Some facts for the Obama haters

rgambs

gimmesometruth27 said:

fact-

obama could make a recess appointment to the supreme court.

why doesn't he just do that?

Not strategic enough, make them look like the obstructionist pigs they are, THEN make a recess appointment.

Indifference

Hola!

gimmesometruth27

rgambs said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

fact-

obama could make a recess appointment to the supreme court.

why doesn't he just do that?

Not strategic enough, make them look like the obstructionist pigs they are, THEN make a recess appointment.

he still has 300 days left as president. i mean, his term is essentially over already, why waste time making them look like obstructionists?

they do a good enough job of that on their own.

my2hands

gimmesometruth27 said:

rgambs said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

fact-

obama could make a recess appointment to the supreme court.

why doesn't he just do that?

Not strategic enough, make them look like the obstructionist pigs they are, THEN make a recess appointment.

he still has 300 days left as president. i mean, his term is essentially over already, why waste time making them look like obstructionists?

they do a good enough job of that on their own.

Nominate a moderate republican, sit back and laugh while the try to squirm out of that shit somehow

gimmesometruth27

my2hands said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

rgambs said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

fact-

obama could make a recess appointment to the supreme court.

why doesn't he just do that?

Not strategic enough, make them look like the obstructionist pigs they are, THEN make a recess appointment.

he still has 300 days left as president. i mean, his term is essentially over already, why waste time making them look like obstructionists?

they do a good enough job of that on their own.

Nominate a moderate republican, sit back and laugh while the try to squirm out of that shit somehow

there is no squirming. they just refuse to hold meetings/hearings and then refuse to answer questions from the media.

it is very hold to hold people accountable or make them squirm when they absolutely refuse to do their fucking job.

JC29856

"Brutal dictators"

President Obama banned torture in the first week of his presidency. Citing his desire to “look forward, not backward,” however, he has declined to prosecute the senior officials responsible, and has used the state secrets privilege to block lawsuits from torture victims.

With Obama shielding U.S. officials from criminal and civil liability, former detainees are turning to international courts for justice – but the Obama administration is not cooperating. In 2012, the judge in Benchellali and Sassi’s case requested U.S. government documents related to the plaintiffs’ detentions, but got no response.

gimmesometruth27

JC29856 said:

"Brutal dictators"

President Obama banned torture in the first week of his presidency. Citing his desire to “look forward, not backward,” however, he has declined to prosecute the senior officials responsible, and has used the state secrets privilege to block lawsuits from torture victims.

With Obama shielding U.S. officials from criminal and civil liability, former detainees are turning to international courts for justice – but the Obama administration is not cooperating. In 2012, the judge in Benchellali and Sassi’s case requested U.S. government documents related to the plaintiffs’ detentions, but got no response.

of course.

it is not a crime when our guys do it. only when theirs torture our people.

JC29856

The Obama administration has long called itself the most transparent administration in history. But newly released Department of Justice (DOJ) documents show that the White House has actually worked aggressively behind the scenes to scuttle congressional reforms designed to give the public better access to information possessed by the federal government.

https://news.vice.com/article/it-took-a-foia-lawsuit-to-uncover-how-the-obama-administration-killed-foia-reform

Cliffy6745

"Real power means you can get what you want without having to exert violence"

Cliffy6745

This is such a phenomenal article. I view it as very positive but certainly understand that it will be inteperted differently by his critics.

It also makes me very nervous about Hillary.

I very much appreciate how smart and pragmatic Obama is. Well worth the read by everyone

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525/

JWPearl

Cliffy6745 said:

"Real power means you can get what you want without having to exert violence"

i disagree...

Cliffy6745

JWPearl said:

Cliffy6745 said:

"Real power means you can get what you want without having to exert violence"

i disagree...

How so?

Bullies need to exert violence to get what they want

JWPearl

Cliffy6745 said:

JWPearl said:

Cliffy6745 said:

"Real power means you can get what you want without having to exert violence"

i disagree...

How so?

Bullies need to exert violence to get what they want

well im christian and we were told the world is going to get worse
and Jesus and his army were going to eradicate that which meant
violence

Cliffy6745

JWPearl said:

Cliffy6745 said:

JWPearl said:

Cliffy6745 said:

"Real power means you can get what you want without having to exert violence"

i disagree...

How so?

Bullies need to exert violence to get what they want

well im christian and we were told the world is going to get worse
and Jesus and his army were going to eradicate that which meant
violence

Mmmmmkay...

rgambs

PJfanwillneverleave1

Cliffy6745 said:

JWPearl said:

Cliffy6745 said:

JWPearl said:

Cliffy6745 said:

"Real power means you can get what you want without having to exert violence"

i disagree...

How so?

Bullies need to exert violence to get what they want

well im christian and we were told the world is going to get worse
and Jesus and his army were going to eradicate that which meant
violence

Mmmmmkay...

Makes sense.
Problem solved.

myoung321

there you going using facts again......

eddiec

JWPearl said:

Cliffy6745 said:

JWPearl said:

Cliffy6745 said:

"Real power means you can get what you want without having to exert violence"

i disagree...

How so?

Bullies need to exert violence to get what they want

well im christian and we were told the world is going to get worse
and Jesus and his army were going to eradicate that which meant
violence

Isn't the act of eradicating violence violent?

PJfanwillneverleave1

eddiec said:

JWPearl said:

Cliffy6745 said:

JWPearl said:

Cliffy6745 said:

"Real power means you can get what you want without having to exert violence"

i disagree...

How so?

Bullies need to exert violence to get what they want

well im christian and we were told the world is going to get worse
and Jesus and his army were going to eradicate that which meant
violence

Isn't the act of eradicating violence violent?

It's a trap. There is no escape from this reasoning.

callen

And I'm supposed to be polite and allow religious people to have their beliefs.

People we need to be forceful and call out the lunacy. It's in humanities best interests.

And to keep thread integrity think Obama has done incredibly well with what he was given. WHOOT.