others on here here gave a good reply and this is all you have ?
Godfather.
From your POV, to me much better than your deplorable comments in your vigilante thread.
Peace
I'm a deplorable redneck (the Clintons said so)
Godfather.
If you are using Hillary's definition of deplorable you are including yourself as a racist, misogynist, xenophobe....that was the definition that she included as "deplorable"
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others on here here gave a good reply and this is all you have ?
Godfather.
From your POV, to me much better than your deplorable comments in your vigilante thread.
Peace
I'm a deplorable redneck (the Clintons said so)
Godfather.
If you are using Hillary's definition of deplorable you are including yourself as a racist, misogynist, xenophobe....that was the definition that she included as "deplorable"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHH good grief man if you were a fish you'd be on the line.
Yes, that too, assuming it or whatever it eventually morphs into works okay in the long run. That's a big IF considering the players going forward. But his efforts were gallant, anyway.
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He's a lawyer ... seems perfectly suited to hold public office...lol
That's selling it a bit short: graduated with a JD degree magna cum laude from Harvard president of the Harvard Law Review visiting Law and Government Fellow at the University of Chicago Law School taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years 11 years with law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development
So ... he's still a lawyer who became a politician, politicians are con men. One thing that will never impress me is when people feel the need to trot out university degrees, that has no bearing on whether a person is qualified.
I shall expand upon the whether a person is qualified line before I'm flamed, I am in no way saying your POTUS isn't qualified to run the US, actually he seems perfectly capable of carrying on the same failed Middle East policies...not to mention the war mongering that apparently Americans so love in their leaders. Good job America.
Quit busting our balls already.
Not going to happen...
And why should I, I am more critical of my own government, and Canada as a close ally of the US tries to drag us into their conflicts...just glad Harper was not PM at the time of the Iraq invasion because he would have had us in there with you guys into the depth of hell, as it was I thought Afghanistan was bullshit that we even followed you guys there. So when are you guys going to start holding your politicians accountable for the destruction caused with constant war...
Like it's really just so simple as a snap of the fingers and a wink...
Yes, that too, assuming it or whatever it eventually morphs into works okay in the long run. That's a big IF considering the players going forward. But his efforts were gallant, anyway.
Obamacare which ironically was Romney care was doomed from the jump, good old Baucus made sure of that. To clarify I meant besides being first black prez.
I always try to think what will be in the history books in the future about the Obama presidency. Aside from being the first African American president and Obamacare, I think the Bin Laden raid will be remembered.
Yes, that too, assuming it or whatever it eventually morphs into works okay in the long run. That's a big IF considering the players going forward. But his efforts were gallant, anyway.
I doubt they'll ever have universal health care, too many special interest from the insurance will surely prevent this...
I have an American cousin who has said obamacare is a joke, and he's no republican...
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Obamacare was a bandaid after he tried to put a cast on healthcare in this country
Bin laden and in general I think a passive'ish approach to the Middle East
The most consecutive months of job growth in this nations history
The most progressive social agenda of any president ever
I saw in some major magazine in the ranking of Presidents and the President was ranked #18. GWB was #33and Nixon was #34 also if I remember correctly $ Bill Clinton was #17.
Yes you are correct his legacy will be outstanding, one of the lines from the magazine used to describe him was *cool under pressure* they should've just gone ahead and said he's grace under pressure as well.
Peace
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After today nobody can deny that Obamacare was anything other then an epic fail.
Yeah, I think the people who have chronic health problems that no longer face lifetime limits and denial of coverage due to pre-existing conditions will deny it pretty convincingly.
After today nobody can deny that Obamacare was anything other then an epic fail.
Yeah, I think the people who have chronic health problems that no longer face lifetime limits and denial of coverage due to pre-existing conditions will deny it pretty convincingly.
After today nobody can deny that Obamacare was anything other then an epic fail.
Yeah, I think the people who have chronic health problems that no longer face lifetime limits and denial of coverage due to pre-existing conditions will deny it pretty convincingly.
After today nobody can deny that Obamacare was anything other then an epic fail.
Yeah, I think the people who have chronic health problems that no longer face lifetime limits and denial of coverage due to pre-existing conditions will deny it pretty convincingly.
if they can even afford it now
Nobody but the very richest people can afford the treatments and meds needed for most chronic conditions and everyone can afford Obamacare, if you can't, then you don't have to pay.
It is only the people who had their cake and were eating it too that are upset with the ACA. The people who weren't lucky enough to have good employer subsidized healthcare plans aren't pissing and moaning because this hasn't effected us much. In case you didn't know, that group includes the vast majority of small business owners that the opponents of Obamacare pay lip service to but know nothing about.
Yes, that too, assuming it or whatever it eventually morphs into works okay in the long run. That's a big IF considering the players going forward. But his efforts were gallant, anyway.
I doubt they'll ever have universal health care, too many special interest from the insurance will surely prevent this...
I have an American cousin who has said obamacare is a joke, and he's no republican...
Yes, that too, assuming it or whatever it eventually morphs into works okay in the long run. That's a big IF considering the players going forward. But his efforts were gallant, anyway.
I doubt they'll ever have universal health care, too many special interest from the insurance will surely prevent this...
I have an American cousin who has said obamacare is a joke, and he's no republican...
After today nobody can deny that Obamacare was anything other then an epic fail.
Yeah, I think the people who have chronic health problems that no longer face lifetime limits and denial of coverage due to pre-existing conditions will deny it pretty convincingly.
if they can even afford it now
Nobody but the very richest people can afford the treatments and meds needed for most chronic conditions and everyone can afford Obamacare, if you can't, then you don't have to pay.
It is only the people who had their cake and were eating it too that are upset with the ACA. The people who weren't lucky enough to have good employer subsidized healthcare plans aren't pissing and moaning because this hasn't effected us much. In case you didn't know, that group includes the vast majority of small business owners that the opponents of Obamacare pay lip service to but know nothing about.
ACA is kicking the middle class right in the balls. It has been an unmitigated failure. Exchange is opening with 1/5 the choices and a 25% premium increase. In many locations people are down to a choice of 1 provider. Those with no income really benefit. Otherwise, people are priced out. I have employer provided insurance, although I pay for my spouse. The plan has become very expensive, very high deductibles/co-pays. Have to shell out several thousands of dollars before they even start contributing. I used to be able to use my insurance. I no longer can afford to. For the majority of insureds, Obamacare is currently a clusterfuck, and even Bill Clinton agrees. Since this was supposed to be Obama's legacy, I'm not surprised he and his administration downplay the need for massive reform. I'm looking forward to President Clinton fixing this mess.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
After today nobody can deny that Obamacare was anything other then an epic fail.
Yeah, I think the people who have chronic health problems that no longer face lifetime limits and denial of coverage due to pre-existing conditions will deny it pretty convincingly.
if they can even afford it now
Nobody but the very richest people can afford the treatments and meds needed for most chronic conditions and everyone can afford Obamacare, if you can't, then you don't have to pay.
It is only the people who had their cake and were eating it too that are upset with the ACA. The people who weren't lucky enough to have good employer subsidized healthcare plans aren't pissing and moaning because this hasn't effected us much. In case you didn't know, that group includes the vast majority of small business owners that the opponents of Obamacare pay lip service to but know nothing about.
im with you...i believe there should be something out there for people, but Obamacare wasn't thought out long term...they assumed young people would be paying into the system and they are not...they need to revisit the whole process and make it better or allow you to go across state lines and have competitive insurance
After today nobody can deny that Obamacare was anything other then an epic fail.
Yeah, I think the people who have chronic health problems that no longer face lifetime limits and denial of coverage due to pre-existing conditions will deny it pretty convincingly.
Oh they get coverage but the question is whether they can find a doctor who is willing to accept their coverage. That number is shrinking every day.
Yes, that too, assuming it or whatever it eventually morphs into works okay in the long run. That's a big IF considering the players going forward. But his efforts were gallant, anyway.
I doubt they'll ever have universal health care, too many special interest from the insurance will surely prevent this...
I have an American cousin who has said obamacare is a joke, and he's no republican...
Holy smokes! that is pretty damning.
Well thats my own personal experience, thats all i was commenting on...and my obamacare legacy comment was it'll either be viewed as good or bad....i didn't need for it mean more than that, so take a long walk....
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Yes, that too, assuming it or whatever it eventually morphs into works okay in the long run. That's a big IF considering the players going forward. But his efforts were gallant, anyway.
I doubt they'll ever have universal health care, too many special interest from the insurance will surely prevent this...
I have an American cousin who has said obamacare is a joke, and he's no republican...
Holy smokes! that is pretty damning.
Well thats my own personal experience, thats all i was commenting on...and my obamacare legacy comment was it'll either be viewed as good or bad....i didn't need for it mean more than that, so take a long walk....
Using your own personal experience or a few other anecdotal stories to determine if ACA is a good thing or not is pretty much an argument fail.
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Godfather.
was he disbarred ?
Godfather.
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"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
To clarify I meant besides being first black prez.
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I have an American cousin who has said obamacare is a joke, and he's no republican...
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Obviously his race
Obamacare was a bandaid after he tried to put a cast on healthcare in this country
Bin laden and in general I think a passive'ish approach to the Middle East
The most consecutive months of job growth in this nations history
The most progressive social agenda of any president ever
Yes you are correct his legacy will be outstanding, one of the lines from the magazine used to describe him was *cool under pressure* they should've just gone ahead and said he's grace under pressure as well.
Peace
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*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Godfather.
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and as we are finding out its a complete disaster just look at the numbers release...yikes!
It is only the people who had their cake and were eating it too that are upset with the ACA. The people who weren't lucky enough to have good employer subsidized healthcare plans aren't pissing and moaning because this hasn't effected us much.
In case you didn't know, that group includes the vast majority of small business owners that the opponents of Obamacare pay lip service to but know nothing about.
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