moderates.

backseatLover12

rgambs said:

josevolution said:

I just love it when assholes like some of these Republicans do shit like this it just makes them look fucking pathetic ....

Definitely... It makes it hard to imagine a Republican president. Of course, Hillary makes it a possibility lol shes a bit of a Romneyish character in that she doesn't have many friends among the moderates.

The republican candidates will force people to flock to Hillary or whatever Dem rather than elect a nutso republican...

callen

PJ_Soul said:

callen said:

Smellyman said:

Weirdo republicans would love a theocracy.

Smelly, think they just pander for votes.

Dirtie_Frank said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

Will this bakery be boycotted too and similar demonstrations against it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4

Of course they won't be boycotted. People only care about what christian conservatives do.

It never even occured to me to compartmentalize these bigots actually. In couldn't care less what religion is dictating their bigotry.

I don't understand why people keep bringing up gay rights in the middle east when discussing this btw. This is happen in America, where the laws actually are supposed to protect equality for all.

The guy in that video is full of shit btw.

I just see the LGTB going after the easier target of Christians. Why not target all the religions that do not agree with their way of life?

Not just LGTB going after Christians, it's many Americans. This whole "gays are perverse and choose to be gay" is utterly nuts. Then how this all stinks of simple discrimination, many more Americans are chiming in with support. So it's not LGTB driven it's Human Decency driven.

Yes other religions/beliefs suck, but I'm American and I have to live with this shit and will call it out.

callen

Dirtie_Frank said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

Will this bakery be boycotted too and similar demonstrations against it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4

Of course they won't be boycotted. People only care about what christian conservatives do.

It never even occured to me to compartmentalize these bigots actually. In couldn't care less what religion is dictating their bigotry.

I don't understand why people keep bringing up gay rights in the middle east when discussing this btw. This is happen in America, where the laws actually are supposed to protect equality for all.

The guy in that video is full of shit btw.

I just see the LGTB going after the easier target of Christians. Why not target all the religions that do not agree with their way of life?

And you know Christians make themselves targets. Need to reassess what's important and maybe question their holy scripture.

rgambs

callen said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

Will this bakery be boycotted too and similar demonstrations against it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4

Of course they won't be boycotted. People only care about what christian conservatives do.

It never even occured to me to compartmentalize these bigots actually. In couldn't care less what religion is dictating their bigotry.

I don't understand why people keep bringing up gay rights in the middle east when discussing this btw. This is happen in America, where the laws actually are supposed to protect equality for all.

The guy in that video is full of shit btw.

I just see the LGTB going after the easier target of Christians. Why not target all the religions that do not agree with their way of life?

And you know Christians make themselves targets. Need to reassess what's important and maybe question their holy scripture.

This reminds me of a point I haven't seen addressed here or anywhere else. If Christian bigots weren't so vocal they could easily get away with discrimination. Don't want to provide service for a same-sex wedding? Just tell them you are booked! Weddings are time sensitive and usually seasonal, services get booked and people have to make other plans. Happens all the time, but, since Christians have to blab about their fables and their superiority so much, trouble arises.

Last-12-Exit

rgambs said:

callen said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

Will this bakery be boycotted too and similar demonstrations against it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4

Of course they won't be boycotted. People only care about what christian conservatives do.

It never even occured to me to compartmentalize these bigots actually. In couldn't care less what religion is dictating their bigotry.

I don't understand why people keep bringing up gay rights in the middle east when discussing this btw. This is happen in America, where the laws actually are supposed to protect equality for all.

The guy in that video is full of shit btw.

I just see the LGTB going after the easier target of Christians. Why not target all the religions that do not agree with their way of life?

And you know Christians make themselves targets. Need to reassess what's important and maybe question their holy scripture.

This reminds me of a point I haven't seen addressed here or anywhere else. If Christian bigots weren't so vocal they could easily get away with discrimination. Don't want to provide service for a same-sex wedding? Just tell them you are booked! Weddings are time sensitive and usually seasonal, services get booked and people have to make other plans. Happens all the time, but, since Christians have to blab about their fables and their superiority so much, trouble arises.

That's what I've told people. If you don't want to, dont. Just don't tell them no because they're gay. It's really that easy.