Tamir Rice shooting (12yr old)

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  • backseatLover12
    backseatLover12 Posts: 2,312
    edited March 2015
    "It's incredible that they would take such a posture, such an insensitive position instead of just acknowledging bad behavior," lawyer Walter Madison, who represents Tamir's family, said Sunday. "I think the more healthy thing for them to do is to come together, acknowledge that they're wrong, work on solutions so that this never happens again and allow this family to properly heal instead of insult them".
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/03/02/police-kill-cleveland-boy/24259591/

    Unbelievable. This is what society has become.... Police can brutalize and kill... And blame the victim and get away with murder.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,413
    interesting.....

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/11/us/tamir-rice-judge-recommendation/?sr=fb061115tamirricejudge630pStoryLink
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    What a miscarriage of justice. Broken system.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/28/us/tamir-rice-shooting/index.html
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,413
    Absolutely. Cowards.
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  • muskydan
    muskydan Posts: 1,013
    Sorry the facts and the LAW are getting in the way of the anti-police rhetoric around these parts. Teach your Children not to play w/ guns, knives, bats, or any deadly weapon around the police and horrible things like this won't happen.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited December 2015
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    everything I've read about this case tells me the cops did nothing wrong. they weren't given the proper information, and they have to make the decision to fire/not fire in a split second. every one of you, in my opinion, would have reacted the same.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    everything I've read about this case tells me the cops did nothing wrong. they weren't given the proper information, and they have to make the decision to fire/not fire in a split second. every one of you, in my opinion, would have reacted the same.

    I'm not sure about that, Hugh.

    I'm one of the most ardent supporters of police in the most contentious cases, but I have a hard time with this one. A kid sitting on a park table, nobody around him, holding a play gun- even if it was a real gun... a quick and reasonable assessment should have established a more patient approach.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,413
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    everything I've read about this case tells me the cops did nothing wrong. they weren't given the proper information, and they have to make the decision to fire/not fire in a split second. every one of you, in my opinion, would have reacted the same.

    Absolutely wrong when within 3-4 seconds of exiting the vehicle this boy was dead.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,413
    edited December 2015
    I want to see what was presented to the GJ and how it was presented to them.

    This DA is likely out of a job next year. Re-election in march.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    everything I've read about this case tells me the cops did nothing wrong. they weren't given the proper information, and they have to make the decision to fire/not fire in a split second. every one of you, in my opinion, would have reacted the same.

    I'm not sure about that, Hugh.

    I'm one of the most ardent supporters of police in the most contentious cases, but I have a hard time with this one. A kid sitting on a park table, nobody around him, holding a play gun- even if it was a real gun... a quick and reasonable assessment should have established a more patient approach.
    well what I just read on CNN was that he was not sitting, he was standing, and was reaching into his pants to grab the "weapon". is this incorrect?

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    mickeyrat said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    everything I've read about this case tells me the cops did nothing wrong. they weren't given the proper information, and they have to make the decision to fire/not fire in a split second. every one of you, in my opinion, would have reacted the same.

    Absolutely wrong when within 3-4 seconds of exiting the vehicle this boy was dead.
    not if they thought he was grabbing what they thought was a gun. But again, I need clarification on what happened exactly. what I read, as I posted above, might not be the facts.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    everything I've read about this case tells me the cops did nothing wrong. they weren't given the proper information, and they have to make the decision to fire/not fire in a split second. every one of you, in my opinion, would have reacted the same.

    I'm not sure about that, Hugh.

    I'm one of the most ardent supporters of police in the most contentious cases, but I have a hard time with this one. A kid sitting on a park table, nobody around him, holding a play gun- even if it was a real gun... a quick and reasonable assessment should have established a more patient approach.
    well what I just read on CNN was that he was not sitting, he was standing, and was reaching into his pants to grab the "weapon". is this incorrect?

    From what I can recall of the video, he was sitting there peacefully- almost looked like a break in his 'play time'- with the gun in his hand on his lap. There was nobody else in sight.

    The cops raced up to him in their car and shot him from the passenger side front window within seconds of coming to a screeching halt.

    It was the shits.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited December 2015
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    everything I've read about this case tells me the cops did nothing wrong. they weren't given the proper information, and they have to make the decision to fire/not fire in a split second. every one of you, in my opinion, would have reacted the same.

    I'm not sure about that, Hugh.

    I'm one of the most ardent supporters of police in the most contentious cases, but I have a hard time with this one. A kid sitting on a park table, nobody around him, holding a play gun- even if it was a real gun... a quick and reasonable assessment should have established a more patient approach.
    well what I just read on CNN was that he was not sitting, he was standing, and was reaching into his pants to grab the "weapon". is this incorrect?

    From what I can recall of the video, he was sitting there peacefully- almost looked like a break in his 'play time'- with the gun in his hand on his lap. There was nobody else in sight.

    The cops raced up to him in their car and shot him from the passenger side front window within seconds of coming to a screeching halt.

    It was the shits.
    .
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    everything I've read about this case tells me the cops did nothing wrong. they weren't given the proper information, and they have to make the decision to fire/not fire in a split second. every one of you, in my opinion, would have reacted the same.

    I'm not sure about that, Hugh.

    I'm one of the most ardent supporters of police in the most contentious cases, but I have a hard time with this one. A kid sitting on a park table, nobody around him, holding a play gun- even if it was a real gun... a quick and reasonable assessment should have established a more patient approach.
    well what I just read on CNN was that he was not sitting, he was standing, and was reaching into his pants to grab the "weapon". is this incorrect?

    From what I can recall of the video, he was sitting there peacefully- almost looked like a break in his 'play time'- with the gun in his hand on his lap. There was nobody else in sight.

    The cops raced up to him in their car and shot him from the passenger side front window within seconds of coming to a screeching halt.

    It was the shits.
    really? JESUS. I respectfully retract my take on it.

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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    everything I've read about this case tells me the cops did nothing wrong. they weren't given the proper information, and they have to make the decision to fire/not fire in a split second. every one of you, in my opinion, would have reacted the same.

    I'm not sure about that, Hugh.

    I'm one of the most ardent supporters of police in the most contentious cases, but I have a hard time with this one. A kid sitting on a park table, nobody around him, holding a play gun- even if it was a real gun... a quick and reasonable assessment should have established a more patient approach.
    well what I just read on CNN was that he was not sitting, he was standing, and was reaching into his pants to grab the "weapon". is this incorrect?

    From what I can recall of the video, he was sitting there peacefully- almost looked like a break in his 'play time'- with the gun in his hand on his lap. There was nobody else in sight.

    The cops raced up to him in their car and shot him from the passenger side front window within seconds of coming to a screeching halt.

    It was the shits.
    really? JESUS. I respectfully retract my take on it.

    I might have it wrong- my memory of the clip is vague. You should watch it and judge for yourself.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    everything I've read about this case tells me the cops did nothing wrong. they weren't given the proper information, and they have to make the decision to fire/not fire in a split second. every one of you, in my opinion, would have reacted the same.

    I'm not sure about that, Hugh.

    I'm one of the most ardent supporters of police in the most contentious cases, but I have a hard time with this one. A kid sitting on a park table, nobody around him, holding a play gun- even if it was a real gun... a quick and reasonable assessment should have established a more patient approach.
    well what I just read on CNN was that he was not sitting, he was standing, and was reaching into his pants to grab the "weapon". is this incorrect?

    From what I can recall of the video, he was sitting there peacefully- almost looked like a break in his 'play time'- with the gun in his hand on his lap. There was nobody else in sight.

    The cops raced up to him in their car and shot him from the passenger side front window within seconds of coming to a screeching halt.

    It was the shits.
    really? JESUS. I respectfully retract my take on it.

    I watched it again and my memory wasn't so fuzzy- its basically as I described it. Pretty ruthless.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    I read that there was an enhancement made to the video that lent just enough credence to the "reaching for gun" claim to get him off. There was a hand motion which was not definitive one way or the other, he was shot before it played out.
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    mickeyrat said:

    I want to see what was presented to the GC and how it was presented to them.

    This DA is likely out of a job next year. Re-election in march.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/no-indictment-tamir-rice_5681918ce4b0b958f65a19c5
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,413
    dankind said:

    mickeyrat said:

    I want to see what was presented to the GJ and how it was presented to them.

    This DA is likely out of a job next year. Re-election in march.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/no-indictment-tamir-rice_5681918ce4b0b958f65a19c5
    Not a betting man, but I'd take even money he will be out of a job come March.
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