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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    jeffbr said:

    Obama just commuted the sentences of 214 people serving federal time, mostly for non-violent drug offenses. Good work, Obama! 69 of them were serving life sentences, which was ridiculous to begin with. Many of them are African Americans who got caught in the ill-advised crack vs. powder cocaine sentencing nonsense that used to exist. That brings Obama's total to 562, and he apparently isn't done yet. I'm always happy when rationality prevails. Non-violent drug offenders should be offered treatment, not thrown in prison for the rest of their lives.

    Obama added 102 more to the list, and is up to 774 individuals, most of them non-violent drug offenders. He's been kicking ass here. It sounds like they have a pretty big backlog of clemency requests that they're trying to get through before he leaves office. Makes sense, because once he's gone, that will slow way down. I'm sure Trump doesn't give a shit about this, and Hillary will try to save face knowing that many of them are there because of Bill's horrid mandatory minimum sentencing laws (I like Bill, but this was one of his bigger fuckups). Anyway, good work again, President Obama.

    Obama reducing 102 inmates' sentences
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    jeffbr said:

    jeffbr said:

    Obama just commuted the sentences of 214 people serving federal time, mostly for non-violent drug offenses. Good work, Obama! 69 of them were serving life sentences, which was ridiculous to begin with. Many of them are African Americans who got caught in the ill-advised crack vs. powder cocaine sentencing nonsense that used to exist. That brings Obama's total to 562, and he apparently isn't done yet. I'm always happy when rationality prevails. Non-violent drug offenders should be offered treatment, not thrown in prison for the rest of their lives.

    Obama added 102 more to the list, and is up to 774 individuals, most of them non-violent drug offenders. He's been kicking ass here. It sounds like they have a pretty big backlog of clemency requests that they're trying to get through before he leaves office. Makes sense, because once he's gone, that will slow way down. I'm sure Trump doesn't give a shit about this, and Hillary will try to save face knowing that many of them are there because of Bill's horrid mandatory minimum sentencing laws (I like Bill, but this was one of his bigger fuckups). Anyway, good work again, President Obama.

    Obama reducing 102 inmates' sentences
    agreed.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    JC29856 said:

    Nobel peace president.

    The Obama administration has offered to sell $115bn worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia over its eight years in office, more than any previous US administration, according to a new report.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/08/obama-administration-offered-115-billion-weapons-saudi-arabia-report

    Duh. More guns = more peace. Just ask the NRA.
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    CM189191 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Nobel peace president.

    The Obama administration has offered to sell $115bn worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia over its eight years in office, more than any previous US administration, according to a new report.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/08/obama-administration-offered-115-billion-weapons-saudi-arabia-report

    Duh. More guns = more peace. Just ask the NRA.
    :clap:
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,601
    Michelle Obama is an incredible person.

    That is all.
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    g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,122

    Michelle Obama is an incredible person.

    That is all.

    That was a pretty riveting speach, Trump is up next lets see how he handles the groping claims against him.

    Peace

    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    CM189191 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Nobel peace president.

    The Obama administration has offered to sell $115bn worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia over its eight years in office, more than any previous US administration, according to a new report.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/08/obama-administration-offered-115-billion-weapons-saudi-arabia-report

    Duh. More guns = more peace. Just ask the NRA.
    lol... they sure do make it easy don't they?
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
    Everything is peachy.
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,619
    Peachier than it's ever been. Could be even more peachy.
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,967
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,967
    CM189191 said:
    shit...you beat me to it
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    hope I don't see any of the "worst president in history" folks smoking any cubans or enjoying any cuban rum!!
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    That title is always handed off pretty quickly.
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Obama has said he learned about the Clinton private server thru news reports, the wikileaks suggest otherwise. Look back at others times Obama pleaded the news reports.

    1.) Fast and Furious: When asked about the gun-running scandal that resulted in the death of border agent Brian Terry in 2010, President Obama told reporters on Oct. 11, 2011, “I heard on the news about this story, that, uh, Fast and Furious.”

    2.) NSA spying on foreign leaders: President Obama said he didn't know his administration was spying on foreign leaders like German Chancellor Angela Merkel. He told the press on Oct. 28, 2013 that, “I can assure you that I certainly did not know anything about the IG report before the IG report had been leaked through the press.”

    3.) The General David Petraeus sex scandal: Petraeus, then the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, was forced to resign in Nov. 2012 after news surfaced that he was having an affair with his biographer. The White House repeatedly refused to answer questions about when the President was finally briefed about Petraeus' situation.

    4.) The IRS's targeting of conservative groups: President Obama told the media in May 2013 that he first learned about the IRS's improper targeting “from the same news reports that I think most people learned about this. I think it was on Friday.”

    5.) The Justice Department's wiretapping of AP and Fox News reporters: When asked about the secret seizure of reporters' phone records, Obama spokesperson Jay Carney told the media that the president “found out about the news reports, uh, yesterday on the road.”

    6.) The Department of Veterans' Affairs healthcare 'waiting list' scandal: The White House appeared to be in the dark about the waiting list scandal and cover-up related to medical care for the country's military vets. Then-Press Secretary Jay Carney told reporters that, “We learned about them through the reports. I will double check if that is not the case. But that is when we learned about them.”

    7.) The Unauthorized Air Force One photo-op: New York City residents were panicked when, in April 2009, Air Force One — sans President Obama — flew over the Statue of Liberty for a pre-scheduled photo-op. Obama's response: “It was something that, uh, we found out about, uh, along with all of you.”
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    Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    edited October 2016
    Post edited by Godfather. on
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    pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    Yet we dont need a wall and Trump is bat shit crazy for wanting to deport people yet the King has deported at record levels....thanks to the great work of ICE and border patrol agents

    http://www.snopes.com/obama-deported-more-people/



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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    pjalive21 said:

    Yet we dont need a wall and Trump is bat shit crazy for wanting to deport people yet the King has deported at record levels....thanks to the great work of ICE and border patrol agents

    http://www.snopes.com/obama-deported-more-people/



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    lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    He's a lawyer ... seems perfectly suited to hold public office...lol
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    lukin2006 said:

    He's a lawyer ... seems perfectly suited to hold public office...lol
    That's selling it a bit short:
    graduated with a JD degree magna cum laude from Harvard
    president of the Harvard Law Review
    visiting Law and Government Fellow at the University of Chicago Law School
    taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years
    11 years with law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    edited October 2016
    what a joke.
    Post edited by HughFreakingDillon on
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    so single payer it is then!
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    lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    edited October 2016
    CM189191 said:

    lukin2006 said:

    He's a lawyer ... seems perfectly suited to hold public office...lol
    That's selling it a bit short:
    graduated with a JD degree magna cum laude from Harvard
    president of the Harvard Law Review
    visiting Law and Government Fellow at the University of Chicago Law School
    taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years
    11 years with law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development
    So ... he's still a lawyer who became a politician, politicians are con men. One thing that will never impress me is when people feel the need to trot out university degrees, that has no bearing on whether a person is qualified.

    I shall expand upon the whether a person is qualified line before I'm flamed, I am in no way saying your POTUS isn't qualified to run the US, actually he seems perfectly capable of carriying on the same failed Middle East policies...not to mention the war mongering that apparently Americans so love in their leaders. Good job America.
    Post edited by lukin2006 on
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
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    Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    what a joke.
    others on here here gave a good reply and this is all you have ?

    Godfather.

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    g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,122

    what a joke.
    others on here here gave a good reply and this is all you have ?

    Godfather.

    From your POV, to me much better than your deplorable comments in your vigilante thread.

    Peace

    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


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    OffSheGoes35OffSheGoes35 Posts: 3,487
    lukin2006 said:

    CM189191 said:

    lukin2006 said:

    He's a lawyer ... seems perfectly suited to hold public office...lol
    That's selling it a bit short:
    graduated with a JD degree magna cum laude from Harvard
    president of the Harvard Law Review
    visiting Law and Government Fellow at the University of Chicago Law School
    taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years
    11 years with law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development
    So ... he's still a lawyer who became a politician, politicians are con men. One thing that will never impress me is when people feel the need to trot out university degrees, that has no bearing on whether a person is qualified.

    I shall expand upon the whether a person is qualified line before I'm flamed, I am in no way saying your POTUS isn't qualified to run the US, actually he seems perfectly capable of carrying on the same failed Middle East policies...not to mention the war mongering that apparently Americans so love in their leaders. Good job America.
    Quit busting our balls already.
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    lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    edited October 2016

    lukin2006 said:

    CM189191 said:

    lukin2006 said:

    He's a lawyer ... seems perfectly suited to hold public office...lol
    That's selling it a bit short:
    graduated with a JD degree magna cum laude from Harvard
    president of the Harvard Law Review
    visiting Law and Government Fellow at the University of Chicago Law School
    taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years
    11 years with law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development
    So ... he's still a lawyer who became a politician, politicians are con men. One thing that will never impress me is when people feel the need to trot out university degrees, that has no bearing on whether a person is qualified.

    I shall expand upon the whether a person is qualified line before I'm flamed, I am in no way saying your POTUS isn't qualified to run the US, actually he seems perfectly capable of carrying on the same failed Middle East policies...not to mention the war mongering that apparently Americans so love in their leaders. Good job America.
    Quit busting our balls already.
    Not going to happen...

    And why should I, I am more critical of my own government, and Canada as a close ally of the US tries to drag us into their conflicts...just glad Harper was not PM at the time of the Iraq invasion because he would have had us in there with you guys into the depth of hell, as it was I thought Afghanistan was bullshit that we even followed you guys there.

    So when are you guys going to start holding your politicians accountable for the destruction caused with constant war...
    Post edited by lukin2006 on
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,719
    edited October 2016
    lukin2006 said:

    lukin2006 said:

    CM189191 said:

    lukin2006 said:

    He's a lawyer ... seems perfectly suited to hold public office...lol
    That's selling it a bit short:
    graduated with a JD degree magna cum laude from Harvard
    president of the Harvard Law Review
    visiting Law and Government Fellow at the University of Chicago Law School
    taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years
    11 years with law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development
    So ... he's still a lawyer who became a politician, politicians are con men. One thing that will never impress me is when people feel the need to trot out university degrees, that has no bearing on whether a person is qualified.

    I shall expand upon the whether a person is qualified line before I'm flamed, I am in no way saying your POTUS isn't qualified to run the US, actually he seems perfectly capable of carrying on the same failed Middle East policies...not to mention the war mongering that apparently Americans so love in their leaders. Good job America.
    Quit busting our balls already.
    Not going to happen...

    And why should I, I am more critical of my own government, and Canada as a close ally of the US tries to drag us into their conflicts...just glad Harper was not PM at the time of the Iraq invasion because he would have had us in there with you guys into the depth of hell, as it was I thought Afghanistan was bullshit that we even followed you guys there.

    So when are you guys going to start holding your politicians accountable for the destruction caused with constant war...
    Apparently not for at least another four years or until some of us can convince more people to vote for anti-war candidates like Jill Stein.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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    Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    g under p said:

    what a joke.
    others on here here gave a good reply and this is all you have ?

    Godfather.

    From your POV, to me much better than your deplorable comments in your vigilante thread.

    Peace

    I'm a deplorable redneck (the Clintons said so)

    Godfather.

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