Layaway section in the shop?

DarthMaeglin

I was just stunned to find an item I wanted to get will cost almost double its value ($20 U.S.) for the shipping ($38 U.S., almost $60 U.S. total), plus the exchange rate, plus any duties paid at the border, lol...rethinking the purchase now, unfortunately, though I may go the route of getting it shipped to my U.S. family (I'm in Canada) then wait for them to get up to their cottage over the summer, lol...

Edit: Sorry, I know it's a bit off-topic, just felt the need to vent a touch, lol...

Red Lukin

Vault 4 was $50. Decent price for a quality product. With shipping it was $85. The exchange in Canada is now 1.3. With that and the possibility of 25% duty it's crazy how much things cost now. I can't blame them but does it really cost $35 to ship?

vzouzal

HesCalledDyer said:

What's so wrong about promoting an album with Target or being proud to win a Grammy for best recording package? "This ain't your father's Pearl Jam!" Yeah, this ain't 1995, either. Get over it.

True. Stardate is 2015. I guess I was under the belief that the boys were the stick to their guns type and not so hypocritical. Then again perhaps its all the company running their media presence fault?

DarthMaeglin

Yeah, I was (possibly still, lol) ordering a book, which I get is a heavier item, and shipping's in part based on weight. Frustrating all the same, though I'm even more stunned at $85 for shipping (I presume) a vinyl multiple LP, wow.

on2legs

vzouzal said:

Since the shop is now like a TJ Maxx, with a clearance section, I was wondering if a layaway section is in the works?
Honestly between the shop, "mystery box's" ,trading cards wtf? , videos for Target and being so enamoured with the Grammy for best packaging, the once mighty and proud PJ has certainly changed. And change is fine by me, evolution is inevitable, but not all change is necessary or desirable.
I will always love the music, because the music is pure. But this ugly marketing machine is starting to play on my last nerve.

***************SPOILER ALERT********************
For those younger fans just discovering the band, this ain't your Fathers Pearl Jam!

I love when the cool self righteous people make an appearance.

darthvedder

PRAMG

You forgot to mention playing the Oracle thing.

vzouzal

on2legs said:

vzouzal said:

Since the shop is now like a TJ Maxx, with a clearance section, I was wondering if a layaway section is in the works?
Honestly between the shop, "mystery box's" ,trading cards wtf? , videos for Target and being so enamoured with the Grammy for best packaging, the once mighty and proud PJ has certainly changed. And change is fine by me, evolution is inevitable, but not all change is necessary or desirable.
I will always love the music, because the music is pure. But this ugly marketing machine is starting to play on my last nerve.

***************SPOILER ALERT********************
For those younger fans just discovering the band, this ain't your Fathers Pearl Jam!

I love when the cool self righteous people make an appearance.

I was unaware opinions were "cool", but if that's the case, cool! I apologize if my negative opinions regarding Pearl Jam offended you. If it makes you feel any better, they are and always will be my favourite band. I just feel like they have completely pulled a 360 over the past 5-7 years and it has surprised so much, that I felt compelled to make a little noise.

JV130312

Just use a credit card. Next thread?

iOnlyownMymind

Well there's plenty of people quick to jump on this guy or anyone who voices something negative that they feel but I think vzouzal is more or less right. I guess the band is trying to stay up with today's world which is fine but I do think it's gone a bit overboard as well. I pretty much avoid the majority of it though.

FoxyRedLa

Isn't PJ aiming to please? Who asks for all this merch? And variety?

on2legs

vzouzal said:

on2legs said:

vzouzal said:

Since the shop is now like a TJ Maxx, with a clearance section, I was wondering if a layaway section is in the works?
Honestly between the shop, "mystery box's" ,trading cards wtf? , videos for Target and being so enamoured with the Grammy for best packaging, the once mighty and proud PJ has certainly changed. And change is fine by me, evolution is inevitable, but not all change is necessary or desirable.
I will always love the music, because the music is pure. But this ugly marketing machine is starting to play on my last nerve.

***************SPOILER ALERT********************
For those younger fans just discovering the band, this ain't your Fathers Pearl Jam!

I love when the cool self righteous people make an appearance.

I was unaware opinions were "cool", but if that's the case, cool! I apologize if my negative opinions regarding Pearl Jam offended you. If it makes you feel any better, they are and always will be my favourite band. I just feel like they have completely pulled a 360 over the past 5-7 years and it has surprised so much, that I felt compelled to make a little noise.

No offense taken. I actually like when the cool self righteous people arrive to lecture all of us.

HughFreakingDillon

vzouzal said:

HesCalledDyer said:

What's so wrong about promoting an album with Target or being proud to win a Grammy for best recording package? "This ain't your father's Pearl Jam!" Yeah, this ain't 1995, either. Get over it.

True. Stardate is 2015. I guess I was under the belief that the boys were the stick to their guns type and not so hypocritical. Then again perhaps its all the company running their media presence fault?

This "the band is hypocritical" line is getting so bloody lame. The fans denanded more merch for years. The band is filling the demand. Actually, not even close. The have filled it a bit with new stuff, but also a lot of their stuff is their "classic wear" that many fans didnt get the chance to get, and don't want to pay $100 for a 20 year old loose and flowing t shirt with pit stains. They paired with Target for distribution of their album, in exhange for some promotion. Thats what happens when you choose to not have a record contract. Would you prefer Santos ship out every single cd from now on?

They never railed against corporate america as a whole, only certain corporations that they felt were doing more harm than good.

Anyone who thinks this band has changed their general stance since 1990 doesn't understand the fundamentals of what they were against in the first place.

PJfanwillneverleave1

HughFreakingDillon said:

vzouzal said:

HesCalledDyer said:

What's so wrong about promoting an album with Target or being proud to win a Grammy for best recording package? "This ain't your father's Pearl Jam!" Yeah, this ain't 1995, either. Get over it.

True. Stardate is 2015. I guess I was under the belief that the boys were the stick to their guns type and not so hypocritical. Then again perhaps its all the company running their media presence fault?

Anyone who thinks this band has changed their general stance since 1990 doesn't understand the fundamentals of what they were against in the first place.

And the fundamentals of what they were against in the first place are?

Nami

Sweet 4 more payments and that sticker is mine....

tempo_n_groove

vzouzal said:

on2legs said:

vzouzal said:

Since the shop is now like a TJ Maxx, with a clearance section, I was wondering if a layaway section is in the works?
Honestly between the shop, "mystery box's" ,trading cards wtf? , videos for Target and being so enamoured with the Grammy for best packaging, the once mighty and proud PJ has certainly changed. And change is fine by me, evolution is inevitable, but not all change is necessary or desirable.
I will always love the music, because the music is pure. But this ugly marketing machine is starting to play on my last nerve.

***************SPOILER ALERT********************
For those younger fans just discovering the band, this ain't your Fathers Pearl Jam!

I love when the cool self righteous people make an appearance.

I was unaware opinions were "cool", but if that's the case, cool! I apologize if my negative opinions regarding Pearl Jam offended you. If it makes you feel any better, they are and always will be my favourite band. I just feel like they have completely pulled a 360 over the past 5-7 years and it has surprised so much, that I felt compelled to make a little noise.

If they did a 360 then they'd still be going in the same direction...

Sorry, had to say it...

mfc2006

quick take...
people ask for more merch
they sell more merch
and it's a cashgrab?
not trying to stir the pot, honestly ...just asking a question.

and to quote someone else in this thread...it's not 1991 & things have changed (for better or worse).....

so??

so.....
they post something in the shop...
if I don't like it, I don't buy it
If I do like it, maybe I buy it?

I missed out on Benny & bought the cd b/c my record player was broken. Now, I have to sell an organ to own that record. Is that their fault? Or mine? Or who gives a fuck?

If you see it & want it, get it. If not, move along. Pretty simple, really.

Or maybe I have not been in the "know" so long that I'm naive. If so, let me know.

Like others have said, the music is the most important. That, and the experiences I've had while seeing them live. The people I've met, etc, etc....

rambling post over.

cheers & be well,
Matt

High Fidelity 2000

DewieCox said:

I remember my first beer.

:lol

High Fidelity 2000

mfc2006 said:

quick take...
people ask for more merch
they sell more merch
and it's a cashgrab?
not trying to stir the pot, honestly ...just asking a question.

and to quote someone else in this thread...it's not 1991 & things have changed (for better or worse).....

so??

so.....
they post something in the shop...
if I don't like it, I don't buy it
If I do like it, maybe I buy it?

I missed out on Benny & bought the cd b/c my record player was broken. Now, I have to sell an organ to own that record. Is that their fault? Or mine? Or who gives a fuck?

If you see it & want it, get it. If not, move along. Pretty simple, really.

Or maybe I have not been in the "know" so long that I'm naive. If so, let me know.

Like others have said, the music is the most important. That, and the experiences I've had while seeing them live. The people I've met, etc, etc....

rambling post over.

cheers & be well,
Matt

Well... the $40 dog collars WERE a fuckin' cash grab. I don't see any other way to defend that one... pretty fucking lame, even more so than the Target commercial. They also have sold a LOT of ugly t-shirts the past few years since increasing mercy. I agree they used to have like 2 shirts for sale. Now they have a lot but they all kinda suck. Except Halloween 2014 shirt.

ldent42

The clearance section of TJ Maxx is the shit. I got a $5 two cup capacity French press from there which is fantastic for use when traveling. Those hotel room coffee makers are nasty.
The 10c clearance section got me 2 shirts & a poster for $50. And since many others took advantage of it probably cleared out a nice chunk of space in 10c HQ's warehouse.
I do kind of wonder, given the timing, if they decided to do this because people were complaining about the mystery boxes being a cash grab. So to reduce old stock they actually cataloged everything and put each individual item up in the shop at a steep discount rather than continue with the "grab bag" concept.

I also highly recommend the clearance section of old navy, particularly the big one in 34th st. My favorite summer hoodie came from there after getting caught in a freak storm nearby.

eddiec

TJ Maxx.......Pearl Jam....?.......ok, whatever. Great thread.