Pd, very good points made indeed. I think it comes down to respect, which u mentioned. I don't think anyone has any issues with people having their own beliefs. It's the whole, "fuck your god" disrespect thrown around. Btw, I love that song (APC). I have no issues with anyone believing in anything they want. Wether it's a god or lizard or even nothing. I understand some people say things to sound cool. And that's fine, but they can't expect to have people respect them, even though they claim they do care. But on your points Pd, I hear ya. And your question is pretty damn good about what would happen now if Jesus came now. Very damn good question.
absolutely - whilst I have zero belief unfortunately in anything other than the world around me, I wouldn't ever want to purposefully look to fly in the face of someone else's belief or spiritual figure. There really isn't any need to do that, but personally I don't put the gods above anyone else for obvious reasons. In the same way I wouldn't wish to insult peoples families I wouldn't equally look to do so with gods.....but that isn't because I think they are untouchable symbols and figureheads and the creators of the world. So yeah its a simple issue of respect, and to respect Mohammed doesn't mean you have to support what he was or did, just that he is clearly very very important to a lot of people.
Religion hasn't aged well with time, and in that sense its truly sad that it causes so much pain and misery, oppression and brutality. When the story of Adam and Eve came about and the 7 days creation of the world in Christianity - how would the people who started that story ever have known that thousands of years later we would be finding dinasaurs that predated human history by literally tens of millions of years.....
Yet despite that, the teachings and the stories remain, locked in a period of time that is so grossly out of kilter with many things we now know, and really its impossible to update them which is why priests, vicars and the likes, now prefer to focus on the meanings and teachings rather than the literal events, loose concepts that do when treat in that way still remain relevant to modern society.
It speaks volumes when the current pope embraces evolution and the big bang theory.....
Nart, this fight isn't worth having, I know you're bigger than that. In the real world you may be fighting ignorance on a massive scale across the USA, but on this board, the ignorants make up the minority, and you know you will always be defended here.
'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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100% Pd. How's this for being a Muslim. I'm starting a book on creationism called the 12th planet written by zecharia sitchen. Which goes against anything Islamic.
Thanks Ben, it's this damn sickness I have having to say something. I appreciate it Ben. When you coming to the city, the real city, not Toronto hahaha.
100% Pd. How's this for being a Muslim. I'm starting a book on creationism called the 12th planet written by zecharia sitchen. Which goes against anything Islamic.
That's awesome, you clearly keep an open mind when it comes to your faith, and live your life according to your own decisions and refuse to blindly follow a script. That I have every respect for.
Thanks Ben, it's this damn sickness I have having to say something. I appreciate it Ben. When you coming to the city, the real city, not Toronto hahaha.
I'll get there eventually! In the middle of a major project for our family company, but I'm hoping to treat myself to a little vacation when it's wrapped up. Probably July at this rate.
'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
100% Pd. How's this for being a Muslim. I'm starting a book on creationism called the 12th planet written by zecharia sitchen. Which goes against anything Islamic.
That's awesome, you clearly keep an open mind when it comes to your faith, and live your life according to your own decisions and refuse to blindly follow a script. That I have every respect for.
Maybe that's the problem with religion, is the absence of a disclaimer at the end of each and every holy book: "This book is meant to guide one through a noble life. This book does not condone harm or punishment for not belonging to, betraying, or for leaving, this faith. If you do choose to inflict harm or to punish for not belonging to, or leaving, this faith, you are acting alone, and not in the name of your faith".
'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
How can anyone in this day and age not right Pd? Just looking up at the sky my mind goes crazy. I love the unknown. Thank you for your respect. Goes a long way in my eyes.
Ben, you end up planning on coming to the city, hit me up. Katz's deli is on me my friend. Got to have it. And of course I'll take you to my pizza spot, pizza suprema. Damn, I'm getting hungry hahaha. You can come to Pd if you ever are in the city. I'll show you nyc pizza! Haha
How can anyone in this day and age not right Pd? Just looking up at the sky my mind goes crazy. I love the unknown. Thank you for your respect. Goes a long way in my eyes.
Ben, you end up planning on coming to the city, hit me up. Katz's deli is on me my friend. Got to have it. And of course I'll take you to my pizza spot, pizza suprema. Damn, I'm getting hungry hahaha. You can come to Pd if you ever are in the city. I'll show you nyc pizza! Haha
Awesome - I made myself a promise that the new time the boys are playing MSG Im coming
How can anyone in this day and age not right Pd? Just looking up at the sky my mind goes crazy. I love the unknown. Thank you for your respect. Goes a long way in my eyes.
Ben, you end up planning on coming to the city, hit me up. Katz's deli is on me my friend. Got to have it. And of course I'll take you to my pizza spot, pizza suprema. Damn, I'm getting hungry hahaha. You can come to Pd if you ever are in the city. I'll show you nyc pizza! Haha
Almost got squirly with the door bouncer last time at Katz. Dick head was all bent out of shape that my daughter threw out her ticket and he wouldn't let her leave.(We had no idea,no one tells you you need it to leave and it was our first time there)That got poppa bear all pissed off.I thought I would end up getting arrested after I gave it right back to him.He finally chilled when he realized I wasn't putting up with that shit or backing down.
Service was slow but the pastrami was outstanding and portions were large.
You forgot the closer of them all RR, Taco Bells Fiery Hard Shell taco supreme...drop those puppies on them knuckleheads and wil all wars will end...plus it will make toilet paper more valuable than gold...lol
This is an excellent point Musky.I did forget about" heading for the border".I would be neglect to not add The 5$ Bucket of fried shit from KFC also.
How can anyone in this day and age not right Pd? Just looking up at the sky my mind goes crazy. I love the unknown. Thank you for your respect. Goes a long way in my eyes.
Ben, you end up planning on coming to the city, hit me up. Katz's deli is on me my friend. Got to have it. And of course I'll take you to my pizza spot, pizza suprema. Damn, I'm getting hungry hahaha. You can come to Pd if you ever are in the city. I'll show you nyc pizza! Haha
Almost got squirly with the door bouncer last time at Katz. Dick head was all bent out of shape that my daughter threw out her ticket and he wouldn't let her leave.(We had no idea,no one tells you you need it to leave and it was our first time there)That got poppa bear all pissed off.I thought I would end up getting arrested after I gave it right back to him.He finally chilled when he realized I wasn't putting up with that shit or backing down.
Service was slow but the pastrami was outstanding and portions were large.
I think it's Katz's that my dad loves to share his infamous story from. He ordered a sandwich, and didn't want tongue on it, so asked for 'no tongue'. Had his sandwich, got the bill, and they charged him extra for a 'substitution'. He asked why this was the case, because he just asked for something removed, not swapped. Manager comes by, they get into a whole thing, and eventually the guy asks my dad where he's from. He says Canada. Manager says, 'go back'.
'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
How can anyone in this day and age not right Pd? Just looking up at the sky my mind goes crazy. I love the unknown. Thank you for your respect. Goes a long way in my eyes.
Ben, you end up planning on coming to the city, hit me up. Katz's deli is on me my friend. Got to have it. And of course I'll take you to my pizza spot, pizza suprema. Damn, I'm getting hungry hahaha. You can come to Pd if you ever are in the city. I'll show you nyc pizza! Haha
Almost got squirly with the door bouncer last time at Katz. Dick head was all bent out of shape that my daughter threw out her ticket and he wouldn't let her leave.(We had no idea,no one tells you you need it to leave and it was our first time there)That got poppa bear all pissed off.I thought I would end up getting arrested after I gave it right back to him.He finally chilled when he realized I wasn't putting up with that shit or backing down.
Service was slow but the pastrami was outstanding and portions were large.
I think it's Katz's that my dad loves to share his infamous story from. He ordered a sandwich, and didn't want tongue on it, so asked for 'no tongue'. Had his sandwich, got the bill, and they charged him extra for a 'substitution'. He asked why this was the case, because he just asked for something removed, not swapped. Manager comes by, they get into a whole thing, and eventually the guy asks my dad where he's from. He says Canada. Manager says, 'go back'.
How can anyone in this day and age not right Pd? Just looking up at the sky my mind goes crazy. I love the unknown. Thank you for your respect. Goes a long way in my eyes.
Ben, you end up planning on coming to the city, hit me up. Katz's deli is on me my friend. Got to have it. And of course I'll take you to my pizza spot, pizza suprema. Damn, I'm getting hungry hahaha. You can come to Pd if you ever are in the city. I'll show you nyc pizza! Haha
Almost got squirly with the door bouncer last time at Katz. Dick head was all bent out of shape that my daughter threw out her ticket and he wouldn't let her leave.(We had no idea,no one tells you you need it to leave and it was our first time there)That got poppa bear all pissed off.I thought I would end up getting arrested after I gave it right back to him.He finally chilled when he realized I wasn't putting up with that shit or backing down.
Service was slow but the pastrami was outstanding and portions were large.
I think it's Katz's that my dad loves to share his infamous story from. He ordered a sandwich, and didn't want tongue on it, so asked for 'no tongue'. Had his sandwich, got the bill, and they charged him extra for a 'substitution'. He asked why this was the case, because he just asked for something removed, not swapped. Manager comes by, they get into a whole thing, and eventually the guy asks my dad where he's from. He says Canada. Manager says, 'go back'.
So... I'm hearing don't go to Katz's.
I guess just don't go for the service. I hear the food's fantastic regardless. Not that NYC has any shortage of fantastic places to eat.
'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
How can anyone in this day and age not right Pd? Just looking up at the sky my mind goes crazy. I love the unknown. Thank you for your respect. Goes a long way in my eyes.
Ben, you end up planning on coming to the city, hit me up. Katz's deli is on me my friend. Got to have it. And of course I'll take you to my pizza spot, pizza suprema. Damn, I'm getting hungry hahaha. You can come to Pd if you ever are in the city. I'll show you nyc pizza! Haha
Almost got squirly with the door bouncer last time at Katz. Dick head was all bent out of shape that my daughter threw out her ticket and he wouldn't let her leave.(We had no idea,no one tells you you need it to leave and it was our first time there)That got poppa bear all pissed off.I thought I would end up getting arrested after I gave it right back to him.He finally chilled when he realized I wasn't putting up with that shit or backing down.
Service was slow but the pastrami was outstanding and portions were large.
I think it's Katz's that my dad loves to share his infamous story from. He ordered a sandwich, and didn't want tongue on it, so asked for 'no tongue'. Had his sandwich, got the bill, and they charged him extra for a 'substitution'. He asked why this was the case, because he just asked for something removed, not swapped. Manager comes by, they get into a whole thing, and eventually the guy asks my dad where he's from. He says Canada. Manager says, 'go back'.
So... I'm hearing don't go to Katz's.
I guess just don't go for the service. I hear the food's fantastic regardless. Not that NYC has any shortage of fantastic places to eat.
I don't do that out of principle. If a business is run by assholes, I prefer an alternative where they appreciate my business.
You said it: I'm doubtful the place has hoisted itself so far above others that the disrespect is worth it.
* I ask this of pd who mentioned it in a post of his on the other page.
Yeah, depending on which account is to be believed (shia or Sunni) I believe the Sunni's have her down as his 'favourite wife' of the 9 he had. They believe he was buried at her house. The Shia have a different take.....
doesn't seem to be any question over the age though.
How can anyone in this day and age not right Pd? Just looking up at the sky my mind goes crazy. I love the unknown. Thank you for your respect. Goes a long way in my eyes.
Ben, you end up planning on coming to the city, hit me up. Katz's deli is on me my friend. Got to have it. And of course I'll take you to my pizza spot, pizza suprema. Damn, I'm getting hungry hahaha. You can come to Pd if you ever are in the city. I'll show you nyc pizza! Haha
Almost got squirly with the door bouncer last time at Katz. Dick head was all bent out of shape that my daughter threw out her ticket and he wouldn't let her leave.(We had no idea,no one tells you you need it to leave and it was our first time there)That got poppa bear all pissed off.I thought I would end up getting arrested after I gave it right back to him.He finally chilled when he realized I wasn't putting up with that shit or backing down.
Service was slow but the pastrami was outstanding and portions were large.
I think it's Katz's that my dad loves to share his infamous story from. He ordered a sandwich, and didn't want tongue on it, so asked for 'no tongue'. Had his sandwich, got the bill, and they charged him extra for a 'substitution'. He asked why this was the case, because he just asked for something removed, not swapped. Manager comes by, they get into a whole thing, and eventually the guy asks my dad where he's from. He says Canada. Manager says, 'go back'.
So... I'm hearing don't go to Katz's.
I guess just don't go for the service. I hear the food's fantastic regardless. Not that NYC has any shortage of fantastic places to eat.
I don't do that out of principle. If a business is run by assholes, I prefer an alternative where they appreciate my business.
You said it: I'm doubtful the place has hoisted itself so far above others that the disrespect is worth it.
Is it that good RR? I haven't been there yet. I never had issues at katz's, but Carnegie deli sux, terrible pastrami. I think I'll give stage next time. Maybe I'll meet u there before the foos show this summer, if u make it up here.
Is it that good RR? I haven't been there yet. I never had issues at katz's, but Carnegie deli sux, terrible pastrami. I think I'll give stage next time. Maybe I'll meet u there before the foos show this summer, if u make it up here.
Badbrains... I see you're going for a 'fresh' look (new avatar)!
Is it that good RR? I haven't been there yet. I never had issues at katz's, but Carnegie deli sux, terrible pastrami. I think I'll give stage next time. Maybe I'll meet u there before the foos show this summer, if u make it up here.
Huge portions.i enjoyed it.
Now your talking.A New York trip is being discussed.My son may be moving up this summer to take a job . so Who knows.Ill keep you up to date.But you can bet your ass I will partying at The Three monkeys bar/Pub on W.54th and At Arlenes Grocery for some killer live rock.That is always on our iteniary.
Oh and a trip to Johns Pizza/Italian Restaraunt by Times Square on 44th is also the real deal.
Wow- this thread, LOL! I can't figure out if it's a food fight, a restaurant guide or the History of Married Minors?
About that dropping toxic food thing... instead let's do something really subversive and drop several thousand megabytes of kick ass music into the iPads and hard drives of people's devices in the places we keep trying to annihilate and sneak out with some of their music. Music will be the bridge that will end the insane fighting and killing. Hemp will restore the earth and fuel the world. Solutions, not death!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Obese people kill themselves and not other people and what gives you the right to insist that they be skinny? This is just silly. Also ISIS is governed by a version of Islam whether you are willing to accept this or not. It is what the first "I" stands for. This cannot be denied. It is rapidly crowding out the more moderate strains. One can easily state this without "conditioning people to hate all things Muslim and Islamic". If anything I am the one arguing for the protection of muslims from the radicals. After all ISIS is killing far more muslims then christians and/or jews.
so then a serial killer who interprets the bible to kill everyone he deems unworthy is a true christian, just because he says he is performing the will of god? 75,000 idiots who can't read make islam what it is, but billions of other peaceful ones don't? how does that make a lick of sense?
You like that Thirty! Hahaha. And the 3 monkeys has the best Stella on tap ever! Right behind letterman studios. I'll meet you there RR.
So you know my little place.Sweet.I stay in that Hilton Garden Inn across the street. When I have time later I will Pm you a little story about our last visit there and who our new interesting drinking friends were.It was super bowl weekend and we were up for the private Foo show at the Pier where Intreped is.
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absolutely - whilst I have zero belief unfortunately in anything other than the world around me, I wouldn't ever want to purposefully look to fly in the face of someone else's belief or spiritual figure. There really isn't any need to do that, but personally I don't put the gods above anyone else for obvious reasons. In the same way I wouldn't wish to insult peoples families I wouldn't equally look to do so with gods.....but that isn't because I think they are untouchable symbols and figureheads and the creators of the world. So yeah its a simple issue of respect, and to respect Mohammed doesn't mean you have to support what he was or did, just that he is clearly very very important to a lot of people.
Religion hasn't aged well with time, and in that sense its truly sad that it causes so much pain and misery, oppression and brutality. When the story of Adam and Eve came about and the 7 days creation of the world in Christianity - how would the people who started that story ever have known that thousands of years later we would be finding dinasaurs that predated human history by literally tens of millions of years.....
Yet despite that, the teachings and the stories remain, locked in a period of time that is so grossly out of kilter with many things we now know, and really its impossible to update them which is why priests, vicars and the likes, now prefer to focus on the meanings and teachings rather than the literal events, loose concepts that do when treat in that way still remain relevant to modern society.
It speaks volumes when the current pope embraces evolution and the big bang theory.....
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
That's awesome, you clearly keep an open mind when it comes to your faith, and live your life according to your own decisions and refuse to blindly follow a script. That I have every respect for.
I'll get there eventually! In the middle of a major project for our family company, but I'm hoping to treat myself to a little vacation when it's wrapped up. Probably July at this rate.
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
Maybe that's the problem with religion, is the absence of a disclaimer at the end of each and every holy book: "This book is meant to guide one through a noble life. This book does not condone harm or punishment for not belonging to, betraying, or for leaving, this faith. If you do choose to inflict harm or to punish for not belonging to, or leaving, this faith, you are acting alone, and not in the name of your faith".
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
Ben, you end up planning on coming to the city, hit me up. Katz's deli is on me my friend. Got to have it. And of course I'll take you to my pizza spot, pizza suprema. Damn, I'm getting hungry hahaha. You can come to Pd if you ever are in the city. I'll show you nyc pizza! Haha
Awesome - I made myself a promise that the new time the boys are playing MSG Im coming
Almost got squirly with the door bouncer last time at Katz. Dick head was all bent out of shape that my daughter threw out her ticket and he wouldn't let her leave.(We had no idea,no one tells you you need it to leave and it was our first time there)That got poppa bear all pissed off.I thought I would end up getting arrested after I gave it right back to him.He finally chilled when he realized I wasn't putting up with that shit or backing down.
Service was slow but the pastrami was outstanding and portions were large.
* I ask this of pd who mentioned it in a post of his on the other page.
This is an excellent point Musky.I did forget about" heading for the border".I would be neglect to not add The 5$ Bucket of fried shit from KFC also.
How about Red rocks?
I think it's Katz's that my dad loves to share his infamous story from. He ordered a sandwich, and didn't want tongue on it, so asked for 'no tongue'. Had his sandwich, got the bill, and they charged him extra for a 'substitution'. He asked why this was the case, because he just asked for something removed, not swapped. Manager comes by, they get into a whole thing, and eventually the guy asks my dad where he's from. He says Canada. Manager says, 'go back'.
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
So... I'm hearing don't go to Katz's.
I guess just don't go for the service. I hear the food's fantastic regardless. Not that NYC has any shortage of fantastic places to eat.
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
I don't do that out of principle. If a business is run by assholes, I prefer an alternative where they appreciate my business.
You said it: I'm doubtful the place has hoisted itself so far above others that the disrespect is worth it.
Yeah, depending on which account is to be believed (shia or Sunni) I believe the Sunni's have her down as his 'favourite wife' of the 9 he had. They believe he was buried at her house. The Shia have a different take.....
doesn't seem to be any question over the age though.
Go to the Stage Deli.Just as good no attitude.
Badbrains... I see you're going for a 'fresh' look (new avatar)!
Now your talking.A New York trip is being discussed.My son may be moving up this summer to take a job . so Who knows.Ill keep you up to date.But you can bet your ass I will partying at The Three monkeys bar/Pub on W.54th and At Arlenes Grocery for some killer live rock.That is always on our iteniary.
Oh and a trip to Johns Pizza/Italian Restaraunt by Times Square on 44th is also the real deal.
About that dropping toxic food thing... instead let's do something really subversive and drop several thousand megabytes of kick ass music into the iPads and hard drives of people's devices in the places we keep trying to annihilate and sneak out with some of their music. Music will be the bridge that will end the insane fighting and killing. Hemp will restore the earth and fuel the world. Solutions, not death!
so then a serial killer who interprets the bible to kill everyone he deems unworthy is a true christian, just because he says he is performing the will of god? 75,000 idiots who can't read make islam what it is, but billions of other peaceful ones don't? how does that make a lick of sense?
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When I have time later I will Pm you a little story about our last visit there and who our new interesting drinking friends were.It was super bowl weekend and we were up for the private Foo show at the Pier where Intreped is.